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* AMAZING GRACE
>> Ian: AN EMOTIONAL VIGIL JUST
STEPS AWAY FROM WHERE 10 PEOPLE
WERE KILLED IN THAT HORRIFIC VAN
ATTACK.
TONIGHT WE DON'T YET KNOW WHO
ALL OF THE VICTIMS ARE BUT WE'RE
LEARNING SOME OF THEIR NAMES AND
THEIR STORIES.
WE'LL SHARE SOME OF THOSE WITH
YOU OVER THE NEXT HOUR.
WE ARE ALSO GETTING A BETTER
PICTURE OF THE MAN THAT IS
ACCUSED OF CAUSING ALL OF THIS
HARM.
WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE KNOW,
WHAT WE DON'T, AND WHAT COMES
NEXT.
>> Andrew: ALSO TONIGHT, WHAT
WE KNOW ABOUT THE POLICE OFFICER
THAT SOME ARE CALLING A HERO.
>> Rosemary: AND WHY OFFICIALS
AREN'T CALLING THIS ATTACK
TERRORISM.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>> Ian: WE ARE HERE IN NORTH
TORONTO WHERE 10 LIVES WERE LOST
AND 14 OTHER PEOPLE WERE
INJURED.
AND SO MANY LIVES HAVE BEEN
CHANGED FOREVER.
YESTERDAY SCENES OF CARNAGE HAVE
BEEN TRANSFORMED IN SOME CASES
TO SCENES OF RESILIENCE BUT ALSO
SCENES OF GRIEF.
WE'LL BRING YOU MORE OF THAT IN
JUST A MOMENT, PARTICULARLY FROM
WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AT THE
VIGIL, BUT, FIRST THOUGH LET'S
TELL YOU WHAT THE LATEST
DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN.
EARLIER TODAY THE SUSPECTED
DRIVER, ALEK MINASSIAN, APPEARED
IN COURT.
HE'S CHARGED WITH 10 COUNTS
OF FIRST-DEGREE MURDER AND 13
COUNTS OF ATTEMPTED MURDER, WITH
ONE MORE CHARGE EXPECTED SOON.
INVESTIGATORS SAY THAT HIS
PRECISE MOTIVE REMAINS UNCLEAR
BUT POLICE AND FACEBOOK
HAVE CONFIRMED THE REPORTS THAT
WE GAVE YOU LAST NIGHT THAT A
CRYPTIC MESSAGE APPEARED ON HIS
FACEBOOK PROFILE BEFORE THE
ATTACK.
THE CORONER HAS NOT OFFICIALLY
IDENTIFIED ANY OF THE VICTIMS
YET BUT POLICE SAY THEY WERE
MAINLY WOMEN.
WE ARE STARTING TO HEAR FROM
THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
A VIGIL FOR THE VICTIMS WAS HELD
HERE TONIGHT, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
COMING THROUGH TO PAY THEIR
RESPECTS TO
THOSE WHO DIED AND THOSE WHO ARE
STILL IN HOSPITAL.
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* PRAISE GOD
* PRAISE GOD
>> OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO ALL OF
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PERISHED AND
THEIR RELATIVES AND FRIENDS.
>> I WAS JUST RIGHT HERE
SATURDAY.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME.
SO IT MEANT A LOT FOR ME TO BE
HERE TONIGHT.
>> I TOLD MY SON THAT IN ANY
WEATHER SITUATION WE ARE GOING
TO BE THERE TONIGHT.
>> WE MOURN WITH THOSE AFFECTED
BY THIS, THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
>> Ian: 24 PEOPLE WERE KILLED OR
INJURED IN THE ATTACK AND THAT'S
ONE LESS THAN POLICE ORIGINALLY
THOUGHT.
WE ARE STARTING TO LEARN MORE
ABOUT THEM, ABOUT THE LIVES THAT
HAVE BEEN LOST AND THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE STILL FIGHTING IN
HOSPITAL.
DAVID COMMON HAS THE LATEST ON
THAT ANGLE OF THE STORY.
>> Reporter: THE JOB OF
IDENTIFYING THE DEAD AND INJURED
IS EXTRAORDINARILY CHALLENGING.
YOUNG AND OLD, CANADIANS AND
FOREIGN VISITORS.
BUT EVEN WITHOUT CERTAINTY
FAMILIES HAVE BEEN TOLD TO
PREPARE FOR TERRIBLE NEWS.
>> WHEN I LEFT I SAW ALL OF THE
BODIES.
SORRY.
I SAW THE BODIES ON THE ROAD.
>> Reporter: MOST OF THOSE
KILLED WERE CARRYING
IDENTIFICATION.
BUT THE CORONER SAYS THAT ISN'T
ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE
DAMAGE TO BODIES IS SO
EXTENSIVE.
>> FRANKLY, IT TAKES TIME TO GET
RECORDS AND IT TAKES TIME TO
MEET FAMILIES, SO THAT'S NOT A
RESOURCE ISSUE, THAT'S REALLY
THAT YOU NEED TO ENSURE THAT
YOU'RE TALKING TO THE RIGHT
PERSON.
YOU TAKE THE TIME TO DO THAT.
>> Reporter: WHAT IS KNOWN --
TWO SOUTH KOREAN CITIZENS ARE
AMONG THE DEAD -- STUDENTS
STUDYING IN CANADA.
SO TOO IS A JORDANIAN MAN HERE
TO VISIT HIS SON.
MUNIR ABDU HABIB AL-NAJJAR.
80-YEAR-OLD DOROTHY SEWELL WAS
ON THE STREET, PERHAPS ENJOYING
THE LOVELY WEATHER IN HER
RETIREMENT.
GRANDSON
ELLWOOD DeLANEY IS NOW
MOURNING HER LOSS.
>> IT WASN'T AN ACCIDENT.
IT WOULD BE EASIER TO DEAL WITH
IF IT WAS NATURE CAUSED OR AN
ACCIDENT, BUT TO GO OUT THIS
WAY...
>> Reporter: THIS WOMAN'S BEST
FRIEND IS AMONG THE VICTIMS.
ANNE MARIE D'AMICO WAS OUTSIDE
HER OFFICE WHEN THE YOUNG WOMAN
AND VOLUNTEER WAS STRUCK DOWN
AND KILLED.
IN A STATEMENT HER FAMILY SAYS
THAT "IT COMFORTS US KNOWING
THAT THE WORLD HAS HAD A CHANCE
TO KNOW HER AND THAT HER MESSAGE
IN LIFE WILL SURVIVE HER DEATH.
ALTRUISM RATHER THAN ANGER AND
HATRED."
>> I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH HER AND
HER AND I WERE VERY ACTIVELY
ENGAGED TOGETHER IN MANY STUDENT
GROUPS.
SHE WAS A STAR AMONGST MANY
DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND SHE REALLY
WAS IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS A
BEAUTIFUL HUMAN BEING.
>> Reporter: OTHERS ARE
GRIEVOUSLY INJURED.
A RYERSON INSTRUCTOR IS IN
INTENSIVE CARE.
SHE WAS A STUDENT, AND THE TWO
REMAINED CLOSE IN THE YEARS
SINCE.
>> AMAZING MAN, REALLY AMAZING
MAN.
AND THAT HAPPENED ALMOST FOUR
DAYS AGO.
FOUR DAYS AGO.
>> Reporter: AMONG THE INJURED
ARE CO-WORKERS OF THE DEAD,
ELDERLY RESIDENTS AND OTHERS.
AS THEY ARRIVED AT TRAUMA
CENTRES, NEARLY ALL AT ONCE, IT
WAS CONTROLLED CHAOS.
>> IT WAS, YOU KNOW,
UNIMAGINABLE.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 14
YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN A LOT BUT
IT WAS DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW,
VERY TRAUMATIC BUT AT THE SAME
TIME AS A NURSE WE'RE TRAINED TO
DO THIS.
>> Ian: DAVID, THERE'S A
REMARKABLE STORY ABOUT A MAN WHO
HAD A VERY CLOSE CALL.
>> Reporter: CERTAINLY, MORGAN
MacDOUGALL IS HIS NAME.
HE FELT SOMETHING, HEARD
SOMETHING, TURNED AROUND AND GOT
HIS BODY TURNED AROUND JUST IN
TIME TO SEE THE VAN.
HE GOT OUT OF THE WAY QUICKLY
BUT WAS STRUCK AT 50 KILOMETRES
AN HOUR, THROWN UNCONSCIOUS, A
BIG GASH UPON HIS HEAD.
PICKED UP BY PARAMEDICS AND
TAKEN OFF TO HOSPITAL BUT NOT
ONLY DID HE SURVIVE BUT COMPARED
TO OTHERS HE'S LIGHTLY WOUNDED.
HE'S RELEASED FROM HOSPITAL BUT,
IAN, TONIGHT HE'S BACK THERE
BECAUSE SOME OF HIS FRIENDS WERE
NOT SO LUCKY.
>> Ian: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
PEOPLE WHO REMAIN IN HOSPITAL?
>> Reporter: WELL, OBVIOUSLY,
IN TERMS OF THEIR CONDITION IT
IS PRIVATE, IT SHOULD BE.
BUT WE KNOW THAT SUNNYBROOK, THE
TRAUMA CENTRE THAT IS VERY CLOSE
TO HERE, TOOK ABOUT HALF OF THE
PATIENTS.
ALL ARE IN THE INTENSIVE CARE
UNIT.
>> Reporter: OKAY, DAVID,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> Reporter: THANK YOU.
>> Ian: EVEN BEFORE THE VIGIL
HERE WAS SET UP, THIS CRASH SITE
WAS A GATHERING PLACE FOR SO
MANY IN THE COMMUNITY AND BEHIND
ME YOU CAN SEE NOTES AND SIGNS
AND FLOWERS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE
REALLY TRYING TO COME TO GRIPS
WITH WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THIS
COMMUNITY.
>> I SAW THE CARNAGE, I SAW
BODIES ON THE STREET, AND I FELT
LIKE SOMEBODY HAS TO DO
SOMETHING.
>> Ian: CONSTANTINE GOLLAGE
WAS MOVED TO START THIS MEMORIAL
TO HONOUR THE VICTIMS AND
SUPPORT THE
COMMUNITY.
>> PEOPLE WERE JUST WALKING BY
BUT EVERYONE NEEDS A MOMENT TO
HEAL AND A CANVAS TO EXPRESS
THEMSELVES.
>> Ian: ALL DAY PEOPLE STOPPED
BY TO LEAVE MESSAGES OF LOVE AND
GRIEF.
>> THIS ROUTE I WALK EVERY DAY,
YOU KNOW.
REALLY EVERY DAY, WE ARE JUST
GOING.
BUT IT'S THE -- BUT I JUST FEEL
SO TERRIBLE.
>> THIS IS MY ROAD EVERY DAY TO
WALK.
AT TIMES LIKE 1:00.
AND I WALK EVERY DAY FROM FINCH
AND --
YONGE AND FINCH TO SHEPPARD.
YESTERDAY I DECIDED TO GO TO THE
GYM INSTEAD.
>> PEOPLE ARE IN PAIN TODAY,
LIKE,
YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GOING ON THE
SUBWAY KNOWING THAT EVEN THOUGH
QUIETLY WE'RE NOT TALKING TO
EACH OTHER, PEOPLE ARE THINKING
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED.
>> Ian: IT'S BECOME A GATHERING
PLACE FOR COMMUNITY LEADERS,
MEMBERS OF THE NEARBY MOSQUE
COMING TO PRAY.
>> BEING A NATIONAL COMMUNITY IT
WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE COULD BE
HERE WITH OUR MESSAGE WHICH IS
THE MODEL OF OUR COMMUNITY --
LOVE FOR ALL AND HATRED FOR
NONE.
>> Ian: AND POLITICIANS, PREMIER
KATHLEEN WYNNE SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH
MAYOR JOHN TORY LAYING FLOWERS.
>> IT'S VERY SOBERING, VERY
SOMBRE.
>> THIS PLACE WILL FOREVER BE A
SCAR ON THE CITY OF TORONTO.
ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT ALL
SCARS IS THAT THEY'RE PART OF
THE HEALING PROCESS.
>> Ian: AND THE PREMIER SAW
FIRSTHAND HOW THIS ATTACK HAS
LEFT SOME IN THE COMMUNITY
SHAKEN.
AS WYNNE LEFT SHE MET A STUDENT
FROM SENECA COLLEGE WHERE THE
SUSPECT STUDIED.
>> RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY -- THE
SECURITY IS HEIGHTENED SO YOU
WILL BE OKAY.
IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT COULD GO
WITH YOU?
>> Ian: WYNNE TRIED TO COMFORT
HER AND SUGGESTING SHE CONTACT
THE SCHOOL WHICH IS OFFERING
COUNSELLING.
AT THE HEART OF THE
INVESTIGATION TONIGHT THE
ACCUSED -- ALEK MINASSIAN SAID
VERY LITTLE IN COURT TODAY AND
ONCE AGAIN THIS EVENING OUR
SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER
DIANA SWAIN IS LOOKING INTO
MINASSIAN'S LIFE, TRYING TO FIND
ANSWERS ABOUT THE SUSPECT.
>> Reporter: IT'S BEEN A DAY
OF TRYING TO READ HIS FACE.
IS THERE SOMETHING THERE FROM
HIGH SCHOOL OR MORE RECENTLY
THAT SUGGESTED WHAT ALEK
MINASSIAN WAS GOING TO DO?
HIS EXPRESSION BETRAYED NOTHING
TODAY AS HE APPEARED IN COURT
WEARING A WHITE JUMPSUIT, HANDS
CUFFED BEHIND HIS BACK.
HE ANSWERED THE JUDGE'S BRIEF
QUESTIONS IN A CLEAR STEADY
VOICE.
THE AGONIZED EXPRESSION WAS WORN
BY A MAN SEEN WEEPING IN THE
FRONT ROW, BELIEVED TO BE
MINASSIAN'S FATHER.
>> Reporter: YOU WERE QUIET IN
COURT, SIR.
CAN YOU AT LEAST TELL US
WHAT YOU ARE FEELING RIGHT NOW,
PLEASE?
>> Reporter: A PICTURE IS
EMERGING NOW OF MINASSIAN'S LAST
SEVERAL MONTHS.
HE JOINED THE CANADIAN FORCES
LAST FALL AT THIS BASE
IN SAINT-JEAN-sur-RICHELIEU.
THEY SAID THAT MINASSIAN WAS AN
"AVERAGE TO BELOW AVERAGE
RECRUIT.
HE HAD PROBLEMS WITH DRESS,
DEPORTMENT AND GROUP
INTERACTIONS IN A MILITARY
SETTING."
HE WENT BACK TO SENECA COLLEGE
IN TORONTO TO FINISH HIS
COMPUTER STUDIES.
A FELLOW STUDENT WHO DIDN'T WANT
TO BE NAMED DESCRIBED MINASSIAN
AS "SMART, THE PILLAR OF THE
GROUP" BUT ALSO AS "SO AWKWARD."
JUST LAST THURSDAY WHEN
MINASSIAN FINISH THE HIS COURSES
HE POSTED THIS MESSAGE TO SOME
CLASSMATES ON A CHAT GROUP,
"FINALLY FINISHED COLLEGE.
F YOU ALL AND GOOD RIDDANCE."
AND JUST YESTERDAY, THIS, THE
FACEBOOK MESSAGE THAT CBC NEWS
REPORTED ON LAST NIGHT.
FACEBOOK CONFIRMED IT CAME FROM
HIS PROFILE PAGE AND SHUT IT
DOWN.
>> THE ACCUSED IS ALLEGED TO
HAVE POSTED A CRYPTIC MESSAGE
ON FACEBOOK MINUTES BEFORE HE
BEGAN DRIVING THAT RENTED VAN.
>> Reporter: THAT POST BEGINS
WITH WHAT MAY BE A
REFERENCE TO HIS FAILED ARMY
EXPERIENCE.
"PRIVATE RECRUIT MINASSIAN
INFANTRY."
AND THEN "THE INCEL REBELLION
HAS ALREADY BEGUN.
ALL HAIL THE SUPREME GENTLEMAN
ELLIOTT ROGER."
>> I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU GIRLS
AREN'T ATTRACTED TO ME BUT I
WILL PUNISH YOU ALL FOR IT.
>> Reporter: RODGER KILLED
SIX PEOPLE IN A RAMPAGE IN
CALIFORNIA FOUR YEARS AGO,
POSTING THIS RANTING
VIDEO JUST BEFORE.
HE WAS ANGRY ABOUT BEING
REBUFFED BY WOMEN, MAKING HIM A
SO-CALLED INCEL OR INVOLUNTARY
CELIBATE.
MAXIME FORCET WORKS FOR A CENTRE
THAT TRACKS WEBSITES WITH
VIOLENT VIEWS, INCLUDING
INCEL SITES.
>> THEY HAVE HUGE RESENTMENT
TOWARDS SOCIETY AND WOMEN --
MOSTLY WOMEN, BECAUSE
THEY FEEL THAT WOMEN ARE
REJECTING THEM EVEN THOUGH THEY
SEE THEMSELVES AS NICE GUYS.
THAT'S THE FEELING OF INJUSTICE
THAT FUELS RADICALIZATION.
>> Reporter: IS THAT WHAT
PROMPTED MINASSIAN TO DO WHAT HE
DID?
>> IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE
LOOKING INTO.
>> Ian: DIANA IS JOINING US NOW.
WE HAVE TO ASSUME, DIANA, THAT
INVESTIGATORS WILL LOOK AT THESE
SO-CALLED INCEL SITES.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO FIND
THERE?
>> Reporter: UNFORTUNATELY,
IAN, THEY WILL FIND THERE THAT
THERE ARE ALREADY SOME PEOPLE
CELEBRATING MINASSIAN.
SOME WE HAVE SEEN HAVE ALREADY
CHANGED THEIR PROFILE
PICTURE ON THOSE SITES TO HIS
PHOTO.
SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER GROTESQUE
DEVELOPMENT IN WHAT HAS ALREADY
BEEN A HORRIBLE STORY, IAN.
>> Ian: ALL RIGHT, DIANA, THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
>> Reporter: THANK YOU.
>> Ian: SO WHILE POLICE
INVESTIGATE THE MOTIVE, OFFICERS
HAVE ALSO BEEN GATHERING
EVIDENCE ALONG A VERY LARGE
CRIME SCENE.
MORE THAN 10 MAJOR CITY BLOCKS.
THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE VAN'S
PATH AS IT PLOWED THROUGH YONGE
STREET.
POLICE SAY THAT IT WAS SEVEN
MINUTES AFTER THE FIRST CALL
CAME IN THAT HE WAS PLACED UNDER
ARREST.
THE BIG, BUSY STRETCH OF ROAD
REOPENED THIS EVENING.
AS THE CBC'S RENÉE FILIPPONE
TELLS US, A CRIME SCENE OF THIS
SIZE PRESENTS ITS OWN
CHALLENGES FOR THE
INVESTIGATION.
>> Reporter: IT'S AN ENORMOUS
SCENE.
A TWO KILOMETRE SPAN OF YONGE
STREET WHERE 24 PEOPLE WERE HIT.
>> HALT.
>> Reporter: TODAY IT WAS
ABOUT DOING A DETAILED SEARCH TO
COLLECT EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE
FROM THE SCENE WHERE EACH PERSON
WAS STRUCK.
TORONTO POLICE CHIEF MARK
SAUNDERS WELCOMED THE EXTRA HELP
THAT WAS BROUGHT IN TO ANALYSE
THE SCENE.
>> WE HAD TO ACQUIRE THE
RESOURCES OF SPECIALIZED TRAFFIC
RECONSTRUCTION RESOURCES FROM
OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE G.T.A.
COLLECTIVELY CALLED TO PITCH IN.
>> YOU LOOK AT THE POLICE TAPE,
YOU KNOW, SO MANY INTERSECTIONS
AWAY, THESE ARE NOT SMALL
BLOCKS.
THEY'RE LARGE CITY BLOCKS.
>> Reporter: THIS RETIRED
WINNIPEG POLICE OFFICER SPENT A
DECADE DOING CRASH
INVESTIGATIONS.
>> A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION IS
VERY SHORT-LIVED.
IT DOESN'T STAY THERE FOREVER.
IF YOU DON'T DOCUMENT IT
IMMEDIATELY OR AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE IT'S GONE FOREVER.
>> Reporter: DAMION TURNER
SAYS THAT POLICE WILL BE TRYING
TO MAP OUT THE EXACT PATH THAT
THE DRIVER TOOK IN ORDER TO
PROVE FIRST-DEGREE MURDER THEY
HAVE TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE TO SHOW
THAT THE ACCUSED PLANNED TO HIT
PEOPLE.
>> I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THEY'RE
LOOKING FOR INFORMATION OR
LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE THAT WOULD
HELP SHOW THAT PREMEDITATED
ACTION ON BEHALF OF THE DRIVER.
THAT MAYBE HE SWERVED TOWARDS A
PEDESTRIAN AS OPPOSED TO JUST
TRAVELLING STRAIGHT DOWN THE
ROAD BLINDLY HITTING WHATEVER
WAS THERE.
>> Reporter: DESPITE A LOT OF
TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE MOTIVE,
POLICE WON'T CONFIRM ANYTHING AT
THIS POINT.
>> ALL DOORS ARE OPEN,
EVERYTHING WILL BE EXPLORED.
THERE'S A LOT MORE ON VIDEO,
EVIDENCE THAT HAS TO COME IN.
THERE'S A LOT MORE WITNESSES.
>> Reporter: BY EARLY EVENING
THE INVESTIGATION HERE IS NOW
WRAPPING UP.
THE YELLOW POLICE TAPE IS COMING
DOWN AND THE VICTIMS' BODIES
THAT LAID ON THE SIDEWALK ARE
NOW GONE.
BUT POLICE SAY THAT ONCE THEY
LEAVE HERE THEY STILL HAVE WEEKS
OF WORK AHEAD.
RENÉE FILIPPONE, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Ian: AND PART OF THAT WORK
WILL BE SPEAKING TO THE POLICE
OFFICER WHO CONTINUES TO RECEIVE
SO MUCH PRAISE, CONSTABLE KEN
LAM CONFRONTED AND ARRESTED THE
SUSPECT.
IT MUST HAVE BEEN A
NERVE-SHATTERING MOMENT AND IT
COULD HAVE ENDED IN
BLOODSHED, BUT, OF COURSE, IT
DID NOT.
IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS NOW ON HOW
THE OFFICER KEPT HIS COOL.
>> Reporter: IT MUST HAVE
SEEMED LIKE AN ETERNITY OR A
FLASH.
A TAKEDOWN THAT LASTED LESS THAN
A MINUTE BY AN OFFICER HAILED A
HERO.
THE HORRIFIC ATTACK HAD ALREADY
BEGUN A FEW BLOCKS AWAY.
CONSTABLE KEN LAM WAS ALONE ON
ROUTINE TRAFFIC DUTY WHEN HE GOT
THE CALL.
HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THERE, HIS
SIREN BLARING, WHEN THE VAN
CRASHED TO A STOP.
WHAT UNFOLDED IS EXTRAORDINARY.
LAM'S GUN IS DRAWN, POINTING AT
THE VAN.
HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
THE DRIVER POINTS WHAT APPEARS
TO BE A GUN AND YELLS SOMETHING,
BUT YOU CAN'T HEAR IT OVER THE
SIREN.
IN WHAT EXPERTS CALL A STRATEGIC
MOVE LAM CALMLY REACHES INTO HIS
VEHICLE TO TURN IT OFF.
>> GET DOWN!
GET DOWN!
>> I HAVE A GUN IN MY POCKET.
>> IF HE THOUGHT THAT THERE
WOULD HAVE BEEN A THREAT TO HIS
LIFE HE WOULDN'T
HAVE TAKEN HIS EYES TO THE
SUSPECT.
HE TURNS OFF THE SIREN SO HE
COULD DEESCALATE THE SITUATION.
BECAUSE THE SIREN WILL MAKE THAT
SUSPECT NERVOUS.
>> Reporter: BUT IT DOESN'T
CALM HIM.
THE DRIVER STEPS CLOSER.
HE WANTS THE OFFICER TO SHOOT.
LAM DOESN'T FIRE.
>> HE'S NOT ONLY PROVOKING HIM
AND DOING THAT BUT HE'S ALSO
SAYING TO THE OFFICER, SHOOT ME,
SHOOT ME.
>> Reporter: MIKE McCORMICK
IS THE HEAD OF THE TORONTO
POLICE UNION.
>> IF AT ANY POINT THAT HE
THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS
AN ESCALATION IN THE PERSON'S
BEHAVIOUR AND THERE WAS A THREAT
HE HAD THE ENTIRE JUSTIFICATION
TO USE HIS WEAPON.
>> Reporter: WE CAN'T TELL
FROM THIS ANGLE BUT LAM KNOWS
THAT'S NOT A GUN.
HE DOESN'T SHOOT BUT STEPS BACK
AS THE SUSPECT COMES CLOSER.
THEN SENSING AN OPENING MOVES
FORWARD.
THE POWER DYNAMIC SUDDENLY
SHIFTS.
THE SUSPECT COLLAPSES TO HIS
KNEES.
SUDDENLY IT'S OVER.
>> WHEN I WAS TALKING TO HIM
YESTERDAY HE WAS SAYING, MIKE,
I'M JUST A COP, THIS IS WHAT WE
DO.
WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?
>> Reporter: HE'S CERTAINLY
HUMBLE AND OFFICERS ARE TRAINED
TO DE-ESCALATE, BUT STILL...
>> IT IS A FOCAL POINT OF OUR
TRAINING PIECE.
HAVING SAID THAT, THAT
PARTICULAR SITUATION YESTERDAY
THE WAY IN WHICH IT WENT DOWN
WAS NOTHING SHORT OF REMARKABLE.
>> Reporter: REMARKABLE
BECAUSE TRAINING CAN ONLY GO SO
FAR.
SCOTT GIOVANNETTI IS A FORMER
POLICE INSTRUCTOR...
>> HE USED THE LEAST AMOUNT OF
FORCE POSSIBLE TO END THE
INCIDENT AND I AGREE WITH THE
CHARACTERIZATION THAT HE WAS A
HERO.
>> Reporter: AS FOR LAM HE IS
OVERWHELMED AND TAKING SOME TIME
OFF.
AS A KEY WITNESS HE WON'T BE
SPEAKING PUBLICLY FOR A WHILE
BUT WILL NO DOUBT ALWAYS BE
KNOWN AS THE COP WHO DIDN'T
SHOOT.
IOANNA ROUMELIOTIS, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Ian: A FINAL POINT ON THIS,
ROSIE, THE FACT THAT CONSTABLE
LAM DID MANAGE TO ARREST THE
SUSPECT ALIVE LEAVES OPEN THE
POSSIBILITY AT LEAST THAT THE
SUSPECT WILL TALK TO POLICE AND
ANSWER THAT TROUBLING
QUESTION -- WHAT WAS ON HIS
MIND?
>> Rosemary: HE JUST IMPRESSED
THE HECK OUT OF US SO HE'LL HAVE
TO LIVE WITH THAT TOO.
IAN, ACROSS THE COUNTRY WE HAVE
SEEN
TRIBUTES LIKE THE ONES BEHIND
YOU POURING IN AND LET'S START
HERE IN OTTAWA THOUGH.
THE PRIME MINISTER WAS ASKED
ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION THIS
MORNING.
JUSTIN TRUDEAU SAYS THAT THE
ATTACK DOES NOT REPRESENT A
THREAT TO CANADA'S NATIONAL
SECURITY AND HE HAD THIS MESSAGE
FOR CANADIANS...
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: WE CANNOT AS CANADIANS
CHOOSE TO LIVE IN FEAR EVERY
SINGLE DAY AS WE GO ABOUT OUR
DAILY BUSINESS.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON DOING WHAT
WE CAN, WE MUST, TO KEEP
CANADIANS SAFE WHILE WE STAY
TRUE TO THE FREEDOMS AND VALUES
THAT WE ALL AS CANADIANS HOLD
DEAR.
>> Rosemary: YOU HAVE LIKELY
HEARD SIMILAR WORDS BEFORE FROM
OTHER LEADERS FOLLOWING
SIMILAR ATTACKS.
THEY ARE ATTACKS AGAINST WHAT'S
KNOWN AS SOFT TARGETS, EVERYDAY
PLACES WHERE PEOPLE GO ABOUT
THEIR EVERYDAY LIVES.
THE DIFFICULT JOB OF PROTECTING
THOSE SPACES WAS ON THE AGENDA
AT THE MEETING OF G7 SECURITY
MINISTERS IN TORONTO TODAY.
KATIE SIMPSON HAS MORE ON THE
TARGET.
>> Reporter: IT DIDN'T TAKE
LONG FOR THE NEW NORMAL TO
ARRIVE.
CONCRETE BARRIERS ARE IN PLACE
FOR NOW AROUND TORONTO'S UNION
STATION.
IT IS ONE OF THE FEW WAYS TO
PROTECT BUSY PUBLIC SPACES WHICH
WAS DISCUSSED TODAY BY G7
NATIONAL SECURITY MINISTERS.
>> The Hon. Ralph Goodale: I
THINK THAT OUR AMERICAN FRIENDS
AND ALL OF YOU AROUND THE TABLE
FOR YOUR OFFERS OF SUPPORT, I
THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: RALPH GOODALE WAS
HOSTING COUNTERPARTS FOR
MEETINGS IN TORONTO WHEN THE
ATTACK HAPPENED.
CBC NEWS HAS LEARNED THAT
SHORTLY AFTER 1:30 p.m. ON
MONDAY THE HEADS OF THE RCMP,
C.S.I.S., CANADIAN FORCES, AND
THE PRIVY COUNCIL OFFICE WERE
TOLD TO LOOK FOR ANY FILES THEY
MAY HAVE ON THE SUSPECT OR
WHAT'S CALLED A "FULL SPECTRUM
REVIEW."
THE INFORMATION WAS USED TO SEE
IF ALEK MINASSIAN HAD ANY TIES
TO TERROR GROUPS OR IF THIS
COULD BE A PART OF A LARGER
PLOT.
THE AGENCIES QUICKLY COMPARED
NOTES TO REALIZE THAT HE WAS NOT
KNOWN TO AUTHORITIES AND WAS NOT
ON ANY WATCH LIST.
BUT TODAY GOODALE SUGGESTED THAT
HE MAY NOW BE CONCERNED ABOUT
GROUPS LIKE INCEL.
>> The Hon. Ralph Goodale:
THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY MOTIVATED BY
VIEWS AND PERVERTED PERSPECTIVES
THAT PUT THESE FOLKS IN AN ODD
CATEGORY.
>> Reporter: TORONTO POLICE
REMAIN THE LEAD INVESTIGATORS
WHICH MEANS THE NEXT BIG
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE
GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO REASSURE
CANADIANS THEY ARE SAFE TO GO
ABOUT THEIR DAILY LIVES.
THE MESSAGE IS CRITICAL SINCE
THERE'S LITTLE OFFICIALS CAN DO
TO PROTECT AGAINST ATTACKS IN
PUBLIC SPACES.
>> WE CANNOT IN LIFE PROTECT
PEOPLE AGAINST EVERYTHING.
OUR JOB IS TO TRY TO DO THE BEST
WE CAN.
>> Reporter: POLICE WILL
DECIDE IF AND WHEN THESE
BARRICADES HERE AT UNION STATION
CAN BE TAKEN DOWN.
IT TOO IS PART OF THE OVERALL
CAMPAIGN TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL
SAFER IN PUBLIC SPACES.
KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Rosemary: THE CRASH
YESTERDAY CERTAINLY INVOKED
TERROR ON THE STREET IN TORONTO
BUT OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN
RELUCTANT TO DESCRIBE IT AS
TERRORISM.
SO WHY ARE SOME ATTACKS LABELLED
TERROR AND OTHERS ARE NOT?
>> WHAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY IS
CLEARLY LINKED TO A TERRORIST
IDEOLOGY.
>> Rosemary: IN 2014 THERE WAS
NO QUESTION, MARTIN
COUTURE-ROULEAU TURNED HIS CAR
INTO A WEAPON AND KILLED A
SOLDIER IN
SAINT-JEAN-sur-RICHELIEU.
IT WAS CALLED AN ACTOR OF TERROR
BY A RADICALIZED LONE WOLF
INSPIRED BY ISIS.
NOT SO FOR YESTERDAY.
A DEVASTATING CRIME BUT NO
OFFICIAL OR AUTHORITY HAS
LABELLED IT TERRORISM.
PART OF THE REASON FROM THE
PUBLIC SAFETY MINISTER...
>> The Hon. Ralph Goodale: AS
FAR AS THE INFORMATION WOULD
TELL US TO THIS POINT THERE IS
NO NATIONAL SECURITY CONNECTION.
>> Reporter: IN CANADA THE
DEFINITION OF "TERRORISM" IS
CLEARLY LAID OUT IN THE CRIMINAL
CODE.
AS "AN ACT UNDERTAKEN IN WHOLE
OR IN PART FOR A POLITICAL,
RELIGIOUS, OR IDEOLOGICAL
PURPOSE, OBJECTIVE OR CAUSE THAT
IS INTENTED TO INTIMIDATE THE
PUBLIC."
>> THE KEY REASON FOR DEFINING
AN ACT AS BEING ONE OF TERRORISM
OR NOT HAS TO DO WITH
MOTIVATION.
>> Rosemary: IN THE FAILED
EDMONTON U-HAUL ATTACK LAST YEAR
AND IN THE QUÉBEC CITY MOSQUE
ATTACK THAT KILLED SIX PEOPLE,
POLITICIANS LABELLED BOTH
ATTACKERS "TERRORISTS," YET NO
TERRORISM CHARGE WAS LAID.
>> USUALLY THEY'RE NOT LAID
BECAUSE THIS IS AN ELEMENT OF
MOTIVATION.
I MEAN YOU REALLY HAVE TO HIT A
PRETTY HIGH
STANDARD IN COURT TO BE ABLE TO
PROVE THAT A PERSON'S ACTIONS
WERE ROOTED IN THIS IDEOLOGICAL
MOTIVATION.
>> Rosemary: AND SOMETIMES
THAT WORD "TERRORISM" GETS IN
THE WAY.
TAKE THE MONCTON SHOOTINGS,
JUSTIN BOURQUE SHOT AND KILLED
THREE RCMP OFFICERS.
OFFICIALS NEVER CALLED IT
TERRORISM EVEN THOUGH POLICE DID
CONSIDER LAYING THAT CHARGE.
>> IT'S EASIER TO PROCEED WITH
THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE AN
OBVIOUS MURDER CASE AND THAT THE
PENALTY FOR MURDER IS AS SEVERE
AS THE PENALTY FOR TERRORISM SO
IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE.
>> Rosemary: STILL, JUSTIN
BOURQUE IS ONE OF THE CANADIANS
WHO HAS RECEIVED ONE OF THE
LONGEST SENTENCES IN CANADIAN
HISTORY -- 75 YEARS WITH NO
PAROLE.
>> Ian: OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE
FROM TORONTO CONTINUES TONIGHT.
THIS IS A BIG CITY MADE UP OF
SMALL NEIGHBORHOODS AND THIS ONE
NORTH OF DOWNTOWN IS STILL
REELING.
I SPENT THE DAY TALKING TO
PEOPLE HERE ABOUT THEIR
DETERMINATION IN THE FACE OF
TRAGEDY.
>> Rosemary: IAN, THE PREMIER
ALSO AT THAT MEMORIAL TODAY AND
LATER TONIGHT AND I SPOKE TO HER
EARLIER ABOUT THE MOMENTS AFTER
SHE FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE ATTACK
AND WHAT COULD BE DONE NOW TO
PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING
AGAIN.
>> Andrew: AND ANOTHER STORY
THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING TONIGHT, A
CBC EXCLUSIVE.
RYAN STRASCHNITZKI SURVIVED THE
HUMBOLDT BUS CRASH AND NOW HE'S
TELLING HIS STORY.
>> MY TEAMMATES ARE IN FRONT OF
ME BLOODIED AND WHATNOT AND MY
FIRST REACTION WAS TO GET UP AND
HELP BUT I COULDN'T MOVE.
SO IT WAS PRETTY TOUU
(*)
>> Ian: TONIGHT WE'RE HERE IN
NORTH YORK ON YONGE STREET,
USUALLY CROWDED WITH CARS, ONE
OF THE BUSIEST STREETS IN THE
CITY.
TONIGHT IT'S THE SIDEWALKS THAT
ARE CROWDED WITH PEDESTRIANS WHO
HAVE COME HERE TO PAY THEIR
RESPECTS TO THE VICTIMS.
NORTH YORK IS ABOUT 30 MINUTES
NORTH OF DOWNTOWN TORONTO AND IT
IS ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE
NEIGHBOURHOODS IN THE COUNTRY.
I SPENT THE DAY HERE AS THE
COMMUNITY TRIED TO MAKE SENSE OF
WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY.
(*)
A SMALL EXAMPLE OF A CLOSE
COMMUNITY, THE SIMPLE GESTURE OF
A LOCAL SHOP OFFERING FREE
FLOWERS TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME
MEASURE OF COMFORT.
AND THEY GAVE AWAY A LOT.
THE CO-OWNER RELUCTANTLY
SPEAKING ON CAMERA ABOUT WHY.
SO YOU DECIDED TO GIVE AWAY
FLOWERS TODAY.
WHY?
>> YEAH.
JUST LITTLE THINGS THAT WE CAN
HELP, LIKE, WHAT WE CAN DO -- WE
HAVE FLOWERS SO THAT'S ALL.
>> Ian: HOW ARE PEOPLE DOING
TODAY?
>> WELL, EVERYBODY IS GRIEVING
IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
>> Ian: VANITA HOYE WORKS DOWN
THE STREET.
SHE AND HER CO-WORKER ARE STILL
SHAKEN OF WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN.
>> IT SEEMS THAT EVERYBODY CAME
TOGETHER.
>> Ian: AT THE MEMORIAL?
>> YES.
>> Ian: WHAT ABOUT IN YOUR
WORKPLACE AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE
WHO SAW YESTERDAY WHAT HAPPENED,
HOW ARE THEY DOING?
>> THEY'RE DOING OKAY.
WE HAD GRIEF COUNSELLORS COME IN
TODAY AND TALK TO US.
SO SOME OF US WERE ABLE TO TALK
TO THEM AND SOME WEREN'T ABLE.
(*)
>> Ian: ASK PEOPLE HERE TO
DEFINE THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD AND
THEY'LL SAY IT'S MULTIETHNIC,
FRIENDLY, SAFE.
BUT IT'S THAT LAST PART THAT
FEELS IN DOUBT FOR SOME TODAY.
GINA CHANG, LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE,
SAW THE CARNAGE OUTSIDE HER
WORKPLACE.
FIRST TWO THINGS THAT YOU TALKED
ABOUT IS WALKING AND SAFETY.
>> YEAH.
>> Ian: AND NOW I'M SURE THAT
SOME PEOPLE FEEL THEY WONDER IF
THAT IS STILL THE CASE?
>> NO.
NOBODY -- LIKE EVERY PERSON THAT
I SPOKE TO SINCE YESTERDAY,
EVERYONE JUST SAID TO ME HOW
COULD THIS HAPPEN HERE?
COMING TO WORK TODAY I STILL
FELT A LITTLE -- LIKE MAYBE
THERE COULD BE ANOTHER
POSSIBILITY OF -- I DON'T KNOW,
A SIMILAR ATTACK, I DON'T KNOW.
>> EVERY DAY YOU WALK...
>> Ian: HE SAYS THAT HE NOTICED
HIS NEIGHBOURS ARE DIFFERENT
TODAY.
>> I FEEL THAT PEOPLE'S FACES
ARE FROZEN, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW
TO PROCESS IT.
I FELT THAT WHERE SOME OF MY
NEIGHBOURS AND I FELT A BIT OF
COLDNESS IN THE ELEVATORS.
I TAKE THE ELEVATORS EVERY DAY
IN MY CONDO BUILDING BUT I FELT
THAT AND I TRIED EXTRA HARD TO
BE GOOD TO THEM AND SMILE AT
THEM.
BECAUSE A SMILE CAN CHANGE A
PERSON'S PERSPECTIVE, IT'S JUST
A MATTER OF ONE SMILE.
(*)
>> AFTER THAT THING HAPPENED I
THOUGHT PEOPLE ARE COMBINED
TOGETHER TO MAKE ME MORE WARM,
YEAH.
THAT'S ALL.
>> Ian: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> Ian: THERE'S A LOT OF WORRY
HERE BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF
OPTIMISM AND THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO ARE SEEKING COMFORT.
AMONG THE PEOPLE WHO CAME BY
THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD, ROSIE,
EARLIER TODAY THE PREMIER
KATHLEEN WYNNE.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S RIGHT,
IAN, AS WE SHOWED YOU EARLIER
SHE WAS THERE WITH THE MAYOR
JOHN TORY.
THEY BOTH WROTE MESSAGES OF
CONDOLENCE TO THE VICTIMS'
FAMILIES AND THEY LAID BOUQUETS
OF FLOWERS.
THEN THEY LEFT WORDS LEFT
BY OTHERS ON CARDBOARD AND
POST-ITS TAPED TO THE SQUARE.
PREMIER KATHLEEN WYNNE IS
JOINING US FROM TORONTO.
PREMIER, YOU WERE AT THE
MEMORIAL TODAY AND TALKING TO
LOTS OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE.
WHAT HAS STRUCK YOU ABOUT THE
REACTION, NOT ONLY FROM THE
PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBOURHOOD BUT
FROM THE CITY AT LARGE?
>> WELL, IT WAS A VERY SOMBRE
PLACE, ROSEMARY, AS YOU CAN
IMAGINE.
THERE WERE PEOPLE FROM THE
COMMUNITY WHO HAD WRITTEN
MESSAGES IN, A WHOLE RANGE OF
LANGUAGES THAT REFLECTED THE
COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA, BUT ALSO
THAT REFLECT THE CITY.
THERE WAS A THEME OF LOVE THAT
WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE
MESSAGES.
THERE WAS ONE THAT PARTICULARLY
STOOD OUT AND IT SAID, I DON'T
KNOW YOU BUT I LOVE YOU.
AND SO I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE
LOOKING FOR A WAY IN THIS CITY
TO EXPRESS THEIR LOVE, EXPRESS
THEIR CONCERN AND THEIR SYMPATHY
FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN A
VICTIM OR A FAMILY OR A FRIEND
OF THIS HORRIFIC TRAGEDY.
>> Rosemary: WHEN YOU FIRST
GOT THAT CALL YESTERDAY -- I
IMAGINE THAT IT'S THE CALL THAT
YOU LEAST WANT TO GET AS
PREMIER, WHAT DID YOU
IMMEDIATELY THINK WERE
HAPPENING?
WERE YOU CONCERNED THAT IT WAS
AN ACT OF TERRORISM?
>> I THINK THAT CROSSES YOUR
MIND, YOU KNOW.
IT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT
COMES UP.
I WANTED TO KNOW THAT OUR FIRST
RESPONDERS HAD ALL OF THE
SUPPORT THEY NEEDED.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
PROVINCIAL FIRST RESPONDERS WERE
WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE FEDERAL
AND THE MUNICIPAL POLICE
SERVICES.
THE TORONTO POLICE SERVICE HAS
DONE A WONDERFUL JOB.
THEY HAVE LED THE WAY ON THIS.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY
CLOSELY WITH THEM AND I WANTED
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD
EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED AND THAT,
YOU KNOW, WE WERE -- WE WERE
SURE THAT IF THERE WAS GOING TO
BE A SECOND -- A SECOND EVENT,
THAT WE WERE PREPARED FOR THAT.
THAT IS WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH
MY MIND IMMEDIATELY.
>> Rosemary: THERE ARE NOW
SUGGESTIONS BETWEEN WHAT WE KNOW
THAT IS WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH
MY MIND IMMEDIATELY.
>> Rosemary: THERE ARE NOW
SUGGESTIONS BETWEEN WHAT WE KNOW
ABOUT THE SUSPECT AND HIS
ATTACHMENT TO A FACEBOOK GROUP
WHERE HE SEEMED TO EXPRESS SOME
FEELINGS -- SOME HATEFUL
FEELINGS TOWARDS WOMEN AND SOME
MEN.
AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT SOME OF
THE VICTIMS NOW ARE -- THERE ARE
MORE WOMEN THAN MEN.
DO YOU READ ANYTHING INTO THAT?
ARE POLICE TELLING YOU ANYTHING
ABOUT THAT AND WHETHER IT SPEAKS
TO MOTIVE?
>> I THINK THAT IT'S TOO EARLY,
ROSEMARY, TO SPECULATE ON ANY OF
THAT.
THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LET --
WE HAVE TO LET THE EXPERTS DO
THEIR WORK.
>> Rosemary: WHAT YOU CAN DO
THOUGH AS THE PREMIER IS START
THINKING ABOUT PREVENTATIVE
MEASURES THAT CAN BE PUT IN
PLACE FOR THINGS LIKE THIS TO
NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
OF COURSE THIS IS ONE OF THESE
ATTACKS ON
SOFT TARGETS WITH A VAN THAT NO
ONE SUSPECTS WOULD BE A WEAPON.
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT
ALREADY IN TERMS OF TRYING TO
PREVENT THINGS LIKE THIS
HAPPENING AGAIN?
>> YES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND, IN FACT, OUR CABINET
COMMITTEE ON EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT MET THIS AFTERNOON
AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE TOPICS
AND
ARE WE NOW LOOKING AT WHAT
MEASURES COULD BE PUT IN PLACE?
AND, AGAIN, IT'S EARLY DAYS BUT
WE ARE -- WE ARE ABSOLUTELY
LOOKING AT WHAT CAN WE DO.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK,
ROSEMARY, THIS IS A QUESTION
THAT IS BEING ASKED IN MANY
JURISDICTIONS.
WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A
RANDOM ACT OF THIS KIND, YOU
KNOW, TO WHAT DEGREE IS IT
RANDOM?
TO WHAT DEGREE IS THE PLACE
RANDOM?
WHAT ARE THE PREDICTIVE FACTORS
THAT CAN BE PUT IN PLACE?
AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT
THAT?
WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT WE DO
NOT WANT -- WE DON'T WANT TO
CHANGE OUR CITIES IN THIS
PROVINCE TO BE PLACES WHERE
PEOPLE DON'T FEEL SAFE TO WALK.
WE WANT -- WE WANT TO MAKE IT
CLEAR TO EACH OTHER THAT WE LIVE
IN A SAFE PLACE, THAT WE -- THAT
WE ARE RESILIENT COMMUNITIES,
AND THAT WE WILL GET THROUGH
THIS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT
MORE COULD WE DO TO PREVENT AND
TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, PREMIER,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: I APPRECIATE IT.
(*)
>> Ian: WE HAVE MORE AHEAD FROM
THE MEMORIAL IN TORONTO.
IN THE FACE OF SUCH AN UGLY
ATTACK WE'LL LOOK AT HOW PEOPLE
HERE ARE DETERMINED TO FOCUS ON
WHAT MAKES THEIR CITY BEAUTIFUL.
>> Andrew: BUT, FIRST, WE WILL
HAVE A DIFFERENT STORY OF
SURVIVAL.
RYAN STRASCHNITZKI WAS IN THE
HUMBOLDT BUS CRASH.
TONIGHT HE'S SPEAKING
EXCLUSIVELY WITH OUR SUSAN
ORMISTON ABOUT HIS WILL TO
RETURN TO THE ICE.
>> I HAVE TO GET INTO A
WHEELCHAIR TODAY AND I KNOW THAT
I WILL SIT IN IT LONGER THAN I
DID YESTERDAY.
AND IF I HAVE
TO SIT ON THE EDGE OF THE BED TO
PRACTISE AND KEE
>> Andrew: MORE THAN TWO WEEKS
AFTER THAT DEADLY BUS CRASH IN
SASKATCHEWAN THERE IS SOME
PROGRESS.
TWO HUMBOLDT BRONCOS PLAYERS IN
HOSPITAL ARE NO LONGER IN
CRITICAL CONDITION.
THERE ARE STILL SIX PLAYERS
RECOVERING IN A SASKATOON
HOSPITAL AND THE SURVIVORS HAVE
A LONG WAY TO GO.
BUT JUST DAYS AFTER THE TRAGEDY
YOU MIGHT REMEMBER A REMARKABLE
MOMENT OF COURAGE FROM ONE OF
THEM --
RYAN STRASCHNITZKI.
WHEN THE DOCTORS TOLD HIM THAT
HE WAS PARALYSED HE IMMEDIATELY
REASSURED HIS PARENTS THAT HE IS
GETTING BACK ON TO THE ICE.
HE'S GOING TO LEARN TO PLAY
SLEDGE HOCKEY AND WIN GOLD, NO
LESS, AT THE PARALYMPICS.
A TOUGH SPIRIT, TO BE SURE.
BUT AS HE TOLD OUR SUSAN
ORMISTON IN AN EXCLUSIVE SITDOWN
INTERVIEW THAT IT'S WHAT HIS
FRIENDS WOULD HAVE WANTED.
>> HI, RYAN, NICE TO MEET YOU.
FINALLY.
I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO YOUR MOM
FOR TWO WEEKS ALMOST AND IT IS
SUCH A RELIEF TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: RYAN
STRASCHNITZKI FACES THE TOUGHEST
CHALLENGE OF HIS LIFE --
LEARNING TO LIVE WITH PARALYSIS.
YOU MUST HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME
INCREDIBLY INTENSE EMOTIONS IN
THOSE TWO WEEKS.
CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THAT?
>> I HAD MY MOMENTS.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE WHOLE
INCIDENT HIT ME UNTIL A COUPLE
DAYS AFTER.
THINKING ABOUT IT AND SEEING MY
TEAMMATES THAT WERE ALIVE AND IT
WAS GOOD TO SEE THEM.
>> Reporter: RYAN WAS A
DEFENCEMAN FOR THE BRONCOS, A
ROOKIE, RECRUITED FROM A TEAM IN
LEDUC, ALBERTA.
ON APRIL 6th WHEN THE TEAM BUS
AND A SEMI-TRAILER HIT HE WAS
CATAPULTED OUT.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED?
>> YEAH, I WAS THROWN FROM THE
BUS AND I WAS GOING TO TEXT MY
GIRLFRIEND AND THE BUS DRIVER
SAID WHOA AND I KIND OF LOOKED
AND THERE'S A SEMITRUCK THAT
FULLED OUT IN FRONT OF US.
THE INITIAL COLLISION, I BLACKED
OUT.
I WOKE UP I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG
LATER AND MY BACK
WAS UP AGAINST THE SEMI, I WAS
SITTING UP, AND I COULD JUST
REMEMBER SOME OF THE PAIN AND
STARING AT THE BUS.
IT WAS CUT IN HALF AND MY
TEAMMATES WERE SITTING IN FRONT
OF ME LIKE BLOODY AND WHATNOT.
SO MY INITIAL REACTION WAS TO
GET
UP AND HELP BUT I COULDN'T MOVE.
SO IT WAS PRETTY TOUGH.
>> Reporter: HE WAS RUSHED TO
A SASKATOON HOSPITAL.
THE NEXT DAY HE WENT INTO
SURGERY.
HIS SPINAL CORD SEVERELY
DAMAGED, AMONGST OTHER INJURIES.
>> I HAVE A FRACTURED CLAVICLE,
LEFT CLAVICLE AND SCAPULA.
AND MY T3 HAS BEEN A COMPLETE
FRACTURE.
MY RIBS ON BOTH SIDES ARE
FRACTURED AS WELL FROM A
PUNCTURED LEFT LUNG AND INTERNAL
BLEEDING IN THE HEAD.
BUT I'VE JUST BEEN GETTING
BETTER AND BETTER.
>> Reporter: WHAT ABOUT YOUR
MOBILITY WITH YOUR CHAIR?
>> MOBILITY -- JUST PRACTISE
GETTING OUT OF THE CHAIR.
AND THEY'LL TEACH ME HOW TO LIVE
MY LIFE IN A CHAIR AND WHATNOT
AND GETTING THE UPPER BODY
STRENGTH TO DO EVERYDAY THINGS
LIKE CHANGE YOUR CLOTHES AND GET
INTO YOUR WHEELCHAIR AND FEED
YOURSELF AND WHATNOT.
>> Reporter: WHAT HAVE BEEN
SOME OF THE MOST DIFFICULT
MOMENTS FOR YOU?
>> LIKE NOT BEING ABLE TO,
LIKE -- SORRY --
>> Reporter: IT'S OKAY.
IF IT'S TOO TOUGH, DON'T WORRY.
>> OKAY.
JUST NOT BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE
FUNERALS.
>> Reporter: RIGHT.
YOU WERE TOO SICK TO GO.
YEAH.
YEAH.
WILL YOU BE ABLE TO REMEMBER
THEM IN A DIFFERENT WAY IN THE
FUTURE?
>> YEAH, LIKE, I'M DOING THIS
ALL FOR THEM.
SO IT'S MY WAY TO REMEMBER THEM,
THEY'RE ALWAYS THERE.
>> Reporter: YOUR COACH WAS
CLOSE TO YOU?
COACH DARCY HOGAN WAS A MENTOR.
HE WAS KILLED IN THE CRASH.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT DARCY,
THE COACH, WOULD TELL YOU NOW?
>> JUST BE TOUGH, KEEP PUSHING.
YOU WERE GIVEN A SECOND CHANCE
SO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
>> Reporter: UM-HMM.
AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
>> I CAN PUSH THROUGH EVERY DAY
AND KEEP POSITIVE.
YOU KNOW, FIGHTING THROUGH IT
AND JUST KEEPING THAT MINDSET OF
YOU CAN DO THIS.
PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WELL, HE'LL
NEVER WALK AGAIN.
BUT JUST PUSH THROUGH IT.
>> Reporter: DAD, TOM, AND
MOM, MICHELLE, ARE DETERMINED TO
KEEP RYAN ON TRACK AND MOVING
FORWARD.
AT HIS SIDE OVER THE LAST TWO
WEEKS CONSTANTLY AND MANAGING
THREE OTHER THREE CHILDREN ALONG
WITH THE FULL DAYS AT THE
HOSPITAL.
THEY CREDIT HIM WITH THE STRONG
SPIRIT DESPITE THE TRAUMA.
>> IT WAS ABOUT THREE DAYS IN
THE I.C.U. AND HE LOOKED AT
ME -- TOM WAS OUT OF THE ROOM --
AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID AM
I OKAY NOW, MOM, WILL I NOT DIE
IN MY SLEEP?
AND THAT -- THAT JUST ABOUT
KILLED ME BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA
THAT HE WAS EVEN THINKING THAT.
>> Reporter: SO HOW DO YOU
DEAL WITH IT NOW?
WHAT'S THE CHALLENGE FOR YOU AND
HOW DO YOU SUPPORT YOUR SON?
>> WELL, TO JUST KEEP HIM
POSITIVE AND SAY NOTHING IS SET
IN STONE AND IF WE FIND A LITTLE
DOOR WE'LL GO THROUGH IT.
AND WE'LL DO IT AS A FAMILY AND
YOU GOT ALL OF THE SUPPORT FROM
AROUND THE WORLD.
SO I SAID LET'S DO IT.
AND HE'S OKAY.
>> Reporter: YOU SAY THAT YOU
LIKE A CHALLENGE.
>> YEAH.
>> Reporter: WHERE DO YOU SET
YOUR GOALS NOW?
>> I JUST SET MY GOALS, LIKE, IF
I HAVE TO GET INTO A WHEELCHAIR
TODAY AND I KNOW THAT I WILL SIT
IN IT LONGER THAN I DID
YESTERDAY.
IF I HAVE TO SIT UP ON THE EDGE
OF THE BED AND PRACTISE TO KEEP
MY BALANCE, I'LL DO IT LONGER
EACH DAY AND TRY TO DO MORE
THINGS.
SO JUST NOT HUGE THINGS, JUST
LITTLE THINGS AND BUILD UP
TOWARDS THE FINAL DAYS HERE.
>> Reporter: THE MANY HOSPITAL
VISITS HAVE BEEN A BIG BOOST AND
SO HAS THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT
FROM CANADIANS.
AND THEN THERE WERE A FEW
UNIQUELY HOCKEY MOMENTS.
>> AND SOMEONE NUDGED ME AND I
WOKE UP AND THERE'S A STANLEY
CUP IN FRONT OF ME.
BUT I WAS ALWAYS TOLD THAT YOU
HAVE TO EARN THE STANLEY CUP SO
I DIDN'T TOUCH IT.
>> Reporter: STILL, A FIERCELY
MOTIVATED ATHLETE, RYAN IS
TAKING ON THIS NEXT PHASE OF
TRAINING WITH A HUGE DOSE OF
COURAGE.
>> I JUST WANT TO GET BACK ON
THE ICE, WHETHER IT'S SLEDGE
HOCKEY OR POSSIBLY LIKE COACHING
OR SCOUTING, I JUST LOVE BEING
ON THE ICE.
SO ANYWAY THAT I CAN DO THAT
WOULD BE AWESOME.
>> Reporter: SUSAN ORMISTON,
CBC NEWS, CALGARY.
>> Andrew: IAN, A LONG ROAD
AHEAD BUT HE SEEMS UP TO THE
CHALLENGE.
RYAN'S FAMILY SAYS THEY'RE GOING
TO REDESIGN THEIR HOUSE TO HELP
HIM WITH HIS RECOVERY AND
FAMILIES LIKE THEIRS WILL GET
EXTRA HELP THIS FRIDAY WITH
PROCEEDS ON FRIDAY
FROM A CONCERT FEATURING SOME OF
CANADA'S BIGGEST STARS.
>> Ian: WATCHING THAT INTERVIEW
IT'S A REMINDER THAT IT'S BEEN A
COUPLE OF DIFFICULT WEEKS IN
THIS COUNTRY.
THE TRAGEDY IN HUMBOLDT AND NOW
THIS ATTACK IN TORONTO.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS CARTOON THAT
SEEMS TO EXPRESS HOW WE HAVE
BEEN BESET BY GRIEF AND COME
TOGETHER IN THAT GRIEF.
THIS IS BY MICHAEL MICHAEL de
ADDER IN HALIFAX.
THE ARTIST POSTED IT ON TWITTER
THIS
MORNING AND NOT SURPRISINGLY
IT'S BEEN SHARED THOUSANDS OF
TIMES.
>> Andrew: FOR ALL OF OUR
VIEWERS ON INSTAGRAM WE HAVE
SHARED SEVERAL POWER IMAGES FROM
THE MEMORIAL ON OUR NATIONAL
ACCOUNT.
YOU CAN FOLLOW @CBCTHENATIONAL.
MORE SPECIAL COVERAGE AHEAD.
(*)
>> Andrew: TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL," IT'S REPORTED THAT
TWO MEN HAVE BEEN DETAINED IN
CONNECTION WITH THE KILLING OF A
CANADIAN MAN.
WOODROFFE WAS FOUND DEAD
SATURDAY IN A REMOTE VILLAGE IN
THE AMAZON.
AUTHORITIES SAY THAT HE WAS
ACCUSED OF MURDERING A SPIRITUAL
HEALER AND WAS KILLED BY A
LISTEN MOB IN RETALIATION.
ACCORDING TO POLICE, THE TWO MEN
DETAINED WERE PART OF THAT MOB
BUT THEY ADD THEY DON'T KNOW WHO
WAS BEHIND THE SPIRITUAL
HEALER'S MURDER.
>>> A LIBERAL M.P. IS ACCUSED OF
SEXUAL ASSAULT IS SPEAKING OUT
CALLING THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST
HIM A CASE OF MISTAKEN IDENTITY.
FRANCIS DROUIN SAID THAT HIS
ACCUSER GOT THE WRONG GUY.
HE'S ACCUSED OF GRABBING A WOMAN
FROM BEHIND AT A HALIFAX BAR
EARLY SATURDAY AND DROUIN SAYS
WHILE HE WAS AT THE BAR IT WAS
SOMEONE ELSE WHO GRABBED THE
WOMAN.
POLICE ARE INVESTIGATING.
>>> ONE OF THE OTHER STORIES
THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING TONIGHT,
THE WHITE HOUSE HOSTING A LAVISH
STATE DINNER FOR THE FRENCH
PRESIDENT TONIGHT.
THE VISIT IS BEING CALLED A TEST
OF FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO
COUNTRIES, BUT AS PAUL HUNTER
EXPLAINS THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN
THAT ON THE LINE.
(*)
>> Reporter: YES, THE FIRST
STATE VISIT FOR THE TRUMP WHITE
HOUSE HAD PLENTY OF THIS...
(*)
BUT THEN CAME THE WEIRD BITS.
THE AWKWARD SPLAYED FINGER ARM
RAISE, THE HAND HOLDING BY
THE ROSE GARDEN.
IN THE OVAL OFFICE DONALD TRUMP
NOTICED A WHITE FLECK ON THE
FRENCH PRESIDENT'S SHOULDER.
>> President Donald Trump:
I'LL GET THAT LITTLE PIECE OF
DANDRUFF OFF FOR HIM.
WE HAVE TO MAKE HIM PERFECT.
HE IS PERFECT.
>> Reporter: AND AT THEIR
PRESS CONFERENCE SOON AFTER
EMMANUEL MACRON GOES FOR THE
FULL-ON MAN HUG, CHEEK-TO-CHEEK.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
[laughter]
>> President Donald Trump: I
LIKE HIM A LOT.
>> Reporter: IN FAIRNESS,
TRUMP SMILED.
FOR BOTH LEADERS THEIR
RELATIONSHIP IS IN THE SPOTLIGHT
ON THIS TRIP.
FOR TRUMP IT'S A CHANCE TO WIN A
NEEDED ALLY IN A KEY COUNTRY.
FOR MACRON A THUMBS UP FROM
TRUMP GROWS HIS STANDING IN
EUROPE AND BEYOND.
BUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES, NOT
LEAST THE IRANIAN DEAL.
FAVOURED BY FRANCE, TRASHED BY
TRUMP, INCLUDING TODAY.
AS MACRON LISTENED...
>> President Donald Trump:
IT'S A BAD DEAL, IT'S A BAD
STRUCTURE.
IT'S FALLING DOWN.
SHOULD HAVE NEVER, EVER BEEN
MADE.
>> Reporter: MACRON'S VIEW --
DON'T KILL THE DEAL, STRENGTHEN
IT.
>> [Speaking French]
>> Reporter: I HAVE ALWAYS
SAID THAT WE SHOULD NOT TEAR
APART THE DEAL AND HAVE NOTHING
ELSE, HE SAID.
AND THOUGH TRUMP HINTED THAT
MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO TWEAK IT,
A DEADLINE ON WHETHER HE'LL
STICK WITH IT LOOMS -- MAY
12th.
>> President Donald Trump:
WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON THE
12th BUT I WILL SAY THAT IF
IRAN THREATENS US IN ANY WAY
THAT THEY WILL PAY A PRICE LIKE
FEW COUNTRIES HAVE EVER PAID.
>> Reporter: TO KEEP THE DEAL
OR DUMP IT?
IN THIS VISIT MACRON WILL TRY TO
CONVINCE TRUMP THAT IT'S WORTH
PRESERVING, A TEST OF WHAT TRUMP
TODAY CALLED "A WONDERFUL
FRIENDSHIP."
AWKWARD MOMENTS AND ALL.
PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
>> Andrew: AS WE GO TO BREAK
HERE'S A LIVE LOOK AT THE
PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS IN OTTAWA.
THE FLAGS ON THE PEACE TOWER ARE
AT HALF MAST IN SYMPATHY FOR THE
VICTIMS OF THE ATTACK IN
TORONTO.
IAN WILL BE BACK IN JUST A
MOMENT FROM THE MEMORIAL.
>> Ian: AS YOU'VE SEEN, PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN GATHERING NEAR THE
SCENE OF YESTERDAY'S ATTACK,
PAYING TRIBUTE AND PAYING
RESPECT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO
GATHERING ON-LINE, SHARING
STORIES OF HOPE, GRATITUDE AND
KINDNESS WITH #TORONTOTHEGOOD.
THAT'S OUR "MOMENT OF THE DAY."
>> TORONTO THE GOOD IS PEOPLE
THAT LIVE HERE THAT MAKE UP THE
CITY.
I'VE HAD SO MANY TIMES IN MY
LIFE WHERE COMPLETE STRANGERS
WERE THERE FOR ME, HELPED ME
MORE THAN THEY KNOW.
>> IT'S BUYING THE GUY BEHIND ME
A COFFEE AND WATCHING IT PAY IT
FORWARD BEFORE I LEFT THE STORE.
>> PEOPLE ARE ASKING HOW THEY
CAN HELP THE VICTIMS AND
FAMILIES AFFECTED BY YESTERDAY'S
TRAGIC EVENTS.
>> DONATING BLOOD.
>> WE CAN DO MORE THAN JUST
MEANING WELL.
>> THE 501 STREETCAR DRIVER THAT
STOPPED THE CAR LAST NIGHT AND
WALKED UP AND DOWN THE AISLES
ENSURING THAT EVERYONE KNEW THAT
SOUTH KINGS WAY WOULD BE THE
LAST STOP.
>> TORONTO THE GOOD.
THANK YOU TO THE PERSON THAT
BOUGHT MY TIM'S ORDER TODAY.
YOU MADE ME SMILE.
TORONTO THE GOOD.
>> Ian: I HAVE TO SAY, WHERE I'M
STANDING HERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE
HERE PAYING RESPECTS TO THE
VIGIL, BUT RIGHT THERE, YONGE
STREET, TRAFFIC FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN 24 HOURS SLOWLY
RETURNING TO SOME SENSE OF
NORMAL.
>> Rosemary: THERE WERE LOTS OF
FREE COFFEES.
THIS WAS MY FAVOURITE TWEET.
"I JUST HAD THE PERSON IN FRONT
OF ME PAY FOR MY COFFEE.
I PAID FOR THE ONE BEHIND ME AND
DIDN'T EVEN JUDGE THEM FOR
GETTING A PLAIN, UNTOASTED
BAGEL."
[LAUGHTER]
>> Andrew: THE INDIVIDUAL
MOMENTS ARE SPECIAL, BUT WHAT I
FOUND SPECIAL WAS THE SHEER
NUMBER OF THEM.
WE REACHED OUT TO PEOPLE TO ASK
THEM TO TELL US ABOUT THE
INDIVIDUAL MOMENTS OF KINDNESS
AND SO MANY OF THEM REPLIED,
LIKE THE VIDEOS YOU SAW THERE.
QUITE A MOMENT.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON THE
PROGRAMME FOR THIS APRIL 24.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: GOOD NIGHT.
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