Spiritual Awakening Shakes Trump White House Biggest In Over 100 Years
I drove my Bible the Bible is the best we're going to protect Christianity and
I can say that I don't have to be politically correct Jellicle so with me
because they know one thing about me I'm not a liar
I win with the evangelicals by a lie they no I'm legit
I wrote the art of the deal they always say a deep deep second to the Bible the
Bible is about survival there's some of the country's most powerful people and
now they have been gathering at the White House for God making history as
part of presidents the president's cabinet Bible study so what's behind the
spiritual awakening at the White House here 2-way illness is chief political
correspondent for the Christian Broadcasting Network and hosts a faith
nation David Brody hey David good to see you
hey Angley good to see you thank you well so tell us what's happening at the
White House they're having a Bible study every week every week at the HHS
building cabinet members twelve of them which is the majority of the cabinet is
attending these are evangelicals Christians Mike Pompeo the CIA you've
got ben Carson Rick Perry Tom Price the list goes on and you know Mike Pence's
planning to drop by the invitation is open for the president as well so but
he's getting the notes from the Bible study so it's pretty fascinating our
White House correspondent Jennifer Wishon broke the story pretty pretty
fascinating most is this the most evangelical presidency you've seen a 100
percent I don't think there's any more than George Bush 43 yes and if there no
qualms about that now I know there might be some pushback from some evangelical
leaders in that George W Bush era but but if you talk to evangelicals private
privately the dirty little secret is they're getting more access and FaceTime
with this president than george w bush the evangelical president there's not
even a question about it it's kind of like a kind of like a factory is in the
sense that all of these folks just kind of keep coming in and out of it's like a
shuttle bus going into the White House form evangelicals and it's interesting
because I actually emailed a evangelical leader the other day and I said hey
there are a couple evangelical leaders at the White House today what's going on
there you know try try to get a source and a guy says to me there's
always evangelical leaders here every single day and that really is the case
compare this White House when it comes to Bible studying in the evangelical
movement to the last administration well I mean look there were Bible studies I'm
up on Capitol Hill and there's and there's no Bible studies of Democrats
and Republicans together and you know I know the president President Obama took
a state very seriously and I know he got some pushback in evangelical circles so
there was some of that but but this is much different because this is a
president President Trump who encourages the evangelicals and the Bible studies
and the cabinet meetings and it's interesting if you talk to evangelical
leaders when they're around this president of this president they say
this president has a lot of peace that he wants to be around evangelicals that
he said at ease with them it's it's a very interesting dynamic well I know
many of us need faith that makes us better people and that's exactly what
I've gotten to my friends have gotten from Bible study so I think this is a
great thing thank you so much David for being with us
you bet Easley American atheists are up in arms after the White House revealed
at hosts a weekly Bible study with high-ranking cabinet members some even
claiming that the Bible study is an illegal use of taxpayer funds so is this
okay or is religion not welcome at the White House here to debate it Andrew
Seidel is a constitutional attorney from the Freedom From Religion Foundation and
dr. Shay Jace tract is the president and founder of Student Leadership University
and faith leaders on he's a part one of the faith leaders on the White House
faith-based initiative team Andrew and Jay thank you very much for joining us
this morning Andrew I will start with you the name of your foundation is
Freedom From Religion however when you read the First Amendment it talks about
freedom of religion why would these leaders not have the ability in a
country with a lot of faith filled people to simply host a Bible study well
look there are two major concerns here right there's the legality and the
propriety of this so first these are government officials on government
property using government resources on the taxpayer time getting together for a
religious purpose and that raises several issues you know what is the
extent of the government resources being used our staffers pressured or coerced
into attending or do you believe that these categories limited a number you
believe there being no I mean it's something we don't I'm saying that this
is something we don't know and we've actually submitted record
requests to attempt to determine the extent of any possible violations but if
you leave the legalities aside the propriety here it mean it can't be
considered proper or in keeping with American values for government officials
to get together on taxpayer time to study a book that condones slavery and
the subjugation of women and the eternal torture and torment of people who don't
believe like you now if it doesn't violate the Constitution directly it
certainly violates that core principle of American government the separation of
state and doctors tract I'm gonna I'm just gonna let you open up and respond
to that yes well thank you well I'm upset that Andrews is dismayed and
appalled and distraught that a group of men and women in the White House who are
faced with some of the challenges that our world is facing the planet is on
fire we'll take a little bit of time to get to know each other to pray for one
another and then also to pray for wisdom and to see if you know a verse or two in
scripture about how to be focused in life so I'm very grateful we have a
president I'm very grateful for a cabinet that gives people an opportunity
to do so and if you were to take away in fact I'm afraid Andrew and some of his
friends would be very upset to have been at that Constitutional Convention in
Philadelphia when they're I guess their hero Benjamin Franklin stood and said
simply sir I've lived a long time we have seen after praying daily in this
building for divine protection Britain they didn't know it's really in the
building at all they pray pray daily during sessions of Congress I mean they
pray they play what they said can you hear us Andrew that's what that that's
what Benjamin Franklin said that's his own words well I mean Benjamin Franklin
proposed the prayer but they did not have any prayer at the Constitutional
Convention and the delegates actually rejected his called we had prayer and
there was no prayer at the come did you do then after institution do they not
open sessions of Congress today with a prayer well in the Freedom From Religion
Foundation is actually suing because they've rejected atheists attempt to get
an invocation done but James Madison who wrote the Bill of Rights and is the
father of the Constitution said that those chaplains and Congress are a
direct violation of equal rights and of the First Amendment so the
again you know we don't actually have its you're invoking what what many
invoke is a wall of separation between church and state
yes except there is no the wall of Shepard separation of church state is
not in the Constitution is it it was in a letter drafted in 1803 so Thomas I
mean no I mean absolutely not that that is a phrase that is used to sum up the
relationship between religion and government and it has been adopted by
the supreme court as early as 1878 i mean fair trial isn't a phrase that
appears in the constitution but everybody recognizes that there's a wise
doctor doctor free difference between freedom from religion and freedom of
religion there's no question i don't know how it can traumatize somebody that
people of their own free will have chosen they have the freedom to say i
have a prime of man of faith a woman of faith i need prayer and i would like to
do this and i'm very grateful that we have an administration that says part of
what made america america is our faith and i you know Andrews right nobody
should have anything imposed upon them and no one at those weekly Bible studies
and those of us that have the privilege to work with the president several times
and his cabinet can honestly tell you it's a sincere listening session and you
know the picture that everybody would raise the over us prayin over the
president well if you knew what was happening before that prayer and after
that prayer on prison reform and social justice and then after the prayer we
went right back to doing our best effort note so no doubt consequential stuff for
sure I know I how I feel about this you guys are gonna continue to debate it we
want to ask our viewers let us know friends at foxnews.com where do you
stand with the nation at seven seven percent atheists I feel like it might be
a bit one-sided with the emails but we'll see thank you both for joining us
really really appreciate it let me start with this mark there were black churches
all across America that were playing for President Obama when he came into office
right I don't get it who who thinks that it's not a good idea for our money says
In God We Trust like I wouldn't we pray for our leader well because I think on
the Left particularly there are secular there's a secular elite that doesn't
like it's actually creeped out by ostentatious
displays of faith so like a little kind of rump residual Episcopalian ISM is
like okay but when you've actually got laying on a hands that's wool that's way
too much man and the rest southern term coming out of
your British mouth that's even better but that's but that's
actually what if that's actually what it is here they they they find that strange
it's not strange to millions of bee and Trump is an odd way of talking when he
when he addresses religious meetings and he goes I love evangelicals they're
fabulous did you hear the one about 2 Corinthians walking into a bar whatever
it's really normal way it's not a normal way to talk to evangelicals in a son
sense but they respond to his sincerity and they understand that the real
opposition to them is people like Erin Burnett who just find them creepy and
weird are they done right but but it's really interesting because she should
employ a little bit of curiosity and and maybe this is a facet of someone's life
that is most important to them and something that's actually very sacred
and using pejorative words like strange it's sort of off-putting so if this is a
block of voters that's so threatening to Democrats my suggestion would be maybe
don't criticize them openly if you're interested in bringing them to your side
they don't do it they wouldn't do it with Muslims if it was something most
memorable thank you god bless you and God bless america
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