welcome to the healthy meat episode 3 I'm Trina Felber registered nurse and
CEO of primal life organics and I believe there is a healthy person living
in everyone the healthy me is designed to call up your healthy self step out of
your comfort zone shake things up and get results so let's find and empower
your healthy me today I am joined by Gary John Bishop author of on yourself
and Gary is one of the leading personal development experts in the industry his
urban philosophy approach represents a new wave of personal empowerment and
life mastery that has provided miraculous results for people in the
quality and performance of their life and he is joining me today to help you
get out of your head and into your life thank you Gary
ok so I have to say first of all I love the cover of the book and I love the
title because it totally spoke to me so can you help
tell everybody what the book is about and what was your meaning behind it or
what what did you want to accomplish yeah so the book is about the way that
we cannot talk ourselves out of love in great ways right but but it goes a
little deep on that kind of touches on the their unseen and the unheard right
so you're constantly at dialogue yourselves and most of that dialogue you
don't notice but you're constantly talking to yourself and the book
actually uncovers ways for you to break out of that cycle and one of the things
that I was really thing that I was really committed with with this book was
that it wasn't some camping giant opus right I mean it would be pointless to
write a book called get out of your head and into your life and it takes you
eight days to read it so I really wanted it to be clunky like this little pocket
battleship that when you put it down it can inspire you to stand up and do
something different and in you know if you're somebody in your life you want
introduce new results if your stock when it comes down to it
you're gonna have to do something different and you know you might want to
feel different you might want to get inspired you might want to get power but
ultimately you'll still need to do something different and you know I'm
really I'm really inspired by some of the results of combined from people
because they're saying that's what they're doing with a book they've read
the book and that's ah and I can totally attest to
that because I have been through a lot of I'm really into personal development
I've read a lot of books on personal development I've been to a lot of
mastery classes and things like that and of course I've walked away with
something from everything but when I picked up a copy of your book first of
all I loved the title so much and it never dawned on me until reading your
book how much I talked to myself I didn't even realize it so it brought in
me to the forefront just the awareness of what I'm saying to myself and how
often I'm saying it and 90% of the time until you're conscious of it you don't
realize that you're the one saying oh you can't do that oh you're not good
enough oh no way you can never accomplish that I'm saying to myself I'm
not good enough but if you actually look at what you do in life you'll see what
you're saying yourself so your life is a product of what you say to yourself so
everything you're saying to yourself every day you're living that way II know
it seems like I'm living the life of my circumstances and but my answer to that
is you have the circumstances that are consistent we are internal dialogue so
your life is a reflection of that right what time for a second about I know in
the book you talk about uncertainty but uncertainty is where things happen and
it's an opportunity for growth so I want you to expand on that yeah yes so when
you were a kid yet no problem with uncertainty right you would actually can
I enter the whole idea of uncertainty you know you're I mean that's why if
you've got kids who you've been around kids
you know you got to watch them cuz a two-year-old will do just one door right
I know I'm not saying you should start doing that there's a lot wrong with
being too right I mean the sanitation along but
there's something about the intere being three of being for business kind of
wonder of what it is to be alive that as we get older we started crave more
production more predictability and so that's kind of like the crossroads where
human beings exist hearing beings what exists hardwired for things to be
certain yet yearnings for new things to happen and so you end up not gonna stop
this at time see your life where you want something new but the uncertainty
of the new it's too daunting a task and I say to people like you gotta like God
looked at the uncertain is something to be avoided I mean there are some cruddy
things that can happen on uncertainty for sure right but at the same time
nothing great I love what happen in your life until you step into what's
uncertain nothing great I'll ever have but you have to rescue at some point and
you can't get away with safety and you can try to Jason plan your way to safety
because even in the most amazing plans you can get blindsided so I say to
people embrace uncertainty step right out there and you'll realize you had a
lot better equipped than you think you are I agree I totally agree and I have
to say that I was so inspired after reading actually I bought the book and
then I downloaded it and I listened to it in the sauna so I was in the sauna
sweating like you wouldn't believe and every night I would listen to the
book and I loved the audiobook so if anybody has the can get the audio but
it's him it's you reading so you get your accent and everything reading to
you and it's the the power of your voice is also very strong because I can tell
that you're committed and that you have a lot of feeling you know in here
there's a lot of feeling yeah I mean you know well you have been doing this
personal development thing either is a participant or is somebody
gives it away to people for about a thousand years and you ask my why should
tell you making a difference for people and that's all people includes my
neighbors it includes you know going any Starbucks it includes writing books and
11:00 and courses and you know speaking events and really I've given my life to
what it was it gonna take to have people wake up to themselves and and you know
straight up below for some new kind of life for themselves and I'm Pasha and
it's a great way to can I spend your life I I thank you for that I totally
think you because really like I said I bought the book for every one of my
staff members everyone that works for me all of my team members I bought the book
for them to share and I said don't just keep this for yourself like when you
read it give it away I want you to give it to someone else because it's a gift
it's a total gift and I told the young kids the kids that are like sixteen we
sent it home in a in a bag or you know of an envelope and I said give it to
your parents and let them read it first because they probably need it you know I
think it's council you know I mean oh oh do what I do for nothing and you know
anybody who knows me would tell you I have done it for nothing nothing will
you walk the walk and talk the talk so it's your life oh good what else he
going to do it's Kelly you can't call yourself something and they're not you
know steep yourself in I'm really I'm fascinated I spend most of my days
reading and studying and like what does it take to get somebody from A to B and
it's not the usual stuff that we say like well power or something you know
which I'm still not even sure what that is but I or some sense
personal discipline or some we wear discipline exist for a human being you
know if you've got it look where is that where is the discipline organ is it just
underneath my liver and where is the where's that that's a pointer of that or
the self belief where is that I can't find out either so I'm always looking
for ways like little ways for people that cannot to wake up to certain
aspects of themselves to realize and I like what you said like you going up
where necessary didn't have yeah and you know you would have said that you know
to be free one must make that which is unconscious conscious right saying
you're always doing that well like you said you drive to work every day and
you're unconscious you get from point A to point B without even thinking about
it but you have had a conversation that's why you're really nothing you had
a conversation with yourself the entire time and yeah and you don't even realize
it and and it it blew my mind the first time I realized the things that I was
saying to myself and how can I rewire myself to talk better to myself to lift
myself up and then teach my kids the same philosophy of how are you talking
to yourself because it's so powerful it's really critical for people who can
I'm not talking about positive you know speaking or song-ah but like you know
you can do it right yeah that's not what you're talking about no so great good
talking about yourselves you're awesome probably lost you can't do I'm not
talking about that what I'm really fascinated that the boat
is when people can confront themselves when they can look themselves the mirror
and tell themselves the truth and I don't mean the truth like in a dramatic
way oh my god I mean like look at yourself in a mirror and ask yourself
what are you doing where are you going what's this about what is this you know
worth is taking you what are you tolerating what are you putting up with
what do you deny and denial about what are you pretending my and and
like woke yourself right in the eye and tell yourself the truth and you know my
fundamental philosophy if you like starts in this word cult responsibility
and that responsibility get such a bad rap you know because people think it's
got something to do with that you're to blame or something it's getting ugly do
it without so it's about are you going to take ownership of your life or you
want to give it to somebody or something else alright so you going to take on a
ship that you in a bad mood are you going to blame on your job are you gonna
take ownership your finances are you going to blame on your parents you never
send you to college are you going to take ownership for your you know you
know your correlation Chevy your husband or your wife and stop blaming it on that
you only start living your life like it all goes the way you say and then if you
got really committed to that you can see that and I love the whole I mean I just
love the whole notion of somebody embrace and all of it like everything is
going on the length of your money your body own it because own it no you got a
say in it and then you don't when you put it down to something like you know
like if it's you're white for instance like oh you know I really I can't seem
to build the habit to do it or you know whatever that is you tell yourself to
explain why you're not doing well you know you should you got to own that you
already start is my favorite philosophers again coke Martin Heidi uh
Heidi I would have said you're going to intervene with yourself right you
intervene you stop the bus and say alright we're not doing this anymore I'm
going to take this bus in a whole other direction
and that would be the direction of uncertainty by the way just to kind of
throw that naive taking that risk because that's right that is where
growth and change happens so can you talk one of my favorite things that you
talked about in the book was relationships and how if you are in
crummy relationship after crummy relationship hi
you are still succeeding in your life can you blame that because like I know a
lot of people that are you know out there and watching I've
been in the same relationship over and over and over again so talk I want you
to talk about that yeah South Coast a lot of people in
relationships I've got a small coaching business it used to be very big but it's
really small now I don't have a time for that but girls don't people come to me
the relationship stuff and them and then I say well if you just look at the state
your relationship right now if it keeps going that way where does it
know and then they'll say well we're doggies flat off and I'll say okay know
what point does that prove to you and the way why it doesn't prove a point to
me but if you peel back at it you'll actually see you on a one-way street to
proving a certain point about yourself or about others or about lights and it
really shows up and you're romantic relationship so I know some of your
lessons might be like no no I keep attracting certain kind of person but
don't attract anything you lunatic you hunt them down find these people like
where oh you'll do oh yeah oh yeah yeah you're like angry and self justified
let's go then and I'm telling you look if your listeners like really get
present to and think about it if you look back in your relationships have
been work there was something in the beginning where you told yourself like I
don't know and then you can over tame it and then by the end of the relationship
that thing that you overcame that's what broke it and you'll find that thing was
there the whole time so people are always winning whether they're conscious
of what they're winning a torn off and mostly we're not conscious of the games
were right we think we're in some other game right like you know get angry with
somebody in my life to demonstrate how much I care for her
wouldn't you just tell them you can't what's not beer just to do that rather
than losing your business over no so that's kind of what we doing least
though we I like to call it you love these lives of intention so we've got
something in mind but we're not really clear but what we've got my mini tail
look and the reality of our life to see what will God and again I do that see my
clients I say well if you look at your whole life in terms of like every area
of your life right now you're winning what are the games you're
playing yeah that's true yeah I wouldn't have a no money all right
and I wouldn't be an overweight and I'm went into being terrible in
relationships and I'm wanting it not going back to college and on and on and
on and on so isn't there's a part in the book where you talk about what you're
willing to do or what you're not willing to do am i right yeah yeah and I sort of
related to I'm not willing to live like that cuz that struck a little bit
stronger for me then the so talk about that for a second alright so that I said
this thing few years ago it's probably one of the things that because I've
always been doing this but I haven't really had much of an online profile
said I said this thing attention thing I said was you have the life that you're
willing to put up with right in a and I said yeah but you have this you have the
life that you're willing to not wait how do i how do I know I'm going to put up
with that because you have it so you look at like you're less loves
are willing to have the baggage they have why because that's the body you out
you're willing to have the finances you have white because that's the finances
you have and I really Golf for myself like again I'm fascinated this whole
thing responsibility but if you if you look at your life from the perspective
of your willingness right usually how we describe the lights is be say stuff like
well can't do that right I don't think I can
do that or that's impossible or it's not for me or I struggle with
that or I'm challenged by that or whatever and I say people will look at
it in terms of willingness what if you came at it from I'm actually unwilling
to do that like I'm unwilling to do everything that it takes or everything
that that is all right and that can work both ways they can work in like I'm no
longer willing to put up with that right or I can confront some reality with
myself like I say I want to lose weight but the reality is I'm unwilling to deal
with myself to lose weight right I know right yeah then you're kind of like oh
but but then you can deal with it you can't deal with the unwillingness and
decide whether you are gonna live with the unwillingness and the way you are or
are you now no longer gonna be willing to live the way that you are and change
it's about I like to say this way it's about bringing things and hos that you
didn't think belong then huh well it's about making things yours no to do
something about rather than throwing your hands up in the air and explaining
why you can't right because you're going to get this in and this is for all human
beings but I know and it's of a challenge in some of those is be
challenging some of those already determined parameters that you don't
even realize you've set yourself up like that mm-hmm it's a habit
well look neuroscience would tell you that your personality is nothing more
than a bad habit and I say yeah yeah it is it's what you are so used to
functioning from and you have to almost create a second personality to function
from what I say to people is you can't you can't do something about something
you don't understand yet normally understand your own wiring fascinated by
you actually you actually can check yourself you would notice repetitive
thoughts you notice repetitive like physical states that you actually feel a
certain way we embodied experience your body in a certain way and you also very
familiar daily emotional states I mean my gosh like the same emotions so when
for instance an example in my life so I have an internal dialogue that says it's
always going well seems like he's always going I'm never going to make make what
whatever I'm doing I'm not gonna make it so we get up in the morning and have a
shower I'm never gonna make it as a shower and I'm gonna go down the stairs
and have a coffee I'm never gonna make it has a cup of
coffee I'm never going to make it a laptop great that's your personality
well the only thing that I'm kind of gun used to know is not doing what that says
because there's no point right I never got bacon I just keep plugging away
anyway so I include those internal dialogues no because I'm so aware
whether I like or not and for people that say you can control your thoughts
you can't really if I see that we're dinosaur stop yourself right now
picturing a dinosaur I know it's so true because even when you say I want more
positive thoughts I want to be positive all day it doesn't happen so you have to
be conscious so that you can stop and rewire yourself just a little bit keep
yourself on the right path yeah if you think about it this way
right like if you think about it in terms up I'll use these little head
phones as an example ok so then your brain does like it thoughts that go
right and they have to go would follow us technical cannot pattern ok now if
you haven't thought about yourself like I'm not good enough right if you try and
stop that all you've got to do is just keep going around with the same thought
over and over and over and over you can actually stop a negative pattern thought
the only thing you can do is introduce at their front one and then give your
attention and that start acting on that everyone so it's not about stopping old
things it's about introducing new things and expressing yourself in new ways and
try and things I pick up take a rest for yourself try out being confident at
times when you don't even feel like oh boy and once you're go walk in there
with confidence right am I not quite and it's not fake it till you make it let
her leave try it right right if you still if you repetitively do the
same thing you're gonna get the same result so you've got to do something and
make a change and oh my gosh so I don't want to take too much more of your time
I so appreciate it I want you to tell everybody where they can get your book
beat one after yourself I mean anyway you can get books like and you can get
the audio version as well because that's what I did version the audio version I
believe is in the top 20 of all audiobooks in the United States pretty
stuff pretty great and then you can also catch up and meet my website Gary told
Bishop Kong you can catch up with me on Instagram Gary chunk - yep Twitter Gary
John Bishop and then on Facebook one in seven billion so if you jump on to
Facebook you can join that thing before about a quarter of a million followers
on yeah people are people are pretty pretty gripped by the notion of
unearthing themselves these days I think so I think everybody needs to serious
like in one way or another died integer hey so tell me because I know at the end
of the audio book because I listened to the whole thing twice yeah the end you
mentioned a course so talk tell me about the course I'm stone a live course with
an audience in December it will be released at the end of December you'll
find on my website nothing and the course is going to be split any seedbeds
so you can buy a benefit you'll own it and it comes with electronic materials
you can it's a little workbook and you can actually give you things to go to
work on that you can use the book right you can use the book as your personal
coach so in the course what we do is uncover these kind of diamonds and the
mud in your life and like it again and then we unleash you to get to work on
them and it's it's a methodology I've used for a number of years but somebody
who's interested in really changing your life by taking your wife another
direction it's definitely the course for you and you'll find information about on
my website alright and the website again did you join bishop yeah his name okay
so guys anybody that's watching or listening you've got to check it out you
will be inspired I'm just my little things that you never thought of I mean
the book like I said changed my life and so much so that I bought a copy for all
of my team members and everybody in my life there's for Christmas guess what
everybody's getting and they're stalking I'm giving everybody this and first of
all my favorite reaction is when they look at it and they go away like that
thanks yeah that is the best so Christmas present this would be the best
thing or birthday presents whatever and it sends a message to I really didn't
know - it's not spelled with profanity there's a couple of curse words in it
right I mean it's it's it's so well written and so powerful your message is
so powerful and I think it transforms lives just after reading the first
chapter to be honest with you thank you so much and that was my intention
awesome thank you so much for joining me on the healthy meat I totally appreciate
it and love what you're doing and I'm going to be looking out for your course
awesome thanks for having me Trina all right take care
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