all righty guys it is qaaman here today and yes guys I don't like doing these
spoiler lights you guys already know it but out of courtesy for those of you who
still have not seen the episode if you have not caught up to Dragon Ball super
episode 128 this video will contain spoilers and don't worry until supers
initial run where it will be taking a hiatus or ending in March I will only do
this for the time being and after that you don't have to worry about these
spoiler alerts so without wasting any more time let's get straight into this a
discussion about Vegeta so I wanted to talk to you guys about Super Saiyan blue
and beyond that beyond Super Saiyan blue royal Super Saiyan blue Super Saiyan
blue with sparkly hair whatever you want to call Vegeta's newest transformation
because there are unofficial names for it and there's also kind of like a
pseudo official name which is referring to when is Super Saiyan blue and beyond
that but that is so ridiculous so I'm just gonna call the transformation
beyond Super Saiyan blue to make it simpler for you guys to understand I
think that is kind of the I guess you could say the colloquial term for
Vegeta's Super Saiyan bluish state yes I know it's so insane guys you know it's
even worse than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan which was the title that I hated
it and then when I talk about this actual transformation guys I wanted to
talk to you guys about do you guys actually feel like this form was wasted
within Dragon Ball super so the first thing we have to start off with is the
originality and when you look at this actual form for its design I mean as I
said before it's essentially Super Saiyan blue with a slight change in I
color with slightly sparkly colors and that's pretty much what it is
it's I mean it does look a little bit different from a normal Super Saiyan
blue but as I was arguing with one of my friends with about is that the only way
you can really compare this form to a Super Saiyan blue is if you see another
Super Saiyan blue standing next to it so you can only really see the difference
if you see like a Super Saiyan blue Goku standing with a Super Saiyan blue Vegeta
but by itself you'd probably forget this is actually its own thing which in
general I would say that this form doesn't really have a lot of originality
in terms of its design but I will say the aura looks cooler and I'm not trying
to put a pun intended there with that but I'm being honest I do like the aura
at least but design wise it's not really saying much and in many ways it kind of
reminds me of Vegeta Super Saiyan 2 along with Goku's because if you look at
Super Saiyan 2 Goku and super sent to Vegeta and my friend Jack's blade
pointed this out compared to Gohan and I'm talking specifically about teen
slash kid Gohan they're Super Saiyan two states barely look different from Super
Saiyan 1 so much so the part where if you really paid attention to the hair
bangs and the electricity it would almost be hard to even differentiate
between super seen in the first place and you know looking at it from the
perspective of Super Saiyan 2 Gohan Super Saiyan 2 Gohan was like the only
Super Saiyan 2 that really looked different from Super Saiyan 1 and if you
compare this with Khalif law and kaabah and even if you want to look at tails
weird berserk transformation change you know which was obviously different from
her regular berserk but Kael never really had a Super Saiyan 2 you could
honestly put Super Saiyan blue and beyond that in that same category of it
not really looking that original compared to previous forms and the only
thing I wanted to bring up about this guy's is that when you look at how
bajina actually accomplished this form in the first place I mean looking at it
in terms of its origin it was just kind of like a force transformation kind of
like Super Saiyan rage was where it's like the character just gets it by
tapping into themselves and super kind of needs you to have a stronger
transformation so let's just give Vegeta a new transformation so that he can
fight against stronger characters because the termina powers ending and we
need to sell more toys that's essentially the vibe I kind of got out
of Vegeta's origin for using it because with all of the training that Vegeta has
had and he's actually trained more than Goku because he's gone into the
hyperbolic time chamber and his squeeze more training in limited time Vegeta
never really had that training he did by himself applied to
actually getting something new it all of a sudden just came at a random moment
throughout the torment of power where his limits were broken and Regina tapped
into himself into getting this transformation out of nowhere so in
terms of how he actually got the form I would say that's very unoriginal too
because looking at how Goku got ultra instinct it seems like super itself is
kind of confused as to how Goku got it because they're bringing in spirit bomb
and careful of this and careful of that and you know Goku reaching into himself
to find all of his family that needs him like Dragon Ball super is kind of
drawing a thin line of how did these characters actually get these forms and
they're just getting them because the plot needs them to get him as opposed to
originally in Dragon Ball Z and even in Dragon Ball where there was a specific
reason and a specific level of training as to how these characters actually
attained the form and ultra instinct is a little bit different because Goku had
that training with whis and beerus but at the same time Vegeta had that same
training with Wiis and beers too and that was never applied to this royal
super saiyan blue form anyways so yeah I think you guys are kind of getting my
point here with the originality of this form and to talk to you guys
specifically about the actual accomplishments of this form guys here's
where we have a different case because it did defeat Topo who was the second
strongest character in the torment of power so if you combine that with Vegeta
using his final explosion which was taking a direct flashback to what
happened when Vegeta fought against flat blue I would say in terms of
accomplishments it did do something and you know although Vegeta kind of burnt
out all of his energy when he used that technique even though in the very next
episode he kind of tapped into his power again you can say that Vegeta for at
least a brief amount of time fought against the strongest character
determined power and the second strongest character in the tournament
power that's not on universe 7 in both topo and jiren so it did do something at
the very least which gives it some level of at least giving it some form of
relevance to Vegeta specifically but in the grand scheme of things that brings
us into our next point and our next point is to talk about the long lasting
impact of Super Saiyan blue and beyond that or whatever you want to call it and
looking at this transformation guys I don't think this form has any
long-lasting impact and the reason why I'm saying this is because a lot of
times when you look at something that is occurring right so as of right now
Dragon Ball super is airing a lot of times we get kind of caught up in what's
happening now and we don't really look at the
long-term impacts of how this will be looked at in the future so in the future
do you think ultra instinct will be something that will definitely be
remembered by Dragon Ball fans well the thing about ultra instinct and obviously
a lot of people are talking about ultra instinct and mastered ultra instinct now
is the fact that at least the story kind of gave us some form of background with
the training plus Goku having experience using it against kefla and jeera and
originally to somewhat give it its own feel and ultra instinct is not a Super
Saiyan transformation so when you combine that compared to the Super
Saiyan blue and beyond that it's kind of its own thing even though the design
doesn't really look that original and when you look at this in the case of
Vegeta it feels like beyond Super Saiyan blue with the transformation that was
created to hype up fans and to promote sales in business in theory if you
really honestly think about this from the very beginning of goku and vegeta
learning Super Saiyan blue in the first place theoretically Goku should actually
have Super Saiyan beyondblue the same way that Vegeta did because they had a
very similar training regiment together and on top of this if anybody had
mastery of Super Saiyan blue with obviously using the Super Saiyan blue
kaio-ken and if there was one character that was tapping into his own limits as
we saw Goku doing with ultra instinct and more Goku should actually be using
Super Saiyan beyondblue the same way that Vegeta did but it goes to show you
that this was a transformation that they were clearly creating to differentiate
between Oh with Goku and I think this became even more obvious when you saw
Goku and Vegeta tag-teaming Geryon and I don't mean that in a dirty way as a lot
of you guys are going to come that but if you look at the way
that Goku and Vegeta were fighting against yearand they clearly wanted to
show you a difference in how their super saiyan blue forms looked until goku real
unlocked his ultra instinct and mastered ultra instinct again and in the short
term they had to just give Vegeta something that would allow him to
compete with stronger characters that he wasn't able to compete with before and I
honestly think that years from now this will be looked at as a variant of a
Super Saiyan blue that's not really going to be memorable to Dragon Ball
fans because Vegeta was given this form at the very end of the torment of power
and because it was overshadowed by Goku's ultra instinct I don't really
think that many fans will care outside of Vegeta fans and I'm a Vegeta fan
myself so I'm not trying to hate on the transformation I'm just trying to be
honest with you guys and I know I say I like to be honest with you guys a lot
but I really honestly just want to give you a true hardcore analysis about what
this form has actually done within the Dragon Ball series so with everything
else said guys I think this forum was just a gimmick but if you guys have a
difference of opinion and if you disagree with the points I made this
video let me know what you think in a conversation below but as far as I'm
concerned beyond Super Saiyan blue was a waste of
time so with everything else said please remember to rate comment subscribe any
member as I always say to have a great day guys
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