(*)
>> Adrienne: ON THIS SUNDAY
NIGHT THEY WERE SEXUALLY
ASSAULTED BY THEIR SKI COACH AND
NOW THEY'VE WON THE RIGHT TO
TELL THEIR STORIES PUBLICLY AND
TONIGHT EXCLUSIVELY TO CBC.
FOUR WOMEN WHO SAY THAT THEIR
LIVES AND CAREERS WERE
CONTROLLED BY BERTRAND CHAREST
ARE SPEAKING OUT.
HOW THEY WANT TO MAKE SPORTS
SAFER FOR OTHER YOUNG GIRLS.
>> Rosemary: ALSO TONIGHT...
JUSTIN TRUDEAU ISSUES A BLUNT
WARNING DIRECTLY TO AMERICAN
WORKERS.
>>> AND STAR-STUDDED APPEARANCES
AT AN EMOTIONAL HOMECOMING IN
HUMBOLDT.
>>> AND A SOLEMN GRADUATION IN
PARKLAND, FLORIDA.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
(*)
>> Adrienne: FOUR FORMER
ATHLETES ARE CELEBRATING A
VICTORY TONIGHT.
THEY DIDN'T WIN A RACE, THEY WON
THE RIGHT TO SPEAK TO THEIR OWN
VOICES, TO
SPEAK PUBLICLY AND OPENLY AND
TONIGHT THEY'RE COMING TO "THE
NATIONAL" FIRST TO TALK ABOUT
THEIR ABUSE AT THE HANDS OF A
FORMER COACH.
IN THE 1990s, BERTRAND CHAREST
TRAINED SOME
OF CANADA'S BEST YOUNG ATHLETES
AS A NATIONAL SKI COACH AND HE
TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT POSITION
OF TRUST.
IT WASN'T UNTIL LATE LAST YEAR
THAT A QUÉBEC JUDGE FOUND HIM
GUILTY OF 37 SEX-RELATED CHARGES
INVOLVING NINE VICTIMS, ALL BUT
ONE OF THEM WAS UNDER 18 AT THE
TIME.
CHAREST IS APPEALING THE VERDICT
AND HIS 12-YEAR SENTENCE AND NOW
WITH THE LISTING OF A
-- LIFTING OF A
PUBLICATION BAN AND BEFORE A
NEWS CONFERENCE TOMORROW FOUR OF
HIS VICTIMS ARE SPEAKING OUT
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM AND
WARNING WHY IT COULD STILL
HAPPEN TO OTHERS.
HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN HE FOCUSED
ON YOU?
>> 17, THAT'S WHEN IT STARTED.
>> AT FIRST TOUCHING I WAS 12.
AND THEN 15.
>> Adrienne: THIS CONVERSATION
DIDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN.
A PUBLICATION BAN COULD HAVE
KEPT THE NAMES AND THE FACES OF
THESE ELITE ATHLETES PRIVATE
FOREVER.
THEY WERE, AFTER ALL, JUST KIDS
WHEN THEY WERE SEXUALLY ABUSED
BY THEIR SKI COACH BERTRAND
CHAREST.
HE'S IN JAIL AND THEY'RE GROWN
UP, BUT THERE IS UNFINISHED
BUSINESS SO THEY FOUGHT THE BAN
IN THE NAME OF TALKING.
>> AND I HAVE THREE KIDS, THEY
ARE 7, 6 AND 6 MONTHS AND I TALK
TO THEM... SORRY.
I KNEW THAT IT WOULD BE
EMOTIONAL
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO GO
THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.
I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE ON A
PROVINCIAL TEAM OR AT A NATIONAL
TEAM RIGHT
NOW WITH THE ROLES THAT ARE IN
PLACE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE FOR
THEM.
>> Adrienne: YOU REALLY
BELIEVE THAT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE
NOT SAFE?
>> NO, THEY ARE NOT.
>> Adrienne: THIS IS A
STRIKING THING TO SAY, AND THESE
AREN'T JUST WORDS.
IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS THEY WILL
OUTLINE WHAT THEY THINK NEEDS TO
CHANGE IN SPORTS IN CANADA TO
PROTECT KIDS IN WAYS THEY SAY
THEY WEREN'T.
THERE WAS A TIME WHEN ALPINE
CANADA WAS MADE AWARE OF SOME OF
THE ABUSE THEY SAID BUT TO THEM
THE RESPONSE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE
JUSTICE OR RESOLUTION.
>> I FEEL THAT WE DIDN'T GET THE
SUPPORTS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED
TO HAVE.
>> I FELT THAT I HAD DONE
SOMETHING WRONG.
THERE WAS A LOT OF SHAME.
>> Reporter: CHAREST
MANIPULATED THEM AS TEENS TO
KEEP WHAT WAS HAPPENING SECRET.
KEPT TELLING THEM THAT IT WAS
LOVE AND NORMAL.
THEY WERE ISOLATED FOR YEARS,
NOT TELLING FRIENDS OR
PARENTS OR EACH OTHER WHAT WAS
HAPPENING.
>> ME BEING ONE OF THE FIRST
ONES I FEEL THAT THERE'S SOME
GUILT THAT I STILL FEEL EVERY
DAY AND SHAME.
YOU HOPE THAT IT GOES AWAY BUT I
DON'T THINK THAT IT WILL EVER GO
AWAY.
>> Adrienne: IF YOU HAVE EVER
HEARD VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ABUSE ON
HOW THE TRAUMA STOPS AND CHANGES
THEM AND WONDER WHAT THAT LOOKS
LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS...
>> HE WAS DOING STUFF AS I
WALKED UP THE STAIRS AND HE WAS
FOLLOWING ME.
SO NOW AT 37 I'M SCARED WHEN I
WALK UP THE STAIRS.
I ALWAYS LOOK BACK AND, YEAH,
PEOPLE CAN'T FOLLOW ME UP THE
STAIRS NOW.
I MEAN, THAT'S FROM HIM AND FROM
YEARS AGO.
>> Adrienne: SO FAR THESE FOUR
ARE THE ONLY ONES TO COME
FORWARD PUBLICLY.
BUT THERE ARE EIGHT MORE WOMEN
WHOSE IDENTITIES ARE PROTECTED.
THEY TOO MAY STEP FORWARD TO
TALK.
NOW YOU HEARD GENEVIEVE THERE
SPEAKING AT THE END OF THE
STORY.
SHE'S THE ONE WHO WENT TO THE
POLICE FINALLY IN 2015.
SHE HAD SEEN CHAREST IN A STORE
AND REALIZED THAT HE WAS STILL
COACHING AND THAT MOMENT SO
RATTLED HER THAT SHE HID BEHIND
SOME STAIRS IN THE STORE AND IT
ALL SORT OF CAME TOGETHER THAT
THERE WAS THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE
KIDS TO BE HURT.
NOW ALPINE CANADA HAS APOLOGIZED
TO CHAREST'S VICTIMS AND ADMITS
THAT IT COULD HAVE OFFERED THEM
MORE SUPPORT.
IT ALSO SAYS THAT IT HAS LEARNED
FROM THIS SITUATION BY
RE-WRITING ITS POLICIES,
REQUIRING MANDATORY TRAINING AND
IMPROVING GOVERNANCE.
IN A STATEMENT TONIGHT TO "THE
NATIONAL" ITS PRESIDENT SAID...
>> Rosemary: HERE'S A QUICK
LOOK AT WHAT ELSE WE'RE WORKING
ON TONIGHT ON "THE NATIONAL"...
COURT CLERKS EXPOSED TO GRISLY
DETAILS AND TONIGHT ONE WOMAN
GOES PUBLIC ABOUT HER WORK
INDUCED PTSD.
>> Adrienne: THERE ARE JUST
THREE DAYS LEFT ON THE ONTARIO
CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND IT COULDN'T
BE A CLOSER RACE.
ONE THING THAT WE KNOW FOR SURE,
THURSDAY WILL BRING HISTORIC
CHANGE.
>> Rosemary: BUT, FIRST,
JUSTIN TRUDEAU AND CHRYSTIA
FREELAND SPENT THE DAY APPEALING
TO THE U.S. PRESIDENT THROUGH
ONE OF HIS FAVOURITE MEDIUMS,
CABLE TV.
THEY TRIED TO MAKE THE CASE THAT
TRUMP'S TARIFFS ON CANADIAN
STEEL AND ALUMINUM WILL ACTUALLY
HURT AMERICANS.
KEITH BOAG NOW ON WHETHER THEIR
MESSAGE IS RESONATING.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP HITS
U.S. ALLIES WITH STEEP TARIFFS
ON STEEL AND ALUMINUM.
>> President Donald Trump: I
LOVE CANADA.
>> Reporter: MORNING TV IS
WHERE U.S. POLITICS TYPICALLY
UNFOLDS ON A SUNDAY BUT THE
STORY LINEUP DOES NOT NORMALLY
PAY ATTENTION TO THE CANADIAN
PERSPECTIVE IN THE WAY THAT IT
DID TODAY, BEGINNING WITH "MEET
THE PRESS."
PRIME MINISTER TRUDEAU WAS A
GUEST ON THE SHOW AND HE LAID
OUT SOME OF THE FACTS OF THE
STEEL TRADE BETWEEN CANADA AND
THE UNITED STATES.
IN THE WAKE OF WHAT THE DONALD
TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION DID THURSDAY.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: HE'S WORRIED ABOUT
TRADE SURPLUSES AND TRADE
DEFICITS AROUND THE WORLD.
WELL, THEY HAVE A $2 BILLION
SURPLUS ON STEEL WITH US.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE TRADE IS
IMBALANCED AGAINST THE U.S.
FAVOUR ON THIS.
>> Reporter: AND THE
JUSTIFICATION FOR THE TARIFF IS
INSULTING, SAID TRUDEAU,
REPEATING A COMPLAINT HE'S MADE
BEFORE.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: THE IDEA THAT OUR
SOLDIERS WHO HAD FOUGHT AND DIED
TOGETHER ON THE BEACHES OF WORLD
WAR II AND IN THE MOUNTAINS OF
AFGHANISTAN AND HAVE STOOD
SHOULDER-TO-SHOULDER IN SOME OF
THE MOST DIFFICULT PLACES IN THE
WORLD, ALWAYS THERE FOR EACH
OTHER, SOMEHOW THIS IS INSULTING
TO THEM.
>> THERE'S SO MUCH UNFAIR
TRADING...
>> Reporter: ON FOX NEWS THE
PRESIDENT'S CHIEF ECONOMIC
ADVISER BRUSHED OFF THE IDEA
THAT CANADIANS MIGHT FEEL
INSULTED.
>> MR. TRUDEAU, I THINK THAT
HE'S OVERREACTING.
I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE
MIDDLE OF THAT.
AS A FINE FRIEND AND ALLY OF THE
UNITED STATES, NO ONE DENIES
THAT, BUT THE POINT IS THAT WE
HAVE TO PROTECT OURSELVES.
>> Reporter: LARRY KUDLOW
DESCRIBED THESE VERY TARIFFS ON
STEEL AND ALUMINUM AS "A
CALAMITY."
THAT WAS BEFORE HE JOINED THE
ADMINISTRATION.
NOW HE SAYS IT'S JUST PART OF A
DISCUSSION.
NO OFFICIAL SEEMS TO WANT TO USE
THE TERM "TRADE WAR," INCLUDING
CANADA'S CHRYSTIA FREELAND ON
CNN THIS MORNING.
>> The Hon. Chyrstia Freeland:
I PREFER TO NOT USE THAT KIND OF
BELLICOSE MILITARISTIC LANGUAGE
WHEN TALKING ABOUT TRADE.
BUT THIS IS THE STRONGEST TRADE
ACTION THAT CANADA HAS TAKEN
SINCE THE SECOND WORLD WAR.
>> Reporter: WHICH IS THE
LANGUAGE THAT CERTAINLY MAKES
ONE THINK IN BELLICOSE AND
MILITARISTIC TERMS.
>> Rosemary: KEITH BOAG IS
JOINING US NOW FROM WASHINGTON.
ALL RIGHT, CANADA-U.S. TRADE,
NOT TYPICALLY ON THE MORNING
SHOWS IN THE U.S. BUT THEY WERE
THIS MORNING.
WHAT SHOULD WE READ INTO THAT,
DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE
AMERICANS ARE TAKING THESE
TARIFFS SERIOUSLY?
>> Reporter: WELL, SOME OF
THEM CERTAINLY ARE.
MITCH McCONNELL, THE MAJORITY
LEADER IN THE SENATE, TOLD HIS
CONSTITUENTS IN KENTUCKY THAT
THIS WILL BE BAD FOR THEIR STATE
AND IT MIGHT EVEN BE BAD FOR THE
U.S. ECONOMY OVERALL.
HE SAID THAT NOTHING GOOD IS
GOING TO COME FROM ANY OF THIS.
>> Rosemary: WE KNOW THAT
CANADA AND EUROPE HAVE TRIED TO
DELIBERATELY TARGET STATES THAT
ARE CONSIDERED TRUMP COUNTRY,
PLACES THAT COULD HAVE AN
IMPACT.
WILL IT HAVE ENOUGH OF AN IMPACT
TO MAKE THE PRESIDENT BACK OFF?
>> Reporter: IT MAY NOT MAKE
HIM BACK OFF.
HE FAMOUSLY BOASTS THAT HE
DOESN'T LIKE TO BE PUSHED
AROUND, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT
IT CAUSES DISCORD AMONG THE
REPUBLICANS, AND IT IS DOING
THAT, THAT ADDS RISK GOING INTO
THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS IN
NOVEMBER.
AND IT MIGHT CAUSE PROBLEMS THAT
TRUMP DIDN'T ANTICIPATE AND
CERTAINLY DOESN'T NEED RIGHT NOW
NOW.
>> Rosemary: KEITH, THANK YOU
FOR THIS, I APPRECIATE IT.
>> Reporter: THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: SO IT'S GOING TO
BE A BUSY WEEK AND WITH DAYS TO
GO THE BATTLE TO BE ONTARIO'S
NEXT PREMIER IS REALLY IN THE
FINAL STRETCH.
AND NOW CLEARLY SEEMS TO BE
BETWEEN LEFT AND RIGHT.
LIBERAL SUPPORT STARTED TO
COLLAPSE SOME TIME AGO.
EVEN KATHLEEN WYNNE IS NOW
SAYING SO OUT LOUD.
NATALIE KALATA WAS WATCHING ALL
THREE LEADERS TODAY TO SEE WHAT
ELSE THEY'RE SAYING.
>> Reporter: ONTARIO'S
ELECTION CAMPAIGN IS NOW DOWN TO
THE LAST THREE DAYS BUT IT'S
CLEAR, THERE ARE ONLY TWO MAIN
CONTENDERS AND EACH HAVE A VERY
SIMPLE MESSAGE -- DON'T VOTE FOR
THE OTHER ONE.
>> Doug Ford: WE CAN'T GO BACK
TO THE PAST AND WE CAN'T LET THE
N.D.P. DOUBLE DOWN ON FAILED
LIBERAL POLICIES.
>> Andrea Horwath: DOUG FORD
DOESN'T NEED TO BE KEPT IN CHECK
AFTER ELECTION DAY.
HE NEEDS TO BE DEFEATED ON
ELECTION DAY.
[Cheers and Applause]
>> Reporter: THEY'RE NOW JUST
TARGETING EACH OTHER DIRECTLY
AFTER KATHLEEN WYNNE CONCEDED
THIS WEEKEND THAT SHE WON'T BE
ONTARIO'S PREMIER AFTER THE
ELECTION.
HER JOB NOW TRYING TO STAVE OFF
DISASTER.
KEEPING THE ONTARIO LIBERALS
FROM LOSING OFFICIAL PARTY
STATUS.
TODAY DESPERATELY CAMPAIGNING IN
HER OWN RIDING.
>> Kathleen Wynne: I AM
RUNNING HARD, I AM GOING TO WORK
HARD TO WORK TO GET THESE GOOD
LIBERALS ELECTED.
>> Reporter: ACCORDING TO
RESEARCH FIRM PRESIDENT GREG
LYLE IT COULD STILL GO EITHER
WAY.
>> AT THIS POINT IT LOOKS LIKE
WHOEVER WINS THAT BATTLE FOR THE
MIDDLE CLASS IS GOING TO BE THE
PARTY IN POWER.
>> Reporter: AND BOTH LEADERS
TODAY MAKING THEIR PITCHES TO
WIN THAT BATTLE.
>> Doug Ford: YOU CAN CHOOSE
THE N.D.P. AND WATCH HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LOSE THEIR
JOBS AND GO ON WELFARE.
OR YOU CAN CHOOSE OUR P.C. TEAM
AND VOTE FOR AN ERA OF
PROSPERITY THE LIKES OF WHICH
ONTARIO HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
>> Andrea Horwath: MAKE NO
MISTAKE, DOUG FORD WILL MAKE
LIFE HARDER FOR PEOPLE.
>> SHAME.
>> Andrea Horwath: AND HE'LL
DO IT TO PAY FOR TAX BREAKS FOR
THE RICH.
>> Reporter: HOW WILL IT ALL
PLAY OUT?
WE'LL FIND OUT ON THURSDAY.
>> HONESTLY IT'S TOO CLOSE TO
TELL.
>> Reporter: NATALIE KALATA,
CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Rosemary: LET'S LOOK AT THE
LATEST NUMBERS ON OUR POLL
TRACKER.
THE N.D.P. DO HAVE A SLIGHT LEAD
OVER THE TORIES OF ONE
PERCENTAGE POINT.
AND DESPITE GETTING A BIT OF A
BUMP
THE LIBERALS CONTINUE TO TRAIL
BADLY.
DOUG FORD'S CONSERVATIVES ARE
STILL AT THIS STAGE AND WITH OUR
POLL TRACKER PROJECTED TO WIN A
MAJORITY GOVERNMENT.
THE CBC POLL TRACKER IS
OF COURSE MAINTAINED BY OUR POLL
ANALYST
ÉRIC GRENIER AND HE'S JOINING US
NOW.
ERIC, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE
N.D.P. TO ACTUALLY FORM
GOVERNMENT AT THIS STAGE?
>> IT ABSOLUTELY IS STILL
POSSIBLE.
THEY'RE IN A STRONG POSITION IN
THE POLLS.
EVEN IF THEIR VOTE DISTRIBUTION
NIGHT NOT GET THEM MORE SEATS AT
THIS STAGE.
THE KEY WILL BE IF THE LIBERAL
VOTE WILL STAY WITH
THE LIBERAL PARTY.
KATHLEEN WYNNE CONCEDED THAT SHE
WON'T FORM A GOVERNMENT BUT WE
KNOW FROM AN ABACUS POLL OUT
TODAY THAT THREE-QUARTERS OF
LIBERAL VOTERS PREFER THE N.D.P.
OVER THE P.C.s IN TERMS OF
FORMING GOVERNMENT.
SO IF THOSE LIBERAL VOTERS
DECIDE TO NOT STICK WITH THE
PARTY, THAT THEY INSTEAD WILL GO
OVER TO THE
N.D.P. THAT WOULD BE KEY FOR
ANDREA HORWATH ON THURSDAY
NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: DESPITE THE POLL
TRACKER WITH THE N.D.P. EDGING
UP A BIT, THE PROGRESSIVE
CONSERVATIVES HAVE AN ADVANTAGE.
WHAT IS IT?
>> THEY HAVE A BETTER BASE OF
SUPPORT IN THE G.T.A. WHERE
THERE ARE A LOT OF SEATS.
SO THAT COULD GET THEM THE
MAJORITY GOVERNMENT EVEN IF THEY
FALL JUST SHORT OF THE N.D.P. IN
THE POPULAR VOTE.
THEY ALSO HAVE STRUCTURAL
ADVANTAGES.
THE FACT THAT THEIR SUPPORTERS
TEND TO BE OLDER AND OLDER
PEOPLE TEND TO VOTE.
AND POLLS SHOW THAT THEIR
SUPPORTERS ARE MUCH MORE ENGAGED
THAN THE SUPPORTERS OF
OTHER PARTIES.
BUT IN 2014 THE SAME THING
HAPPENED IN THE POLLS AND THEY
ENDED UP UNDERPERFORMING FROM
THE POLLS SO WE SHOULD NOT TAKE
IT AS A GIVEN THAT THEY'LL
OUTPERFORM ON ELECTION NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: AND BACK TO
KATHLEEN WYNNE, THE BEST/WORST
CASE SCENARIO, ERIC?
>> THEY NEED EIGHT SEATS TO GET
OFFICIAL MINORITY STATUS IN THE
LEGISLATURE.
AND WE SAW KATHLEEN WYNNE
CAMPAIGNING IN HER OWN RIDING IS
A STARK SUGGESTION THAT THEY
THINK THAT THEY'LL HAVE TROUBLE
WINNING EVEN EIGHT SEATS ON
ELECTION NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: ÉRIC GRENIER,
IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXCITING
NIGHT FOR US.
THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THANKS.
>> Rosemary: WHILE WYNNE'S
CONFESSION YESTERDAY WAS
SURPRISING, MAYBE, IT ISN'T
UNPARALLELED IN PROVINCIAL
POLITICS.
GET THIS IN 2001, THE B.C.
N.D.P. UJJAL DOSANJH WAS IN THE
SAME POSITION.
>> I KNOW THAT I'M GOING IN AS
AN UNDERDOG.
I KNOW HOW DAVID MUST HAVE FELT
WHEN HE SAW GOLIATH.
>> Rosemary: GO LIATHIN THIS
CASE WAS B.C. LEADER GORDON
CAMPBELL.
>> THE END OF THE N.D.P. ERA IS
FINALLY IN SIGHT!
[Cheers and Applause]
>> Rosemary: THE POLLSTERS
SAID THAT THE RACE WAS ALL OVER
BEEN IT EVEN BEGAN.
THE LIBERALS WERE 49 POINTS
AHEAD OF THE N.D.P. WHEN THE TWO
LEADERS WENT HEAD-TO-HEAD IN THE
FIRST DEBATE.
DOSANJH CONSEATED THAT THERE WAS
NO -- CONCEDED THAT THERE WAS NO
WAY
THAT HE COULD WIN.
>> I WANT TO HAVE A CONTINGENT
OF NEW DEMOCRATS TO HOLD
MR. CAMPBELL'S FEET TO THE FIRE.
>> Rosemary: AND ANTICIPATING
HUGE LOSSES FOR HIS PARTY HE
ASKED VOTERS TO NOT SPLIT THE
VOTE ON THE RIGHT BY VOTING FOR
THE GREENS OVER THE
N.D.P.
>> THE VOTE FOR UJJAL DOSANJH
WILL SUPPORT A STRONG OPPOSITION
AND A VOICE OF EXPERIENCE WHO
WILL NEVER BE MISSING IN ACTION.
>> Rosemary: HIS PLEAS DID NOT
WORK THOUGH.
>> THEY WANTED TO THROW US OUT
AND I ACCEPT THAT.
>> Rosemary: GORDON CAMPBELL'S
LIBERALS WON ALL BUT TWO SEATS
AND THE N.D.P. WAS
STRIPPED OF OFFICIAL PARTY
STATUS.
>>> THERE'S A MAJOR DEFEAT FOR
THE LEADER OF THE SEPARATIST
BLOC QUÉBECOIS.
ONLY A YEAR IN OFFICE AND IT'S
BEEN A TROUBLED YEAR AND 67% OF
THE PARTY MEMBERS VOTED TO
REJECT MARTINE OUELLET'S
LEADERSHIP.
THE BLOC HAS BEEN IN DISARRAY
SINCE FEBRUARY WHEN SEVEN OF ITS
10M.P.s QUIT IN PROTEST OVER
OUELLET'S LEADERSHIP STYLE.
AND EVEN TODAY HER ADVISERS
REFUSED TO SAY WHETHER OUELLET
WILL RESIGN.
SHE'S EXPECTED TO MAKE SOME SORT
OF STATEMENT ON HER FUTURE
TOMORROW.
>>> LET'S TURN NOW TO A "GO
PUBLIC" INVESTIGATION ON THE
TOLL THAT SITTING THROUGH THOSE
GRUESOME CRIMINAL TRIALS CAN
HAVE ON YOUR MENTAL HEALTH.
ADRIENNE?
>> Adrienne: THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS
RECOGNIZED AND SOME PROVINCES
ARE OFFERING SUPPORT FOR
TRAUMATIZED JURORS.
BUT NOW A COURT CLERK SAYS THAT
SITTING THROUGH GRISLY TRIALS
GAVE HER PTSD AND THE GRUELING
PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET BACK TO
WORK IS TAKING YET ANOTHER TOLL.
ERICA JOHNSON HAS HER STORY.
>> Reporter: SANDRA CURTIS
CALLS IT A BUREAUCRATIC HELL.
LETTERS, FORMS, EMAILS FROM THE
ONTARIO GOVERNMENT AND MANULIFE
HAVE
TAKEN OVER AN ENTIRE BEDROOM OF
HER HOUSE AS CURTIS TRIES TO GET
BACK TO WORK.
>> IT MAKES ME FEEL LOST.
YOU KNOW, I'M LOST.
>> Reporter: FOR NINE YEARS
CURTIS WORKED HERE AS A COURT
CLERK, LISTENING TO MURDER
TRIALS, RAPE TRIALS, THE CASE OF
A MAN EVENTUALLY CONVICTED OF
SOLICITING SEX WITH A
3-YEAR-OLD.
>> I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE
LAST
THINGS THAT PUSHED ME ON MY WAY
OUT BECAUSE I JUST -- I COULDN'T
-- I COULDN'T -- IT WAS THE
LISTENING TO IT AND THEN IT JUST
AFFECTED EVERY COURT THAT I WAS
IN.
>> Reporter: ALMOST TWO YEARS
AGO CURTIS WENT ON STRESS LEAVE.
SIX MONTHS LATER HER FAMILY
DOCTOR SAID THAT SHE WAS NOT
CAPABLE OF RETURNING TO THE
COURTROOM.
THE PSYCHIATRIST ALSO SAID THAT
SHE COULD DO DIRECT
ADMINISTRATIVE WORK BUT AGREED
THAT A COURTROOM COULD DAMAGE
HER MENTAL HEALTH.
ANOTHER PSYCHIATRIST FORMALLY
DIAGNOSED HER WITH
POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
THIS FORMER JUROR DEVELOPED PTSD
SITTING THROUGH A FOUR-MONTH
MURDER TRIAL.
HE SAYS THAT IT MAKES SENSE THAT
OTHERS IN THE COURTROOM COULD BE
AFFECTED BY GRUESOME EVIDENCE.
>> YOU CAN'T SAY STOP AND RAISE
YOUR HAND AND SAY I'VE HAD
ENOUGH AND I WANT TO TAKE A
BREAK.
>> Reporter: HE PUSHED FOR
CHANGES SO NOW THAT SEVERAL
PROVINCES HAVE FORMAL SUPPORT
FOR JURORS.
BUT HE SAYS THAT GETTING HELP
AND GETTING BACK TO WORK
SHOULDN'T BE SO HARD.
>> TO TAKE ON THAT TASK TO LOOK
FOR TREATMENT ISN'T APPROPRIATE
AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT
HAPPENS.
>> Reporter: LAST YEAR THE
UNION REPRESENTING CLERICAL
WORKERS IN THE FEDERAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM CONDUCTED A YEAR-LONG
SURVEY AND FOUND 79% OF
RESPONDENTS REPORTED
PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA FROM
EXPOSURE TO DISTURBING MATERIAL.
WITH AN ELECTION UNDERWAY IN
ONTARIO ALL PARTIES ARE PLEDGING
BIG DOLLARS, BILLIONS TO IMPROVE
MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, AND
MEANTIME SANDRA CURTIS SAYS THAT
SHE'S TIRED OF FIGHTING FOR A
JOB THAT SHE SAYS IS HERS.
SHE'S FILED A GRIEVANCE AGAINST
HER EMPLOYER FOR FAILING TO
ACCOMMODATE HER NEED TO AVOID
DISTURBING TRIALS.
ERICA JOHNSON, CBC NEWS,
VANCOUVER.
>> Adrienne: IF YOU HAVE A
STORY THAT YOU WANT INVESTIGATED
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO, CONTACT
ERICA AND THE TEAM AT
GOPUBLIC@CBC.CA.
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL"...
>> Rosemary: WE ARE LEARNING
ABOUT LAST-MINUTE RESCUES AND
REPORTS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOW
TRAPPED BEHIND WALLS OF LAVA IN
HAWAII.
>> Adrienne: AND WEARING
SASHES, THE SENIOR CLASS OF
MARJORIE STONE NEW HAMPSHIRE
HIGH GRADUATED TODAY.
WROAL GO TO PARKLAND, FLORIDA,
FOR THE EQUIPMENT MOMENT OF THE
DAY."
>> Rosemary: AND MY INTERVIEW
WITH TEGAN AND SARA, INDIE
DARLINGS, INTERNATIONAL POP
STARS, REALLY COOL WOMEN AND NOW
GOVERNOR GENERAL PERFORMING ARTS
AWARD WINNERS.
WHAT THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED AND
WHAT IS STILL TO COME.
(*)
>> IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLE FOR MANY
REASONS BUT ONE IS A FRONT ROW
SEAT TO
HOW MUCH THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND
EVOLVED.
(*)
* I WAS A FOOL FOR LOVE
* I WAS A FOOL FOR LOVE
* I WAS A FOOL
(*)
>> Rosemary: ON "THE NATIONAL"
TONIGHT, WE'RE TRACKING THE
SITUATION IN GUATEMALA WHERE AT
LEAST SEVEN PEOPLE ARE DEAD
AFTER
A VOLCANO ERUPTED.
ANOTHER 20 ARE INJURED AND
RESCUE EFFORTS ARE ONGOING.
WATCHING THIS STORY FOR US FROM
THE WEST COAST TONIGHT IS RENÉE
FILIPPONE WHO WILL BE ON SUNDAYS
TO KEEP
TABS ON THE DEVELOPING NEWS
THROUGH THE EVENING.
RENEE?
>> Reporter: WELL, ROSIE, THE
VOLCANO CALLED FUEGO IS ABOUT 40
KILOMETRES
SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPITAL CITY OF
GUATEMALA.
IT'S ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE IN
CENTRAL AMERICA.
EMERGENCY OFFICIALS ARE SAYING
THAT LAVA FLOWED INTO A NEARBY
VILLAGE SENDING PEOPLE FLEEING
LIKE THIS ONE.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: SHE SAYS SOME
PEOPLE COULDN'T LEAVE AND THAT
THOSE THAT COULD STARTED RUNNING
WHEN THEY SAW THE LAVA
APPROACHING.
SHE BELIEVES THAT SOME WERE
BURIED.
ED ARE THE COUNTRY'S NATURAL
DISASTER COORDINATOR SAYS
THAT TWO CHILDREN ARE AMONG THE
DEAD.
MEANWHILE HUGE CLOUDS OF ASH AND
SMOKE ARE ALSO CAUSING PROBLEMS
AND FORCING OFFICIALS TO CLOSE
THE AIRPORT.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PICTURE A
LOT OF PLACES ARE COVERED IN ASH
RIGHT NOW.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, INCREDIBLY
WE'RE STILL KEEPING OUR EYE ON
HAWAII'S KILAUEA VOLCANO.
AND LAVA HAS CUT OFF ACCESS TO A
COMMUNITY WHERE JUST THIS
MORNING THREE PEOPLE HAD TO BE
RESCUED.
AND MORE REPORTS THAT PEOPLE
COULD BE STRANDED THERE TONIGHT?
>> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT THEY'RE NOT SURE HOW MANY.
HUNDREDS WERE EVACUATED OVER THE
PAST COUPLE DAYS BECAUSE OF
CONCERNS THAT LAVA FLOWS WOULD
CUT ACROSS THE ONLY ROAD INTO
THE AREA.
IT HAS.
AND IT'S CLEAR THAT NOT EVERYONE
HEEDED THOSE EVACUATION
WARNINGS.
THIS SHOWS THE SOUTHEAST AREA OF
THE BIG ISLAND.
IN THE ORANGE IS THE CURRENT
LAVA FLOW.
THE AND AREA IN
YELLOW THAT SECTION IS ISOLATED.
SO THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY, NO
PHONES, NO WATER, NO CELL
SERVICE.
THESE AERIAL SHOTS GIVE YOU A
SENSE OF HOW THE LAVA HAS
SURROUNDED THAT COMMUNITY.
SO OFFICIALS THERE ARE ASKING IF
ANYONE KNOWS OF ANYONE WHO MAY
BE STUCK THERE TO CONTACT THEM
AND THAT THEY WILL BE CONDUCTING
AERIAL SEARCHES.
BUT THIS VOLCANO HAS NOW BEEN
ERUPTING FOR FOUR STRAIGHT WEEKS
AND NEARLY 90 HOMES HAVE BEEN
DESTROYED AND THOUSANDS HAVE
BEEN FORCED TO LEAVE.
ROSIE?
>> Rosemary: OKAY, RENEE,
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I APPRECIATE IT.
>> Adrienne: STILL AHEAD ON
"THE NATIONAL"... REPRESENTATION
ON THE RUNWAY.
MEET THE DESIGNERS BEHIND
TORONTO'S FIRST EVER INDIGENOUS
FASHION WEEK.
>> Rosemary: PLUS 20 YEARS OF
MUSIC MAKING AND MANY MORE ON
THE WAY.
MY INTERVIEW WITH TEGAN AND SARA
AND THEIR GOVERNOR-GENERAL'S
PERFORMING ARTS AWARD NEXT.
>> IN HIGH SCHOOL SARA AND I
DISCOVERED SONG WRITING.
IN THAT ART FORM NOT JUST A
PLACE TO PUT OUR ENERGY AND OUR
EMOTIONS BUT ALSO IT PROVIDED A
PATH AND A FUTURE FOR US.
WE WERE NOT JUST BUILDING A
CAREER, WE WERE BUILDING A
COMMUNITY
* A LITTLE BIT CLOSER
* ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS
* CAN YOU COME A LITTLE CLOSER
>> Rosemary: THAT'S TEGAN AND
SARA WHO RELEASED SOME OF THE
BEST POP MUSIC TO COME OUT OF
THIS COUNTRY.
AND THIS WEEKEND THEY ACCEPTED A
PAIR OF PRESTIGIOUS
MEDALS GOING TO ARTISTS WHO HAVE
DONE BIG THINGS BY THEIR MID
CAREERS.
>> FOR US IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
AN AWARD THAT HONOURS ONE RECORD
OR ONE SONG, IT SORT OF
SIGNIFIES SOMETHING THAT IS
GIVING US APPRAISAL OF OUR
CAREER BEFORE AND WHAT WE MIGHT
HAVE IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
>> Rosemary: I'M STILL DANCING
IN MY CHAIR A BIT.
THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING MUSIC
TOGETHER FOR 20 YEARS AND THE
CALGARY DUO AND TWINS
HAVE ACCOMPLISHED MUCH MORE IN
TWO DECADES THAN JUST BEING PART
OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
TEGAN AND SARA HAVE SOLD OVER A
MILLION RECORDS AND PERFORMED
SOLDOUT SHOWS ACROSS THE GLOBE.
>> I HAVE A BOY CUT.
DID YOU KNOW THAT WE WERE GIRLS?
>> Rosemary: IT EVOLVED FROM
THEIR EARLY INDIE DAYS TO POP
STARS PERFORMING AT THE
OSCARS...
(*)
BUT TEGAN AND SARA'S IMPACT GOES
WELL BEYOND THE MUSIC THEY MAKE.
THE TWINS ARE COMMITTED TO USING
THEIR POPULARITY TO CREATE
CHANGE.
IN 2016, THEY LAUNCHED THE TEGAN
AND SARA FOUNDATION TO
ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS IN
THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.
>> TO BE STRONG LEADERS WE HAVE
TO BE HEALTHY AND WE HAVE TO BE
CONFIDENT.
>> Rosemary: TO COVER THAT
TEGAN AND SARA ARE THE TOAST OF
OTTAWA THIS WEEKEND, RECOGNIZED
WITH THE 2018 GOVERNOR-GENERAL
PERFORMING ARTS AWARD.
I MET UP WITH TEGAN AND SARA
AT RIDEAU HALL AND ASKED THEM
WHAT THIS AWARD MEANS TO THEM.
HELLO.
>> HI,.
>> HI.
>> Rosemary: GOOD TO SEE YOU
BOTH.
>> YOU TOO.
>> Rosemary: DID YOU THINK
WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER WOMEN,
TEENAGERS, CRAFTING IDEAS, THAT
YOUR MUSIC WOULD BRING YOU TO
RIDEAU HALL TO A -- LIKE WAS
THAT EVEN...
>> WELL, THE VERY, VERY SIMPLE
ANSWER IS, OF COURSE, ABSOLUTELY
NOT.
BACK IN THE 1990s WHEN WE
STARTED WE WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL
AND IT WAS SORT OF PRE-INTERNET
AND SMARTPHONE AND ACCESS TO
GOOGLE ERA.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNEW
WHAT TO REACH FOR, WE JUST KNEW
THAT WE WANTED
TO PLAY MUSIC.
AND WE WANTED TO BE SUCCESSFUL
AT THAT.
AND THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE
TO HAVE A JOB AND WE GOT A
RECORD DEAL, WE THOUGHT THAT WE
WERE TRULY SUCCESSFUL.
AND PEOPLE WOULD BE LIKE DO YOU
CONSIDER YOURSELVES SUCCESSFUL
AND WE WERE VERY COCKY BUT AT
21, YEAH, GOING, YEAH.
WE HAVE A JOB.
SO I DIDN'T IMAGINE THIS.
>> TEGAN AND SARA!
[Cheers and Applause]
BUT CERTAINLY AS OUR CAREER HAS
PROGRESSED THERE'S THESE VERY
IMPORTANT COUNTRY WIDE
THINGS LIKE JUNOS AND THE
GOVERNOR-GENERAL'S -- THAT
PROVES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN
SUCCESSFUL.
>> Rosemary: DOES IT MAKE YOU
FEEL VALUED BY CANADA MAYBE IN A
DIFFERENT WAY?
ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE
THIS WHERE IT'S REALLY A BIG
HONOUR, I THINK.
>> IMAGINE WE'RE LIKE, NO.
[laughter]
>> IT DOES FEEL REALLY NICE.
AND SOMETIMES TEGAN AND I DON'T
SHARE EXACTLY THE SAME
PERSPECTIVE ON THINGS.
I THINK THAT FOR A LONG TIME FOR
MYSELF, ANYWAY, I SORT OF LONGED
FOR THIS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OR A
RECOGNITION --
>> SHE WANTED THE AWARD.
>> NOT EVEN AWARDS BUT I THINK
THAT JUST TO SOME DEGREE WHEN WE
STARTED OUR MUSIC CAREER WE WERE
SORT OF STARTING FROM A PLACE
WHERE THERE WASN'T VERY HIGH
EXPECTATIONS FOR US.
YOU KNOW, EVEN MAYBE FROM WITHIN
OURSELVES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE TEGAN
SAID TO HAVE A RECORD DEAL, THAT
WAS A BIG DEAL.
BUT TO AIM MUCH HIGHER THAN
THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT CAME
NATURALLY TO US.
SO THIS AWARDS FOR ME ANYWAYS IT
SORT OF SAYS, LIKE, IT SAYS
SOMETHING BIG ABOUT WHAT OTHER
PEOPLE THINK ABOUT OUR FUTURE.
IT MEANS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
>> Rosemary: WHAT I FIND SO
INTERESTING ABOUT BOTH OF YOU IS
THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST -- LIKE
YOU'RE NOT JUST IN A BAND.
IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX THAN
THAT.
AND TO ME THAT'S WHAT ATTRACTS
ME TO THE MUSIC AS WELL.
SO MAYBE TALK TO ME ABOUT WHO
THE MUSIC IS FOR.
BECAUSE I WAS SAYING TO MY
PRODUCER BEFORE THAT IT'S
INTERESTING, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN
A TIME IN MY LIFE WHERE I WOULD
HAVE SAID OH, THIS IS -- YOU
KNOW, THIS IS GAY WOMEN SINGING
FOR GAY WOMEN.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE, RIGHT?
LIKE, I TOTALLY RELATE TO ALL OF
THE SONGS.
>> MAYBE YOU'RE GAY NOW.
[laughter]
>> YOU'RE WELCOME FOR US
AWAKENING YOU.
>> Rosemary: WHAT WOULD YOU
SAY THOUGH TO THAT PROGRESSION?
IT'S SO INTERESTING IN THE MUSIC
CULTURE OR THE WORLD, I DON'T
KNOW.
>> I THINK THAT IS ALSO JUST A
SIGN OF THE TIMES.
I THINK THAT THINGS HAVE
CHANGED.
OUR 20-YEAR CAREER HAS BEEN
INCREDIBLE FOR MANY REASONS BUT
ONE IS A FRONT ROW SEAT TO HOW
THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND EVOLVED.
I THINK THAT
WHEN WE STARTED IN THE 1990s
THERE WAS RAMPANT SEXISM AND
HOMOPHOBIA IN THE PRESS THAT
COVERED US.
A LOT WAS BLATANT BUT A LOT WAS
THINLY VEILED, RIGHT, AND VERY
MUCH IN THE SUBTEXT.
WHICH WAS OH, THEY'RE GIRLS AND
THEY'RE QUEER AND UNLESS YOU'RE
A GIRL OR COLLEGE-AGED AND
YOU'RE QUEER YOU PROBABLY WON'T
GET IT.
WE GREW UP IN THE 1970s
AND 1980s ICONIC POP AND ROCK
AND WE HEARD HETEROSEXUALS
SINGING TO HETEROSEXUALS AND WE
RELATEED.
WHAT IS MAGNIFICENT IS HOW WE
STARTED TO BROADEN THE WAY THAT
WE LOOK AT THAT AND MUSIC IS NOT
NECESSARILY AIMED AT ONE TYPE OF
PERSON.
IT'S SUPER CHEESY BUT WE SAY
THAT WE'RE SPEAKING IN A
UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE.
WE GO ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND
SOME PLACES WE GO THAT THE ONLY
ENGLISH THE AUDIENCE KNOWS IS
THE LYRICS TO SING ALONG IT.
AND I THINK THAT IT
BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER IN A WAY
THAT IS COOL AND UNIQUE.
AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS AND
I KNOW THAT SARA AND I FEEL
DIFFERENT, BUT I DIDN'T FEEL
MARGINALIZED TO START WITH.
I DID SEE A WIDE SPECTRUM OF
PEOPLE ENJOYING OUR MUSIC.
>> Rosemary: YOU AGREE?
>> I WAS LIKE, NO.
>> Rosemary: YOU SAY THAT YOU
DISAGREE ON SOME OF THE PARTS.
DID YOU FEEL AT SOME POINT THAT
YOU WERE SORT OF OUT THERE?
>> I THINK THAT THE BENCHMARKS
AND THE TASTE MAKERS THAT I
REALLY VALUED AS A YOUNG PERSON,
I
DON'T THINK THAT WE NECESSARILY
CONNECTED WITH THEM.
AND I REMEMBER THAT REALLY,
REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THAT.
>> Rosemary: YOU COULDN'T
IDENTIFY WITH THEM?
>> I COULD IDENTIFY WITH THEM
BUT I DON'T THINK THEY
IDENTIFIED WITH US.
SO A LOT OF MY BIG INFLUENCES
AND A LOT OF THE -- A LOT OF THE
THINGS THAT I WAS REALLY INTO I
KNEW, OH, WE'RE -- OUR BAND IS
NOT NECESSARILY LUMPED IN WITH
THOSE PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, BANDS THAT I REALLY
LOVED.
I CAN REMEMBER THAT I LIVED IN
MONTREAL ALL THROUGH MY 20s
AND I REMEMBER LOVING ARCADE
FIRE.
AND I REMEMBER LOVING THAT IDEA
OF MONTREAL HAS A SCENE AND HERE
ARE ALL OF THE BANDS IN THAT
SCENE.
BUT I KNEW THAT I WASN'T IN THAT
SCENE.
EVEN IF I HAD LIKED THAT MUSIC,
EVEN IF I WAS AT THOSE EARLY
SHOWS, AND I THINK THAT REALLY
BOTHERED ME.
I WANTED TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED
SOMEHOW.
AND I THINK THAT TEGAN, SHE
LIVED IN VANCOUVER AND PART OF A
REALLY DIFFERENT SORT OF SET OF
CULTURAL MOVEMENTS.
>> WHAT IS IT, I DANCE TO THE
BEAT OF MY OWN DRUM.
[laughter]
>> BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S
INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN I GO
BACK NOW AND I LISTEN TO OUR
EARLY MUSIC I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY
PEOPLE WHO WERE PERHAPS NOT
YOUNG WOMEN OR QUEER DIDN'T
NECESSARILY RELATE TO US.
BUT WE ALSO HAD A DIFFERENT -- I
HAD ONLY SEEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT
OF LIFE AT THAT POINT.
I'M 37 YEARS OLD.
AND I HAVE TRAVELLED AROUND THE
WORLD.
I HAVE RUN A BUSINESS.
I HAVE EXPERIENCED MULTIPLE
LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIPS.
WE'VE EXPERIENCED LIFE AND
DEATH, ALL OF THESE THINGS.
IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME THAT
THERE WOULD BE MORE -- THAT
PEOPLE WOULD FIND US MORE
RELATABLE NOW.
WE ARE MORE RELATABLE NOW TO A
LOT MORE PEOPLE.
BUT IT'S ALSO NICE TO BE ABLE TO
EMBRACE OUR IDENTITY AS WOMEN
AND QUEER WOMEN IN A REALLY
DIFFERENT WAY NOW.
BEFORE IT WAS SORT OF DEFENSIVE.
WE WERE EXPLAINING OURSELVES TO
PEOPLE.
AND NOW WE FEEL THAT WE ARE
EXPRESSING SOMETHING ABOUT OUR
IDENTITY THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD
OF.
AND THE SORT OF SOCIAL
RECOGNITION AND THE ACCEPTANCE
FEELS MUCH MORE -- FEELS MUCH
MORE BROAD NOW.
>> Rosemary: THAT ACTIVISM, DO
YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY BEING
QUEER WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES
AS DO YOU IN CANADA?
I JUST WONDER UNDER THIS
ADMINISTRATION WHETHER YOU FEEL
MAYBE NOT AS COMFORTABLE AS YOU
ONCE DID OR AS YOU WOULD HAVE
HOPED TO BE?
>> IT'S A COMPLICATED QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THE ELECTION
HAPPENED WE WERE ON TOUR AND WE
WERE DEFINITELY REALLY SAD.
WE SPENT THE LAST 10 YEARS
PRETTY MUCH LIVING IN AMERICA
AND WORKING IN AMERICA SINCE THE
LATE 1990s.
WE HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY IN THE
STATES AND WE BOTH DATE
AMERICANS SO WE WERE REALLY
INVESTED IN THE ELECTION.
SO WE WERE REALLY SAD AND I
LIKED THE IDEA OF A FEMALE
PRESIDENT.
I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
I THINK THAT IN THE TIME THAT
HAS PASSED SINCE WE'RE
DEFINITELY VERY MOTIVATED AND
HYPER VIGILANT TO GIVE BACK AND
TO DO AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN
TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITIES THAT
ARE UNDER ATTACK.
AND SPECIFICALLY, OBVIOUSLY,
WOMEN AND LGBTQ PEOPLE.
THOSE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT WE
HAVE REALLY FOCUSED ON AND
CAUSES THAT WE HAVE REALLY
CENTRED IN OUR ACTIVISM, IN OUR
AWARENESS.
AND, YEAH, IT'S FRIGHTENING AND
IT'S SCARY AND IT'S COMPLICATED
AND IT'S FRUSTRATING AND IT
MAKES ME FEEL BAD AND SAD AND I
FEEL REALLY BAD FOR YOUNG PEOPLE
WHO ARE JUST SEEING SO MUCH
NEGATIVITY IN THE NEWS.
AND SOMETIMES I AM LIKE, OH,
SOCIAL MEDIA AND SARA JOKES AND
THAT WE NEED AN ASTEROID TO
BOINK US ALL OUT AND THAT'S WHAT
WE DESERVE.
>> THANK YOU FOR TELLING
EVERYONE THAT.
>> Rosemary: IT'S A DARK ONE.
>> I WON'T GET MY AWARD NOW.
>> I'M ACTUALLY AN ISLAND.
>> THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN IS
THAT AMERICA, WHICH HAS BEEN A
HOME TO US FOR 10 YEARS, IS A
REALLY GREAT COUNTRY.
AND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT
I
MEET ARE REALLY WONDERFUL.
JUST LIKE CANADA IT HAS
COMPLICATIONS AND CANADA HAS A
LOT OF THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT
AMERICA HAS, JUST ON A SMALLER
SCALE.
WE DIDN'T THINK GOOD LUCK SEE
YOU IN A FEW YEARS.
WE WERE PLAYING THE DAY THAT
GEORGE BUSH DECLARED WAR ON
IRAQ.
WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH MANY OF BAD
ADMINISTRATIONS IN THE U.S.
WE HAVE BEEN THERE AND WITNESSED
THESE THINGS AND RALLIED AND
WALKED AND WE FOUGHT FOR
MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR TWO YEARS
DOWN THERE.
AND WE TOURED AROUND AND
EXPRESSING TO OUR AUDIENCE TO --
LIKE WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE AND
WE WILL DO IT AGAIN.
THE FLIPSIDE IS THAT IT FEELS
LIKE IT ALWAYS DOES.
>> Rosemary: I THINK THAT IT'S
SO COOL TO RECOGNIZE YOUNG WOMEN
DOING INCREDIBLE THINGS.
NOT JUST IN MUSIC BUT IN LIFE.
AND SO BE PROUD OF YOURSELF.
AND REALLY CONGRATULATIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANKS.
>> Rosemary: SO TEGAN AND SARA
DID SHAKE HANDS WITH THE
GOVERNOR-GENERAL THIS WEEKEND
AND THEY NOT ONLY ACCEPTED ONE
OF CANADA'S HIGHEST HONOURS IN
THE PERFORMING ARTS BUT YOU GET
A CASH PRIZE, $25,000.
AND MEDALS FROM THE ROYAL
CANADIAN MINT.
WHO WOULDN'T WANT THAT?
>> Adrienne: THAT WAS GREAT.
I FORGOT THAT I WAS WORKING FOR
A MINUTE AND I WAS JUST
LISTENING TO THAT.
AHEAD ON "THE NATIONAL" WE JOIN
TWO YOUNG INDIGENOUS
FASHION DESIGNERS ON THE ROAD TO
THE RUNWAY.
THEY SHARE THE EXCITEMENT AND
THE TENSION OF TAKING PART IN
CANADA'S FIRST INDIGENOUS
FASHION SHOW.
>> MY WORK IS AS MUCH ABOUT
CREATING COMMUNITY AND TO
REDEFINE WHAT COMMUNITY IS FOR
ME AS A YOUNG ABORIGINAL WOMAN,
A CONTEMPORARY WOMAN.
>> I HAVE BEEN REALLY JUST
TRYING TO BRIDGE THE KIND OF
CULTURAL AND THE CONTEMPORARY
(*)
(*)
>> Adrienne: FOR THE PAST
SEVERAL DAYS TORONTO HAS HOSTED
A VIBRANT DISPLAY OF INDIGENOUS
CLOTHING AND CULTURE, STYLES
FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND
ACROSS HISTORY.
THE FIRST ANNUAL INDIGENOUS
FASHION WEEK HAS NOW WRAPPED UP,
BUT FOR TWO YOUNG DESIGNERS WHO
TOOK PART THIS WAS JUST THE
BEGINNING.
WARREN STEVEN SCOTT AND
CATHERINE BLACKBURN INVITED US
TO JOIN THEM ON THEIR
NERVE-RACKING ROAD TO THE
RUNWAY.
(*)
>> THIS COLLECTION HAS BROUGHT
ME MORE TOWARDS MY CULTURE AND
FOR THE FIRST TIME I'M KIND OF
DESIGNING WITH THAT IN MIND.
I THINK THAT THE WAY THAT YOU
CAN INTEGRATE CULTURE, YOU CAN
MAKE IT VERY CONTEMPORARY AND
ACCESSIBLE AND THAT'S WHAT I'M
REALLY TRYING TO DO.
THIS COLLECTION IS REALLY
INSPIRED BY THE WAY THAT I SAW
MY AUNTS AND MY ELDERS DRESSING.
THESE IMAGES OF THE VERY
FEMININE, GIRLISH GARMENTS, VERY
FLUID AND GATHERED DRESSES.
THE BAND HAS SUPPORTED ME
THROUGH ALL OF THIS AND REALLY
WITHOUT THEM I WOULDN'T BE WHERE
I'M AT TODAY.
>> WE WANT TO GO TO WHAT IS
FINISHED BEFORE WE GO TO WHAT IS
NEW?
>> I THINK WE SHOULD FINISH THE
FLORAL DRESS.
>> OKAY.
>> TRYING TO BRING MY CULTURE
HAS BEEN THE MOST EXCITING BUT
ALSO THE CHALLENGING PART OF THE
COLLECTION.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT PIECE
WAS FOR.
>> BEADWORK SPEAKS TO A HISTORY
FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLE THAT SAYS
THAT WE HAVE SURVIVED AND WE'RE
HERE.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE BEADWORK
ITSELF AND BEADS THEMSELVES WERE
ONCE MADE FROM THE LAND BY
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE PIECES TO BE
USED IN MY FASHION SHOW COMING
UP ON FRIDAY.
MY WORK IS TITLED "NEW AGE
WARRIORS" AND THESE ARE ARMOR
FOR THE WOMEN THAT WILL BE
WEARING THEM IN THE SHOW.
I SEE INDIGENOUS WOMEN AS
WARRIORS BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT
BATTLE THAT IT IS TO ALWAYS
PROVE SOMETHING, TO ALWAYS TRY
TO BREAK THOSE STEREOTYPICAL
BARRIERS THAT HOLD US BACK.
AND IT'S THE FIGHT.
MY GRANDMOTHER TO ME IS THE
EPITOME OF STRENGTH AND HOW I
SEE HER LIFE.
>> WALK BACK AND SEE WHAT THAT
WANTS TO DO NOW.
AS A YOUNG
INDIGENOUS WOMAN I THINK THAT I
FOUND A CONNECTION THROUGH ART
MAKING BECAUSE I HAD SOMETHING
TO EXPLORE AND NOW I HAVE
SOMETHING TO SAY.
(*)
(singing).
[Applause]
>> I'M REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT MY CONTEMPORARY
INDIGENOUS IDENTITY IS.
I STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO.
>> WE HAVE BEEN CALLED NATIVE
AMERICAN...
(*)
WE HAVE BEEN CALLED HOSTILE...
(*)
WE HAVE BEEN CALLED PAGAN...
[Applause]
(*)
(*)
>> WHEN YOU FEEL STUCK IN IT
THERE'S NO PROPELLING FORWARD.
I FEEL THAT CAN BE MY PLACE THAT
I HAVE A VOICE AND THAT I CAN
USE TO CREATE THAT CONNECTION
AND THAT UNDERSTANDING AND FOR
ME THAT'S THROUGH ARTWORK.
SO THIS ISN'T JUST FASHION, THIS
IS MUCH, MUCH MORE THAN FASHION.
>> Adrienne: REMEMBER THAT
DURING THIS NATIONAL INDIGENOUS
HISTORY MONTH, CBC SHORT DOCS
HAS BEEN WORKING WITH INDIGENOUS
FILMMAKERS GIVING THEM A
PLATFORM TO SHARE THEIR STORIES
THROUGH THEIR EYES.
YOU CAN SEE MORE AT
CBC.CA/SHORTDOCS AND TOMORROW AT
NOON OUR DUNCAN McCUE WILL
HOST AN INTERACTIVE FACEBOOK
LIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STATE
OF INDIGENOUS FILMMAKING.
GO AHEAD, YOU CAN TAKE PART AT
THE "THE NATIONAL'S" FACEBOOK
PAGE.
>>> NEXT ON "THE NATIONAL," SOME
HIGH PROFILE VISITORS IN
HUMBOLDT, SASKATCHEWAN, THE
ROUGHRIDERS BRINGING TOGETHER
FAMILIES AFFECTED BY THE
DEVASTATING BUS CRASH.
OLIVIA STEFANOVICH TAKES US BACK
TO A COMMUNITY TRYING TO HEAL.
>> COMING HERE IT'S A BIT OF --
IT'S LIKE A HOMECOMING.
(*)
>> Rosemary: HERE'S SOME OF
THE STORIES WE'RE FOLLOWING THIS
WEEK, A PUBLIC INQUIRY BEGINS ON
TUESDAY IN THE CASE OF ELIZABETH
WETTLAUFER.
SHE'S THE ONTARIO NURSE NOW
SERVING A LIFE SENTENCE FOR THE
MURDER OF EIGHT NURSING HOME
RESIDENTS.
THE INQUIRY WILL LOOK AT HOW HER
CRIMES WENT UNDETECTED FOR
YEARS.
(*)
>>> WHEN YOU'RE THE QUEEN
NOTHING SAYS HAPPY BIRTHDAY LIKE
A LITTLE BIT OF PAGEANTRY.
I THINK THAT IS EVERY DAY.
BUT ON SATURDAY THE ANNUAL
TROOPS OF THE COLOUR MARKS HER
OFFICIAL BIRTHDAY.
SHE ACTUALLY TURNED 92 BACK IN
APRIL.
>> KUZNETSOV TAKES THE PUCK, HE
SCORES!
>> Rosemary: I'M SURE THAT
NOBODY HEARS ABOUT THIS.
THE WASHINGTON CAPITALS HAVE
TAKEN CONTROL OF THE STANLEY CUP
FINAL.
THEY NOW LEAD THE SERIES 2-1
OVER LAS VEGAS AND THE PUCK
DROPS ON GAME FOUR TOMORROW.
>> Adrienne: WELL, THERE WERE
SURELY A LOT OF STANLEY CUP
DREAMS ON THE BUS THAT CARRIED
THE HUMBOLDT BRONCOS NEARLY TWO
MONTHS AGO.
AND THAT HORRIBLE CRASH IN
SASKATCHEWAN THAT KILLED 16
PEOPLE.
WELL, TODAY THE TEAM AND THE
FAMILIES AND THE WHOLE TOWN OF
HUMBOLDT GOT A MUCH-NEEDED
BOOST.
AND OUR OLIVIA STEFANOVICH WAS
THERE.
>> YOU DO THIS...
>> Reporter: SMILES ARE
FINALLY RETURNS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> Reporter: TO A COMMUNITY SO
IN NEED OF A DAY LIKE THIS.
>> THERE YOU GO, MY MAN.
>> Reporter: A CHANCE TO TAKE
A BREAK FROM THE HEARTACHE THAT
IS STILL FRESH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> Reporter: HERE TO HELP THE
SASKATCHEWAN ROUGHRIDERS,
HOSTING A FREE BARBECUE, SIGNING
AUTOGRAPHS AND PUTTING ON A
SHORT PRACTISE TO LIFT SPIRITS.
AMONG THE HUNDREDS IN THE CROWD,
THE FAMILY OF HUMBOLDT BRONCOS'
DEFENCEMAN LOGAN BOULET WHO DIED
IN THE BUS CRASH.
>> COMING HERE, YEAH, IT'S A BIT
OF -- IT'S LIKE A HOMECOMING.
>> Reporter: HIS PARENTS,
BERNADINE AND TOBY DROVE 16
HOURS FROM LETHBRIDGE, ALBERTA,
TO BE HERE.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE
IN THE EXACT SAME BOAT.
>> Reporter: EMOTIONS COME IN
WAVES.
THEY FIND COMFORT IN KNOWING
THAT THEIR SON HELPED OTHERS BY
BEING AN ORGAN DONOR.
>> WHAT I'D REALLY WANT IS TO
HEAR THE HEART AND HEAR THAT
BEAT AGAIN.
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PART THAT I
LOVED THE BEST.
>> Reporter: SHE SAYS THAT
THEY'D LIKE TO MEET THE PERSON
WHO RECEIVED THAT HEART.
>> WE'D LOVE HIM BACK BUT IF
THIS IS A SILVER MEDAL, I'LL
TAKE IT.
>> Reporter: ABOUT 100,000
CANADIANS HAVE SINCE SIGNED UP
TO BE ORGAN DONORS.
IT'S CALLED THE BOULET EFFECT
BUT IT'S ALSO OVERWHELMING.
EVEN LEAVING THE HOUSE.
>> I CAN'T GO DO THAT YET
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'LL RUN
INTO 10 PEOPLE AT SAFEWAY AND
I'LL NEVER
GET TO THE TILL.
AND THEY LOOK AT YOU AND THEY
WANT TO COME TALK TO YOU AND I'M
NOT READY FOR THAT.
>> Reporter: BUT THE BOULETS
ARE PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE AND
SO IS THE TEAM.
SURVIVOR CALEB DAHLGREN WAS AT A
HOCKEY CAMP THAT THE BRONCOS
HELD.
>> I WILL LIVE MY LIFE TO THE
FULLEST
FOR EVERYONE LOST IN THE
ACCIDENT.
I'M TRYING TO STAY POSITIVE AND
MOVE FORWARD.
>> SEE YOU NEXT YEAR!
>> Reporter: AND LEARNING TO
FACE WHAT LIES AHEAD.
>> SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.
>> GO GET 'EM NEXT YEAR.
>> Reporter: OLIVIA
STEFANOVICH, CBC NEWS, HUMBOLDT,
SASKATCHEWAN.
>> Adrienne: YOU HEARD CALEB
DAHLGREN ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.
WELL, HIS FUTURE WILL INCLUDE
THE SPORT HE LOVES.
HE'S JOINING YORK UNIVERSITY'S
HOCKEY TEAM IN TORONTO.
THE SCHOOL SAYS THAT HE CAN
START WHEN HE'S READY.
DAHLGREN IS RECOVERING FROM A
BRAIN INJURY AND BROKEN BONES.
WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON RYAN
STRASCHNITZKI, THE CRASH LEFT
HIM PARALYSED FROM THE CHEST
DOWN.
THIS VIDEO WAS POSTED BY RYAN'S
DAD FROM PHILADELPHIA'S
SHRINER'S HOSPITAL FOR CHILDREN.
RYAN ARRIVED THERE THURSDAY FOR
SPINAL REHAB AND JUST TODAY HIS
FATHER TWEETED THIS VIDEO
SHOWING HIS SON WORKING HARD
EVEN WHILE WATCHING TV.
>> Rosemary: ALMOST FOUR
MONTHS AGO ON A WEDNESDAY
AFTERNOON LIVES CHANGED FOREVER
IN THE HALLS OF STONEHAM DOUGLAS
HIGH SCHOOL IN
PARKLAND, FLORIDA.
A STUDENT HAD KILLED 17 PEOPLE.
AND TODAY WAS GRADUATION DAY FOR
SENIORS AND IT STARTED OUT AS AN
UNDERSTANDABLY SOLEMN AFFAIR BUT
A SURPRISE APPEARANCE AT THAT
CEREMONY IS OUR "MOMENT OF THE
DAY."
[Applause]
>> FOR JOAQUIN OLIVER...
[Applause]
>> IT WAS AN EMOTIONAL EVENT FOR
STUDENTS AND MEMBERS OF THAT
COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE
WHO ACCEPTED THE POSTHUMOUS
DIPLOMAS OF THE FOUR SENIORS
KILLED THAT DAY.
AND THEN THIS HAPPENED...
>> THANK YOU...
>> Rosemary: YES "TONIGHT
SHOW" HOST JIMMY FALLON
CRASHED THE CEREMONY AND
BRINGING WELCOME COMIC RELIEF.
>> YOU WON'T BE CLASSMATES
ANYMORE, YOU'LL BE ADULTS WHO
FACEBOOK SEARCH EACH OTHER AT
2:00 IN THE MORNING IN THE NEXT
10 YEARS.
>> Rosemary: BUT FALLON
BROUGHT MORE THAN JOKES.
HE SHARED
WORDS OF WISDOM AND
ENCOURAGEMENT AND THANKS FOR
THOSE FIGHTING AGAINST GUN
VIOLENCE IN SCHOOLS.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE
AND YOUR BRAVERY.
AND FOR GIVING AMAZINGNESS THAT
I CAN POSSIBLY NEVER LIVE UP TO.
>> Adrienne: YOU KNOW THERE
WAS SO MUCH TO LOOK AT THERE AND
THEY MENTIONED JOAQUIN OLIVER
AND HIS MOM WAS WEARING A
T-SHIRT BY THE WAY THAT SAID
"THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MY SON,"
YOU KNOW, SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
ALSO YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SOME
ORANGE MARKINGS, ORANGE LIPSTICK
AND PAINT ON PEOPLE'S FACES.
THAT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
ORANGE IS REALLY WHAT HUNTERS
WEAR FOR SAFETY.
AND SO THIS WAS A BIT OF A
SILENT PROTEST ON THE PART OF
MANY PEOPLE FOR STRICTER GUN
CONTROL.
>> Rosemary: AND SOME PEOPLE
THAT HAVE EMERGED AS SORT OF THE
LEADERS OF THIS,
DAVID HOGG IS ONE OF THEM AND
HE'S TAKING A YEAR OFF COLLEGE
TO HELP WITH MIDTERMS BECAUSE
HE'LL MAKE A CHANGE THAT WAY.
AND EMMA GONZALEZ, THE SHAVED
HEAD GAL THAT GAVE THAT AMAZING
SPEECH, SHE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY
TOMORROW, AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO
MAKE TOMORROW.
SO THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT
DONE YET, THAT'S FOR SURE.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR
SUNDAY, JUNE 3rd.
GOODNIGHT.
>> Adrienne: GOODNIGHT.
(*)
(*)
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