ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE BY
THE FRIENDS AND PARTNERS OF JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES.
JOYCE: WHEN SOMEBODY HURTS YOUR FEELINGS OR THEY TREAT YOU
UNJUSTLY OR UNKINDLY OR UNFAIRLY, THE LONGER YOU STAY
ANGRY, THE HARDER IT IS TO GET OVER IT.
NOW, LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.
THE LONGER YOU STAY ANGRY, THE HARDER IT IS TO GET OVER IT.
THE QUICKER YOU FORGIVE, THE EASIER IT IS TO DO.
[MUSIC]
JOYCE: IT'S KIND OF SAD THAT JESUS DIED TO GIVE US LIFE,
THAT WE MIGHT HAVE IT AND HAVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY AND YET SO
MANY PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THEIR LIFE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE EVEN HATE THEIR LIFE OR THEY'RE JUST PUTTING UP
WITH IT, THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH, DAY AFTER DAY.
AND IT'S NOT JUST OUTSIDE THE CHURCH.
MANY CHRISTIANS ARE NOT HAPPY CHRISTIANS.
1 JOHN 3:14 THROUGH 18, "WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE PASSED OVER OUT OF
DEATH INTO LIFE," AND I'VE DONE ENOUGH STUDY THAT I CAN KIND OF
REPLACE THAT DEATH AND LIFE WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER WORDS AND KNOW
THAT I'M NOT OUT OF BALANCE SO WE'RE GONNA READ IT LIKE THIS.
"WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE PASSED OVER OUT OF MISERY INTO JOY--"
AUDIENCE MEMBER: YAHOO!
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
IF YOU--YOU'LL SEE LATER THAT DEATH IS ALL THE MISERIES
ARISING FROM SIN.
THAT'S WHAT IT TURNS OUT TO BE.
SO I JUST THINK TO MAKE IT PRACTICAL, I WANNA SAY IT LIKE
THIS.
"WE KNOW THAT WE'VE PASSED OVER OUT OF MISERY INTO JOY BY THE
FACT THAT WE LOVE THE BRETHREN (OUR FELLOW CHRISTIANS]"
NOW JOHN IS TALKING ABOUT US JUST LOVING EACH OTHER.
WE'RE NOT EVEN ALL THAT GREAT AT THAT.
JESUS ACTUALLY GOES SO FAR AS TO SAY, "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES."
AND SO NOW IT'S GETTING REALLY MAJOR.
LOVE UNCONDITIONALLY.
"HE WHO DOES NOT LOVE ABIDES (REMAINS, IS HELD AND KEPT
CONTINUALLY) IN MISERY."
C'MON, ARE WE AWAKE OUT THERE TODAY, SO--
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: I, YOU KNOW--HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A MISERABLE CHRISTIAN?
C'MON, SPEAK--YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO GET
RELIGIOUS, "OH, NO, I'VE GOT THE JOY OF THE LORD," YOU KNOW.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: C'MON, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A MISERABLE CHRISTIAN,
YOU KNOW?
WELL, I SPENT A LOT OF YEARS BEING A MISERABLE CHRISTIAN.
IT'S ONE THING TO BE A MISERABLE SINNER.
IT'S ANOTHER THING TO BE A MISERABLE SAINT.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR THAT.
WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY PEOPLE.
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.
I TRIED EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING.
AND IT FINALLY CAME DOWN TO, FOR ME, GOD JUST SAID, "YOU ARE JUST
NOT HAPPY BECAUSE YOU ARE SELFISH."
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, IF WE REALLY GET RIGHT DOWN TO IT, HOW MUCH
DO WE REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO FOR OTHER PEOPLE?
GONNA BE QUIET TODAY.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: VERSE 15, "ANYONE WHO HATES (ABOMINATES AND DETESTS)
HIS BROTHER [IN CHRIST] IS [AT HEART] A MURDERER," WOW, "AND
YOU KNOW THAT NO MURDERER HAS JOY," REMEMBER, WE'RE CHANGING
THE WORD LIFE TO JOY.
IT'S MORE THAN THAT BUT ACTUALLY THE WORD "LIFE" HERE IS LIFE
AS GOD HAS IT.
THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
WHEN WE HAVE THAT ETERNAL LIFE THAT WE RECEIVE WHEN WE RECEIVE
CHRIST, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE LIFE AS GOD LIVES IT.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, HE'S SURE NOT ON THE THRONE TODAY
MISERABLE.
AND WE HAVE IT "PERSEVERING AND LIVING WITHIN US."
YOU SAY, "WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HATE ANYBODY."
WELL, CAN I TELL YOU SOMETHING?
I DON'T THINK GOD IS REAL FOND OF THE COLOR GRAY.
NOW WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS HE'S PRETTY MUCH ONE WAY OR
THE OTHER, YOU KNOW?
YOU'RE EITHER RED HOT OR YOU'RE ICE COLD.
HE DON'T CARE ABOUT LUKEWARM.
HE SAYS, "IF YOU'RE LUKEWARM, I SPIT YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH."
THERE'S SOME STRONG LANGUAGE IN THE BIBLE THAT WE'VE KIND OF
MOVED AWAY FROM TALKING ABOUT.
AND IT'S NOT ABOUT MAKING PEOPLE AFRAID, IT'S ABOUT WAKING US UP
SO WE GET OUT OF OUR LETHARGY AND REALIZE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY
HERE FOR AND WHAT IS THE TRUE ROOT OF OUR MISERY.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: I DON'T WANT TO BE MISERABLE.
AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HATE ANYBODY.
WELL, DO YOU LOVE THEM?
WELL--BUT I DON'T HATE THEM.
BUT DO YOU LOVE THEM?
WELL--BUT I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT I HATE THEM.
WELL, I'M NOT SO SURE WHAT GOD WOULD SAY SO LET ME JUST ASK
YOU THIS.
IF YOU LOVE ALL THESE PEOPLE THEN WHO ARE YOU MAD AT TODAY?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: "UHH, WELL.
WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID TO ME."
NO.
C'MON, WHAT DID WE DO TO JESUS?
AND YET HE STILL LOVES US AND LOVES US UNCONDITIONALLY.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT TWO SCRIPTURES ON THE PROBLEM
WITH NOT FORGIVING PEOPLE.
I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO THIS MORNING.
I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THESE SCRIPTURES IN THIS MESSAGE UNTIL
I GOT HERE IN THIS CITY BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO BE
REMINDED AGAIN THAT THIS IS NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO OR
NOT DO DEPENDING ON HOW WE FEEL.
IF WE WANT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD TO BE RIGHT,
WE CANNOT STAY MAD AT PEOPLE.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: WE JUST CAN'T.
AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, THE QUICK--WHEN SOMEBODY HURTS
YOUR FEELINGS, WHICH IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
IT HAPPENS TO ME TOO.
WHEN SOMEBODY HURTS YOUR FEELINGS OR THEY TREAT YOU
UNJUSTLY OR UNKINDLY OR UNFAIRLY, THE LONGER YOU STAY
ANGRY, THE HARDER IT IS TO GET OVER IT.
NOW, LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.
THE LONGER YOU STAY ANGRY, THE HARDER IT IS TO GET OVER IT.
THE QUICKER YOU FORGIVE, THE EASIER IT IS TO DO.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: THE BIBLE SAYS BE QUICK TO FORGIVE.
QUICK TO FORGIVE.
WHY?
THERE'S A REASON.
YOU DON'T NEED THAT PRESSURE IN YOUR LIFE.
YOU DON'T NEED TO GIVE THE DEVIL THAT OPEN DOOR IN YOUR LIFE.
HE'S ALREADY BUGGING US ENOUGH.
WE DON'T NEED TO INVITE HIM TO COME IN AND LIVE WITH US.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: I GOT A DOZEN HAPPY PEOPLE.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: OKAY, MATTHEW 6:14-15.
"FOR IF YOU FORGIVE PEOPLE THEIR TRESPASSES [THEIR RECKLESS,
WILLFUL SINS, LEAVING THEM, LETTING THEM GO, AND GIVING UP
THE RESENTMENT]."
LEAVING THEM, LETTING THEM GO, DROP IT, FORGET IT, STOP TALKING
ABOUT IT, STOP THINKING ABOUT IT, STOP REHEARSING IT,
STOP GOING OVER AND OVER IT IN YOUR MIND.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT SOME OF YOU ARE FEELING,
"BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID TO ME!"
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: BUT LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
IS HATING THEM SOLVING IT?
IS IT MAKING IT GO AWAY?
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU HATING THEM IS GONNA REVERSE IT AND YOU
CAN GO BACK AND SAY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN?
NO.
THEY'RE OUT HAVING A GOOD TIME.
THEY DON'T CARE YOU'RE MAD.
SO GUESS WHO IT HURTS?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: SO HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS.
WHEN WE STAY ANGRY AT PEOPLE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GIVING THEM
PERMISSION TO HURT US LONG-TERM.
SO THEN THEY JUST KEEP HURTING US AND KEEP HURTING US AND KEEP
HURTING US, SO REALLY WHEN GOD TELLS US TO FORGIVE, I'LL BE
HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T THINK IT'S NEARLY AS MUCH FOR OUR
ENEMY AS IT IS FOR US.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES, I FORGIVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN THINK
THEY DID ANYTHING.
I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE REPENTANCE AND, "I'M
SORRY AND I TREATED YOU WRONG."
BUT GOD WILL HAVE US FORGIVE PEOPLE EVEN IF THEY DON'T
GIVE US THAT.
AND THAT'S REALLY TOUGH.
I TELL YOU, HANGING OUT WITH JESUS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT DEAL,
AMEN?
VERSE 15, "BUT IF YOU DO NOT FORGIVE OTHERS--"
LET'S TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
"IF YOU DO NOT FORGIVE OTHERS THEIR TRESPASSES [THEIR RECKLESS
AND WILLFUL SINS, LEAVING THEM, LETTING THEM GO, AND GIVING UP
THE RESENTMENT], NEITHER WILL YOUR FATHER FORGIVE YOU
YOUR TRESPASSES."
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: PEOPLE SAY, "I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG.
I JUST DON'T FEEL RIGHT.
I'VE LOST MY JOY.
I JUST CAN'T HEAR FROM GOD.
I JUST DON'T FEEL HIS PRESENCE."
AND I'LL TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
NOT ALL THE TIME, BUT A LOT OF TIMES, YOU JUST NEED TO SEARCH
YOUR HEART AND SAY, "WHO AM I MAD AT?"
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: YOU KNOW, I HAD A SITUATION NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE
SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING THAT AGGRAVATED ME AND I GOT UPSET
AND WAS MAD AT 'EM AND, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS DO THE QUICK
OFFICIAL, "I FORGIVE YOU" PRAYER.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, I'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE.
I KNOW THAT I NEED TO FORGIVE.
AND SO, "O LORD, I CHOOSE TO FORGIVE, YOU KNOW, NEH-NEH,
I BELIEVE THE BEST," ON AND ON AND ON.
BUT YOU KNOW, I NOTICED--WELL, ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T NOTICE FOR
ABOUT 2 WEEKS, I WAS JUST DOING IT AND NOT NOTICING IT, AND I
JUST DIDN'T WANNA BE AROUND 'EM, DIDN'T WANNA TALK TO 'EM.
IT EVEN AGGRAVATED ME IF THEY SMILED AT ME.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: IT WAS, LIKE, DON'T ACT LIKE YOU LIKE ME
AFTER WHAT--C'MON.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND SO--AND YOU KNOW, I WAS HAVING AN ISSUE WITH
SOMETHING AND I STARTED PRAYING AND ASKING GOD, "IS THERE
ANYTHING HERE THAT I NEED TO REPENT FOR?
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW?"
SO OFTEN, WHEN WE'RE UNHAPPY, WE'RE SURE IT'S YOU AND YOU AND
YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU.
BUT IT'S USUALLY NEVER US.
WE'RE NOT THE SOURCE OF OUR OWN MISERY AND UNHAPPINESS.
IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE AND IF I CAN'T FIND ANYBODY HERE
TO BLAME IT ON, I'LL BLAME IT ON THE DEVIL.
AND IF THAT DON'T WORK, I'LL EVEN BLAME IT ON GOD.
WELL, GOD, I WOULD BE HAPPY IF YOU WOULD--AMEN?
AND SO I JUST KIND OF THOUGHT, "YOU KNOW WHAT?
I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT MAD."
JUST A SMIDGE.
YOU KNOW, NOT A BOATLOAD.
I WASN'T GOSSIPING ABOUT THE PERSON, I WASN'T, YOU KNOW,
BUT IT WAS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT LITTLE BITTER, LIKE...
YOU KNOW HOW IT IS.
OH, HERE COMES SISTER BROWN, I'M GONNA GO ANOTHER WAY.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: YOU KNOW WHAT I USED TO HATE WHEN I WENT TO
THE CHURCH I WENT TO?
THAT WAS BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN IT WAS ALWAYS, "NOW, GO LOVE
SOMEBODY WITH THE LOVE OF THE LORD."
AND YOU'D HAVE TO GO FIND SOMEBODY AND HUG 'EM AND SAY,
"I LOVE YOU WITH THE LOVE OF THE LORD."
I FINALLY THOUGHT, "WHAT IS THAT ANYWAY?"
YOU KNOW, REAL LOVE IS WHERE ARE YOU WHEN I NEED YOU?
IT'S NOT HUGGING SOMEBODY IN CHURCH, YOU KNOW, ON DEMAND.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND, YOU KNOW, DON'T GET MAD AT ME IF YOU GOT--IF YOU
HUG EACH OTHER WITH THE LOVE OF THE LORD IN YOUR CHURCH,
THAT'S--YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE A POINT.
AND NOTHING USED TO MAKE ME MORE AGGRAVATED THAN WHEN THE PASTOR
WOULD TELL US TO DO THAT AND I COULD SEE A PERSON THAT I WAS
MAD AT, COMING FOR ME.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: OOH, I DID NOT WANT TO HUG THAT PERSON.
DON'T MAKE ME HUG THAT PERSON.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA FORGIVE, IT CAN'T
BE A PHONY FORGIVENESS.
IT'S GOTTA BE THE REAL DEAL.
YOU SAY, "BUT HOW CAN I DO IT?" I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I BELIEVE IS
ONE OF THE KEY ANSWERS.
IT'S TWO-PART.
START PRAYING FOR 'EM.
I SAID START PRAYING FOR 'EM.
DO YOU REALLY PRAY FOR YOUR ENEMIES?
AND DO YOU--YOU CAN'T JUST PRAY THAT THEY'LL GET WHAT
THEY DESERVE.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: GIVE IT TO 'EM, LORD.
GIVE 'EM WHAT THEY DESERVE.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: NO, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PRAY THAT THEY'LL BE BLESSED.
"BUT, LORD, I DON'T REALLY WANT 'EM TO BE BLESSED,
IF I'M HONEST."
BUT SEE, YOU KNOW WHAT?
I THINK IF SOMEBODY HAS HURT YOU AND THEY TRULY JUST DON'T GET
IT, AND YOU PRAY FOR THEM TO BE BLESSED, I THINK ONE OF THE
FIRST THINGS THAT GOD WILL BLESS THEM WITH IS SOME TRUTH AND SOME
REALITY SO THEY CAN REPENT.
BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU FORGIVE THEM, IF THEY DON'T REPENT, IT
DOESN'T DO THEM ANY GOOD AND THEY MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY EVEN
REPENT TO YOU BUT TO GET THEIR LIFE STRAIGHT WITH GOD.
WE NEED TO PRAY FOR PEOPLE THAT THEY WILL BE RIGHT WITH GOD.
SO WHEN YOU START PRAYING FOR PEOPLE, IT'S HARD TO KEEP HATING
SOMEBODY THAT YOU'RE PRAYING FOR ON A REGULAR BASIS.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND THEN THE NEXT THING IS IF THE OPPORTUNITY
COMES, AND THEY HAVE A NEED, WE'RE DIVING IN DEEP TODAY,
AREN'T WE?
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND IF THE OPPORTUNITY COMES AND THEY HAVE A NEED,
YOU BE FIRST ONE IN LINE TO HELP 'EM.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: OOH, JESUS!
NOW, THIS IS REAL CHRISTIANITY.
I'M NOT TALKING GOING AND SITTING ON THE CHURCH PEW
EVERY SUNDAY AND BEING PROUD OF YOUR BUMPER STICKER.
I'M TALKING ABOUT REAL CHRISTIANITY, AMEN?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: I'M TALKING ABOUT LET'S JUST GET IT DOWN TO
WHERE WE LIVE.
OKAY, MOVING ON.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: VERSE 16.
WE'RE IN 1 JOHN 3, VERSE 16.
"BY THIS," THIS LOVE, "WE COME TO KNOW (PROGRESSIVELY TO
RECOGNIZE, TO PERCEIVE, TO UNDERSTAND) THE [ESSENTIAL]
LOVE: THAT HE," HE BEING JESUS, "LAID DOWN HIS [OWN] LIFE FOR
US; AND WE OUGHT TO LAY [OUR]
LIVES DOWN FOR [THOSE WHO ARE OUR] BROTHERS [IN HIM]."
O LORD, HAVE MERCY.
NOW WE GOTTA TALK ABOUT SACRIFICE AND--WHAT DOES
IT MEAN TO LAY YOUR LIFE DOWN?
SO SPIRITUAL, JUST LAYING MY LIFE DOWN FOR THE GOSPEL.
YOU KNOW WHAT TO LAY YOUR LIFE DOWN MEANS?
IT MEANS THAT YOU SACRIFICE SOMETHING YOU WANT, TO SEE
SOMEBODY ELSE GET SOMETHING THEY WANT.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: WOW.
OKAY, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.
WHEN GOD FIRST CALLED ME TO DO WHAT I'M DOING, DAVE DIDN'T
REALLY WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.
HE WASN'T MEAN ABOUT IT BUT HE JUST SAID, "THAT'S JUST NOT
WHAT I WANNA DO."
WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DAVE MIGHT HAVE ENDED UP
DOING.
HE WAS IN THE ENGINEERING FIELD.
DAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT MAYBE OWNING A DRIVING RANGE SOMEDAY.
HE WOULD HAVE LOVED THAT.
DAVE IS A GOOD ENOUGH GOLFER THAT HE COULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN
A TEACHING PRO.
MAYBE NOT A TOURING PRO BUT A TEACHING PRO.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE HAD TO LAY ASIDE A LOT OF THAT, THINGS THAT
HE LIKED TO DO IN ORDER TO DO THIS AND, YOU KNOW, IN ALL THE
YEARS, 40 YEARS, THAT I'VE BEEN TEACHING THE WORD, NOW LISTEN--
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: NOW, THE FIRST FEW YEARS, DAVE WAS STILL WORKING
IN THE ENGINEERING FIELD SO ANYTHING THAT I DID DURING THE
DAY HE WASN'T ABLE TO GO BUT HE WOULD GO TO WORK AND COME HOME
AND GO TO MEETINGS WITH ME AT NIGHT.
AND AFTER HE QUIT THE ENGINEERING FIELD, I CAN SAFELY
SAY THAT THERE'S MAYBE ONLY BEEN THREE TIMES WHEN I'VE BEEN
PREACHING LIKE THIS THAT HE HAS NOT BEEN SITTING RIGHT
WHERE HE'S AT.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: NOW THAT'S LAYING DOWN YOUR LIFE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
BECAUSE HE WAS WILLING TO DO THAT, LOOK AT THE PEOPLE THAT
WE'RE GETTING TO HELP TODAY, AND I WONDER MAYBE IF YOU WOULD BE
WILLING TO SACRIFICE A LITTLE BIT MORE IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME
MIRACULOUS SECRET IN IT, SOMETHING GOD WANTS TO DO FOR
YOU BUT HE CAN'T DO AS LONG AS YOU KEEP JUST SPENDING ALL YOUR
TIME TRYING TO MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY.
I CAN PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEE YOU THAT DAVE IS ONE OF THE HAPPIEST
PEOPLE THAT I KNOW, THE MOST CONTENT.
HE IS SO HEALTHY, THE GUY NEVER EVEN FEELS BAD.
AND I THINK A LOT OF IT IS GOD'S REWARD IN HIS LIFE FOR WHAT
HE'S DONE.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND SO THEN I STARTED THINKING ABOUT, WELL, HOW DO
I SACRIFICE FOR DAVE?
AND I HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF DAYS.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND I THOUGHT, "WELL, I DID TRY TO FRY HIM THREE EGGS
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I WISH I HAD THE PICTURE OF THE EGGS.
LADIES, IT WAS SO BAD.
I MEAN, I USED TO COOK BUT IT'S, LIKE, THOSE EGGS, I DON'T KNOW
WHAT THEY LOOKED LIKE BUT THEY LOOKED ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE.
WHAT DID YOU SAY?
DAVE: DISASTER.
JOYCE: "DISASTER," HE SAID.
BUT HE JUST, YOU KNOW, HE ATE 'EM AND JUST SAID,
"OH, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THEY'RE ALL GOING DOWN IN THE SAME PLACE AND SO--"
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: ONE OF THE THINGS I DO FOR DAVE IS I NEVER COMPLAIN
ABOUT HOW MUCH GOLF HE PLAYS OR HOW MUCH FOOTBALL HE WATCHES OR
HOW MUCH BASEBALL HE WATCHES.
SO I'M LAYING MY LIFE DOWN TOO, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: NOW, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT--YOU'VE SEEN PASTOR MIKE
UP HERE.
WELL, HIS WIFE PENNY IS MY ADMINISTRATIVE
EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT.
SHE'S WORKING ON SOMETHING SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW BUT SHE
IS A DISNEY FANATIC.
LIKE, SHE, LIKE, LOVES--EVERYTHING'S GOT A MOUSE
ON IT.
I'M TALKING EVERYTHING, EARRINGS, PAJAMAS, YOU KNOW,
PURSE.
EVERYTHING'S GOT A MOUSE ON IT.
WELL, MIKE IS PROBABLY IN THE NATURAL NOT A MOUSE-TYPE PERSON.
BUT THIS MAN, HOW MANY YEARS YOU BEEN MARRIED?
THIRTY-FIVE?
MIKE: THIRTY-FOUR.
JOYCE: THIRTY-FOUR YEARS AND HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU
BEEN NOW?
MIKE: SIXTY.
JOYCE: HAS TAKEN HER TO DISNEY WORLD 60 TIMES.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: NOW DAVE DID TELL ME THAT HE WOULD NOT DO THAT.
HA, HA, HA.
THERE IS A LIMIT TO HOW YOU CAN LAY YOUR LIFE DOWN, AMEN?
AND SO AFTER THIS TRIP, THEY'RE GOING TO DISNEY WORLD AND SO I
SAID, "MIKE, I KNOW THAT YOU--" NOW I WANT YOU TO LISTEN WHAT
I'M GONNA SAY.
HE SAID, "I KNOW."
I SAID, "I KNOW THAT YOU--THIS IS NOT--WOULD BE YOUR
FAVORITE THING TO DO."
AND I SAID, "WHAT DO YOU DO WHILE YOU'RE THERE?"
HE SAID, "MOSTLY I LOOK AT PENNY'S FACE BECAUSE I ENJOY
SEEING HOW HAPPY SHE IS."
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT LAYING DOWN
YOUR LIFE IS.
LET'S READ VERSE 16 AGAIN.
"BY THIS WE COME TO KNOW (PROGRESSIVELY TO RECOGNIZE,
TO PERCEIVE, TO UNDERSTAND) THE [ESSENTIAL] LOVE: THAT HE LAID
DOWN HIS [OWN] LIFE FOR US; AND WE OUGHT TO LAY [OUR] LIVES DOWN
FOR [THOSE WHO ARE OUR] BROTHERS [IN HIM]."
SO GO HOME AND PRACTICE.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND THEN THE NEXT ONE--THE NEXT VERSE TALKS ABOUT
IF WE HAVE THIS WORLD'S GOODS AND WE SEE OUR BROTHER IN NEED
AND WE CLOSE OUR HEART OF COMPASSION.
HOW CAN THE LOVE OF GOD LIVE AND REMAIN IN US?
YOU SEE, FOR LOVE TO BE HEALTHY, IT HAS TO BE MOVING.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
IT HAS TO BE MOVING, IT HAS TO BE ACTIVE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SO SILLY TO JUST SIT AROUND AND TALK
ABOUT HOW MUCH WE LOVE EACH OTHER AND THEN THE FIRST TIME
THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS HELP AND IT'S GONNA BE AN INCONVENIENCE
OR IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE MONEY THAT YOU GOT SET ASIDE FOR
YOURSELF--HEY, LISTEN, THIS IS NO EASIER ON MY FLESH THAN IT IS
ON YOURS BUT I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING.
THE MORE YOU PRACTICE IT, THE EASIER IT GETS, AMEN?
I DON'T WAKE UP IN THE MORNING NOW AND THINK ABOUT MYSELF.
WHEN I WAKE UP NOW, THE FIRST THING I DO IS START TALKING TO
THE LORD AND I DON'T HAVE MY EYES OPEN VERY LONG AND I START
ASKING GOD TO SHOW ME WHAT I CAN DO FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TODAY.
BECAUSE I'M DETERMINED THAT I'M GONNA ENJOY MY LIFE AND BE HAPPY
AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN DO IT.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: OKAY NOW, 1 JOHN 4:7-8, THESE ARE BIG.
"BELOVED, LET US LOVE ONE ANOTHER, FOR LOVE IS FROM GOD;
AND HE WHO LOVES [HIS FELLOWMAN]
IS (BORN) OF GOD AND IS COMING [PROGRESSIVELY] TO KNOW
AND UNDERSTAND GOD [TO PERCEIVE AND RECOGNIZE
AND GET A BETTER AND A CLEARER KNOWLEDGE OF HIM]."
SO IF GOD IS LOVE, THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT LOVE, THE MORE
I LEARN ABOUT HIM.
THE MORE I LEARN TO WALK IN LOVE, THE MORE I KNOW HOW HE
BEHAVES AND WHAT HE WOULD DO.
GOD IS LOVE.
IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT HE DOES.
"HE WHO DOES NOT LOVE HAS NOT BECOME ACQUAINTED WITH GOD [DOES
NOT AND NEVER DID KNOW HIM], FOR GOD IS LOVE."
WOW.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: ALL RIGHT, I'LL READ IT ONE MORE TIME.
LET ME PUT IT PLAINER.
"IF WE DON'T WALK IN LOVE, THEN WE DON'T KNOW GOD."
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: PERIOD.
HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO LOVE YOUR LIFE?
ALL RIGHT, WELL, SEE, A LOT OF YOU PROBABLY THINK THERE'S NO
WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IF YOU DON'T GET A DIFFERENT LIFE.
AND THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT
COULD HELP, BUT BY AND LARGE, WHAT I'M TELLING YOU TODAY IS
WHAT GIVES ANY LIFE QUALITY.
AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER HOW LONG WE LIVE.
IT'S HOW WELL WE LIVE THAT REALLY MAKES THE DIFFERENCE.
COME ON NOW.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: IT'S NOT ABOUT QUANTITY.
IT'S ABOUT QUALITY.
AND WE GET OVERLY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW LONG WE'RE GONNA LIVE,
AND WE'VE GOT ALL THESE FORMULAS FOR HOW WE COULD STAY HAPPY AND
LIVE A LONG TIME, BUT THE POINT IS, IS HOW WELL ARE YOU LIVING?
JESUS ONLY LIVED 33 AND 1/2 YEARS.
WOW, LOOK AT WHAT HE DID.
IT'S STILL GOIN' ON AND ON AND ON AND ON TODAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT.
I WANNA LIVE A QUALITY LIFE WHERE I CAN LEAVE A LEGACY FOR
PEOPLE THAT WILL STILL--WHERE THEY'LL STILL BE BENEFITING FROM
MY LIFE WHEN I'M GONE, AMEN?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: IT'S HOW WELL WE LIVE, NOT HOW LONG WE LIVE THAT MAKES
LIFE WORTHWHILE.
IF YOU SPEND YOUR LIFE SHARING CHRIST AND LOVING PEOPLE, YOU
ARE GOING TO HAVE GREAT JOY IN YOUR LIFE.
TODAY, WE'RE OFFERING YOU A NEW BOOK THAT I'VE WRITTEN THAT I
THINK IS JUST REALLY GONNA BE AN ENJOYABLE AND A HELPFUL
BOOK CALLED "LIVING A LIFE THAT YOU LOVE."
IF WE'RE GONNA BE ALIVE ANYWAY, THEN WE MIGHT AS WELL LEARN HOW
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