Jonah Hill: I'm honored to be able to make a film that represents this ... our culture
that we grew up on.
It's not easy to get this shit through the system.
It's always these big Hollywood movies that fuck up hip hop or fuck up skateboarding;
or fuck up sneaker culture, fuck up all that stuff.
It's like they're old people tryna figure it out and so if I could do anything to just
make a film for us, that's sick.
I'm hyped on that.
Rob Markman: What's up geniuses, welcome back to For the Record, I am your host, Rob Markman.
Now, today's guest is very special, man.
It's not so often on this show ... matter fact, it's not ever on this show that we get
an Oscar nominated, big Hollywood star.
My man was in Superbad, he was in Wolf of Wall street; he's making his directorial debut
for a movie that he wrote and supervised the music on.
Picked all the music on Mid90s.
Everybody is buzzing about this film.
I'd like to welcome to For The Record, my man Jonah Hill.
Jonah Hill: Thanks for having me, Rob.
Rob Markman: What's good man?
Jonah Hill: It's a pleasure.
Rob Markman: Yo, man.
First of all, congratulations man.
Like, this just seems like a dream come ... you've done so much in your career but really like,
directorial debut, the movie that you wrote yourself.
The music in the movie feels so authentic.
This just feels like everything you've done before that led right up to this.
Jonah Hill: Well, it's amazing.
When your an actor, you're a color in a painting, right?
And, I've been a decent green for a long time.
But, if the director wants to paint over purple, it's their painting, you know?
Jonah Hill: So, for me, it was time to really say what I had to say.
If I look at all my heroes, people who came from comedy, who became big directors like,
Mike Nichols or Barry Levinson; you only get one shot at your first movie.
So, it had to really mean something.
That's what I looked at from my heroes and that's what they did.
Jonah Hill: For me, it's amazing to me that Genius even exists.
A big reason I made the film, because hip hop, like skateboarding is always misused
in film.
It's always shown someone driving through the hood or popping champagne.
To me, it's the emotional backbone of my growing up.
So, I needed to make a film that could elegantly portray that Tribe is to me what the Beatles
were to my parents.
Rob Markman: Right.
Jonah Hill: And Mobb Deep to me, is what the Rolling Stones were to my parents.
To actually make a film that shows even fancy people that this is a real art form.
This is real art.
It's going down in the catalog with classical music 100 years from now and DJ Premier is
Mozart.
Jonah Hill: For me, I wanted to make a film that really had a structure that could hold
that hip hop music is important.
Rob Markman: Well, you know, you get that kind of right away from if you watch the trailer, right.
You have the same sample that Wu Tang used in Tearz.
You know, so you're like, wait, whoa hold on, this wasn't the single.
This wasn't C.R.E.A.M., this wasn't Method Man, this wasn't Protect Your Neck or Chessboxin'.
Rob Markman: It was tons of singles to choose from, look, we're right here actually on Enter
the Wu Tang, number of singles to choose from.
You went and wanted to capture the feeling of Tearz for the trailer.
Rob Markman: To me, right away what that communicates is, real like authenticity.
This wasn't the paint by the numbers, let's do something to appeal to the hip hop audience.
This is like an extension of you.
Jonah Hill: Yeah.
Yeah, this is my heart.
You know, Mid90s is, first and foremost showing respect to skating, which is the most butchered
thing on screen.
So, we took the most care with that.
Then the first people I showed the film to, the first cut, were my sister, Beanie Feldstein,
Q-Tip and Frank Ocean.
Jonah Hill: I was like if I'm gonna ... I need someone to be savage.
I need people to really tear it up; like is there's anything fake, let's get it the fuck
outta there.
And, they're and honest and have great taste.
To me, this is a movie for people that pioneered in skateboarding, for people that pioneered
in hip hop.
Jonah Hill: For me, I'm from the West Coast.
So, before let's say, Souls of Mischief and Pharcyde, everything was East Coast.
Because it was either Gangsta Rap or the East Coast rap.
So, you had like Pete Rock and Premier and all these people making like ... and Tribe
and De La, kind of making more like artsy kind of rap.
Jonah Hill: Then Souls of Mischief and Pharcyde came along and the West Coast had something
that was like super artistic that we could follow.
So, to me, 93 to Infinity, Passing Me By; these are songs that are the formation of
my youth.
They are what got me into music.
And, to me, I needed to show these songs.
All of us walk around with headphones on and we hear a song and we connect to it emotionally
in the way we personally do.
You and I might have this totally different emotional connection to the same song.
In part of directing I wrote every song in there to that scene.
Every single song.
Jonah Hill: It was so I could show what that song meant to me emotionally.
Rob Markman: Can you give me an example?
Give me an example.
Jonah Hill: Of course.
If we're talking hip hop specifically.
There's a Morrissey song, that's the emotional high point of the film.
That I wrote Morrissey a letter and got clearance from him, which is amazing in and of itself.
But, there's a scene to Big L. Put It On.
Rob Markman: Put It On.
Jonah Hill: One of my favorite songs and one of my favorite scenes in the movie.
To me, it was to express, this is a different world.
This is even though ... I don't know.
That song just bangs.
Jonah Hill: I mean, but when it's J-Roo.
Whether its.
Rob Markman: Remember when that dropped?
Even going back ... 'Cause I grew up here on the East Coast and I feel like we listen
to a lot of the same stuff.
I'm from the Stretch and Bobbito era.
Jonah Hill: Me too.
Well, you know in the film, in the opening, there's a kid looking, he's looking at his
brothers Stretch and Bobbito types.
Rob Markman: Right.
And, that was so important.
That was one of the scenes that really kind of resonates.
Jonah Hill: Shout out to my Uncle Nick, though, because he used to send ... I grew up in LA.
Rob Markman: You had to get them from the East Coast.
Jonah Hill: My Uncle Nick lived out here and he would send the Stretch and Bobbito tapes
to us in LA.
Rob Markman: Sounds amazing.
Jonah Hill: They were like ... I would wait for it in the mail.
Rob Markman: For the audience who may not know about Stretch and Bob, really influential
DJs.
Jonah Hill: You should watch that documentary.
Rob Markman: Documentary is amazing.
College DJs in New York City often times, even the biggest records that you hear like
Busta Rhymes, Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See.
Very first time I heard that was on Stretch and Bobbito album.
Jonah Hill: Yeah, but also, first radio appearance for Jay Z.
First for Biggie, I think; Wu Tang.
Literally put on the people that formed what hip hop is essentially in the '90s era.
Rob Markman: Right, man.
I'm so glad we're here.
Rob Markman: That scene though, because, the reason why I'm here and I'm so blessed to
be able to be a journalist in hip hop and cover hip hop; the reason why I got into hip
hop was really because of my older brother.
I just wanted to do what my older brother did.
Rob Markman: My older brother came into the house with an Adidas track suit; "Ma, I want
that same Adidas track suit."
If he was listening to EPMD and Redman, I was listening to EPMD and Redman.
So much of me into hip hop wanted to be to prove that I was cool to my older brother.
For me, that strikes a chord with me and watching Mid90s 'cause it feels like that's what's
going on.
Rob Markman: They have a very up and down push and pull relationship.
Jonah Hill: Yeah.
Mid90s is really about very simply this kid whose lonely and has kind of a fucked up life
at home.
He's got an abusive relationship with his brother but he still worships his brother
at the same time.
Sneaks into his room to understand what's cool about music, clothes, everything.
Jonah Hill: But, he meets this group of skaters and it's really an animal kingdom movie.
He's this young cub working his way up through the animal kingdom.
And these skaters, like skateboarding provided for me, like look, I sucked at skating.
I was 100% dedication, 14% skill.
But, for me, it provided a lens that I saw everything through.
It as anti, it was punk, it was anti authority.
It shaped my sense of humor.
Like, Big Brother Magazine was so subversive.
It taught me about good hip hop, it taught me about good punk, it taught me how to dress
and how to fucking see the world.
Jonah Hill: And so for me, this kid enters and it's a time when your friends mean more
than your family.
It's like that one moment in time where emotions are so huge.
The joy is huge, the pain is huge, the fun is huge; the agony is huge.
And, he learns from these kids.
He learns what kind of person he wants to be for better or for worse.
Rob Markman: Going back to that scene when Stevie sneaks into his brother's room and
the CD collection are alphabetized.
First of all, the level of detail.
The alphabetized CD collection, I mean, you didn't just pull any album from Common.
It wasn't Resurrection it was, Can I Borrow A Dollar, the first one.
It was Criminal Minded.
Jonah Hill: That was the most heavily curated ... that room, my production designer Jahmin
Assa.
God bless him.
I think I gave him a full nervous breakdown because I was intolerant of anything not being
perfect.
To me, those are the details, we don't make a meal out of it but if you push in, everything's
perfect.
Every posters perfect, every item of clothing in the closet; you know the college basketball
jerseys, which college basketball jerseys you would rock at that time.
But, every CD.
Jonah Hill: Also, weird side note is, those CDs, those classic ones in good shape are
really hard to find.
Randomly, Jahmin comes from the skate scene in LA, the person who lent us the CDs is Jeron
Wilson, who is a famous skater on Girl.
So, that's his CD collection and I curated every one that I wanted there from my childhood.
Rob Markman: What was your CD collection like?
Was it anything like that?
Jonah Hill: It was banging.
Rob Markman: Yeah?
Jonah Hill: Yeah.
It was pristine.
It was perfect.
I'll put it up against anyone's right now.
Rob Markman: What's your favorite album of all time?
Your favorite hip hop album?
Jonah Hill: That's a good question.
Jonah Hill: Fuck.
Jonah Hill: My favorite song of all time is, It Was A Good Day.
Rob Markman: Ice Cube.
Jonah Hill: I grew up in LA.
Ice Cube and Magic Johnson are kinda the LA heroes in the 80s and 90s.
I also strongly believe that you only are today; you're not who you were yesterday.
You're not who you were tomorrow.
And, that songs all about just like, you can have a great day.
And I know it's light and fun but to me it means a lot more because it's like, you should
be in today.
Jonah Hill: But, Tribe is my, you know?
Tribe is ... They're the Beatles, man.
Rob Markman: Amazing.
Rob Markman: You know, funny thing about Good Day, you know Genius...
Low End Theory?
Jonah Hill: Yeah.
Rob Markman: You know I flip back and forth between Low End Theory and Midnight Marauders.
Jonah Hill: It's one of those two.
Those are my two favorite albums ever.
Rob Markman: Amazing.
Jonah Hill: Shout out to my brother Q-Tip.
Amazing man.
Rob Markman: Nah, man.
Shout out, Tip.
Rob Markman: Good Day ... You know, working here at Genius we kind of analyze everything
and just try and figure things out.
One of the things...
Jonah Hill: I swear, It Was A Good Day, feels like LA.
Rob Markman: It feels like LA.
Jonah Hill: If you're growing up in LA, it's like you can feel the sun on your face when
you listen to that song, you know?
So, it's very specific
Rob Markman: And it feels so real.
Last week fucking around and got a triple double.
And it's like, yo, how do you get a triple double in a pick up game.
Jonah Hill: Two in the morning at the Fat Burger.
Literally my friends and I every two in the morning on the weekends hit the Fat Burger
just to, you know?
Rob Markman: Did you ever see ... There was some research done that tried to pinpoint
exactly when the day was that he talked about based off.
Jonah Hill: I been down this rabbit hole many times.
Rob Markman: The Lakers versus the Super Sonics, trying to find the exact day.
Jonah Hill: I asked...I worked with Ice Cube.
I wrote that part for him in 21 Jump Street and when I got comfortable enough to ask him
questions the first thing I said was, "What day is it?"
And, he's just like,"It's not a day.
I just compiled all these great things to make a great day."
Rob Markman: See, he should have kept that to himself and not ruined it for you.
Jonah Hill: You know what?
Rob Markman: You should have kept that and not ruined it for us.
I like to live in the fantasy.
Jonah Hill: Well, you can edit it out if you don't want to put it in.
Rob Markman: Nah, we're good.
Jonah Hill: Okay.
Rob Markman: Q-Tip.
Tell us about that relationship, man.
I've been blessed to interview Q-Tip a number of times.
I feel like Q-Tip actually, and I look back at it, might have been trolling me.
When we had the BET Hip Hop Awards red carpet, I was at MTV at the time and it was him and
Pusha; I was like, "Yo Q-Tip, why weren't you on Cruel Summer?"
And he was like, "Well, because Cruel Winter is coming."
And I think that was the whole rumor about there was gonna be a Cruel Winter album really
kinda started with that interview.
Here I am thinking I got this great get, you know what I'm saying?
And I was like, man, Q-Tip might of been trolling me.
Jonah Hill: Oh, was he fucking with you, you think?
Rob Markman: To this day I don't know.
Rob Markman: But you know, Q-Tip is one of those, he's just so special.
Jonah Hill: He's John Lennon, dude.
He's literally like, the fact that I know ... We've been friends for about seven years
now and he's a close friend of mine.
It's weird to say.
I'm not like name dropping, I'm not like ... I love him.
It's weird to me.
I'll admit it's weird.
One of my heroes who shaped me is also a close friend of mine.
Rob Markman: Must have you bugged out.
Jonah Hill: And, I tell him that.
I don't make it weird and awkward but he's aware of what he means to me.
From an artistic level and then he personally is a great friend.
Jonah Hill: But, he is one of the truest artist I've ever met.
When he breaks something down, like if you ask him questions, right?
I interviewed him for this magazine that I did for A24, if you ask him questions about
life; you just sometimes sit for a minute after 'cause you're like, how the fuck are
you so smart?
Rob Markman: Did he give you any feedback on the movie?
You mentioned that he was one of the first ones that you.
Jonah Hill: Yeah.
Rob Markman: He did?
Jonah Hill: He loved it.
Rob Markman: Oh, he loved it?
That's what it was?
Rob Markman: But, Q-Tip is also the type that ... and me watching him as a fan and my limited
dealings with him, he's gonna tell you how it is.
He's not gonna hold back or spare your feelings because he's true artist and knows to push
true art, you gotta push boundaries.
Rob Markman: So, for you to get the glowing review
Jonah Hill: He gave me some notes.
This was a early cut.
A first draft of anything sucks.
Hopefully there's a little heartbeat in it that, around the trash makes you keep going.
But, him and Frank gave notes but ultimately they were like, "We see where it's going and
congrats."
And that was really special, a cosign, you know?
Rob Markman: Nah, that's dope.
Rob Markman: Here's a good question that I just asked.
I had Styles P in here earlier.
Jonah Hill: Today?
Rob Markman: Yeah.
Jonah Hill: He was at our screening last week.
Rob Markman: Yeah.
He came through.
'Cause he has a new podcast with ItsTheReal they do a movie podcast now.
Jonah Hill: No way.
The Lox came through.
It was amazing.
They were at the bar and I was like, "Hey, The Lox, we gotta start the screening."
It was really funny.
I don't know, it was really cool to have them there.
Q-Tip was there Prince Paul; it was amazing.
Rob Markman: Prince Paul.
You also brought a Grave Diggers song.
You see that, when I talk about the authenticity of this, you kind of had to be there for the
Grave Diggers, for that moment that they had.
Jonah Hill: There's always ... I love watching the film with a audience and when certain
tracks come on like something from Liquid Swords or Grave Diggers, it's like ... Or
even a J-Roo song; you always see one or two people go like, from behind, 'cause you're
watching in the back.
You just go, "Oh shit."
And you're like, "That's the person I made this movie for."
No, but I made this movie for you so you could feel your own self in it.
Rob Markman: What's Jonah Hill's top five?
Jonah Hill: Top five dead or alive?
Rob Markman: Dead or alive.
Jonah Hill: So funny, I just was asked this today.
Jonah Hill: Big L.
Jonah Hill: I'm putting groups in.
Rob Markman: Yeah, sure.
Jonah Hill: As one.
Rob Markman: As an act.
Okay.
Jonah Hill: Big L, Tribe, Mobb Deep, Kendrick.
Rob Markman: Kendrick makes the top five?
Jonah Hill: Yeah.
Rob Markman: Okay.
I respect it.
Jonah Hill: I believe in Kendrick.
I believe he's the future, I think he is the singular like, him and Frank are the most
singular important artists around.
And, fuck, Gang Starr.
Rob Markman: Okay.
Yeah, shout out Premier
Rob Markman: Yo, so DJ Premier, also a friend of yours, right?
Jonah Hill: I interviewed him for this magazine.
Rob Markman: For the magazine as well?
Jonah Hill: Yeah.
And, it's a magazine about ... You know, I feel like everybody has a snapshot of themselves
whenever it could be, whenever or whatever the issues are where you kind of wanted to
hide that person from the world.
I think even as you grow older you still carry that with you; or at least I do and I wanted
to find out if other people I admire do.
Jonah Hill: DJ Premier gives one of the most honest open interviews and it's really, really
compelling.
Rob Markman: Yeah, no, he's amazing and has stories for days and memories like, you can
ask him about the making of any record.
Jonah Hill: It's unbelievable.
Rob Markman: And he'll give you that detail.
Jonah Hill: You wanna hear a crazy fact?
Rob Markman: Go 'head.
Jonah Hill: That Q-Tip told me in that interview that I never knew.
On a random Tuesday in the '90s, okay.
You walk into a record store and the releases that day were Blood Sugar, Sex Magic, Low
End Theory and Nevermind by Nirvana.
Rob Markman: Wow.
Jonah Hill: I feel so sorry for music today.
Like, literally, you get Nevermind and Low End Theory just on your car ride home and
you're like, "Oh what's this new music I got today."
It's like, what the fuck.
Jonah Hill: Who do you thinks killing it right now?
Rob Markman: Right now.
Kendrick.
Jonah Hill: And who do you thinks like a lifetime hall of famer?
Rob Markman: Kendrick.
We're gonna be talking about Kendrick for the next 20 years.
Jonah Hill: That's what I said.
I think he's an important artist.
Rob Markman: J. Cole, I think we're gonna be talking about for the next 20 years.
Jonah Hill: Who else?
Rob Markman: I think Drake.
Jonah Hill: I think Drake, 100%.
Rob Markman: Drake's up there.
Drake has made ... Drake now is the leader of the pack in the way that most artist follow
what he does.
He kind of sets the standard of how music is supposed to sound on very mainstream kind
of pop level.
Jonah Hill: I think Drake and Kendrick are the two Hall of Fame lifetime artist, to me.
I think Kendrick is just on a ... Drake's like Michael Jackson and Kendrick's like.
Rob Markman: Prince?
Jonah Hill: Even deeper than that.
Rob Markman: Okay.
Jonah Hill: You know what I mean?
Like he, he's important in what he's saying as well as just pushing things musically.
Rob Markman: Right.
Has purpose.
Jonah Hill: I really respect both of them a lot.
What's interesting is one of my calls is, I feel like Travis Scott's an interesting
artist because I feel like on this last record his music got as good as his chaos was.
You know what I mean?
Jonah Hill: I was always like, I see something, the crowd goes crazy.
This guys like a real special person to them and I felt like this record the music caught
up to how cool he is.
And, he can be an interesting ... from that SoundCloud vibe, from that rowdy like punk
vibe, he might be an interesting person to watch develop, in my opinion.
Rob Markman: We were talking about that.
We did an episode of this with a bunch of journalists the day that AstroWorld dropped
and one of the points that we made was that, I think Travis has been influencing other
people's sound for a long time and him dropping this record at the right time is his sound
that he was pushing and forging back then; has become acceptable.
It's kind of this convergence of the mainstream is ready for what he was doing and he kind
of crafted something just a bit to kind of fit who he is.
Jonah Hill: In the mainstream.
Rob Markman: And be palatable.
Jonah Hill: I just think he got better.
Rob Markman: That might be a real simple way …..
Jonah Hill: Honestly, to me I respect that theory, totally.
But, I think that's giving him a sense of manipulation as opposed to making things.
So, I think when you say, "Oh, he's making it so it can fit in the mainstream."
I have no idea, you're probably totally right, I have no idea.
But, for me, it's just, yo, we're watching kids get better.
He's fucking ... Your next album should be better than your last album.
I think he's just getting better at his craft.
That's the way I view it.
Rob Markman: That's dope.
You know, one thing I wanted to ask you about 'cause this is the first day you and I met
first time you and I have met.
Actually seeing you., I went out to Wyoming for the 'Ye listening and I had seen you.
When people ask what that was like, I describe it, it felt like a high school reunion.
You seeing either people you admire or people that you know; famous, cool, fans and everybody
was just in one space kind of enjoying each other and bringing people together which was
really special.
Rob Markman: Obviously we're all fans of Kanye.
One of the things I ask myself how do I reconcile some of the things that I see going on with
him.
He was just with Trump recently, things that I may not be politically, but like yo, this
is an artist that kinda shaped my taste, shaped how I seen the world.
Rob Markman: How do you reconcile that?
Jonah Hill: People can be both.
Jonah Hill: I have a very simple answer for this because I don't wanna be in headline,
I don't wanna like, I'm not a political dude.
Kanye, love his music.
He's my favorite artist.
Actually, he should be in my top five.
That was actually crazy that I didn't put him in there.
But, I love his music.
I don't know what the fuck this is.
That's it.
Jonah Hill: I love his music, I don't know what this is.
You know?
Those are two separate things.
I'm an art versus artist person but yeah, I'm not a Trump dude and I don't love this
and I don't get it; but I love his music.
Simple as that.
Rob Markman: I feel the same way.
I think you kinda hit the nail on the head.
Rob Markman: I wanna go to you, 'cause as much as hip hop has affected you and shaped
who you are.
Jonah Hill: It's completely shaped who I am.
Rob Markman: You affected hip hop.
Does it trip you out?
Like, Genius had just did this video about all the different Superbad shout outs in the
lyrics.
Beyond that Jonah Hill gets quite a few shout outs in hip hop.
Does it trip you out when you hear rappers say your name in the song?
Jonah Hill: The only one that tripped me out was J. Cole because I never met him and people
were like, "Yo, J. Cole shouted you out on the album."
Rob Markman: Which is on Note To Self.
He's just, "Hey, Jonah."
Jonah Hill: He's thanking people.
"What you told me that in the elevator it changed my life."
And I was like, I just think, oh, he's a clever funny guy.
Rob Markman: Did you think ... Were you at home?
Did you have to think, did I meet J Cole and was I bugging out somewhere?
Jonah Hill: No, I was just like that's weird.
But, to me.
Rob Markman: Did you fake it?
Jonah Hill: I don't think I'm an authority, I'm just someone who was shaped by it.
I come from a place of reverence and love and I am formed by hip hop.
I don't give a fuck ... You know what?
Q-Tip is ... when he saw the movie the other night he's just like, "Thank you for making
this movie about the culture.
It's as much yours as anyone else's."
Jonah Hill: I would never say that but to me, it's like, this shaped me.
This is what I love.
I don't give a fuck if I'm a great rapper.
I'm not.
But, this is what I love.
So, let people love what they love, man.
Rob Markman: Have you ever tried to rap?
Jonah Hill: Huh?
Rob Markman: I feel like everybody...
Jonah Hill: I made beats in high school.
Rob Markman: Okay.
So you did.
Jonah Hill: Yeah.
I had an MPC, I had turn tables I would DJ.
I would go to Fat Beats all the time, digging in the crates.
I love DJ Shadow trying to make stuff like that.
Rob Markman: That's dope.
'Cause I feel like everybody, and some are willing to admit it and some are not, but
at some point, man, if you really love hip hop you've tried to create in some sort of
way.
Jonah Hill: Yo, I'm not a musician.
I spent years in my room tryna chop up beats.
I think my sample curation was tight.
A lot of times I would hear the samples I chose later in rap songs.
So, I was like, oh, that's cool I have a good ear.
Then obviously, I music supervised the film and music is very important to me and the
music's getting a lot of attention in the film and that makes me feel really good; because
music is very important to me.
Jonah Hill: We got Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross to score the film which is unbelievable
and insane.
Rob Markman: Amazing.
Rob Markman: I wanted to give you ... You kind of gave something away with the J. Cole
thing but I wanted before we ended to take this, give you this quiz real quick.
Rob Markman: I wanna give you the line and then I wanna see if you could guess the rapper
who said it.
Rob Markman: This one is, "That's before I lost the weight I had, no Jonah Hill, running
up a lonely hill feeling like I fell off."
Jonah Hill: I'm not gonna know any of these ones about me.
I have no idea.
Rob Markman: This is ... I'll give you multiple choice.
We have A, Smino; new comer Smino.
B, Bas, from Dreamville Artist, J Cole, Bas.
Or C, Lil Baby.
Jonah Hill: No idea.
Rob Markman: Well, we're gonna shout out Smino on Ballet.
Smino is a fan, incorporated you in a rap.
Rob Markman: We'll try one more.
Rob Markman: "They boring to me that's the opera.
I'm scoring beauties, that's soccer.
Me and Jonah Hill smoke then we talk shit about how the rest of y'all blow."
Jonah Hill: I like that one.
Rob Markman: A, Quavo.
Jonah Hill: No.
Rob Markman: B, Childish Gambino.
Jonah Hill: No.
Rob Markman: C, Lil Dicky
Jonah Hill: Lil Dicky
Rob Markman: It's absolutely Lil Dicky.
Jonah Hill: Yeah, I don't know him either.
He said that in a song?
Rob Markman: He said that in a song.
On his song Would You Believe That.
Jonah Hill: Wow, interesting.
Rob Markman: You know, but it goes back to...
Jonah Hill: I just wanna say he's very clever but I really wish it was Quavo.
Rob Markman: Shout out to Lil Dicky
Rob Markman: But, you know what?
We came up with these questions before Quavo just dropped his new debut album.
Jonah Hill: So we don't know if I'm on it or not.
Rob Markman: So you maybe on it.
Jonah Hill: I may have a verse on it, you don't even know.
Rob Markman: I'm gonna go...
Jonah Hill: I got bars.
Rob Markman: Look man, one more question.
One more fun question I want to do with you.
Rob Markman: Let's just do a what if.
A strange scenario.
Jonah Hill: Whatever?
Rob Markman: What if.
Rob Markman: Look, I'm gonna give you a scenario.
Rob Markman: Some strange scenario where let's say somebody ... I'm trying not to make this dark
Let's do this.
Jonah Hill: Where the hell are you going, man?
Jonah Hill: I'm here to talk about rap music.
Rob Markman: If your life depended on it, if it was a situation, a life or death situation
and somebody said, "Look Jonah, man, all you gotta do is just rap your favorite song for me."
What would be the one record that you could rap?"
Jonah Hill: Oh, that's a great question.
Rob Markman: Undoubtedly.
Backwards or forwards doesn't matter.
Jonah Hill: I don't know why you had to go into such morbid territory just to ask what
song I could rap the best.
Jonah Hill: There's a lighter way to ask that question.
Rob Markman: You know why, 'cause it's an Instagram meme.
It's like, if someone had a gun to your head, rap a song, what song would it be?
I tried to lighten it up.
I messed that up.
Jonah Hill: The one that I know the best, like if I ever got put on the spot to have
to do it would be, Put It On by Big L.
Rob Markman: Can we do Put It On right now?
Rob Markman: First line?
I got first line for you.
Jonah Hill: If you give me first line.
Rob Markman: You better flee hops.
Jonah Hill: I got your head flow three blocks.
L keep rappers hearts pumping like Reeboks.
Jonah Hill: What's the next one?
Rob Markman: I messed this up.
Some still be virgins if the crack never came out, I'm missing a line.
You better flee hops and get your head flown free blocks.
L keeps rappers hearts pumping like Reeboks.
Jonah Hill: Oh, my nickname clout when my name came out.
Some brother's still be virgins if crack never came out.
Rob Markman: I got a wild style always been a wild child.
My guns go.
Jonah Hill: Boom Boom.
You're guns go, pow, pow.
I know to keep ... No wait, hold on.
I know to keep the shawty smokin'.
I keep the bodies front and get half the bones in your bodies broken.
Rob Markman: Yeah.
Jonah Hill: You know the illest line in that song?
Misogyny is definitely canceled.
It was too much...
Rob Markman: It was mid 90s.
It was a long time ago.
Jonah Hill: When it comes to get a nookie, I'm not a rookie.
I got girls that make that chick Toni Braxton look like Whoopi.
Jonah Hill: I mean, it's like, he's insane, you know?
Rob Markman: Got 35 bodies, buddy don't make it 36.
Rob Markman: Big L, was so cocky, braggadocious.
Jonah Hill: He was unbelievable.
What a loss, man.
It was a big L for us to loose him 'cause imagine what he would have accomplished.
Rob Markman: Nah, man.
Thank you, man.
Rob Markman: Thank you for doing this.
Jonah Hill: Yeah.
It's amazing.
I'm honored to be here.
I'm honored to be able to make a film that represents this ... our culture that we grew
up on.
It's not easy to get this shit through the system.
It's always these big Hollywood movies that fuck up hip hop or fuck up skateboarding;
or fuck up sneaker culture, fuck up all that stuff.
It's like they're old people tryna figure it out and so if I could do anything to just
make a film for us, that's sick.
I'm hyped on that.
Rob Markman: And you did it, man.
Mid90s is out October 19th.
Jonah Hill: In LA and New York, and then October 26th nationwide.
Rob Markman: Go check out the movie.
I'm telling you it's super dope.
It's hip hop.
I always say this, y'all hear me preach this, hip hop is about community.
When Jonah talks about making a movie for us, we're talking about community.
We're talking about communal.
We're talking about all inclusive.
There's certain scenes where that if you're not hip hop you might not get it, just certain
little nods but it's an enjoyable movie for all, man.
It's a great movie.
Everybody should go check it out.
Jonah Hill: And shout out my favorite scene, is where these kids connect with this homeless
guy and there's this beautiful conversation that's Del The Funky Homosapien.
Rob Markman: Del the Funky Homosapien from Hiero.
Rob Markman: Amazing, man.
Got your man in the flick.
Rob Markman: Jonah, man, thank you for doing this.
Thank you for being on For The Record.
Jonah Hill: It's an honor.
Go see Mid90s.
Thanks.
Rob Markman: For sure, man.
Rob Markman: Thank you for checking it out.
See you guys next week.
Peace.
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