[B]: Stop insinuating about drugs!
[B]: We don't smoke weed here!
[B]: We dan't smook weeed
Did you see that? Check that out!
[B]: We dan't smoke weed!
Again.
[B]: That's LSD!
Hey, everyone. The renovated LOUD SOUND atelier here.
And today we're having the most wanted test and review
that of LS-65.
We couldn't do it without Solo v.2
because up until today it was considered the exemplary mid-range speaker.
I'd say, of 16.5 cm (6.5") speakers,
but people seem to like mocking them for not being 16.5 cm.
But that's just minor stuff. You can make a hole if you want to.
I just checked out a whole bunch of tests, including Misha M's.
And there was one thing that, well, got me hard.
I mean, I realized it was our own mistake
'cuz we've never actually shown people how to really test a speaker's RMS
in case they feel the need to do it.
So they are clueless of how much power goes into their speaker.
They look at some mythical claims.
I mean, any claim is a myth.
A claim of 150 W or 200 W depends on a whole bunch of factors.
You can run it open air, you can run it at 50 Hz or 200 Hz.
There's a number of conditions.
You can make a speaker thrive at 500 W
or you can easily burn one at 100 W.
Even one with a claim of 200 W.
Well, today we're gonna test the following.
So, here's our plan.
For an amp we got an Apocalypse 1500
which should give us about 300 W per channel at 4 Ohm.
Now we'll check what its pure signal is.
Meaning we'll learn how much of your fav Watts the amp puts out.
Then we'll check with the sine how much goes into the speakers
well, the max value. You obviously won't get that much with music.
We'll check those real Watts.
What does it mean if an OGO works at this gain and plays 50 Hz.
Nobody is going to listen to 50 Hz, for sure.
Shall we rub a test on 50 Hz?
Okay, fine. Let's do at 50 Hz. As an example.
I mean, sure, there is no point in taking 200 W off 50 Hz.
These speakers are not designed for operating at that kind of frequencies.
But you will start understanding how much your amp lets out.
And then we'll turn on some music at about the same volume.
The problem is, there's no way we'd see these figures with music.
But you will start understanding
what happens when there's this super loud sound on,
when an amp like this is working almost off the top of its game.
When your ears are shrinking, and your speakers have a near-death experience
You need to see the approximate power going into your speakers.
Let's set the HPF right away. Twisting it a teeeeeny bit.
We're basically cutting it off at about 50 Hz.
That's all we touched. Gain is almost on max.
LPF is untouched.
Phase and bass boost are also off.
Let's now see how much our amp lets out at a 4 Ohm impedance.
All hooked up?
You did it wrong.
I've seen war movies. You need to closr the circuit with your tongue.
Okay. Signal's on.
4 Ohm, right. All good.
Does it sting?
Let's roll back.
And... we see 340-350 W of pure signal off his amp.
Wait, let me show it again.
I forgot to show the level of the scroller for his result.
A pinch back.
And now... It's at about 11 hours.
The speakers are on. Let's see.
50 Hz input, the scroller at about 11 hours,
the speakers put out about 100 W each.
And you can see that the LOUD SOUND resists harder here.
ITs impedance is higher.
So, you can see that 50 Hz goes easier for the LS.
It resists harder, its impedance grows higher.
How let's go 200 Hz.
Here, 200.
At 200 Hz, the growth is better with Pride. It's more comfortable working at 200 Hz.
It suffers less.
Let's go even further.
We're about to freak out, you know that?
It's a very unpleasant sound. Only one thing's worse. 800 Hz.
At 500 Hz the results have pretty much evened up.
Well, like I said, different speakers operate easier at different frequencies.
So, judging by the impedance is not exactly the fairest thing.
Well, we used to do the same thing before. Guilty as charged.
We used to assume the speaker would be quieter just 'cuz it had higher impedance.
That's wrong.
It depends on the frequency, its volume, the volume it plays into --
at some frequencies, it would be more powerful,
at others - less,
simply 'cuz it'd receive more or less power.
To simplify it,
at 500 Hz, one speaker would do 200 W, another one - 150 W.
For example, a mid-range
can survive playing 500 Hz
while a mid-bass might die there.
Or a mid-bass would survive frequencies fit for it
and a mid-range would die.
Which is precisely what happened at Misha M's test
when he, for some reason, decided to compare a mid-range to a mid-bass.
Okay. What have we seen so far?
I've shown you that frequency is critical for a speaker's normal operation.
Now, let's see...
Well, about 160 Hz is the lower limit
of a mid-range speaker operation.
Let's check the input power.
This is really rough.
170 W went into the Loud Sound at 160 Hz.
The Pride took it easier.
It was about 100-130 W, right?
So, when speaking about max power,
we can find a frequency that's more appropriate for one of the speakers,
and roast it there till it's f*cked up,
But this should've given you the figure scale.
The amp has the potential of putting out 330 W of pure signal @ 4 Ohm.
We can go up to 200 with no specific damage.
I don't feel like going up. My ears tell me
that we're trying to feed a mid-bass some messed up shit.
Trust me, that's not how you listen to it.
Okay, what's next? Gotta turn on some music, right?
And the main part. The thing you've all been waiting for.
Who's louder?
Oh, wait. Let's first run them together
to show them both play music in general...
Well, you can leave it in the middle for now. It's not crucial yet.
Let's check the power response with music on.
It's just we can't measure it. Maybe someone else can.
But it's not supposed to be that high.
Let's now check at the same power input
which resulted in 330 W pure
and 150+ W with the speakers.
And now let's try a music track.
I hope the cam can render it. The speakers' drive was pretty impressive.
What were the figures?
[A]: 40 W.
It's up to 50. Let's set it at peak hold.
Let's check the peaks to go into the speakers.
Well, with music on, Loud Sound doesn't go beyond 75 W.
It resists harder. The impedance grew to 5.1 Ohm.
The Pride's one grew by 0.5 Ohm.
So please, don't say that...
Well, the impedance is the same with both.
I think I heard someone say Loud Sound's impedance was lower
hence it should be louder.
I hope I remember it a bit off.
Well, claims are one thing,
and at work - see for yourselves. Even if we up the input,
Not the power input...
Okay, let's try 50 Hz and a bit of power.
Let's check the impedance at low power input.
Four sharp on Pride, four sharp on LOUD SOUND.
4.1 Ohm.Okay. [A]: That one's 4.1, too.
Let's up the power.
Here. Loud Sound grew more - 5.2 Ohm.
Pride remained at a lower impedance.
So, I hope this myth was just busted.
The impedance needs to be tested at work at different frequencies.
Now we do the following.
We'll cross-check the two at various frequencies
to see who's louder where.
The power input remains the same.
We can do that now, can't we?
What do we have here? 100 Hz.
Loud Sound's off, Pride's on. Show the mic.
I think the video is pretty clear.
And you can take pics.
Okay, let's set the power at - what? 50 W?
Raise.
Seems to be going. Up to 100.
100 W.
68.4 dB.
62 W at 150 Hz.
73.4 dB.
200 Hz, 53 W..
78.3 dB.
800 Hz, 48 W.
76.8 dB.
Shall we go up? Okay, let's try 1200.
We're so gonna freak. Our neighbors will, too.
83.8 dB.
I hear stuff as if through a pipe.
Just so you know, we're freaking out right now.
Not many measure it this high.
It's about 100 W going into the speaker.
That is really - REALLY - loud.
If we turn music on, it would be what everyone listens to.
You gotta remember that it's a 1.5k OGO pushing it hard into a single speaker.
Let's set it at 100 Hz, and then go based on it.
Let's go.
Let's see.
100 W.
66.7 dB.
75-point...
75-point... 75.8 dB. Wait.
Now 1200 Hz.
Oh, I know. The feed must be dropping now.
[A]: Well, yeah.
I knew it was going down. Turns out, the LS was playing at a lower feed.
We made a teeny mistake.
We were operating the Loud Sound at lower feed.
Forgot to turn on the charger.
Let it stay this way.
Just keep in mind the lower feed for the LS.
I'm looking at the last frequency and I'm seeing a drop in the result.
And then I saw the voltage drop.
And now the long-awaited part.
50 Hz here.
Max here. Max here.
HPF off.
LPF off.
Resisting AF, huh?
My God, it stinks here!
The cone is red hot!
Phew! I can't breethe! The lacquer is vicious.
[A]: Kazan lacquer.
Right!
All up, Loud Sound would die sooner.
It shouldn't be a any surprise.
The speaker has a 1.5" coil vs. Pride's 2",
it leads heat off slower.
And today's test showed that it's louder,
it's got the standard size,
the range is wider - that's a subjective opinion, by ear.
And after we ran it through various frequencies
you can see that some are louder, those in the middle range.
Pride's advantage is its surviving properties.
It would be great for systems where you can't control the power.
Those for complete bass-heads.
It's gonna be more forgiving.
But its cone gonna break once it exceeds the drive,
at the lower range or at excessive poewr input
when it all boils down to mechanics.
As for daily systems...
I feel like an idiot when I recommend buying my own speaker.
But I really would buy one.
With a regular amp for 100-150 W
it would give yo a louder and more quality signal.
If you wanna feed it over 200 W continuously
like we did it with the sine.
In this case, at, say, 50 or 100 Hz a disaster is inevitable.
Higher frequencies enable you to go all the way up to 300 W.
I hope you liked the review.
Feel free to leave your comments. And please, don't start a holy war.
I'm doing my best trying to drive car audio away from all that crap,
away from jackasses.
And I always feel sad when I see people leave comments like 'This is crap'
or stuff like 'Pride suckers' or 'Alphard suckers' ryc.
Guys, these are just hardware. It's equipment.
And it's betting better by the day.
I'm shooting this review for you, to answer your questions.
Loud Sound sales didn't just please me.
No one expected them to be that high, not me, for sure.
The speaker turned out to be of great demand.
I hope the next speaker to his the market, our LS-60,
would be just as wanted.
We finally got our workbench.
The opening's pretty soon.
Check out what we got!
Burmester! Ha!
It drives out and has lighting and stuff. We're gonna test it now, too.
Just a reminder. This atelier is designed to operate hi-end cars.
Here's one Lada 2113.
If I'm serious, it's for OEM ot stock audio replacement.
For clean jobs.
Tigran's aelier is still working. he's actually moving to a bigger box.
I hope he makes it okay.
Here are speakers, signed and unsigned.
They are sold as separate items, so you can order either.
The signature is not only on the box but also on the magnet in the back.
My signature. A lot of people ask with it.
We don't charge for it.
So don't be scared to order them. They don't cost more.
Where did these Pride caps come from?
I can't come closer. Why did you put so many cable rolls?
I can't reach Basik, really.
It's just my back hurts. Can you get me tha Basik?
[A]: Which one?
That one.
[B]: Hey yo!
[B]: Long time no s...
Hey, his hat's sliding off.
Is it attached?
[B]: Okay, whatevs.
[B]: Alex said, right? No fighting in the comments.
[B]: But I know you will do that, suckers!
[B]: Yeah, let's argue what's better, Pride or Alphard?
[B]: LOUD SOUND is the best! Capisce?!
How much does this Basik cost?
[A]: 950 rub, I think.
950? Oh, f*ck!
Wow! The hat flew off when he fell.
[B]: Yeah, btw. If you buy two Loud Sound LS-65,
[B]: two pairs, not two speakers --
[B]: I come for free.
[B]: Freaking morons!
[B]: No one wants to buy LS-65,
[B]: no Arnolds, no Solos.
[B]: Y'all know what you gotta buy.
[B]: Buy some brain, you f*cks!
[B]: And if you lack the money for brains you can get some good speakers.
[B]: These are... What are these?
[B]: These are ovals.
[B]: Holy f*ck, that magnet!
What are these?!
[B]: Arty, show 'em!
[B]: Alphard? Again?
[A]: Machete.
[B]: We're never gonna wash that off, are we?
[B]: We don't promote Alphard!
[B]: Alphard's promoting us! Watch it on the Alphard Group's channel.
[B]: There he goes again, righ?
[B]: You seen Vik? Vik the stealer? Cops got him bad again.
[B]: That was staged.
[B]: For those still in line for them brains, it was staged!
[B]: If real cops arrested him, Vik would pee himself.
[B]: And shit, too.
[B]: Vik won't hold a grudge. You saw Vik?
[B]: Freakin' gangist.
- Imma gangist. - Whoa, man...
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