(Singing) I know my God has made the way
for me. I know my God has made the way for me.
ANNOUNCER: Welcome to the Believer's Voice
of Victory. Join Gloria Copeland, Billye Brim,
and Billye's daughter, Shelli Baggett, for insight into
supernatural translations. Discover an instrument
God uses to reach His church. Here is Gloria.
GLORIA: Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Believer's
Voice of Victory. You're going to like
today. I have some exciting guests, Billye
Brim and her daughter Shelli Baggett. And we're going
to be hearing about translations-- BILLYE:
Translations and visions and supernatural things that are
going to be happening in the church, even have already
happened. GLORIA: Oh, let's hear it. I like it. BILLYE: One of
the Scriptures--you have to have Scriptures. GLORIA: Oh, yeah.
BILLYE: And one of them is-- GLORIA: Definitely. BILLYE:
--Peter preaching on the day of Pentecost. And he said, Acts
2:16, "This is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel--"
These are Jews all around him. They remember the prophet Joel,
that he said this. "--And it shall come to pass in the last
days," or end of days, "saith God, I will pour out of my
Spirit upon all flesh." Here's going to be the sign that's
poured out. "Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy--"
We're reading prophecies that Brother Hagin made, primarily.
GLORIA: Yeah, yeah. Good. BILLYE: Came through him.
"--your young men shall see visions, your old men shall
dream dreams: and on my servants and on my handmaidens I will
pour out in my Spirit; and they shall prophesy." So we talked
yesterday about visions. Visions are prophesied. We talked about
Kenneth E. Hagin and his book, "I Believe in Visions," which is
in our offer. And then I told you about this young man named
Max and that I had found out about visions years ago. And
that's why, when this young former Muslim--Muhanad was his
name, when he asked me to--he was born again, supernaturally,
like so many Muslims are, by hearing the voice of God.
GLORIA: Mm. BILLYE: And then he began to have open-eyed visions
of Jesus. He made a trip all the way from Wisconsin with his
Christian wife and his children and asked me if I would judge
those visions. So-- GLORIA: Mm. BILLYE: (Clears Throat) Excuse
me. He began to call me. And periodically, Jesus would appear
to him, open-eyed visions, and it would often be something
about--for instance, ISIS. He was one of the first ones that I
heard about--talk about ISIS. And Jesus had told him
that--what their plans were, how they planned to start in Iraq,
come down through--how they even planned to go to Mecca and
Medina. GLORIA: Wow. BILLYE: And how they planned to come down
through Jordan and then to Jerusalem. But Jesus said they
won't be able to do it. They won't be able to get it done. So
Max, he asked me to judge his visions. I taught him how to
judge visions himself. Because in the Word of God, it says
there are "false apostles, and deceitful workers, transforming
themselves into the apostles of Christ." This is II Corinthians
11:14. "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an
angel of light." So it's no big deal if his ministers do so. So
I taught him how to judge visions. I John 4:1, "Beloved,
believe not every Spirit, but try the spirits whether they are
of God." And then I John 4:1-3 tells us to test them and see if
they confess Jesus Christ came in the flesh. So he learned to
do that. And then on September 20th, 2016--now, we had an
election November 2nd, 2016. But in September, almost a month and
a half before, September 20th, the Lord Jesus appeared to him
and said, "Donald Trump will be the next President of the United
States." GLORIA: Hmm. BILLYE: So he shared that with me. And I'll
read some of the things he said that Jesus told him. "I've been
preparing him to be the president since 2008. In 2011,
he was not ready for the 2012 campaign. In 2013, he became
closer to Me. In 2015, I guided him to run for president. He's
going to have a lot of negativity and a rough road, but
he will be the President of the United States, primarily because
he is the one who will be protecting the USA, Israel, and
Jerusalem." GLORIA: Praise God. SHELLI: Mm-hmm. BILLYE: Jesus
told him--we talked about this on the phone with him. "He is
the chosen one because he will protect Jerusalem." And then
Jesus said to him, "People will be shocked. Donald Trump is
closer to Me now than anybody could imagine." GLORIA: Wow.
BILLYE: I shared that with my family. I urged the pray-ers to
pray. On October 2016, which is just before the election, he had
another open-eyed vision. The Lord spoke to him and said, "He
will be the president, but my children must stand together and
pray for him like they have never prayed for a president
before." GLORIA: Mm. BILLYE: So we have to do Timothy--I Timothy
2:1. First of all, we have to pray for presidents and kings
and those in authority. Every single day, devote yourself to
pray for our government. If we'd done that before, our presidents
would have done better. But this time, we have to do. Now, the
day before the election, it absolutely looked like Trump
could not win. Every poll said he did not win. And Max told me,
he said, "I got down on my knees. I said, 'Lord--'" And he
showed me a vision. This time the vision was not of Jesus, but
it was of Vs, two Vs together all over the sky. And Max said,
"V in Arabic is seven. So I thought he was doing 77s all
over the sky" because, you know, seven is a number in the Bible.
But Jesus spoke to him. Then he said, "No, this is in English.
This is--these are Vs for victory." GLORIA: Wow. BILLYE:
"He will have a double victory." So all over the sky were these
double victories. So I was scheduled to be on KCM's
election night coverage with David Barton--David Barton and
Michele Bachmann. I was just a telephone call-in. But they
asked me what I thought would happen. So I had to go--I
believe these visions, but the polls said otherwise. So just
as--just as much as I could, I said, "I believe Trump will
win." And on January 14, after he did win, the Lord spoke to
him, "The last few days before he takes office, it will be very
hard for him, hard on his heart and hard on his mind, but he
will make it. Christians must stand together and pray daily."
So we have to pray. Now, I believe-- I don't know, you
know, if you believe, not necessarily the authority around
here believes this is Donald J. Trump, but I do. I believe that
Brother Hagin prophesied he would--there would be a
president, and I think it's Donald J. Trump. Now, he
prophesied, and we've been reading this Longmont Prophecy.
And in it, he prophesied that--about a move of the Spirit
that's coming. And the Longmont Prophecy's over there-- GLORIA:
Okay. BILLYE: --in-- GLORIA: Oh, yeah, okay. BILLYE: I start down
here. No, that's not the Longmont Prophecy, is it?
Anyway, praise the Lord. GLORIA: All right. BILLYE: I'll read it
to you, okay? GLORIA: Is it one of these? SHELLI: Here's one.
BILLYE: Here's one, right there. And it's--this is not exactly
the same pages as mine, but... Yeah, that's it, Glo, right down
here. GLORIA: Got it. BILLYE: Right down here. SHELLI: Right.
BILLYE: He prophesied--Brother Hagin prophesied in 1974,
"There's going to be a move of the Spirit in the last days
which you've only seen a little of. And there shall be those
that stand before the leaders of this nation and work miracles."
I believe we have leaders in this nation who would accept
miracles. GLORIA: Mm-hmm. BILLYE: And you know, the Bible
says, as far as Max seeing that Donald Trump was going to be
elected, the Bible says, in John 16, "The Holy Spirit shall show
you things to come." GLORIA: Right. That's right. BILLYE: So
He's showing people things to come. These things are
happening. Now, bless the Lord, I believe this part of the
prophecy, which is on page 2, it says, "Let not your heart be
fearful--" here. GLORIA: Okay. BILLYE: "--for there shall--and
on the scene he's already arisen, one who shall respond
unto the things of God. And whose heart will be open toward
God. And your nation that seems to be cut down to the roots and
the wild birds of the air and the fowls of the air came and
roosted in her branches and did much disrepute unto the nation.
Yet that shall all be repaired--" GLORIA: Mm-hmm.
BILLYE: "--because this man shall say, 'I will walk in the
way of God, I will trust also in Him.'" GLORIA: Yes, amen.
BILLYE: "He shall be at the head. And many shall follow
him." So he's the head of the nation, I believe. GLORIA: Amen.
BILLYE: "And the work of God shall be consummated, that must
be consummated even in other nations before I come." I heard
Him say, God say, 'Because, you see, the enemy shall not gainsay
the work of the Lord.'" GLORIA: That's right. BILLYE: "And like
a trumpet sounding across the valley, I heard His voice, so
strong and clear, and He said, 'I'm not coming for a church,
the Body of Christ, that is weak, emaciated, sickly and
underground. I'm coming for the spiritual giant that's alive and
living and working the works of God!'" So he prophesied there
will be this leader. People will work miracles before the
leaders. And then the church is just going to be this glorious
church. Now, in this same prophecy--and today we're going
to talk about translations. In this same prophecy, Brother
Hagin prophesied that "This shall be even so as it was with
Philip after that he had baptized the eunuch, that he was
caught away and found in another city. And so one shall be in
this city, and television cameras shall be trained upon
him. And reporters will say, 'He's here in Dallas, Texas."
But as fast as you can snap your finger, a television camera in
Los Angeles would pick him up--" GLORIA: Wow. BILLYE: "--and
he'll be there. And some will say, 'How did he do that?' And
it shall be the Spirit of the Lord that shall catch him away."
"I didn't say this is going to happen right now," he prophesied
in 1974. "But these signs and wonders shall become more
prevalent. Signs and wonders have come here and come there.
But they shall be prevalent and more prevalent in the last
days." And then he prophesies about that leader. So connected
with this time, I believe, of our having a new leader, also
these times of a translation. GLORIA: Praise God. BILLYE: Now,
Acts 5:5, Philip was translated. He went down to the city of
Samaria. You can start with "Translations" here. Ladies, I
gave you-- SHELLI: Okay. Thanks. BILLYE: Starting here. So "Acts
8:5, Philip was trans--Philip went down to the city of Samaria
and preached Christ unto them. And the people with one accord
gave heed unto those things which Philip spoke, hearing and
seeing the miracles which he did." He's having a big meeting
down in Samaria. "Unclean spirits, crying with a loud
voice, came out of people." In Verse 8:8, Chapter 8:8 of Acts
says, "There was great joy in that city." "But the Lord caught
him away from that great meeting." GLORIA: Mm. BILLYE:
Verse 26, "And the angel of the Lord spoke unto Philip, saying,
Arise, and go down to the south toward the way that goeth from
Jerusalem to Gaza...so he went: and, behold, he met a man, an
Ethiopian, a eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of
the Ethiopians, who had charge of all her treasure...and he was
sitting in his chariot going back to Ethiopia, reading the
book of Isaiah. And the Spirit of the Lord told, Philip, Go,
and join yourself to that chariot. And so Philip said, Do
you understand what you're reading? And he said, No, I
don't understand it...and so Philip taught him." In Isaiah
53, he taught him that it was Jesus that it was talking about,
that Philip was baptized--I mean Philip baptized the eunuch.
Verse 8:39 on the next page--Chapter 8:39, "When they
were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught
away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his
way rejoicing. He was found in Azotus," which is about 20 to 28
miles away. He was translated like 20 to 28 miles away. Jesus
was--got into a boat once, and it said, immediately, that boat
was on the other side. GLORIA: Yeah, I remember reading that.
BILLYE: So we see, in the Bible, translations. GLORIA: Praise
God. BILLYE: Now we are going to see translations. That's what
the prophecy said. We have seen them. They are in the church.
Shelli is on here because I want her to tell about a couple of
translations. SHELLI: Okay. Which one, Mom? BILLYE: The
first one, we were in Paris, and we were translated together.
SHELLI: Yes. BILLYE: And this one, we knew we were translated.
It was--we were staying in the center of Paris. We were
right--staying right next to the president's house. Our hostess,
Babette-- SHELLI: Yes. BILLYE: Philippe and Babette had a
lovely apartment there for us, and a hotel. And so then we had
to get out to the airport which is 50 miles from downtown. And
they had a transportation strike. So when a-- GLORIA:
Paris is bad already. BILLYE: Oh, and when they had a
transportation strike, everybody drove. And when they drove, it's
just a bollygon. That's an--that's a word in Hebrew.
Butch can tell you. A bollygon, hardly anybody moves, they all
come in--they all come in and they honk their horns, and
there's no taxi, and there's--but we had already
arranged for a taxi to take us to the airport. He called us
from the airport, and he said, "I don't think you're going to
make your flight because I have got to come from the airport
down to get you. It's 50 miles." I said, "Well, come on." So he
got there. We loaded our stuff in his car, and we started back
to the airport, and what did it look like to you, Shelli, as we
were in that taxi? SHELLI: Well, it looked like clear sailing,
almost like the Red Sea being parted. And even our taxi
driver, who was not really religious-- BILLYE: Oh, no, not
at all. SHELLI: --at all, he said, "This is a miracle!"
BILLYE: "This is a miracle!" SHELLI: And he kept saying,
"Ladies, look at this. Watch this!" BILLYE: And on the other
side of the road, the traffic was all, "Honk, honk, honk,
honk." But we, seemingly were moving in a string of traffic
just fine, and there was plenty of space in front of us and
plenty of space behind us. GLORIA: That's awesome. BILLYE:
And next thing you know, we were at the airport. It didn't take
us as much time to get to the airport as it normally did. We
were translated. He was overcome. He said, "This is a
miracle! This is a miracle!" SHELLI: Yes. BILLYE: And he got
out and got all of our bags and took us to the plane. So we got
translated, and we knew it. But sometimes you get translated,
and you don't know it. And I want you to tell about that
time-- SHELLI: Okay. BILLYE: --that happened with you.
SHELLI: Well, at the time, I was 27 years old, and a wife and
mother of two little children. And I had been used to traveling
for the Lord, and now the kids are coming, and there's laundry
and cooking and not so much traveling for God. And I
was--had this little thought, "Oh--" and I realized now it was
the enemy. "You're not praying for people enough." And so--
BILLYE: Preaching enough. SHELLI: Preaching enough. And
"Look what you're doing. You're taking care of these kids." And,
of course, that's the highest thing to do, being a mother, and
training them to be--to know God. But anyway, the enemy. And
so one night, I just laid my head on the pillow, and I said,
"Lord, use me for your glory." And the next thing you know, I'm
in this home. And every detail, I saw the man of the home, he
was shoveling ashes out of a blond brick fireplace. I saw his
wife on the couch and her sister. I saw them make a cup
of--a pot of coffee, actually. Open concept with the bar, and
then they're enjoying their coffee. And I'm thinking, "This
is not strange." And all of a sudden, I saw Jesus, and I said,
"Lord, what do you want me to do? Why am I here?" And he said,
"Pray." And so I just laid my hands out like this. They
couldn't see me. And I just began to pray in other tongues.
And then after a while, it was over. So I told my husband the
next morning, and of course, now he's in heaven. But we made a
vow to each other that we would never tell a soul what happened
because he didn't want people to think I was crazy. BILLYE: I can
understand. SHELLI: And you can understand that. So now he's in
heaven, I can tell. So this is what happened. A few months
later, we are in a Camp Meeting, several thousand people. BILLYE:
Brother Hagin's. SHELLI: Brother Hagin's Camp Meeting in Tulsa.
And I have my baby. He's about nine months old, Cody, and had
Kylie by the hand. And we're trying to find a place to sit.
My husband had--trying to park the car. And all of a sudden,
all these people trying to get a good spot, and someone pushes me
from behind and I almost fall. And I'm thinking, "Well, someone
full of the devil. I'm going to have to cast the devil out." So
I'm turning around to say, "In the name of Jesus, come out!"
But instead, I see this man who was cleaning his fireplace,
whose home I had been in in the Spirit. And he said, "Ma'am, who
are you? My wife and I have been watching you get up and down
with the baby, and our hearts burn. We sense that we know you.
Have you ever been to Alabama?" GLORIA: Mm. SHELLI: Well, the
funny thing is, I told my husband when it happened I knew
I was in the state of Alabama. That's all I knew. And he said,
"Well, we're praying for you. And be blessed." So it happened.
And then a few months later, after that is when the Lord
launched the ministry in Alabama. And, Mom, you may not
know this, but this ring I'm wearing was given by Sister
Lynne Hammond. And it's the first time I really met her, and
she began to pray, and we--and it was right when our dad--my
dad, your husband, went to be with the Lord. But by the Holy
Spirit, he began to show us things and prepared our heart.
So Alabama's always had a special place. But the thing
that I take away from this was, God can use us even beyond our
limitations. GLORIA: Sure. SHELLI: You know, we are of a
spirit, created in His image. GLORIA: We're pretty much always
beyond limitations, aren't we? SHELLI: Absolutely, yes. You
said it, girl. BILLYE: So those people somehow sensed you were
there. SHELLI: They did. BILLYE: And you recognized them. But
something in the Spirit told them that you were there.
SHELLI: Yes. BILLYE: Now, Gloria, there was a lady came
out to Prayer Mountain, I don't know, been a year or so ago. And
she said, "I had to come and tell you this." She said, "I was
in the hospital." I think she said stage four cancer. "And
there was no hope for me." And she said, "You--I came to thank
you because you and Gloria came to pray for me." GLORIA: Oh,
Billye. BILLYE: And she said, "You walked up to my bed--" She
knew it was a translation later on. "You walked up to my bed,
you laid hands on me, and you prayed." And she said, "I began
to get better from that hour." Now, Gloria, I remember that you
used to do, regularly, what Shelli did that night when she
said, "Lord--" SHELLI: Yeah, "Just use me," you know? "Take
me. Take my life, do something with it." GLORIA: Yeah. BILLYE:
You used to pray, "Lord, if you want to use me anywhere in the
world tonight--" GLORIA: Yeah. I did. Mm-hmm. BILLYE: "--use me."
So I figure it was one of those nights-- GLORIA: I'm going to
start praying that again, Shelli. SHELLI: Yes, yes.
BILLYE: I think I shall start paying that again, too. It was
one of those nights, I believe, that you were--you and I were
translated to her. And she literally came by Prayer
Mountain to thank me. GLORIA: Praise God. BILLYE: Even though
we did not know that God was using us in this way. GLORIA:
Isn't that something? BILLYE: So I believe that God can use you
in that way. You know, your spirit being can be-- GLORIA:
Yeah. BILLYE: --translated even without your body. Our bodies
were translated in Paris. SHELLI: Mm-hmm. BILLYE: But her
spirit was translated to Alabama. And another instance of
this happening--now, tomorrow we're going to talk more about
translations. But Brother Kenneth E. Hagin--you know, I
worked for him for several years. And this woman and her
husband--her brother was an adult, but he was sick because
he had had a lifetime of alcoholism. And he lived in a
little house close by their house. And she came to Camp
Meeting, Kenneth E. Hagin's Camp Meeting. And she got a prayer
cloth, and she took it home, and she pinned it to her brother's
pajamas without his knowing. Wasn't long after that till he
was delivered and completely set free. GLORIA: Praise God.
SHELLI: Glory to God. BILLYE: And she gave him--I know this
because I worked for Kenneth Hagin and I saw the letter. So
after he completely got set free, she started giving him
good books to read. And she gave him Kenneth Hagin books. And
Brother Hagin's books are on the back of it--his picture is on
the back of it. And he said, to his sister, "That's the man that
came and cast the devil out of me." SHELLI: Wow. GLORIA: Oh,
awesome. BILLYE: With that--remember that Paul said,
"When these cloths are taken--" SHELLI: Yes. BILLYE: "--they
will drive the devils?" GLORIA: Yeah. SHELLI: Mm-hmm. BILLYE:
And--but he saw. He saw that man come. He saw Kenneth Hagin come.
Now, I asked Brother Hagin, "Did you realize--" I wanted to know.
I worked for him. I said, "Did you know that you did this?"
"No." He didn't know it. This is not--this is being used by God.
And we're going to talk some more about the singing and David
Ingles and that tomorrow. SHELLI: Yes. And also Pavo.
BILLYE: And Pavo. But we'll talk about that tomorrow. But these
translations are going to happen. GLORIA: Praise God.
BILLYE: Some you know about, some you know--don't know about.
But this is the supernatural church, and it's even upon us
right now. GLORIA: And they definitely have examples of it
in the Scripture. BILLYE: It's in the Word. GLORIA: Yes.
SHELLI: It's in the Word. GLORIA: Yeah. Are they telling
us we're out of time? We'll be right back.
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