This week on TGC News, 2 new rifles from Savage, SlideFire circles the drain and A sanctuary
county for gun owners!
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First up this week are 2 new rifles from Savage.
They have been on an absolute tear this year expanding the 110 line and now they are expanding
their line of semi auto rifles they call the Modern Sporting Rifle or MSR line with the
addition of 2 competition rifles.
The MSR15 and MSR10 competition models are being announced today.
Its kinda cool that a new product gets announced on the day an episode of TGC News is released.
That doesn't happen often, and I think that's pretty cool.
I gotta be honest, the feature set on these is actually really nice and also very similar
on each rifle so let's break down what you get.
Starting at the rear, they have a Magpul CTR stock, A QD endplate thats anodized red, a
nice set of forged receivers WITH a non reciprocating side charging handle, a hogue grip, red ambi
safety, ambi mag release, a 2 stage trigger, a removable flared magwell thats is also red,
a slim MLOK handguard that covers up the 18" proof research carbon fiber barrel, which
has a custom length adjustable gas system topped off with a savage muzzle brake.
The 15's are available in both 223 AND 224 valkyrie, and the 10 is available in 308 only
at the moment.
To be honest, we've seen rifles like this all over the market with companies that specialize
in custom rifles.
The concept of a factory out of the box ready to rock competition rifle isn't really new.
HOWEVER, a rifle that is dialed up this high from a manufacturer that normally focuses
on products that fit a wider array of folks like Savage is very interesting.
I am very curious to see how these things shoot and what kind of groups they put down
because they are NOT cheap.
MSRP on the 15 is 2875 while the 10 weighs in at 3449.
These rifles are definitely not aimed at joe everyman BUT they are a really well rounded
package out of the box.
What do you guys think?
Would you skip buying the parts yourself and buy one of these from the factory OR would
you rather enjoy the experience of building your own competition rifle?
Sound off in the comments and let me know your thoughts.
And in the struggle bus is gassed up and running again news,
Slide Fire, the company that WAS
the top of the bump stock food chain has announced that they will be shutting down and not accepting
orders past May 20th, 2018.
This comes on the back of the ATF considering a regulation change and redefining the term
machine gun based on recommendations from President Trump and the NRA.
Yep, I'm blaming the NRA for that.
This is a really disappointing move because at this point the regulations have NOT been
changed and the ATF has only published a notice of proposed rulemaking which is currently
open for comment.
We did a video covering this not long ago on the legal brief.
To me, this is slidefire bowing down before the end and giving up.
To quote the founder of Slidefire right after the las vegas shooting, "I built something
and a madman is taking it all away."
I fully expected companies like their to stand tall and fight the good fight but such is
not the case.
To be honest, companies like Fostech and Franklin Armory who are also facing regulatory change
nonsense have been silent on the topic as well.
One thing to consider is that beyond the regulatory nonsense, Slidefire is also dealing with a
lawsuit in clark county nevada claiming that they are responsible for the las vegas shooting
in certain ways and that they have been negligent in selling their products for years.
The result of that court proceeding will be VERY interesting because what I don't know
is whether or not an accessory manufacturer falls under the scope of something we covered
on a different Legal brief episode called the PLCAA which is something that protects
gun companies from being sued in instances like this.
Either way none of this is positive for the gun industry and only time will give us the
answers we seek.
This one is kind of the opposite of the struggle bus,
Effingham county in Illinois, can you believe this, Illinois,
has announced that "they will become a Sanctuary county and not
enforce any law that would unconstitutionally restrict the second amendment."
Although the vote went through with an 8-1 victory... the sheriff came out and said that
it will not control anything in his office and that the vote was essentially symbolic
in nature.
Honestly, I think it's interesting to see how people react when the tables are turned.
I won't get into the politics of Sanctuary cities but I do think that when it comes to
guns, the need for a safe haven in certain states is becoming an actual necessary thing.
The reason I told you guys about this is because I want to hear your thoughts, Should we more
counties adopt this policy of being a bastion of freedom OR should the fight be taken to
a higher level?
Maybe we could have sanctuary states?
Obviously that's not how things SHOULD be, we should be free to exercise the right to
keep and bear arms BUT do you think this might become a necessary thing?
Drop your thoughts in the comment section and let's keep this discussion going because
I think it could be really interesting.
What do we do if we continue to lose our rights?
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Friendly Fire questions this week
are coming from the gun collective facebook page.
It's one of the biggest things that could do some real damage to the industry.
However, I think that damage would be temporary.
Someone would step up and say either we will not let politics decide who we do business
with as a bank or even hey we support everyone rights let's work together.
Controlling the money could control a lot of things and banks have shown us many times
that they can not be trusted.
You don't, that is a massive waste of time.
You need tooling and dies and the machinery to go with it.
With the amount of brass around right now, making your own makes no sense.
In my opinion if a gun doesn't shoot at least 2 inch groups at 100 yards, you have a problem.
1 moa is about par and sub-moa is what I want to see but is not always attained.
Some cartridges and guns are just not meant to lay down precision groups so you have to
be flexible about it but sub moa is desired for sure.
Well Ryan the fact of the matter is that we can't get gun owners to get off their butts
and get out to support the cause with the impending nonsense that we are currently dealing
with.
I simply do not think most gun owners are willing to sacrifice their time to get the
NFA repealed.
The TGC audience is mostly made up of enthusiasts, guys that really genuinely care about firearms
and gun culture and gun rights.
But there are a TON of people out there that just are not willing to be a part of the conversation
and that will be our undoing unless we can find ways to motivate those folks.
It's a tough pill to swallow but its the truth.
And hey, if you want to ask a friendly fire question, send it to me over on the gun collective
instagram!
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