WATCH: Tucker Carlson DEMOLISH Creepy Lawyer Michael Avenatti In EPIC Interview
you may recognize this man he's a lawyer
he represents the porn actress stormy
Daniels in her lawsuits against the
president and Michael Cohen but in the
last six months he has become famous in
his own right he's now one of the most
consistent fixers on cable news in this
country he's appeared on CNN and MSNBC
literally hundreds of times but he's
moving beyond being a mere television
celebrities now talking about running
for office for president he's released
his positions on major issues he's
traveled to Iowa and New Hampshire and
Michigan and Ohio he seems serious about
it we've invited on the show many times
to talk about his plans but he's always
declined until tonight he's now agreed
to appear on her set provided me give
him time to state his case and of course
happy to do that in the past he's also
demanded that we stop referring to him
by a certain unflattering nickname we
haven't agreed to that demand but
tonight is a gesture of goodwill we will
not use that nickname because we're
always grateful when guests are brave
enough to show up in person including in
this case and he joins us now thanks a
lot for coming up so I mean we could sit
and hurl insults at each other for the
segment already done that I've certainly
insulted you you've insulted me but you
seem smart so let me take you seriously
as someone who wants to be involved in
the public conversation and ask you
about things that you have said on
questions of policy to flush them out a
little bit
so this is you at a rally in July I
think it was a day after the president
spoke with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki
and you were addressing a rally and
here's what you said watch what Vladimir
Putin and Russia into this country in
connection with the 2016 election is no
different than if they would have placed
a hundred thousand troops on our border
this was an invasion it was an
electronic invasion to elect this
president so if I had a hundred thousand
troops on our border I mean that would
be an active war a profound provocation
what would be the rational response to
that if you really felt the threat was
that profound if you were president how
would you respond to that well Tucker I
understood that I was coming on your
show tonight to talk about the case
involving my client why I didn't I
didn't tell you that and I'm here to
talk about the case country you gotta
stop you gotta stop interrupting me okay
because one of the conditions of me
coming on tonight was that you were not
going to do what you do routinely to
guess which is talk over them and
interrupt them so just let me finish
with my answer okay let me finish with
my I said I'll give you a fair interview
I just I actually don't have an interest
in squabbling with you at all Orca
name-calling
I've done a lot of that to you and not
to me no but not to my face I could but
what's the point I want to take you
seriously I'm serious okay so I just
played a clip of what you said any rally
you're traveling to States because you
want to influence policy direction I
don't think it's unfair to ask you about
something that you said what's the
question and the question let me restate
it is you said that Russia has done
something that is equivalent to putting
a hundred thousand troops on our border
that's an act of war
correct and I wonder two things one what
you would do as president if that
happened on your watch and two what do
you think Russia things watching public
figures like you say that we're at war
with Russia what effect do you think
that has well first of all there's no
question that Russia interfered with the
2016 election in a very serious way the
only question is what was the
involvement in Donald Trump or by Donald
Trump and his cronies in the process and
that's what Bob Muller's in the process
of getting to the bottom of but now it's
a country where you go interrupted me
again so how should we respond as I said
three times we should respond with the
absolute force of the law we should be
doing everything in our power to bring
those individuals to justice those
individuals that are also in Russia and
let me tell you what we should not be
doing we should not be standing shoulder
to shoulder with Vladimir Putin and
choosing Russia over the hard-working
men and women of the intelligence
community
that risk their lives for this country
sir president has sold out the United
States who announced today a new round
of even tougher sanctions against Russia
do you support that I think it's a start
but I don't think it's what would be I
don't think it's a step in the right
direction I don't think the president
has shown any leadership relief
sanctions are not a step in the right
direction though I said it's a step but
it's not enough I believe that President
Trump should demand the extradition of
each and every individual in Russia that
Bob Muller and others believe were
responsible for the election of Medellin
in 2006 I mean if you really believe
that it's the same as a hundred thousand
what I'm saying is you're using reckless
rhetoric on a subject you don't really
understand that increases the
temperature between the United States
and nuclear-armed adversary is that a
responsible thing to do I think under
the circumstances I stand by my words
and I think for you to land it's a
hundred-thousand thing I think for you
to lecture me about reckless rhetoric is
rather ironic Tucker in light of some of
the reckless rhetoric that you need
gauge in each and every day on the
reckless rhetoric okay so um you've said
that you are a civil libertarian in
effect you're a libertarian on sex
questions and that that's fine with me
does it bother you that the Obama
administration authorized spying on
American citizens connected to a rival
presidential campaign well first of all
I don't think it's been established that
that occurred number the Carter page was
spied on I I don't believe that that's
been established number one that in fact
President Obama authorized his
administration are you gonna interrupt
me for the entire say I'm there just
clarifying cuz I don't think you
understand the question no idea bomb
administration authorized spying an
American citizen connected to the Trump
campaign does that bother you at all
first of all I don't think that's been
established if it was established of
course it would bother me are we gonna
get to the facts of my clients case
don't question first because you're
traveling around the country go ahead as
a commentator on politics and I'm
interested to know what you think I
don't think that's a legitimate so it
has not been established that Carter
page was spied on is that
is that what you're saying how many
times are you gonna ask me the same
question I've already stated that in my
view I don't believe that President
Obama has been shown to have authorized
the spying quote-unquote Obama
administration why dodge the question if
you traveled here with policy advisors
who have worked on other campaigns to
the show ready for a somebody question I
didn't I didn't travel here with policy
advisors can I ask you let me ask you a
question I don't think why is it why is
it that you don't call Donald Trump the
creepy porn president he's the one that
had sex with a four month old son at
home case with my client now without a
condom okay so but you don't want to
acknowledge that you don't want to
acknowledge that acknowledge it okay do
you believe that he had such I've said
that okay so the American people and
you're okay if the president lives
settle down let me finish my question to
you what is the crime the harm the
injury to your client by Donald Trump as
far as I understand this was a
consensual sexual relationship and yes I
believe it occurred I don't know that
but it seems like it did I'm willing to
believe that it did but it seemed
consensual and then she was paid at the
end of it and yet you and by the way I'm
not attacking stormy deals I feel sorry
for I feel she's being exploited you
backed her for six months I feel that
you and others are exploiting her so I
feel bad for her but I'm wondering at
the inside they do demean her repeatedly
and I really I think you're a hypocrite
I want to talk about the case I'm asking
you the core question sure in the case
what is the injury to store McDaniels
the injury is is that the agreement that
was entered into was not adhered to by
Michael Cohen and Donald Trump they did
not fulfill their end of the bargain now
do you want to talk to the about the
injury to the American people sure why
you believe no but you just you just
went off in this moral lecture about how
it was wrong for the president to have
an adulterous affair and I would agree
with that but you're very outraged
so was your yes you said it's an injury
against the American people that he had
sex with someone he's white finish the
injury is that he and Michael Cohen and
others lied to the american peace
and covered up the hundred and thirty
thousand dollar payment and violated
campaign finance law that's why Michael
Cohen I'm not done that's why Michael
Collins just like little TSP why Michael
Cohen may have a guilt I understand them
I've been following the news as well
okay did Donald Trump have a moral
obligation to tell the American people
that he had a sexual relationship with
stormy Danny I don't care whether you
had a moral obligation and not an
obligation no what do you had an
obligation to do was not cover that
cover it up and lie about it and commit
campaign finance violations and so's
right handy Michael Cohen just pled
guilty to the felony Tucker what do you
to campaign finance violations
associated with with miss mcdougal and I
thought you were following the protector
of stormy Daniels stormy Daniels is
right now working in strip clubs and
little towns on stage people are
throwing things at her you're wearing a
thousand-dollar suit why is you why are
you not paying her you've profited from
stormy Daniels
you've done tens of millions of dollars
with the free media on the basis of your
relationship with her and she's working
in strip clubs you're exploiting her and
you know that why aren't you paying her
some of what you're making sir this is
absurd no you don't know the facts as
evidenced by the fact is she's working
in strip clubs are you gonna continue to
interrupt me you know I do know the
facts actually no you don't because you
just demonstrated your ignorance because
you didn't even know Michael Cohen pled
to two felonies associated with a can
finally leave that what Cohen did and
I'm not defending Cohen I never have was
a campaign finance fallacious dirt I
think it's absurd he pled guilty to two
felonies so everyone who pleads look
this is a we have an honest district I
don't think it was a campaign finance
violation
stormy Daniels was to perform in
Richmond in a depressing strip club this
hero that you say you're protecting your
her protector why is she working in
seedy strip clubs while you're on
television wearing expensive suits why
not exploiting her why is she doing that
because she wants to Tucker and she's on
staff this is America this is America
and guess what if a woman wants to
perform in a strip club she does so it's
even getting rich even though people are
not getting rich even though people like
her even though people like you demean
her to me
you're the one that we're first or
consistently is a pornstar and as to me
is a creepy porn lawyer and meanwhile
you give the president meanwhile you
give the president a pass I would you
had unprotected sex with the porn star
with a four month old son at home well
you are a moralizer for a guy who no you
do know you are a little moralizer
you're like we're in church now with a
four month old son okay I'm I'm
officially shocked by Donald Trump's
behavior I had no idea it blew my mind
but answer my question why are you rich
and your client is working in seedy
strip clubs sir do you have any idea how
much money ever you're on every cable
show you're running for president now
I've no idea I know that you haven't
paid your taxes because you've got over
$1 with ridiculous you don't even it's
not that I'm just saying how do you have
a show and you're this ignorant huh
here's what I know for a fact is that
your client is not thriving and for you
to look at me in the eye and say she
wants to perform in strip clubs with
people throwing stuff at her is
insulting to her people don't do that
unless they have no choice sport and she
just likes it is that what you're saying
Tucker now you're the defender of my
client you don't know anything about
your explainer you don't know anything
about my client exploited I know that
she's working in a stripper finish can I
finish please do all right
I've done a remarkable job for my client
and she'll be the first one to tell you
that and had you listened to any of her
interviews or seen any of her comments
you would know exactly what she thinks
of me I am not I'm not done I am not
exploiting my client I'm representing my
client to the absolute so and pretend to
be a hooker from CNN to get through to
you you know that's that's that's
disgusting why don't you shit's
disgusting is why don't you drive a
Tamiya client and me and stop calling us
a porn star and a creepy porn lawyer if
you've got that big applaud do you have
that bigger problem looking fun of
insulins the last time you saw porn oh
you busted me actually maybe humiliation
porn that's why I watch you on CNN no
but
realize what horn you're dodging with
the question that I have asked you do
you believe that people that view porn
should watch your show I'm not even sure
what that question means but I will say
this sincerely that I have never
attacked stormy Dan yes you have for pi
think you are exploiting her as I've
said five times and you haven't answered
the question which is why is it that her
life has stalled and your life has
you're planning a new career as a
politician and like so many lawyers you
are taking advantage of her and you pose
as a feminist hero because you are
shameless and the other channels let you
get away with it but you're an exploiter
of a woman and you should be ashamed of
it and your that is my and your that is
are you gonna let me figure you'll
respond I get your time hypocrite more
time your I promise to what you're
talking it's nice to see you yet again
thank you god bless you and God bless
america
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