KENNETH: The stronger that concept gets that He is in me.
He is in there to wither the tree, He is in there to wither
that cancer. GLORIA: That's right. KENNETH: He is in
there to wither that sickness and disease.
(Singing) I know my God has made the way for me.
I know my God has made the way for me.
ANNOUNCER: Welcome to the Believer's Voice of Victory
Arkansas Special. Today, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland teach on the
spiritual laws that govern faith. When you purposefully
live in God's love, that love adds all things to your life.
KENNETH: Hello, everybody. We're Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, and
welcome to the Believer's Voice of Victory broadcast. Let's have
a word of prayer; we'll get right into today's Bible lesson.
Father, we just praise You and thank You. We worship You. We
lift our praise, our hearts, our faith to You. We are Yours to
command, Sir. And we receive Your presence on this broadcast
today. GLORIA: Praise God. KENNETH: We receive insight,
ideas, concepts, revelation from heaven about Jesus and living
this life of faith. We pray it in Jesus' name and believe we
receive it. Amen. GLORIA: Amen. KENNETH: Glory, glory, glory to
God. I want you to know, God is good-- GLORIA: He is good.
KENNETH: --and His mercy endures forever. GLORIA: Oh, aren't we
glad? KENNETH: Isn't it wonderful? GLORIA: Mm-hmm.
KENNETH: You know, welcome to our place here in southwest
Arkansas. This began just as four acres in--right just in
this area where we're sitting here, that--of course, this
house wasn't here, and the pond wasn't there. It was
just--really just a bare hill full of rocks out here in the
beginning. GLORIA: And abundance of rocks. KENNETH: Abundance of
rocks. We picked up rocks and picked up rocks and picked up
rocks. And, you know, you would think this place was growing
rocks. And the kids--we--they rode their little Z50 Hondas out
here all over this place back before we had anything, and it
was just raw like it is in the picture that-- GLORIA: Rock and
dirt. KENNETH: --that--yeah, in the picture that you've seen
on--when the place was originally set in here, that was
this house here before Gloria got her and her mother got her
hands on it. And they just rebuilt this thing and restored
it. It was just--into the beautiful place it is now. Back
there then they're out riding around all over, banging into
rocks and stuff. We just had an enormous amount of fun out here
and--but the big thing about this place, God provided the
vision and the provision for the house, the log cabins-- GLORIA:
Yep. KENNETH: --the pond. I was standing over there by a tree
and just praising and worshiping the Lord over this place
when--and--when your grandmother and granddaddy gave it to us.
And I just heard it on the inside of me just like any
Christian can hear God speak if you're listening. He said, "See
that little dry creek bed?" I said, "Yes, Sir." And my eyes
were following that creek bed. And God--and He pointed out a
tree over there to me. He said, "If you will build a levy, a dam
right there and bring it all the way across there," He said,
"You'll dam up that water. You will have a nice pond there."
GLORIA: Well, we had a lot of it dug out, too, didn't we?
KENNETH: Well--well, yeah, it was just a creek bed. GLORIA:
Yeah. KENNETH: But then we found out that the State of Arkansas
had--or the--had a conservation thing going. GLORIA: Yeah.
KENNETH: And the state was providing money to help people
build ponds and lakes and things around to conserve water.
GLORIA: That's right. KENNETH: And they paid-- GLORIA: Just in
time. KENNETH: --they paid for--it only cost us I think
$600 to get the thing dug out and all that went with it. And
God just blessed. GLORIA: It's a blessing. KENNETH: That's just
the way He is, Gloria. GLORIA: I know it. KENNETH: He wants you
blessed! GLORIA: He's got ideas. If you'll get His ideas, you'll
do good. KENNETH: Oh, yes, the blessed One. Amen. Let's go back
to our place in I John where we've been reading our--in what
Brother Hagin used to call, "our golden text." Amen. In I John
4:8, "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love." And
what we're talking about all last week and all this week is
renewing our minds to the fact that God is love and love does
no ill to its neighbor. We read that yesterday in the 13th
chapter of Romans. Well, how about God? He is love. Well, He
does no ill to anybody-- GLORIA: Oh, my. KENNETH: --ever,
anybody, any time except the devil. He will do him bad. Glory
to God. And that's good. Love stands up for its own. Now,
let's go down now and read the 16th, 17th, and 18th verses. "We
have known and believed--" had faith. GLORIA: Yeah. KENNETH:
We're going to have to learn to believe, believe the love and
have faith, learn to trust His love, learn to--learn--the
scripture says, "Lean not to your own understanding; but
trust God with all your heart." Well, if you're trusting God,
you're trusting love because He is love. GLORIA: That's right.
KENNETH: But we--love has been so misused. It--"love" is a
slang word in the English language and so is God and so is
Lord and all of that, and too much so in the Christian
community. I mean, born-again people ought to not be using
God's name in any form in any way like that except to praise
Him. GLORIA: Yeah. KENNETH: "But I love my--you know, I love
this, I love that. Oh, don't you love it? Oh, don't you love it?
I love pizza. I love--" Well, you know, and just a slang word.
And by doing that, you have no real concept of--and give the
word "love" the reverence and the honor that it deserves, the
honor that is right alongside with the name of Jesus, the
blood of Jesus and the Word of God. Hallelujah. GLORIA: Amen.
KENNETH: Because it is God, "In the beginning was the Word, the
Word was with God, and the Word was God." Well, in the beginning
was love, the Word was with love, and love was--and the Word
was love. GLORIA: Yeah. KENNETH: Now, "In the beginning love
created the heavens and the earth." Well, on what day did
love create cancer? He didn't. GLORIA: That's right. KENNETH:
And would never! Amen. The devil brought that. There was no
sickness, there was no disease, there was no disaster, there
were no storms until the devil got his hands on this place.
Amen. Now, look at this. God is love. To have faith in love,
then you must--you and I and everybody else--we must use the
laws, the spiritual laws, that govern faith in order to develop
and renew our minds concerning this. Then we have to do it the
faith way. So let's go over to the 11th chapter of Mark's
gospel, Verse 12. "On the morrow, when they were come from
Bethany, Jesus was hungry: Seeing a fig tree afar off
having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon:
when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time
of figs was not. And Jesus answered and said unto it," or
said to the tree, "No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for
ever. And his disciples heard it. And they came to Jerusalem:
and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that
sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the
moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves; Would not
suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple.
And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house
shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? You've made
it a den of thieves. And the scribes and chief priests heard
it, and sought how they might destroy him: for they feared
him, because all the people were astonished at his doctrine. And
when even," or evening, "was come, he went out of the city."
So, Gloria, they left here in the morning-- GLORIA: Mm-hmm.
KENNETH: He stopped at the fig tree, spoke to it. They left in
the evening. GLORIA: Yeah. KENNETH: So there's about 12
hours there, roughly. And they went back to Bethany. Well, now,
they had to walk right by that tree. It was either one or two
things. It was either dark, which probably not because they
wouldn't have waited till dark to walk back to Bethany. GLORIA:
Yeah. KENNETH: So they had to walk right past that tree. And
if there had been--if you could have seen anything on the
outside of that tree that looked like any change in it, Peter
would have said something then instead of waiting till the next
morning. So sometime between 12 and 24 hours, that tree died and
withered. Now, it's one thing just for the tree to die. Had it
just killed that tree, it still would have taken a while for it
to wither. GLORIA: Yeah. KENNETH: That meant all the
leaves had to die. All the leaves fell off of it. The tree
itself withered, so a powerful force hit this thing. I mean,
it--you know, it wasn't just time passing. It didn't just
kill the tree. I mean, it stopped that tree right then.
GLORIA: He spoke to it. KENNETH: Yeah. GLORIA: The roots died.
KENNETH: The root-- GLORIA: It died from the bottom. KENNETH:
--the roots died. And then the force of His faith--it dried up
from the roots, and the force of His faith withered it. GLORIA:
Yeah. You know, that happens in our own personal lives when
we're believing for a situation or a problem to be stopped, and
we speak to it, command it to quit, stop, die, whatever we
tell it to do. You can't tell just immediately sometimes that
something happens. But, from the time you release your faith,
whatever that sickness was, whatever the problem was, the
money problem, whatever, it begins to wither up-- KENNETH:
Yes, amen. GLORIA: --at the root. KENNETH: Yes. Amen.
GLORIA: Talk to the root of it. KENNETH: Amen. GLORIA: And if
you won't undo your faith that you've spoken, it'll come to
pass. KENNETH: It'll wither up. GLORIA: Yeah. KENNETH: It'll die
and wither up. GLORIA: Yeah, yeah. KENNETH: That's good.
GLORIA: But so many times people quit before it happens. KENNETH:
And I believe one of the reasons for that, Gloria, is not
realizing that God is in this with you because He loves you.
Love is in it with you. Love, Himself, is on the inside of
you. GLORIA: Yeah. KENNETH: And when faith worketh by love,
we're talking about God here. GLORIA: That's right. KENNETH:
And when--the stronger that concept gets, that He is in me,
He is in there to wither the tree. He is in there to wither
that cancer. GLORIA: That's right. KENNETH: He is in there
to wither that sickness and disease. He is in there to
totally and completely destroy any and everything Satan has
ever been able to do to you. GLORIA: You know, but they
couldn't see it from the outside for a while. KENNETH: It was at
least 24 hours. GLORIA: Yep. But the thing died just like the
sickness and the disease. If you release faith on it, it'll die.
KENNETH: You know, I never had had this thought before in my
life till right then, just as you said that. The tree died in
the dark. GLORIA: Hmm, yeah. KENNETH: Now, that sickness,
that tumor, or whatever you're dealing with--you're dealing
with things in the spirit realm you can't see. You're dealing
with spirits that you can't see with your physical eye. So
they're in the dark, as far as that goes, because you can't
physically see them. GLORIA: Yeah, mm-hmm. KENNETH: But you
can't--that disease is hidden on the inside. Even if it's come
out somewhere on your body where you can see it, or even if it's
some situation in the family that you can see, you're dealing
with unseen forces here and you're releasing an unseen
force. The most powerful unseen force that exists is God, who is
love. And He hates Satan. He hates sickness and disease
because He loves people, and He hates poverty and He loves
people. Praise God. GLORIA: Praise God. KENNETH: Amen.
GLORIA: So the key to that story is, "Stay with it. Don't quit."
KENNETH: Yeah, let patience-- GLORIA: "And call it finished."
KENNETH: Yeah. Jesus spoke the desired end result. GLORIA:
Yeah, that's right. KENNETH: So that's what we're supposed to
do. GLORIA: That's right. Amen. KENNETH: Amen. GLORIA: praise
God. It works. KENNETH: "Let patience have her perfect
work, that we be entire, wanting nothing." Jesus is my shepherd.
I do not want. I do not want for healing. GLORIA: That's right.
KENNETH: I do not want for money and the things I need. I do not
want for these things. They're all on the inside of me because
the kingdom of God's on the inside of me because God's the
one whose love is on the inside of me. GLORIA: Praise God.
KENNETH: Glory to God. GLORIA: Amen. KENNETH: And as I seek
first--if I seek first God as I seek first love-- GLORIA: Yeah.
KENNETH: --then all these things will be added to me. GLORIA:
Praise God. KENNETH: Praise God. GLORIA: Well, we've lived--we've
lived that way. We know it works. KENNETH: We believe the
love. GLORIA: Yes, we do. KENNETH: I believe He loves me.
I believe it beyond anything that I believe. Spirit, soul,
body, brain, anything, I believe God loves me. I believe God
loves me. GLORIA: Yes. KENNETH: I believe God loves Kenneth.
GLORIA: I believe He does, too. KENNETH: Glory to God.
I got an insight into that 50 years ago, and I haven't
turned loose of it and it's been growing in me. But here lately,
it's growing even more rapid and more powerful. Now, when they
brought this up, "In the morning, they passed by, and saw
that fig tree dried up from the roots. Peter calling to
remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree
which you cursed is withered away." Now, then Jesus
immediately began to talk about faith. GLORIA: Yeah, He did.
KENNETH: So the reason--the reason He took the time to kill
that fig tree with His faith was to use it to teach them. GLORIA:
An example. KENNETH: Now, He immediately said, "Have faith in
love." Well, now, wait a minute here. Have faith in who? "Have
faith in love." "No, wait a minute, Brother Copeland. No, He
said, 'Have faith in God.'" No, He said, "Have faith in love."
"Brother Copeland, it doesn't say, 'love.' It says, 'God,
G-O-D.'" No, it said, "love." GLORIA: God-- TOGETHER: --is
love! KENNETH: Come on. Every time you hear the word "God,"
from now on, just let your mind just click over there and grab
ahold of love. Any time somebody says, "love," that's God. And if
they're talking about, you know, using love in a strange way, it
needs to become where it gets your attention. It doesn't sit
well with you anymore. And-- "For verily I say unto you,
whosoever--whoso--" Gloria, whosoever can do this. All you
have to be is a human being and be able--to be able to do this.
GLORIA: That's right, whosoever. KENNETH: Monkeys can't do it
because they can't talk. GLORIA: That's right. KENNETH: (Laughs)
Amen. GLORIA: If they could, they'd be ruling the world. It's
a good thing they can't. KENNETH: (Laughs) "For I say,
Whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, be
thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart--"
That's not talking about your physical organ of the heart,
it's talking about the spirit of man. The spirit is the heart of
man. This is a heart. This is not mine. It's not mind over
matter. No, no. The--mentally--people can
mentally believe something, but there's no power in the mind.
Now, there is willpower, but that's different from the mind.
You use your mind to exercise your will. All that's part of
your soul. And it's powerful. Will--boy, "I will do this," or
"I will not do this." That's a powerful thing. GLORIA:
Willpower has to do with you-- KENNETH: Well, it does. GLORIA:
--not whether--it doesn't change a tree or a body or anything.
But it's what--it has to do with changing you. Do you see what
I'm saying? KENNETH: And controlling you. It'll control
you because if God can say something to you and you--you
can just not believe it. I mean, your will is stronger than God's
until you yield your will to His. You don't--you don't become
weak-willed. GLORIA: That's right. KENNETH: You're
strong-willed. I'm a very strong-willed man. GLORIA: You
mostly-- KENNETH: But I strongly will to obey God's will and I
have accepted His will as my will and put my will subject to
His, and that's what makes you strong. GLORIA: You mostly use
willpower on yourself. KENNETH: You better. (Both laugh) GLORIA:
That's what you should do. KENNETH: Now, notice this:
"Believe that those things which he saith--the things which he
says shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith."
Now, that's the way faith is released. GLORIA: Mm-hmm.
KENNETH: "Therefore I say unto you, What things soever you
desire, when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you
shall have them. And when you stand praying, forgive." You
see, this is--this is so intertwined with love that
without love, it can't work because faith worketh by love.
God is--God is love. Of course, faith works by Him. It's His
faith. Amen. It was the faith that was in the seed of His Word
that got you born again. I get so excited about this I can
hardly stay in this chair. I wanted to jump and jump over
this whole thing. GLORIA: That's not much of a chair. You
better--you better control yourself. KENNETH: Oh, you got a
thing about that chair. You don't like that. You don't like
that itty bitty chair at all. (Both Laugh) But I want you to
see this. If you're going to--you're going to have to
begin to talk love. You're going to have to be saying, "God loves
me and I love God. I love Him with all my heart, all my soul,
all my mind and all my strength." GLORIA: So I do.
KENNETH: And I believe He loves me with all His heart, all His
soul, all His mind, and all of His strength. GLORIA: I love
God, so I do what He says. KENNETH: I love God and do what
He says. That's faith. GLORIA: Yeah. That's right. KENNETH:
Amen. If he says, "Love," I love. I don't care if I feel
like loving or not. I'm going to do what God-- GLORIA: Yes, amen.
KENNETH: --and His love tells me to do. GLORIA: That's right.
KENNETH: Because I'm just like Him and to be just like Him,
praise God, I'm going to have to act like Him. And I'm going to
do it whether I feel like my--feelings, just get in line.
GLORIA: That's right. KENNETH: And we're out of time. GLORIA:
Wow, where'd the time go? KENNETH: My, my, my. Gloria and
I will be back in just a moment. And by the way, we love you.
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