>>ONE DAY BEFORE JAMES COMEY'S TESTIMONY, THE HEADS OF TWO
U.S. INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES HAVE BEEN GRILLED BY THE SENATE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE LEARNED A BIT, BUT THERE IS ALSO
A LOT THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN WILLING TO SAY.
WE HAVE MANY
INSTANCES OF THIS.
YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION
IMMEDIATELY ON THE FACE OF SOME OF THE SENATORS, FOR THE MOST
PART DEMOCRATS, BUT MARCO RUBIO ALSO ATTEMPTED TO GET SOME REAL
ANSWERS.
THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION IS, DID DONALD TRUMP
INTERVENE IN SOME FASHION TO TRY TO EITHER STOP COMEY OR THE
INVESTIGATION INTO RUSSIA AND THE ELECTION MORE GENERALLY?
HERE IS THE BEGINNING OF THAT.
>>DIRECTOR COATS, YOU HAVE SAID AS WELL THAT IT WOULD BE
INAPPROPRIATE TO ANSWER A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE
PRESIDENT ASKED FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE IN BLUNTING THE
RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION.
I DON'T CARE HOW YOU FELT, I'M NOT
ASKING WHETHER YOU FELT PRESSURED -- I'M SIMPLY ASKING,
DID THAT CONVERSATION OCCUR?
>>ONCE AGAIN, SENATOR, I WILL SAY THAT I DO BELIEVE IT'S
INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO DISCUSS THAT IN AN OPEN SESSION.
>>YOU REALIZE -- AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT RELEASING ANY
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION -- BUT YOU REALIZE HOW SIMPLE IT WOULD
SIMPLY BE TO SAY, NO, THAT NEVER HAPPENED?
>>HE WILL CONTINUE TRYING TO GET THIS GUY TO GO ON THE RECORD,
YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THIS CLIP.
>>WHY IS IT INAPPROPRIATE, DIRECTOR COATS?
>>I THINK CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND MYSELF ARE,
FOR THE MOST PART --
>>YOU SEEM TO APPLY THAT STANDARD SELECTIVELY.
>>I'M NOT APPLYING IT SELECTIVELY, I'M SAYING I
DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
>>YOU
COULD CLEAR ENOUGH A LOT UP BY SIMPLY SAYING IT NEVER HAPPENED.
>>I DO NOT SHARE WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC CONVERSATIONS
THAT I HAVE WITH THE PRESIDENT OR MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES WITHIN
THE ADMINISTRATION THAT I BELIEVE SHOULD NOT BE SHARED.
>>I THINK YOUR UNWILLINGNESS TO ANSWER A BASIC QUESTION
SPEAKS VOLUMES.
>>IT'S NOT A MATTER OF AN WILLINGNESS --
>>IT IS A MATTER OF UNWILLINGNESS.
>>IT'S A MATTER OF HOW I SHARE IT, AND WHO I SHARE IT TO.
WHEN
THERE ARE ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS I THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE.
>>YOU DON'T THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW THE
ANSWER TO THAT?
>>I THINK THE INVESTIGATIONS WILL DETERMINE THAT.
>>THAT HEARING AS PART OF THE INVESTIGATION, ONE WOULD THINK.
AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC, I GET THAT THAT MEANS SOMETHING -- IT
IS A GROUP OF SENATORS WHO ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT -- OVERSIGHT
IS SO DIFFICULT WITH THIS WHITE HOUSE.
WE HAVE A WHITE HOUSE
LAWYER SAYING AS A MATTER OF POLICY DON'T COOPERATE WITH ANY
DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL OR CONGRESSIONAL ATTEMPTS AT
OVERSIGHT, REQUISITIONS OF INFORMATION, THINGS LIKE THAT.
A
LITTLE BIT OF HELP WOULD BE NICE FROM THE DNI AND OTHER
INTELLIGENCE HEADS.
>>I WONDER IF HE'S TRYING TO PLAY IT IN A WAY WHERE IF HE
DOESN'T CONFIRM IT, HE WON'T DEAL WITH ANY TYPE OF
RETALIATION FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, BUT IF HE DENIES
IT HE'S LYING, SO HE COULD FACE RAMIFICATIONS FOR THAT SHOULD
THE INVESTIGATION FIND THAT TRUMP WAS TRYING TO MEDDLE WITH
THE INVESTIGATION AND WAS GUILTY OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
I
DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A SMART STRATEGY, BUT EITHER WAY IT
SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE HIDING SOMETHING, DUDE.
AND THAT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.
>>I THINK IF THERE IS FEAR OF RETALIATION FROM THE WHITE
HOUSE, THAT ALSO SHOULD BE A PUBLIC CONCERN.
THAT FOLKS CAN'T
SPEAK OUT UNTIL THE TRUE FOR FEAR OF RETALIATION.
AND I ALSO
THINK HIM SAYING THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH THE
GENERAL PUBLIC -- YOU KIND OF ANSWER TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
IF
THAT WAS THE CASE THEN THIS SHOULDN'T BE PUBLIC.
IT'S KIND
OF LIKE, WHY ARE YOU HERE?
>>THEY ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BE.
I'M SURE
THEY DON'T WANT TO. AND THE THING ABOUT THAT, WHENEVER YOU
SAY, DID X CONVERSATION HAPPEN -- I CAN'T SAY IF IT DID OR NOT
-- THAT IS CONFIRMING IT.
IMAGINE IF HE DIDN'T HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION WITH TRUMP, AND HE SAYING I CAN'T CONFIRM OR DENY?
TRUMP WOULD BE AT HOME LIKE, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!
DENY THAT IT
HAPPENED!
SO CLEARLY THIS IS AN ADMISSION THAT THOSE SORTS OF
CONVERSATIONS HAPPEN, AND WHEN YOU COMBINE THAT WITH A MILLION
OTHER RESPONSES WHERE THEY KEEP SAYING I DIDN'T FEEL PRESSURED
-- OKAY, FORGET THE PRESSURE, DID IT HAPPEN?
I CAN'T CONFIRM
OR DENY.
THAT IS A STRATEGY THAT COME UP WITH WHERE WE WILL JUST
SAY WE DIDN'T FEEL PRESSURED.
IT MAY HAVE HAPPENED, IT MAY HAVE
BEEN UNETHICAL OR ILLEGAL, BUT I DIDN'T PERSONALLY FEEL
PRESSURED.
I LIKE PRESSURE SITUATIONS.
THEY ARE ADMITTING
WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
I MENTIONED DURING OUR PRODUCTION MEETING, I
FORGET HER NAME, BUT A DEMOCRATIC SENATOR SAID THAT THE
WHITE HOUSE GIVE YOU ANY INSTRUCTION ON HOW TO ANSWER OUR
QUESTIONS, AND WAS THERE A DISCUSSION OF USING EXECUTIVE
PRIVILEGE?
AND DOWN THE LINE, THE FOUR MEN SAID THERE WAS NO
DISCUSSION OF EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, ONE, TWO, THREE,
FOUR, SIDESTEPPING THE QUESTION OF WERE YOU COACHED?
AND CLEARLY THEY HAVE BEEN.
>>IT'S DISTURBING BECAUSE IF TRUMP AND HIS ADMINISTRATION
HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT OR BE FEARFUL ABOUT, IF THEIR
CONDUCT HAS BEEN LEGAL AND THEY HAVEN'T TRIED TO MEDDLE WITH THE
INVESTIGATION, WHY THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY OR THE REFUSAL TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS?
IT'S STRANGE TO ME, AND KEEPS GETTING
STRANGER.
AT THE MOMENT WE DON'T HAVE THIS HARD-CORE EVIDENCE
THAT RUSSIA -- THAT HE HAS THESE QUESTIONABLE TIES TO RUSSIA,
RIGHT?
BUT THE WAY THIS IS ALL KIND OF PLAYING OUT MAKE PEOPLE
QUESTION HIM MORE AND MORE, AND IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR HIM.
>>100%.
I WANT TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT MORE, IN THIS NEXT CLIP YOU
HAVE ANGUS KING IN A SIMILAR LINE OF QUESTIONING.
>>DID YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WROTE THE MEMO THAT WAS USED AS THE
PRIMARY JUSTIFICATION FOR FIRING DIRECTOR COMEY THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE USING IT AS THE PRIMARY JUSTIFICATION?
>>SENATOR, AS I KNOW YOU ARE AWARE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
DOCUMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH ME IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, THE
MEMORANDUM I WROTE CONCERNING DIRECTOR COMEY IS IN THE PUBLIC
RECORD, THE ORDER APPOINTING THE SPECIAL COUNSEL IS IN THE PUBLIC
RECORD, THE PRESS RELEASE I ISSUED A COMPANY THAT ORDER IS
IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, AND A WRITTEN VERSION OF THE STATEMENT
I DELIVERED TO 100 --
>>WERE YOU AWARE THAT YOU WOULD BE THE PRIMARY JUSTIFICATION FOR
HIS FIRING?
>>I ANSWERED MANY QUESTIONS IN THE CLOSED BRIEFINGS OF THE 100
SENATORS --
>>BUT YOU AREN'T ANSWERING THIS QUESTION.
>>AS I EXPLAINED IN THOSE BRIEFINGS I SUPPORT MR.
MCCABE
ON THIS, WE HAVE A SPECIAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATING --
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INVESTIGATION --
>>AT THIS POINT YOU FILIBUSTER BETTER THAN MOST OF MY
COLLEAGUES SO I WILL MOVE ON.
>>HE FILIBUSTERS VERY WELL, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN
HOUR TWO -- IT'S JUST CRAZY.
>>LIKE I SAID YOU CAN READ BETWEEN THE LINES AND DISCOVER
QUITE A BIT FROM THIS.
AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT HOW
THIS LOOKS, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO STILL DON'T
BELIEVE THERE IS ANYTHING THERE, AND THEY WILL GO TO THE END OF
DAYS THINKING THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
BUT JUST THINK, YOU HAVE
TWO POSSIBLE WORLDS -- SOMETHING IS THERE TO BE DISCOVERED,
SOMETHING HAPPENED, OR IT DIDN'T. THE BEHAVIOR WE HAVE
SEEN OVER THE PAST FOUR MONTHS DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE IF THERE
IS NOTHING THERE TO BE FOUND.
TRUMP AND HIS CRONIES WOULD NOT
BE GOING TO THESE INCREDIBLE, POSSIBLY ILLEGAL LENGTHS, TO
SHUT DOWN THIS INVESTIGATION IF THEY COULD SIMPLY LET IT PROCEED
AND NOTHING WOULD COME OF IT.
YOUR RESPONSE MIGHT BE OKAY,
THEY ARE JUST WORRIED THAT EVEN IF THERE IS NOTHING THERE THE
INVESTIGATION EXISTING WILL BE A DISTRACTION -- AND THAT WOULD BE
A FINE COUNTERPOINT, EXCEPT THAT THEIR ATTEMPTS TO CONTROL THE
MESSAGING AND NEGATIVE IS THE DISTRACTION, THAT'S WHAT IS
DISTRACTING FROM HIS AGENDA IF IT EXISTS.
AND THEY HAD TO HAVE
CAUGHT ON TO THAT BY NOW, SO CLEARLY THERE BEHAVIOR HAS SOME
OTHER EXPLANATION, AND THE SIMPLEST ONE IS THEY ARE
AFRAID OF SOMETHING BEING DISCOVERED.
>>TO THOSE WHO THINK THIS IS JUST A DISTRACTION OR SOMETHING
ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS HAVE LATCHED ONTO BECAUSE THEY DON'T
WANT TO TALK ABOUT POLICY, IF YOU WANT TO CRITICIZE DEMOCRATS
FOR NOT TALKING ABOUT POLICY AND FOCUSING TOO MUCH ON RUSSIA
THAT'S A FAIR CRITICISM.
BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO INCREDIBLY
IRRESPONSIBLE AND MISGUIDED TO JUST PRETEND LIKE RUSSIA -- LIKE
YOU KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT RUSSIA IS NOT AN
ISSUE, LET'S NOT FOCUS ON IT AT ALL, EVEN THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN
A SLOW AND STEADY DRIP OF SOME EVIDENCE, SOME INDICATION, THAT
RUSSIA DID MEDDLE IN OUR ELECTIONS, THAT THERE IS
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE JUST BASED ON TRUMP'S TRANSPARENT
BEHAVIOR.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED AND
IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT ESPECIALLY LIBERALS WHO ARE IN
FAVOR OF EVIDENCE, WHO WANT INVESTIGATIONS, WHO WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THINGS ARE KIND OF HASHED OUT AND PUT TO REST
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY WANT TO
MOVE AWAY FROM THIS AND NOT FOCUS ON IT.
YOU CAN DO, AS
MAXINE WATERS SAID, YOU CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME.
>>WE HAVE THESE 24-HOUR DAY NEWS NETWORKS, WE PRODUCE A LOT OF
VIDEOS HERE, I THINK WE CAN COVER BOTH.
WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT HERE IS OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND I GOT MORE ON THAT
RIGHT NOW, THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE IS
THAT IT'S ILLEGAL, AND IT'S ILLEGAL WHETHER THEY COULD FIND
ANYTHING IN THIS INVESTIGATION OR NOT.
EVEN IF THERE WAS
NOTHING, HE CANNOT OBSTRUCT THE FBI FROM CONDUCTING THESE
INVESTIGATIONS.
AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE WILLING
TO SIMPLY LAY DOWN, PROVIDE NO CHECK ON THE ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR OF
THE PRESIDENT, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT SOME OF
THE IMPLICATIONS IF IT IS FOUND OUT.
THAT'S FRUSTRATING, I WISH
WE COULD HAVE SOME SORT OF UNITED FRONT UNCHECKING THIS
PRESIDENT'S EXCESSES OF POWER.
BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, YOU SAW THAT COATS WAS TESTIFYING, HE
CAME UP IN SOMETHING THAT WAS REVEALED YESTERDAY.
THIS WAS
BEING REPORTED I BELIEVE BY THE WASHINGTON POST INITIALLY.
APPARENTLY, AND THIS COMES FROM SOURCES INSIDE THE
ADMINISTRATION --
>>THERE HE IS TALKING TO THE
DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL
INTELLIGENCE AND SEEING IF MAYBE SOMETHING COULD BE DONE TO SHUT
DOWN AN FBI INVESTIGATION OF AN ASSOCIATE.
AGAIN, YOU CAN'T DO
THAT, THAT IS NOT ALLOWED, AND CLEARLY TRUMP KNEW IT WASN'T
ALLOWED, THAT'S WHAT HE CLEARED THE ROOM BEFORE REQUESTING IT.
>>BUT THE POTENTIAL OBJECTION OF JUSTICE IS NOT THE BIG STORY
HERE, THE BIG STORY IS THERE ARE UNNAMED SOURCES THAT ARE TALKING
TO THE MEDIA, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHO THEY ARE.
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