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[N = Nucksal / D = Don Mills / P = Penomeco]
N: I know him.
D: Is that so?
N: In the past, with someone called Jinsol...
D: Ah...
N: There was someone like that. Jinsol was tall, and he was sickly...
N: He was sickly. You know him, right? Jinsol.
D: I know him.
N: Jinsol, how are you lately? Whenever we talk on the phone, you're always not in good shape.
N: Don't know how you're doing lately, Jinsol.
N: I didn't have to contact Jinsol for this,
N: Through a featuring on Jinsol's song in the past, I got to know our first guest on the show for today.
D: But it writes... Peno- Penopeco over here?
N: Wow seriously, today's mistake is too serious, no?
D: You guys are too much.
N: We have brought Penomeco here to chat with us!
N: We have Penomeco, who's youthful looking and has a youthful hairstyle.
D: Nice to meet you.
P: Hello.
P: Hello...
N: Please greet our listeners.
P: Yep. Hello, I'm Penomeco.
P: And I'm here on HIPHOPPLAYA RADIO.
N: So you're an awkward one, yes?
N: Let's kick this off slowly [?]
D: Firstly, the Korean Hip Hop Awards, KHA NEXT with MILK.
D: The next generation with MILK, they mentioned rookies.
D: Please tell us how you feel about getting selected.
P: Um, firstly.
P: Now that 'rookie' is placed next to my name,
P: I feel happy, of course.
P: I think those who currently do hip-hop or aspire to do hip-hop would feel the same.
N: So you feel really happy to have been selected as a rookie.
P: Yeah, definitely. I feel like I have recognition.
N: I think that the ones chosen are really good at what they do.
P: Oh, yeah. I heard about the others, and I know who they are.
N: That's great.
N: Being chosen... But you're not receiving a prize. Is that not important?
All: Everything's good in any way.
D: You're happy.
P: Yep.
N: Do you think there's a reason why you were chosen for the KHA NEXT mention? If so, what reasons?
P: Even so, somehow, I guess they listened to my music and they felt that something was charming. That was probably how I got chosen.
N: Could it be your lip ring that gave you extra points?
P: Perhaps, for my individuality...
N: You know, just now we were having a smoke break and we were chatting...
N: Yukgaejang getting tangled and stuff... It was lively.
N: Personally (curious), how long have you had this hairstyle?
P: For about a year?
N: That time I went to your studio, your hair was like that?
P: It was different that time...
P: I'm pretty early with catching on with trends and stuff.
P: That time Zico did 'Boys and Girls', our hairstyles were very similar.
P: Zico knew it too.
P: I did it first... But it just seemed like we did it at the same time.
N: So you're saying that you did it first.
P: No I mean like... That's true, but people were like "you just copied Zico..."
N: Jealousy? Hey, that happened a while ago...
P: That's true.
P: And that time my hair wasn't like that...
N: With this hair and wearing like, a cap or beanie, won't it smell?
P: Ah...... As long as you take care of it well.
P: That's not really important.
N: Okay.
D: Your rapper name is pretty special, is there a hidden meaning behind it?
D: Please tell us the background this nickname.
P: Firstly, for "Peno".
I studied in Japan when I was younger.
It kinda means "to hold a pen".
D: Peno.
P: Yep. And for "meco" -
P: My older sister told me never to forget I'm Korean even though we were staying in Japan.
P: It means "made in Korea."
D: So short for "made in Korea" becomes "meco". Penomeco.
N: You put so much meaning into your rapper name...
N: Don Mills is just how he's called in his neighbourhood,
N: and I'm just Nucksal.
P: Back then, I was in middle school and high school
P: and it was a time where I just needed to put those meanings in.
N: And I thought it was influenced by Mexico...
N: Like El Dorado...
N: Moving on.
N: After your debut single 'Right Here' in 2014, you featured in Zico's "말해 Yes or No'-
P: It's 'Right There'.
N: Ah, 'Right There'.
N: Wow, seriously! This is such a big mistake, no? You guys are too much!
N: I'm sorry.
P: You guys really pay attention to that, eh?
N: So 'Right There'...
N: 'Right There'. You speak well.
N: Sorry about just now.
P: It's okay.
N: You caught the listeners' attention with your participation in Zico's '말해 Yes or No'?
P: That's true.
N: We heard that you've been friends with Zico for 10 years. Tell us how you guys met.
P: Ah, that.
P: Firstly, I met Zico when I was studying in Japan.
P: We were middle school students.
P: We went to the same middle school, high school, and even university.
P: Somehow that happened.
P: When I met him, we were in middle school...
P: I first started to write lyrics in my second year of middle school.
P: I was writing lyrics in school and he saw me do that.
P: Zico was like, "what are you doing?"
P: And I was like "I'm just writing lyrics."
P: Zico went "oh, you like hip hop?"
P: That time, there were no other friends who were interested in hip hop other than the two of us.
P: I went "yeah, I like hop hop"
P: Then it was just "shall we get to know each other better?"
P: We'd listen to music together.
P: And we have come to today.
N: To have known each other for 10 years, he's a really long-time friend of yours.
D: Yeah, he's a long-time friend.
D: And with that, you guys even successfully formed the crew Fanxy Child.
D: Could you tell us more about the background of how you guys got together, and
D: what kind of crew it is.
N: Wow the members... They're definitely not just average members.
P: That's right.
N: Tell us more about that too.
P: Well, firstly...
P: Zico asked me, how would it be if we formed a crew.
P: A few days later, he suddenly introduced me to Dean.
N: You guys are the same age, right?
P: Yeah, with (Zico,) Crush and Dean.
P: So Zico was like "hey he's amazing, he's really good"
P: At that time, Dean hasn't debuted yet. It was before he released 'I'm Not Sorry'.
P: So I was like, "oh, is that so?" and I took a listen and he was really, really good.
P: We decided it would be nice if the three of us could just chat.
P: So we formed a group chat and just chat with each other.
P: It was originally the three of us but as time went by, more people were added to the group chat one by one.
P: With that, Fanxy Child seems to be complete.
P: Well, we were not formed because we have a goal to achieve,
P: We are kind of like friends who stay in the same neighbourhood that formed a group chat just to joke around with each other.
D: A group chat for play- Oh...
P: Yes, for playing around.
P: So. Of course we chat about music,
P: it's more for playing..
N: For friendship first.
P: Yeah, it was for friendship.
P: And then Zico's like, "hey guys we need a crew name."
P: But then we were just like, to make or not to make one, ah fuck it don't know anymore... Just saying what comes to mind.
P: With that... The name 'Fanxy Child' has been around for over a year.
N: I see.
N: Then, before you guys decided on your crew name, I guess you guys have known each other for quite some time already?
P: Yeah, that's pretty much it. Before then name 'Fanxy Child' existed.
N: But the members... They're very powerful members, no?
N: So do you guys any have plans on what you will do next?
P: Well... Generally speaking we don't have concrete plans at all.
P: But saying so, there's still a meaning to why we formed the crew.
P: So I'd say that we are definitely going forward slowly,
P: like working on our own things.
N: Okay, so you guys are doing stuff.
N: But your crew members, some of them are part of the crew Club Eskimo.
N: Crush, Dean, and Millic.
N: How's it like between the two crews?
N: Do you get along well with Club Eskimo?
P: Yes, that's right. It's because...
P: No matter what, whenever there's a schedule, we will be together in the same waiting room.
P: There's friends from Club Eskimo as well as us... We are all gathered together.
P: I'm also pretty close to Punchnello.
N: Oh, I've seen him at a concert (same lineup).
D: Mm. Punchnello.
N: Sorry to say something like that, but
N: you guys sound more like second cousins.
D: Oh... That kind of saying...
N: I'm trying to say that you guys are similar in many ways.
N: I think it's great.
D: That means...
D&N: You're talking about "basketball is played not with your height, but with your heart"?
N: This is how we are.
N: This is EXACTLY how we are.
P: Ah yeah, I've seen that a few times.
N: How many (episodes) did you watch?
P: I've watched many of the funny ones.
P: That time with Legit Goons...
P: Before drinking, hyung would go like,
P: "I heard your album is doing well..." etc.
P: And once you drink,
P: you start to scold them...!
N: It's something I need to do.
P: That was really funny.
N: Well... Just drink.
N: Let's move on.
D: Yeah, let's do that. Now...
N: What... This name over here...!
D: Penomeco was in a crew, XVOI, with Seo Samuel.
D: You guys were in a crew that had a name that's reminiscent of Roman numerals...
D: But it seems like you guys aren't even in contact any more?
P: Ah......
P: Well. Um... Firstly... What should I say.
N: Aren't you guys practically no longer in contact?
P: While that may be true,
P: we weren't like "let's break up!" and stuff.
P: We are all too busy on our own.
P: Firstly, Seo Samuel hyung is extremely busy.
P: At that time, he was busy with his album.
P: This hyung had a weakened mentality at that time.
P: At that time, as well as right now,
P: of course it would be great if we could gather as a crew and cheer on each other even more.
P: But all of us are really just busy in our own ways.
P: Which means that we all naturally get kind of distant from each other.
N: I know that XVOI has a hideout.
N: It's at Hyundai Apartment... Right?
P: Um. No?
N: Omokgyo!
N: In the basement of the apartment, there's a studio.
N: And there was always this knocking sound.
N: Since you guys raised a cat there.
N: And if you listen closely to the acapella, you can hear the cat scratching.
N: That was recorded in a hurry.
D: People won't be able to tell if it's an instrument or a cat scratching...
N: I said this just now, but please... Not too much.
P: I still go there.
N: Ah right! I filmed the 'RHYD YO' MV there.
D: That's right.
P: Everyone is doing okay, right? Even if it just means not gathering together again.
P: No, no. I think that some members have distanced away from us.
P: We would contact often to meet up, but we can't meet up as easily as in the past.
N: It used to be pretty lively there, no?
P: But still, those who were always there are still always there now.
N: It's nice there. There's even a bed there... That studio.
D: Do you guys pay monthly rent for that space?
P: Yep, with a contract.
P: It's pretty wide.
N: It's really wide. It's so interesting that in the carpark of an apartment there's a door that leads to a studio.
P: The door is pretty small, so no one can even expect a studio to be there. It's pretty secretive.
D: I heard from Nucksal hyung another time, something about the low ceiling... That's not it?
P: It looks like this; sloped.
P: It's wide here but the other side is... yeah.
N: In that 'RHYD YO' MV the weird thing is that there's another space inside that studio.
P: Yep, there's another space in there.
D: That's pretty fascinating.
[lol sorry guys i have no idea what they are talking about here, anyway it's not important/related to peno]
N: Let's move on.
N: We know that you're currently under the music label, Million Market, with Suran and Woo Tae Woon.
N: How did that come to be?
P: Well... Um...
P: Firstly, Taewoon hyung is Zico's older brother.
P: So, I mean... We knew each other since we were students, like when we were teenagers.
N: Ah, you knew each other already.
P: Yep.
P: So one time I went to visit Taewoon hyung,
P: And well... That time...
P: I think that was the start.
P: We were chatting about music,
P: and as we did that...
P: He asked "since you're releasing songs too, isn't it kind of tough to be an independent artist?"
P: And he said "you'll get to release an album."
N: Since this is how you got acquainted with Woo Tae Woon,
N: and you're acquainted with Zico,
N: plus Zico and Woo Taewoon are siblings.
P: Yeah, that's how it happened.
N: Okay.
N: Next...
D: On 1 March, you released your maxi single...
D: FILM... (in Korean spelling it is spelt pil-leum)
D: It should be pronounced like 'film' with 'F' but...
D: You released FILM.
D: The response was pretty good.
D: Can you tell how you feel? A little touched?
P: Firstly, um.
P: I had no idea that the reaction would be that good.
P: The reactions are much better than I had expected.
P: Listeners are enjoying it.
P: Rather than that...
P: The artists around me, or else the industry people, they all view my album positively.
P: There were a number of contents done (for the promo?)
P: So I think I could extend it to various activities.
P: So I'm really happy about it.
P: That's that, and I...
P: It's not that I wasn't working really hard. Rather, I went through a lot of hardship making the three songs.
P: So putting all of that into view,
P: as much as I expected...
P: Wait, not that.
P: I just think everything exceeded my expectations.
N: I...
N: So I only listened to one song in the album.
N: It's so new.
N: It's really the new generation of rap.
D: That's probably because he's also part of the new generation... His age, you know. [He tried to make a obvious/lame remark]
N: If you have nothing better to say then please don't say it!
D: So, um...
D: Our Penomeco's new mixi single...
N: Mixi? Really?
D: It was written as mixi single here...
D: So, maxi single...
N: Yeah, yeah.
D: Let me do it again.
D: Let's listen to one of the songs on Penomeco's new maxi single album FILM,
D: which is titled 'What The Fuck'.
N: Hey, it's not 'What the Fuck'!
N: This stands for something else. What was it?
P: It's 'Went Too Far'.
N: It's 'Went Too Far'...
P: But it does make a reference to that meaning.
N: But still, "what the fuck"... Really...
D: I mean, "what the fuck" is...
D: Whether it's poop or bean paste, try making some for yourself to eat, okay? [Saying that Nucksal knows nothing]
D: Questions... What I prepared... I will ask this.
N: Okay...
N: ???
D: I wanted to make it fun...
N: Fine...
D: I heard there's a reason for why you named your three songs with 3 letters each.
D: So 'SMT' stands for 'Show Me The money',
D: 'WTF' for 'What The Fuck',
D: and 'PNM'... '??? and Mark' [imagine it yourselves]
D: I'm curious about the reasoning behind that.
P: The reason is... Firstly, well.
P: Um, to be honest,
P: I felt that the song titles needed to be pretty good.
P: So I thought of just using 3 letters for each song to match each other.
N: And you have three songs in your album.
P: Doing that was also to relate it to the concept.
P: And I was given the green light. No matter how I see it, it's seems like a concept marketing thing.
N: 'SMT' kind of reminds me of 'SM TOWN', no...?
D: If you have nothing that you want to say, please don't say it.
N: I'm sorry. I was too much, right?
D: You knew that and you still did it?
N: Okay-seub- Wow I was going to say 'okay-seubnida."
D: 'SMT' doesn't actually means for 'Show Me The money'.
N: It's 'So Many Times'.
D: So it's 'So Many Times'.
N: And 'WTF'...?
D: It's not 'What The Fuck' but 'Went Too Far'.
N: And 'PNM' is 'Plus and Minus'.
N: But 'PNM' is... Don't you think that it feels a bit forced?
P: No, no no no no...
N: Like, the theme is a bit...
N: Even my nephew can read it! Like this is which character and that is what!
P: The 'and' is written as 'N' here.
N: Okay.
D: I also did this for my album.
N: What is it?
D: 'Everyday Life' was written as 'EDL'.
N: It's an illness for those who do hip hop.
N: If it's not abbreviated, you can't stand it... As we know about abbreviations.
D: It's a sickness. We caught it.
N: So, showing your trendy style, you're doing both rap and singing?
N: Were you going for this style,
N: or you decided and created it as you produced?
P: Um... Well... To be specific...
P: If you listen to the first single ('Right There') I ever released, you'll know.
P: Most of it is... You know...
P: Oh, also including the song that I released with hyung in the past ('Say I'm Right')
P: I worked on those songs like were no bounds between how much singing and rapping I could do.
P: And finally...
P: Lately, there's no such big border between hip hop and R&B.
P: The timing is right,
P: I've done all of that before and I thought that I was able to do more.
P: So at that time, I was working on my music while worrying that people might go "what's with him?" if I did sang too.
P: Now, I don't feel that way anymore, like the feeling of having to let go of stuff.
P: Now, I think it's like I'm doing as much as I want.
N: So as your heart wishes?
P: Yep.
N: As you please?
P: Yeah.
N: As you heart wishes.
P: Right.
N: 'Dirtily'?
N: Feels like that.
N: Don Mills, you like the songs a lot, right?
D: Ah yes, that's right. I...
N: Anyway, that song by G2... How does it go...?
D: Ah, that?
D: "If I get the money..."
D: "I'm gon' get this shit..."
[The lyrics are wrong btw]
N: Okay, okay!
D: G2 has a song called 'Bread' and I like the hook, so...
N: Alright.
P: "Didn't think I'd get this popular~"
N: He likes the song, it makes you excited.
N: "What should I eat today~" that kind of stuff.
D: When did I ever say that?
N: I guess you didn't.
N: Shall we move on?
D: Yep.
D: Participating in song composition and arrangement, Made By Me...
P: Ah, about that.
D: Can you tell us who he is?
P: Firstly, he's someone residing in Korea.
P: But he wasn't already doing big stuff, projects.
P: When I decided I wanted to make songs, I contacted him first.
P: Somehow I managed to.
P: Because this hyung doesn't even have SoundCloud.
P: And I'm one year younger than him.
P: He also said so that he hates it if people get to know him more.
P: He's a hyung who just works on music.
P: And he also has songs selling well overseas.
P: So...
N: Independently?
P: Yeah, he's doing this independently.
P: And anyway.... I think that the two of us go well together.
P: From our tastes to our personalities.
P: He takes me along...
P: But yeah, I just expressed a lot that I want to keep working with this hyung.
P: So right now, in terms of song composition he's writing songs for me,
P: I think we'll be working on many things together in future.
N: The English text is wrong, right? Made By 'Me'?
P: It's just 'Made By Me'.
N: What a fresh name.
D: A fresh feeling right from his name.
N: There's an old song called 'Stand By Me'.
D: Do you know 'Step By Step'?
N: Forget it...
D: "Stand by me~"
D: Why don't you know this song?
N: I know it, I know it. I think we must be really old...
N: It seems like you'll have activities on a regular basis with your single album released...
N: Do you have any plans coming up, such a performance schedules?
D: Concerts...
N: Please promote something.
P: Ah... Oh.........
P: Regarding the activities I'm planning to do...
P: I see today's HIPHOPPLAYA RADIO as a starting point, to take a break and keep working on something else...
N: Right away?
P: Yeah, I'm thinking of doing more stuff.
D: You're going to recharge before jumping into work or...
P: No, right away.
D: Oh, right away.
N: He said that just moments ago!
D: It wasn't expressed correctly.
D: Not the right way.
N: Gotta go back to the factory...
P: Yeah, so I'll start to work on new stuff,
P: because there's so much I want to do.
P: Though it's not very organised.
P: So like what I said earlier,
P: I'll keep doing what I want to do.
D: As your heart wishes, as you please.
P: Yep, as I wish.
N: Great.
N: How about any concerts or performances?
P: Performing... Right now... I am interested in performing.
P: So, sometimes... Well.
P: I was planning to just perform when Fanxy (Child) is going to perform together.
P: I definitely won't leave out the chance to perform then.
N: You're also going to schedule performances yourself?
P: Yeah. On my own, firstly...
P: I have a bigger greed to make more.
N: Because you don't have many songs released yet, so...
P: I want to fill it up (with more songs).
N: Okay.
P: I'm going to keep doing.
N, D: So... There's a question like that.
D: There's... Um...
D: There's a radio show.
P: You're on that show.
D: Uhuh.
D: We were talking about Show Me The Money.
N: Hanhae said that.
D: Do you have any interest in participating?
D, N: Your song 'SMT'... And 'Show Me The Money' or 'Show Me The Times'
D: Or, what... 'Show Me That Time' or is it 'money'... What is it...
D: Kinda sounds like it.
N: So, are you considering it?
P: I keep thinking about it, even right now to be honest.
P: I don't think there's anything else I can do but worry for now.
P: Anyway, in this competition setting there's no problem with just doing the music you want to do
P: This... Honestly, I hear this around me.
P: "If it's not 'Show Me The Money', it's just reality that there's nothing else you can do."
P: You hear that a lot.
D: That's true.
P: Since I hear that so easily, I get swayed. I'd think like "I should get my act together and do it."
P: My problem is that I don't match the concept that 'Show Me The Money' wants.
P: The kind of music that's strong... Like something fighting something death...
P: I've never written (lyrics) for that kind of theme, so...
D: For now, well...
P: Yeah, I'm still looking at it positively.
N: Alright. Well, you still have until early April.
D: I think they're accepting submissions till about April 16th. Is that right?
P: Oh, is that so?
N: Probably 15th or 16th.
N: So you're considering.
N: It's really fierce, 'Show Me The Money'.
D: Just follow your heart.
N: Yeah.
P: Are you guys, too... (planning to participate)
N: We are all considering right now.
P: Ah...
N: It's just... To do or not to do...
P: I keep going back and forth my decisions... I think it's pretty serious.
N: Yeah. However, I think that
N: it's still good if you decide to continue making music.
P: Yep.
N: Because, I think that your musical style is breaking barriers.
D: For me, my situation is... Hope that you know people like me exist.
D: I decided not to participate in 'Show Me The Money'.
D: Because I'm making an album.
N: But! You're appearing on TV.
D: Ah!
N: That... 'Produce 101'...
D: Are you referring to this?
N: Are you promoting the show?
N: 'Produce 101'.
N: Anyway-
N: Think about what you gotta think.
N: Just go as your heart wishes.
P: Thank you.
N: It could be a big thing if you see it this way, and it could be nothing at all if you think that way.
D: Yep.
N: To end off, we have asked all the questions we had.
N: It was too short, right?
P: No, no!
N: Because we have 3 guests today...
P: Ah, that's okay.
N: To end off, just say what you want to say.
P: Finally... Um...
P: There's this thing I wanted to say when it's done.
P: I've already finished working on 'FILM',
P: so next is the album artwork now.
P: I worked with Rowdee hyungnim for the album cover and it turned out really pretty and I'm very thankful.
P: I already knew his contact, anyway... VMC... [He's saying that he didn't need to go thru Nucksal to reach Rowdee]
N: He's our boss.
P: Yep, so...
P: I knew Nucksal hyung already, so I contacted him since it's been a long while.
P: And the KaTalk message he replied was "Who are you?"...
P: I was like "Hyung! How long has it been? How are you?"
N: And after that I sent "Who are you?"
P: No, you sent something like "Sorry, but who is this?"
P: I wrote something like this in my bio, like
P: "Hello, I'm Jung Dong Wook who goes by 'Penomeco'"
N: You wrote that in the bio?
P: I sent it to you that way.
N: Me?
P: Yeah. "Hello, I'm Jung Dong Wook who goes by 'Penomeco'"
N: You sent that as a message?
P: Yes I did.
N: This is terrible...
N: And you said you didn't have a (phone) number?
P: Yes, I said that I didn't have a number, so...
P: I said that so... Next time, let's keep in touch...
N: Sorry... I'm so sorry!
D: So if you guys had a relationship like this, were you pretending to know each other well just now?
N: That's how the world runs.
P: And in the past, I unofficially worked on a song for Mills hyung.
P: He promised me a featuring.
N: This only appears ???!
D: Sorry, but when did I ever say that?
P: You must...!
D: Hey! Why now...
P: I.. Um...
N: ???
D: Did I say that?
P: Yes... That time...
N: When was it?
P: I once contacted Sehun-hyung about it (?)
D: Ah...
D: I'm sorry.
N: "Sorry..."
N: You held it in for a long time...
D: No, but...
N: You must have really wanted to talk about it.
D: I'm sorry. I had no idea.
D: Was that before you featured in Zico's '말해 Yes or No'?
P: It was...... Probably after that?
D: If it's after that, I probably declined-
P: No, no. I think it was before I featured.
D: Ah, if it was before that, we could have talked.
P: It was before the featuring.
N: ???
D: Ah you... Really- Do your job properly and run the show.
N: Okay~
N: Today...
D: I'm sorry.
P: No, no...
N: We were with Penomeco, who the both of us are very sorry towards.
N: Come again when you release your next album.
P: Ah, for real?
N: As long as we are here for.
P: Really?
D: Come again when you release an album. Maybe we can work together if we can coordinate.
N: Please listen to Penomeco's 'FILM',
N: With Penomeco, we have the first rookie artist.
D: We have three parts, so don't change the channel.
N: That was Penomeco for you!
Subbed by @PNMCOREA / Find me on Twitter
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