IMMIGRATION CONTINUES TO BE A HOT TOPIC HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES AND SOME ARE WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT
THINGS HAVE REALLY CHANGED UNDER TRUMPS ADMINISTRATION.
THERE WAS A STORY RECENTLY COVERED BY THE WASHINGTON
POST INVOLVING A WOMAN IN EL PASO, TEXAS WHO WAS
UNDOCUMENTED, BUT NEEDED TO GET SOME PROTECTION FROM THE
GOVERNMENT AGAINST HER ABUSIVE BOYFRIEND.
DURING A PROTECTIVE ORDER HEARING, JUDGE DID GRANT
HER CERTAIN PROTECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT HER BOYFRIEND
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME AFTER HER, HOWEVER, IMMEDIATELY
AFTER THE HEARING, ICE OFFICIALS DETAINED HER AND DEPORTED HER.
LAST FALL, THE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT FILED HER FIRST
OF THREE POLICE REPORTS AGAINST HER LIVE-IN BOYFRIEND WHOM
SHE ACCUSED OF PUNCHING, KICKING AND CHOKING HER AND PULLING
HER HAIR.
AFTER FAILING TO STAB HER WITH A KNIFE, THE
BOYFRIEND THREW THE BLADE AT HER INSTEAD.
HE MISSED.
JESUS.
AN INTERESTING COMPONENTS OF THE STORY IS HOW WITNESSES
THAT WERE THERE, INCLUDING THE JUDGE, HAVE A COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT STORY OF HOW IT WENT DOWN COMPARED TO WHAT ICE
OFFICIALS ARE SAYING.
ICE OFFICIALS SAID THEY WERE NOT STAKING HER OUT, THERE
WEREN'T ANY ICE OFFICIALS IN THE COURTROOM, HOWEVER, THAT
DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE CASE.
THERE WERE SIX ICE AGENTS
INSIDE THE COURTHOUSE THAT DAY, ONE INSIDE THE COURTROOM AND
OTHERS STANDING BY THE DOOR AND STAIRWELLS.
THEY ESCORTED HER DOWN THE HALLWAY, INTO THE ELEVATOR
AND OUTSIDE THE BUILDING, WHERE THEY DETAINED HER.
THAT WOULD BE TOUGH IF THEY WEREN'T IN THE BUILDING.
THE NARRATIVE OF THE ICE AFFIDAVIT DOES NOT MENTION
ANY CONTACT INSIDE THE COURTHOUSE OR THE COURTROOM.
IN FACT, THE AFFIDAVIT SAID AGENTS SAW THE WOMAN EXITING
THE EL PASO COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND PROCEEDED TO WALK ALONG
THE SIDEWALK ON SAN ANTONIO AVE.
AGENTS IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AND QUESTIONED IDG, THE WOMAN,
WHO ADMITTED TO BEING A MEXICAN CITIZEN WHO WAS IN THE
UNITED STATES WITH ILLEGAL STATUS.
YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE FULL STORY SO LET ME GIVE YOU ALL OF
THE FACTS.
APPARENTLY THIS WOMAN DID HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD, ARREST FOR
ASSAULT, VIOLATING PROBATION, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, FALSE
IMPRISONMENT, POSSESSION OF STOLEN MAIL.
THAT IS INFORMATION THAT SOME OF YOU MIGHT THINK YES,
THEY SHOULD'VE DEPORTED HER.
THE WAY THEY DEPORTED HER IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IN THE
STATE OF TEXAS, IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO COURT LOOKING FOR
PROTECTIVE ORDER, EVEN IF THE INDIVIDUAL IS UNDOCUMENTED,
THE STATE IS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THAT PERSON AND LOOK OUT
FOR THEM REGARDLESS OF THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS.
THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A
SYSTEM IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN BE ABUSED OR HARMED IN ANY WAY
JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDOCUMENTED.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A CASE THAT WE SHOULDN'T MAKE SPECIAL
EXCEPTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS AND THEYíRE HERE
ILLEGALLY, I HEAR YOU, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE WAY THAT THIS
WENT ON HAS A CHILLING EFFECT ON OTHER PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NEED
HELP BECAUSE THEY ARE DEALING WITH ABUSE OR HARM AND ALL
OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT GOING TO THE
AUTHORITIES BECAUSE THEY MIGHT GET DEPORTED OR DETAINED.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE WHOLE THING ABOUT THEM
BICKERING ABOUT WHETHER THEY WERE ACTUALLY IN THE
BUILDING OR NOT, I AM NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
EVEN THE PARTICULAR CASE, THIS IS A PERSON WHO HAS A
CRIMINAL RECORD, THAT IS THE PERSON WHO UNDER CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD BE DEPORTED.
I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE PARTICULAR CASE BUT THAT THIS
SORT OF THING COULD BE PRECEDENT-SETTING WHERE YOU HAVE
PEOPLE WHO ARE SKIRTING THE CURRENT LETTER OR SPIRIT OF THE
LAW, THE INTENT OF THE LAW, AND DOING WHATEVER THEY CAN
TO TRACK DOWN PEOPLE AND WE SAW THE WAVE OF TRAFFIC STOPS THAT
ICE HAD SET UP.
IN CITIES LIKE LA, WE HAD IT HERE TOO AND FOR THAT TO
BECOME MORE COMMON IS SCARY AND LIKE YOU SAID, CHILLING.
WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE CHECKPOINTS, IT IS REALLY
INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT NARRATIVES PLAYING
OUT.
ONE IS WHAT THE LATINO COMMUNITY IS SAYING ITíS HAPPENING
WHICH IS YES, THESE CHECKPOINTS EXIST AND IT IS PROBLEMATIC
BECAUSE NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE ARE STAYING HOME,
THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO WORK OR OUT TO THE STORES.
THEY JUST WANT TO STAY PUT BECAUSE THEY ARE WORRIED
ABOUT THE CHECKPOINTS.
AT THE SAME TIME, ICE CONTINUOUSLY DENIES THAT THESE
CHECKPOINTS EXIST OR HAVE EVER HAPPENED.
IN THIS WASHINGTON POST
PIECE THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW THE CHECKPOINTS ARENíT HAPPENING, BASED
ON INDIVIDUALS I HAVE TALKED TO IN LOS ANGELES, I WENT TO ONE
PARTICULAR AREA IN LOS ANGELES WHERE THESE ICE CHECKPOINTS WERE
ALLEGEDLY HAPPENING AND ACTUALLY SPOKE TO A FEW BUSINESS
OWNERS BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS IF IT WAS TRUE.
BUSINESS
OWNERS SAID YES, IT IS TRUE AND THEY ARE NOT ALL LATINOS.
ALL SORTS OF BUSINESS OWNERS WITH DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY ICE IS DENYING IT, BUT IT SEEMS AS THOSE
THESE CHECKPOINTS ARE HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND
IT DOES HAVE A CHILLING EFFECT.
I WANT TO MAKE A SLIGHTLY BROADER POINT BECAUSE WE'VE
SEEN IN JUST THE PAST FEW WEEKS THE SORTS OF THINGS START
TO POP UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
ITíS POSSIBLE THAT THEY ARE JUST RECEIVING MORE NEWS
COVERAGE, I CANNOT RULE THAT OUT BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE THINGS
ARE CHANGING AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE UNFORTUNATELY COMMENTATORS
WHO ARE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO MENTALLY DISARM YOU AGAINST
THE THINGS THAT ARE CHANGING BY PULLING YOU INTO THINKING THAT
OBAMA HAD DONE THIS AND THIS IS THE WAY IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
TRUMP ISN'T REALLY THAT BAD, IS HE REALLY CHANGING ANYTHING?
THE WAY THEY WILL DO THAT IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T
KNOW HOW STATISTICS WORK OR DO EXTRA RESEARCH.
THEY
WILL LOOK AT THE NUMBERS UNDER OBAMA AND SAY LOOK, HE
DEPORTED A LOT OF PEOPLE, THAT'S, WE'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED
A LOT OF PEOPLE AND SO IF TRUMP CALLS ABOUT HUNDRED THOUSAND
NATIONAL SECURITY GUARDS AND SENDS THEM TO PORTLAND AND
TAKING PEOPLE WHO DID THERE FOR DECADES AND TAKES HER
FAMILY AND SUPPORT THEM, WELL, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD IT THAT WAY,
IT IS ALWAYS BEEN REALLY BAD BUT THAT IS A COMPLETE MISREADING
OF OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING STARKLY IN THE UNITED STATES.
YES, OBAMA DEPORTED A LOT OF PEOPLE.
HE DEPORTED MORE PEOPLE THAN GEORGE W.
BUSH BUT WHEN YOU BREAK DOWN WHAT THOSE DEPORTATIONS
ACTUALLY REPRESENTED, 80 OR 90% WERE PEOPLE WHO HAD
LITERALLY JUST CROSSED OVER THE BORDER LINE, WERE TAKEN WITHIN
50 MILES OF THE BORDER AND WERE SENT BACK.
YOU CAN SAY, WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT AND IT WOULD BE SAID
THAT IT TO THAT POINT BUT WHAT THAT IS IS NOT TAKING
SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN THIS COUNTRY FOR DECADES,
PICKING UP FAMILIES, GOING INTO COURTHOUSES AND SETTING UP
TRAFFIC STOPS IN ILLINOIS AND SUPPORTING PEOPLE TO THIS A
FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS AND YOU CAN CLOAK A LOT OF
TRUTH WITH STATISTICS.
THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH STATISTICS.
THIS IS DIFFERENT AND WORSE.
THIS IS CHILLING TO PEOPLE'S ACTUAL MOVEMENT AND
ACTIVITIES AND THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITH PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S IMMIGRATION POLICY SHOULD NOT BE USED TO QUOTE
THE TERRIBLE MOVES BEING MADE BY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.
I SEE THAT ARGUMENT BEING MADE IN A VARIETY OF ISSUES
AND WITH DIFFERENT POLITICIANS PLAYING A ROLE.
OH, YOU CRITICIZE ONE POLITICIAN FOR DOING SOMETHING AND
THEN SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO DISTRACT YOU FROM THAT BY
POINTING TO THE FLAWS OF ANOTHER DUCK
IS ALL THE SAME, THEY ARE ALL BAD.
THAT IS A RIDICULOUS WAY OF DEALING WITH A VERY REAL
ISSUE IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T THINK THAT IMMIGRATION IS AS BLACK AND WHITE AS
PEOPLE MAKE IT OUT TO BE THAT I DON'T THINK IT IS ALL GREAT
AND YOU SHOULD JUST OPEN THE BORDERS AND LET PEOPLE COME
INTO A GREATER PEOPLE ARE HERE ILLEGALLY IN THEIR
COMMITTING CRIMES, THEY SHOULD BE DEPORTED.
AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY HAVE
BEEN MISLED INTO THINKING THAT UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS PROVIDE
NOTHING OF VALUE TO SOCIETY, AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
ECONOMICALLY, THEY PROVIDE QUITE A BIT WHICH IS WHY STATES
LIKE CALIFORNIA WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY PROTECT UNDOCUMENTED
IMMIGRANTS DIANE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE JUST CAN'T
SUPPORT HER, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE
FOR DECADES TO HAVE LIVES AND FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES AND PAY
TAXES IN STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA WHERE WE HAVE SALES TAX.
THAT IS A HUGE PART OF OUR ECONOMY.
IT IS NOT CLEAR-CUT AND THAT IS PRECISELY THE REASON WHY
IMMIGRATION, FOR A LONG TIME HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BIG ISSUE
WHEN POLITICIANS ARE CAMPAIGNING BUT ONCE THEY GET ELECTED,
THEY LET IT GO BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY OF IT.
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