>> Rosemary: ON THIS FRIDAY
NIGHT...
>> YOU WILL STOP ATTACKING THE
SCHOOL.
>> Rosemary: FRUSTRATION,
EXPULSION AND ALLEGATIONS OF
SEXUAL ASSAULT AT A PRESTIGIOUS
TORONTO PRIVATE SCHOOL.
>> THESE EIGHT PEOPLE EXPELLED
DO NOT REPRESENT THE 1100
STUDENTS.
>> Rosemary: WHY POLICE ARE
APPEALING FOR VICTIMS TO COME
FORWARD.
>> Ian: IN CALIFORNIA, HUNDREDS
ARE STILL MISSING AS WILDFIRES
RAGE.
WHY SO MANY PEOPLE COULDN'T GET
OUT IN TIME.
>> I JUST -- I SHAKE MY HEAD.
>> Ian: MISSING WORK BECAUSE
YOU'RE UNDER THE WEATHER?
CANADA'S DOCTORS SAY YOU
SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BRING IN A
SICK NOTE.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL".
>> Rosemary: WE BEGIN WITH THE
GROWING SCANDAL AT A PRIVATE
BOYS' SCHOOL IN TORONTO.
ST. MICHAEL'S COLLEGE WAS ROCKED
THIS WEEK.
POLICE CLASSIFY ONE OF THEM AS
CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.
IT DEPICTS SEXUAL ASSAULT.
BOTH HAVE BEEN SHARED ON SOCIAL
MEDIA AND TODAY WE LEARNED
POLICE ARE INVESTIGATING A THIRD
INCIDENT.
THEY SAY THEY BELIEVE THERE MAY
BE OTHER VICTIMS AND WITNESSES.
AND ARE ENCOURAGING THEM TO COME
FORWARD.
THE SCHOOL HAS ALSO REDOUBLED
ITS EFFORTS, ESPECIALLY IN
REACHING OUT TO PARENTS.
IT HELD A PAIR OF INFORMATION
SESSIONS TODAY, WHERE AS OLIVIA
STEFANOVICH SHOWS US, THE
TURNOUT WAS BIG AND THE EMOTIONS
RAW.
>> Reporter: AN EXTRAORDINARY
SCENE ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
DOZENS OF PARENTS LINING UP
OUTSIDE ST. MICHAEL'S COLLEGE TO
GET ANSWERS AFTER A DIFFICULT
WEEK.
PARENTS WERE VISIBLY UPSET.
>> LEAVE THE BOYS ALONE, YOU GOT
YOUR STORY.
>> ARE YOU NOT CONCERNED FOR
YOUR KIDS?
>> Reporter: WHEN THEY LEFT THE
MEETING WITH SCHOOL
ADMINISTRATORS, THEY LASHED OUT
EVEN MORE.
>> MY SON -- MY SON --
>> Reporter: WHILE DEFENDING
THEIR SCHOOL.
>> YOU WILL STOP ATTACKING THE
SCHOOL.
OUR KIDS ARE GETTING BULLIED BY
OTHER KIDS.
12-YEAR-OLDS, THREATENED BY
OTHER KIDS.
>> THAT'S DISGUSTING.
>> SEXUAL ASSAULT ALLEGATIONS,
AREN'T YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THAT?
>> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE
MEDIA IS DOING TO THE SCHOOL
AROUND THIS INCIDENT.
YOU'RE NOT HELPING.
>> WE'RE CONCERNED HOW THE MEDIA
IS COVERING THE SEXUAL ASSAULT
ALLEGATIONS?
>> WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
YOU.
>> Reporter: ACCORDING TO THE
CANADIAN PRESS, THE FIRST
INCIDENT INVOLVED THE BASKETBALL
TEAM AND A STUDENT WHO WAS
BULLIED AND SOAKED WITH WATER.
THE SECOND INCIDENT INVOLVED THE
FOOTBALL TEAM HOLDING DOWN A
STUDENT AND SEXUALLY ASSAULTING
HIM WITH A BROOM HANDLE.
ALL CAUGHT ON TAPE AND SHARED ON
SOCIAL MEDIA RESULTING IN A
STUNNING WARNING FROM POLICE TO
ERASE ANY COPIES OR FACE CHILD
PORNOGRAPHY CHARGES.
IN ALL, EIGHT STUDENTS HAVE BEEN
EXPELLED.
>> THESE EIGHT PEOPLE THAT GOT
EXPELLED DO NOT REPRESENT THE
1100 STUDENTS.
>> Reporter: LIKE THE PARENTS,
THIS STUDENT WHOSE IDENTITY WE
AGREED TO PROTECT, DEFENDED THE
SCHOOL.
>> THE STUDENT BODY IS A VERY
TIGHT-KNIT BROTHERHOOD.
WE LOVE EACH OTHER.
WE'RE GREAT.
WE'RE A GOOD SCHOOL.
THE PEOPLE HAVE NOT HEARD WHAT
OUR SCHOOL IS REALLY ABOUT.
>> Reporter: BUT THAT WASN'T THE
EXPERIENCE OF KYLE FRASER.
HE SAYS HE LEFT THE COLLEGE IN
2013 BECAUSE OF CONSTANT
BULLYING.
AND THAT'S WHY HE DOESN'T WANT
US TO SHOW HIS FACE.
>> I WAS VERBALLY ABUSED EVERY
DAY THAT I WAS THERE.
AND I FELT LIKE I HAD NO
SUPPORT.
>> Reporter: TODAY, ST.
MICHAEL'S COLLEGE ACKNOWLEDGED
ITS BEEN CRITICIZED FOR TAKING
MORE THAN 24 HOURS TO REPORT THE
ALLEGED SEXUAL ASSAULT TO
POLICE.
BUT NOT A SINGLE PARENT WE SPOKE
TO TODAY RAISED THAT CONCERN.
NO ONE HAD ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO
SAY ABOUT THE SCHOOL OR THE
HANDLING OF THE CRISIS AT ALL.
>> Rosemary: OKAY.
OLIVIA, IT SEEMED OBVIOUSLY
HEATED THERE TODAY WITH THE
PARENTS AND THEIR EXCHANGES WITH
THE MEDIA, WITH YOU.
TELL ME ABOUT WHY THERE SEEMS TO
BE SO MUCH TENSION AROUND IT?
>> Reporter: WELL, ALL THIS
NEGATIVE ATTENTION HAS LED TO
THREATS AGAINST THE COLLEGE.
SO FOR A SECOND DAY IN A ROW,
THERE HAS BEEN A HEAVY POLICE
PRESENCE HERE.
EVEN TONIGHT, I'M JUST IN FRONT
OF THE COLLEGE HERE, THERE ARE
POLICE OFFICERS AROUND.
BECAUSE THERE WAS ANOTHER PARENT
MEETING HERE.
AND SOME OF THE PARENTS ARE NOW
STARTING TO TELL ME THEIR
CHILDREN ARE BEING BULLIED JUST
FOR BEING STUDENTS HERE.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, OLIVIA
STEFANOVICH OUTSIDE OF ST.
MICHAEL'S COLLEGE.
>>> AFTER FACING CRITICISM, ST.
MICHAEL'S RELEASED A TIME LINE
TODAY OF WHAT THEY KNEW AND WHEN
THEY REVEALED IT.
HERE'S SOME OF THAT ALONG WITH
THE OTHER KEY TURNING POINTS IN
THE TUMULTUOUS WEEK.
ON MONDAY MORNING, THE SCHOOL
SAYS IT RECEIVED VIDEO OF AN
INCIDENT IN A BOYS' WASH ROOM
AND NOTIFIED POLICE.
BY THAT EVENING, THEY RECEIVED A
SECOND VIDEO OF AN INCIDENT IN A
LOCKER ROOM.
ON WEDNESDAY, AS THE FIRST MEDIA
REPORTS EMERGED, TORONTO POLICE
ANNOUNCED THEY WERE
INVESTIGATING AN ALLEGED SEXUAL
ASSAULT.
THE SCHOOL RELEASED THE FIRST
PUBLIC STATEMENT AND SAID IT
TURNED OVER THE VIDEO.
ON THURSDAY, POLICE SAID THEY
LEARNED OF THE ALLEGED SEXUAL
ASSAULT FROM MEDIA, NOT THE
SCHOOL.
THE SCHOOL WAS MADE AWARE OF A
THIRD INCIDENT AND THEN NOTIFIED
POLICE.
SO FAR THERE HAS BEEN NO
INFORMATION ABOUT THE THIRD
INCIDENT.
NO DETAILS RELEASED.
OUR SENIOR CORRESPONDENT SUSAN
ORMISTON HAS BEEN TAKING A LOOK
AT ST. MICHAEL'S TO GIVE US A
SENSE OF THE SCHOOL.
>> YEAH, BETTER KNOWN AS ST.
MIKE'S, IT'S OVER 160 YEARS OLD.
STARTED BY ROMAN CATHOLIC
FATHERS.
IT'S A TOP TIER SCHOOL.
ONE OF THE HANDFUL OF BOYS'
SCHOOLS WITH HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.
IT'S A BIG SPORTING SCHOOL.
SOME COME ON SKOL SHISHIPS.
OTHERS PAY $20,000 AND UP FOR
SCHOOL FEES.
IT HAS A GREAT RIVALRY AND A
PROUD ALUMNI.
EARLIER TODAY WE SPOKE TO JOHN
SCHUMAN, AN EDUCATION LAWYER WHO
HANDLED BULLYING CASES.
HE WENT TO ST. MIKE'S AND HE
DESCRIBES IT AS A SCHOOL WITH
LONG TRADITIONS.
>> QUESTIONS AND RITUALS, DON'T
QUESTION THE WAY IT'S DONE, IT
MAKES IT A SCHOOL WHERE THIS
THING COULD HAPPEN.
IF IT HAPPENED BEFORE, KIDS KNEW
IT HAPPENED BEFORE, IT'S WHAT
HAPPENED TO THEM, OR THE SORT OF
THINGS THEY EXPERIENCED, THAT
MADE PEOPLE GREAT, LET'S DO IT,
TOO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS PREYING
ON SOMEONE MORE VULNERABLE, BUT
MAYBE THEY FELT SOMEONE WHO WAS
MORE VULNERABLE, THIS IS A WAY
TO GO AFTER THEM.
OR WE'RE THE A GROUP, YOU'RE THE
B OR C GROUP WE'RE GOING TO
TEACH YOU WHO IS ON TOP.
>> Reporter: IS THAT PARTICULAR
TO BOYS' SCHOOLS?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK IT'S PARTICULAR TO
SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THAT HIGH
PRESSURE AND DRIVEN TO SUCCEED.
YOU'RE THERE WITH CERTAIN
EXPECTATIONS YOU'RE GOING TO ACT
AND BEHAVE AND ACHIEVE CERTAIN
THINGS.
>> Reporter: BECAUSE IT'S A
FIERCELY PROUD SCHOOL.
>> IT IS FIERCELY PROUD AND
PRODUCED A LOT OF GREAT STUDENTS
AND A LOT OF SUCCESS STORIES.
>> Reporter: HE ALSO TALKED
ABOUT DIFFERENT REPORTING
STRUCTURES.
IN SOME PROVINCES PUBLIC SCHOOLS
HAVE STRICT REPORTING PROTOCOL,
BUT IN PRIVATE SCHOOLS, THEY MAY
APPROACH IT DIFFERENTLY.
>> PRIVATE SCHOOLS, IT'S SIMPLE.
IT'S WHAT THE SCHOOL CONTRACT
DO.
IF THE PARENTS CONTRACTED WITH A
SCHOOL WHERE THEY WOULD TREAT
THIS AND RESPOND QUICKLY, THAT'S
WHAT PARENTS CAN EXPECT.
BUT A LOT OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS
DON'T DEAL WITH THIS IN CONTRACT
AND HOW THEY DEAL WITH IT.
THEY MAY INCORPORATE A CODE OF
CONDUCT, BUT IT MAY NOT BE
PROTECTION FOR WEAKER OR
VULNERABLE KIDS IN THE SCHOOL.
>> Rosemary: THESE INCIDENTS,
THEY'RE NOT NEW.
THERE IS HAZING AND BULLYING IS
PART OF SCHOOL LIFE.
>> REMEMBER, McGILL UNIVERSITY
WAS FORCED TO COME CLEAN AND
MAKE CHANGES AFTER A SIMILARLY
VIOLENT ASSAULT ON FRESHMAN
FOOTBALLER TEN YEARS AGO AND
THERE ARE MANY OTHERS WE DON'T
HEAR ABOUT.
TORONTO POLICE SAID THERE ARE
MORE WITNESSES AND VICTIMS,
WHICH RAISES MORE QUESTIONS ON
WHO DID THIS?
WHO SHARED THE VIDEO?
AND WHAT SHOULD BE THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE WHO ARE
BYSTANDERS BUT STAY SILENT?
THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF BIG
QUESTIONS, A LOT OF PARENTS, NOT
JUST AT ST. MICHAEL'S, ARE
STRUGGLING WITH THIS WEEK.
>> Ian: TURNING NOW TO THE
MASSIVE CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES.
STILL RAVAGING PARTS OF THAT
STATE TONIGHT.
MORE THAN 70 PEOPLE ARE
CONFIRMED DEAD.
AND BREAKING IN THE LAST HOUR,
THE LOCAL SHERIFF SAYS MORE THAN
1,000 ARE MISSING, THOUGH SOME
OF THE NAMES ON THE LIST MAY BE
DUPLICATES.
>> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE
THAT WANT ANSWERS.
THEY ARE DEPENDING ON US TO FIND
THEIR LOVED ONES.
>> Ian: BUT AS MUCH AS OFFICIALS
HOPE THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE FOUND
SAFE IN SHELTERS OR WITH FAMILY
OR FRIENDS, NEVER MIND A MUCH
LESS MOBILE SENIOR TRYING TO
ESCAPE IN THE SMOKE AND FLAMES.
CARS, BECAME KILNS AND IN SOME
CASES, TOMBS.
JUST A WEEK AFTER THE FIRE
STARTED, HUNDREDS ARE LISTED AS
MISSING.
>> THIS IS A DYNAMIC LIST.
SOME DAYS THERE MIGHT BE MORE
PEOPLE, SOME DAYS LESS PEOPLE.
>> Reporter: DRIVING ON THIS
COMMUNITY ON THE HILL,
SURROUNDED BY CANYONS YOU CAN
APPRECIATE HOW NARROW THE ROADS
ARE.
HOW STEEP THE TERRAIN IS.
AND WITH CARS STALLING AND
BLOCKING THE ROADS, HOW HARD IT
WOULD HAVE BEEN TO GET OUT.
>> THAT'S WHY AFTER THE LAST
MAJOR FIRE TEN YEARS AGO,
AUTHORITIES CAME UP WITH A NEW
EMERGENCY PLAN.
EVACUATE THE TOWN IN STAGES.
THOSE CLOSEST TO THE DANGER
LEAVING FIRST.
BUT THIS FIRE, THEY SAY, MOVED
TOO QUICKLY.
AND CONTROVERSIALLY OFFICIALS
OPTED NOT TO SEND AN EMERGENCY
WIRELESS ALERT.
IN THIS AREA, CELL SIGNALS ARE
SPOTTY AND ONLY 20% OF THE TOWN
RECEIVED EVACUATION ORDERS.
AND SOME CHOSE TO IGNORE THEM.
ON SOME HOMES, YELLOW NOTICES
INDICATED INSIDE THERE WERE
OCCUPANTS UNWILLING TO LEAVE.
I SPOKE TO ONE MAN WHO DIDN'T
WANT TO APPEAR ON CAMERA, SAID
THIS IS MY HOME.
>> DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, I'M
FINE.
>> Reporter: IT WAS THAT NEED
FOR ISOLATION AND INDEPENDENCE
THAT LED MANY TO PARADISE, BUT
FOR MOST, IT'S COME AS AN
ENORMOUS COST.
>> Ian: AS HUGE AS THE CAMP FIRE
REMAINS, THERE ARE INCREDIBLE
STORIES TO GET IN AND OUT.
HELEN THOMAS WAS ALONE WHEN THE
FLAMES CLOSED IN ON HER HOUSE.
DESPITE SEVERE MOBILITY ISSUES,
SHE SOMEHOW GOT HER WHEELCHAIR
OUTSIDE, CRAWLED INTO IT, AND
WENT LOOKING FOR HELP.
ALL WHILE HOUSES BURNED AND
POWER LINES CAME CRASHING DOWN.
LUCKILY, FIREFIGHTER SCOTT
MacLEAN ARRIVED JUST IN TIME.
>> THERE IS THIS ELDERLY GAL IN
A WHEELCHAIR.
I LOOK CLOSER, THERE IS A PUPPY
IN HER LAP AND A PURSE ON HER
BACK.
I DO NOT KNOW HOW SHE GOT DOWN
TO PENCE ROAD ALIVE.
>> Ian: MacLEAN DROVE HER AND
HER DOG TO SAFETY.
>> Rosemary: TO THE U.K. AND
WHAT IS A TWO-PRONGED ATTACK TO
FEND OFF A GROWING REVOLT,
THERESA MAY IS WORKING BEHIND
THE SOOEVECENES AND IN THE PUBLIC TO
SAVE HER OWN POLITICAL SKIN.
LETTERS OF NO-CONFIDENCE KEEP
PILING UP FROM CONSERVATIVE
M.P.s WHO WANT MAY OUSTED AS
LEADER.
THEY NEED 48 TO TRIGGER A FORMAL
LEADERSHIP CHALLENGE, ALREADY AT
LEAST 23 HAVE MADE THEIR LETTERS
PUBLIC.
THERE IS SPECULATION MORE HAVE
BEEN FILED IN PRIVATE.
ONE BRITISH PAPER SAYS A VOTE
COULD TAKE PLACE AS EARLY AS
NEXT TUESDAY, BUT A KEY
MINISTER, IN FAVOUR OF BREXIT,
THREW MAY A LIFELINE TODAY.
>> DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE
PRIME MINISTER?
>> I ABSOLUTELY DO, I'M LOOKING
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL MY
COLLEAGUES IN PARLIAMENT TO
ENSURE WE GET THE BEST FUTURE
FOR BRITAIN.
>> Rosemary: ON RADIO THIS
MORNING, MAY AGAIN INSISTED THAT
IS EXACTLY WHAT HER PLAN WILL
DO.
>> I BELIEVE THIS IS, TRULY
BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST DEAL
FOR BRITAIN.
>> Rosemary: SO HOW IS IT GOING
DOWN WITH THE BRITISH PUBLIC WHO
DECIDED ALL THIS THE END?
THOMAS DAIGLE TOOK TO THE
STREETS OF LONDON WITH THAT
BREXIT PLAN IN HAND TO ASK
PEOPLE WHAT THEY THINK.
>> Reporter: NO ONE SAID IT
WOULD BE LIGHT READING.
THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT HAS
UPENDED BRITISH POLITICS.
THERESA MAY'S FULLY DETAILED
BREXIT PLAN, APPROVED IN
CABINET.
ALL 585 PAGES OF IT.
IT SURE IS CAUSING A FUSS IN THE
GOVERNMENT, BUT WHAT ABOUT ON
THE STREETS?
HAVE YOU HELD IT TO SEE HOW
HEAVY IT IS?
>> I NEVER DID.
IT'S RIDICULOUS.
>> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK
POLITICIANS KNOW ABOUT WHAT IS
IN HERE?
>> PROBABLY VERY LITTLE.
>> Reporter: HOW DO YOU FEEL THE
PRIME MINISTER IS HANDLING THIS?
>> OH, WELL I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE COULD
HANDLE IT.
>> YOU HEAR ABOUT THE PROS AND
CONS OF THE DETAILS, I THINK SHE
HAS HANDLED HERSELF AMAZINGLY.
>> SHE COULD EXPECT LOYALTY FROM
PARTY MEMBERS, THEY'RE JUST
WAITING TO STICK THE KNIFE IN.
>> Reporter: HOPING TO ESCAPE
THE TORY INFIGHTING, THE PRIME
MINISTER TURNED TO ORDINARY
BRITS ON A CALL-IN SHOW.
>> PRIME MINISTER THERESA MAY
TAKES YOUR CALLS.
>> Reporter: THE FIRST CALLER
DEMANDED SHE QUIT.
>> I RESPECTFULLY ASKING YOU TO
DO THE RIGHT THING AND STAND
DOWN.
>> Reporter: INSTEAD, MAY
PLEDGED THIS.
>> DECISIONS ON THINGS LIKE WHO
CAN COME INTO THE COUNTRY WILL
BE TAKEN BY US HERE IN THE U.K.
AND NOT BY BRUSSELS.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE DEAL
I'VE NEGOTIATED DELIVERS.
>> Reporter: THERE IS NO
QUESTION SHE IS RESILIENT,
FACING DOWN INTERNAL REVOLT TIME
AFTER TIME.
THE BOOK MAKERS HAD STOPPED
TAKING BETS ON HER DEMISE, BUT
THEY SAY THE ODDS ARE SHE COULD
SURVIVE.
>> NEWS OUT OF WESTMINSTER SEEMS
TO SUGGEST IF THERE WAS A VOTE
OF NO CONFIDENCE, SHE MAY SQUEAK
OVER THE LINE.
>> Reporter: HER JOB AND THE
FUTURE OF THE COUNTRY GO
HAND-IN-HAND.
BREXIT WILL SHAPE BRITAIN AND
THE FINAL DEAL WILL DEFINE
BREXIT.
FOOD FOR THOUGHT, INDEED.
THOMAS DAIGLE CBC NEWS, LONDON.
>> SOME OF THE STORIES WE'RE
FOLLOWING TONIGHT.
IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR AN
INTERNATIONAL PACKAGE TO ARRIVE,
YOU MAY HAVE TO KEEP WAITING.
CANADA POST IS ASKING 190
COUNTRIES TO HALT MAILING
SHIPMENTS TO CANADA.
>> WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
THE HOLIDAY SURGE IS QUICKLY
APPROACHING AND WE'RE BACKLOGGED
AT ALL MAJOR FACILITIES.
>> THE COMPANY SAYS IT HAS A
30-DAY BACKLOG AS A RESULT OF
ROTATING STRIKES.
HOPE FOR A RESOLUTION HAD A
SETBACK TODAY.
THE WORKERS' UNION SAID IT WON'T
BE TAKING THE LATEST OFFER TO
ITS MEMBERS.
>> I SEE THE WAY SOME OF MY
PEOPLE GET TREATED AT PRESS
CONFERENCES, IT'S TERRIBLE.
WE'RE SETTING UP A CERTAIN
STANDARD WHICH IS WHAT THE COURT
IS REQUESTING.
>> Ian: PRESIDENT TRUMP IS
VOWING TO CREATE RULES AND
REGULATIONS FOR HOW WHITE HOUSE
REPORTSERS ACT.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT AFTER A FEDERAL
JUDGE ORDERED JIM ACOSTA'S PRESS
PASS TO BE REINSTATED, SAY THE
U.S. PRESIDENT ACTED
INAPPROPRIATELY IN SUSPENDING
IT.
>>> THE C.I.A. CONCLUDED
MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN ORDERED THE
ASSASSINATION OF JAMAL
KHASHOGGI.
MULTIPLE U.S. MEDIA REPORTING
THAT.
THE JOURNALIST WAS KILLED LAST
MONTH IN THE SAUDI CONSULATE IN
ISTANBUL.
SAUDI OFFICIALS HAVE DENIED
INVOLVEMENT IN THE KILLING.
>> Rosemary: THE POT PANEL ON
TWEETS, FOLLOWERS AND MEANINGFUL
CONVERSATIONS.
CAN TWITTER CHANGE ITS IMAGE?
>> Ian: AND IT CELEBRATES 50
YEARS ON THE AIR.
CAROLE OFF ON THE SHOW'S
REMARKABLE MOMENTS.
>> Rosemary: AND WHY CANADA'S
DOCTORS SAY A DOCTOR'S NOTE
SHOULD NOT BE NEEDED.
>
>> Ian: WHEN YOU WERE AT WORK,
WAS SOMEONE NEAR YOU COUGHING?
DOCTORS SAY IT'S BEST FOR
EVERYONE'S HEALTH IF SICK PEOPLE
STAY HOME.
BUT ALL OF THAT TURNED INTO A
POLITICAL CONTROVERSY TODAY IN
ONTARIO.
THE CANADIAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
LASHED OUT AGAINST THE
GOVERNMENT BILL THAT WOULD LET
EMPLOYERS REQUIRE A DOCTOR'S
NOTE WHENEVER A WORKER WANTS TO
TAKE A SICK DAY.
THE CBC CATHERINE CULLEN LOOKS
AT WHO IS FIGHTING THE CHANGE
AND WHO WELCOMES IT.
>> IT'S A PAIN IN THE NECK TO
HAVE TO DO IT.
>> Reporter: THIS DOCTOR DOESN'T
LIKE SICK NOTES OR THE PROPOSED
LAW THAT MEANS SHE COULD BE
WRITING MORE OF THEM.
>> WHAT THAT WILL DO IS INCREASE
THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS I HAVE TO
SEE IN THE DAY TO PROVIDE THE
WORK NOTES.
ON TOP OF IT, THOSE PATIENTS MAY
BE EXPOSED TO DISEASES IN MY
OFFICE WHILE WAITING FOR A NOTE.
>> Reporter: ABOUT A YEAR AGO
WHEN ONTARIO LIBERALS PASSED A
LAW THAT WOULD HIKE THE MINIMUM
WAGE, THEY INCLUDED A PROVISION
THAT ENTITLES EVERYONE TO 10
PERSONAL LEAVE DAYS, INCLUDING
TWO PAID SICK DAYS AND SAID
EMPLOYEES CAN'T ASK FOR A
DOCTOR'S NOTE.
THE FORD GOVERNMENT IS REVERSING
THE LIBERAL'S PLAN.
>> IT'S A JOB-KILLER.
>> Reporter: WITH A PROBUSINESS
LAW THAT WOULD ELIMINATE PAID
SICK DAYS AND ALLOW EMPLOYERS TO
ASK FOR DOCTORS' NOTES IF IT'S
WARRANTED.
>> I SHAKE MY HEAD.
>> Reporter: TODAY, A NATIONAL
DOCTOR GROUP HAS COME OUT
AGAINST THE MOVE.
>> I THINK THE REINSTATEMENT OF
SICK NOTES PUTS AN UNNECESSARY
BURDEN ON PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY
SICK AND IT RAISES THE RISK OF
SPREADING COLDS AND FLU.
>> Reporter: BUT SOME EMPLOYER
GROUPS CALLED FOR THE CHANGES
SAYING THE SICK DAYS WERE BEING
ABUSED.
IN A LETTER TO THE FORD
GOVERNMENT, THE RETAIL COUNCIL
OF CANADA SAID OUR MEMBERS ARE
SEEING SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE THAT
THE TWO PAID PERSONAL EMERGENCY
LEAVE DAYS ARE BEING WIDELY
TREATED AS FLOATER DAYS OFF.
DE FACTO VACATION DAYS.
THIS LABOUR LAWYER APPLAUDS
GIVING EMPLOYERS THE OPTION OF
ASKING FOR A NOTE.
>> PEOPLE WHO DESERVE THE
BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT GET THE
BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
BECAUSE THE EMPLOYERS DON'T WANT
TO PAY FOR SICK NOTES.
>> Reporter: ONTARIO'S ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT MINISTER DIDN'T HAVE
ANY SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO THE
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION'S CONCERNS,
BUT A SPOKESPERSON REITERATED
THAT SICK NOTES ARE A WORKFORCE
AND ATTENDANCE MANAGEMENT TOOL.
A FINAL VOTE TO TURN IT INTO THE
LAW NEXT WEEK.
>> Ian: AS PART OF THE CAMPAIGN,
THE CMA COMMISSIONED A SURVEY.
IT SUGGESTED IF THE LAW REQUIRES
DOCTOR'S NOTE, 80% OF THE
EMPLOYEES WOULD GO TO WORK SICK.
UP NEXT ON "THE NATIONAL", THE
MARVEL UNIVERSE LOST A GIANT
THIS WEEK.
STAN LEE, ANDREW AND THE POP
PANEL ON HIS LEGACY.
>> Rosemary: AND CBC RADIO "AS
IT HAPPENS", TURNED 50.
[ * ]
>> Rosemary: THOSE ARE MY
FAVOURITE, THOSE GUYS THERE.
LISTENERS DOING THEIR BEST
VERSION OF THE CLASSIC THEME
SONG.
WE'LL GO BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT
FIRST...
>> IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, THE
KILOGRAM WAS REDEFINED TODAY.
THIS MOMENT WAS HEAVY WITH
SIGNIFICANCE.
THE WORLD REFERENCE FOR THE
KILOGRAM CHANGED.
THE RESULT OF A UNANIMOUS VOTE
BY REPRESENTATIVES FROM 60
COUNTRIES.
>> CANADA?
[Speaking French]
OUI.
>> CANADA COULDN'T CONTAIN HIS
GLEE.
>> I WAS HONOURED TO REPRESENT
CANADA.
I GOT TO BE THE DELEGATE FOR
CANADA TO CAST THE VOTE.
IT WAS A BIG DEAL AND I LIKED IT
VERY MUCH.
>> THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF A SYSTEM
WE ALL RELY ON.
>> EVERY DAY LIVING WOULD BE IN
A STATE OF CHAOS IF WE DIDN'T
HAVE RELIABLE UNITS OF
MEASUREMENT.
>> THE OLD KILOGRAM, THE
INTERNATIONAL PROTOTYPE FOR MORE
THAN A 100 YEARS, IT'S MADE OUT
OF PLATINUM.
IT'S ACTUALLY NOT VERY
INTERESTING LOOKING BECAUSE IT'S
A LUMP OF METAL.
>> Rosemary: FOR SCIENCE, A HUNK
OF METAL IS BY NOW A PRETTY
CRUDE REFERENCE POINT.
THE NEW KILOGRAM IS BASED ON THE
FEATURE OF QUANTUM PHYSICS KNOWN
AS PLANK'S CONSTANT.
BUT NOW, NO MATTER WHERE YOU
ARE, WITH THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT,
YOU WILL GET AN ASTONISHINGLY
ACCURATE REFERENCE KILO EVERY
TIME.
>> THE GOOD NEWS FOR CONSUMERS
OR ALL OF US, THAT THE MASS
UNIT, THE SIZE OF THE KILOGRAM
IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
>> Rosemary: IT WON'T CHANGE
ANYTHING NEXT TIME YOU'RE AT THE
GROCERY STORE, BUT FOR SCIENCE
AND TECH, MEASURING ACCURATELY
WILL BE A BIG DEAL.
>> MAYBE, PHARMACEUTICAL, NANO
TECHNOLOGY, MICRO ELECTRONIC
DEVICES.
IT'S A STRONG IMPROVEMENT FOR
THE EXISTING SCIENCE AND A
GATEWAY TO ALL THE SCIENCE WE'RE
GOING TO NEED FOR THE
FACING A RECKONING.
TWO OF THE BIGGEST Facebook AND
TWITTER ARE TRYING FIX THEIR
PROBLEM.
JACK DORSEY SAID THAT USERS
SHOULDN'T BE OBSESSING ABOUT
THEIR FOLLOWING ACCOUNT.
>> TWITTER HAS A BRANDING
PROBLEM.
I'M SARAH BOESVELD, WRITER AT
"CHATELAINE".
I'M BEE QUAMMIE.
I'M DONNOVAN BENNETT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MEANINGFUL A
CONVERSATION CAN BE WITH 240
CHARACTERS.
>> ALL OF THIS IS MISSING THE
POINT.
PEOPLE FIXATED ON THE FOLLOWER
COUNT IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
>> THE PROBLEM IS, TWITTER HAS
BECOME THE PLACE PEOPLE GO TO
VENT AND TO SHARE.
>> HELLO, THERE.
I WILL BE THE POOR MAN IAN
HANOMANSING WITH THE POD PANEL.
THAT IS STILL RICH.
JUST SO YOU KNOW.
WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS A LOT OF
TOPICS.
YOU SAW IN THE INTRODUCTION.
AND I'LL START WITH YOU, JACK
DORSEY SUGGESTING THAT TWITTER,
THE NUMBER OF FOLLOWERS YOU HAVE
DOESN'T, OR SHOULDN'T MATTER.
IS HE WRONG?
>> I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF HEE
WRONG.
I'M PROBABLY WRONG BECAUSE I'M
GUILTY AS CHARGED.
>> Andrew: YOU'RE WATCHING THE
NUMBERS?
I'M SURE, DONOVAN BENNETT.
BUT NO, WHEN I GET NOT SO NICE
THINGS ON TWITTER, I'M SURE IT
HAPPENS TO YOU AS A MINORITY, AS
A WOMAN AND A MINORITY, YOU HAVE
IT DOUBLY AS BAD, I LOOK AND
SAY, HOW MANY FOLLOWERS DO YOU
HAVE?
THAT PSYCHOLOGY IS BAD,
>> OR IF YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH
NOT RESPONDING?
>> EXACTLY.
BECAUSE THE OTHER PLATFORMS I
DON'T THINK INSTAGRAM HAS IT THE
SAME WAY.
IT'S MORE JUST AN ISSUE WITH
TWITTER AND THE AMOUNT OF
FOLLOWERS AND THE FACT THAT YOU
CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF FOLLOWERS.
>> Andrew: JACK DORSEY IS NOT
THE ONLY ONE.
KANYE WEST SAYS WE SHOULD BE
ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOCIAL
MEDIA WITHOUT HAVING TO SHOW HOW
MANY FOLLOWERS OR LIKES WE HAVE.
>> HOPEFULLY.
>> Andrew: BUT LET ME PRESENT
EXHIBIT B, KIM KARDASHIAN SAYING
THIS.
AMEN TO THIS.
[LAUGHTER].
>> HER BUSINESS IS HER
FOLLOWERS.
DOES SHE HAVE ANOTHER SKILL?
THAT IS SANCTIMONYEOUS FROM
THEM.
>> I AGREE WITH WHAT KANYE SAID,
AND IT'S SURPRISING BECAUSE IT'S
THE FIRST TIME I AGREED, BUT I
AGREE THAT IT WOULD GIVE A
DIFFERENT FEEL TO, NOT JUST
TWITTER, BUT SOCIAL MEDIA IN
GENERAL IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS
BECAUSE OF THE VALIDITY WE GIVE
TO CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE TAKE AWAY
FROM PEOPLE.
ACROSS TWITTER, INSTAGRAM,
ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA IN GENERAL,
THERE IS THIS BURGEONING
DEFINITION OF THE MICRO
INFLUENCER.
THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MAYBE
10,000 FOLLOWERS, THEY'RE NOT UP
IN THE 100,000 FOLLOWERS, BUT
FROM A BRAND OF MARKETING
STANDPOINT, THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE
ONES THAT GET BETTER ENGAGEMENT
AND THEY'RE SEEN AS MORE
TRUSTWORTHY AND VALID TO THEIR
AUDIENCE.
PEOPLE WILL PAY ATTENTION
BECAUSE IT'S KIM KARDASHIAN.
THEY MIGHT REACH OUT TO ME, IF I
SHARE SOMETHING, MY FOLLOWERS
MIGHT BE MORE ENGAGED THAN KIM
KARDASHIAN BECAUSE THEY TRUST ME
MORE.
BUT KIM AGREEING TO KANYE'S
POINT, IT'S INTERESTING SHE DID
THAT ON TWITTER, BUT WOULD YOU
GO ON INSTAGRAM NOW, WHERE YOU
MAKE THE BULK OF YOUR MONEY AND
SAY THE FOLLOWER COUNTS ARE
RIDICULOUS ON INSTAGRAM.
SO IT'S FUNNY.
>> Andrew: WITH THE CONCEPT OF
MICRO INFLUENCERS I DON'T FEEL
SO BAD.
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THIS?
ANOTHER QUESTION I SUPPOSE I
WONDER, IS WHETHER ALL OF THIS
FIXATION ON FOLLOWER COUNTS AND
TWITTER, WHETHER THAT IS GETTING
AT WHAT TWITTER'S BIGGEST
PROBLEM IS?
>> YEAH, I THINK TWITTER HAS
DODGED WHAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM
IS, WHICH IS HARASSMENT AND THE
WAY IT ALLOWS CERTAIN PEOPLE TO
KEEP BEING EXTREMELY DAMAGING
ACTORS ONLINE AND PRETENDING TO
HAVE SOME KIND OF CODE OF
CONDUCT AND THEN IGNORING IT.
DEPENDING ON WHO YOU ARE.
SAY YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT OF
UNITED STATES, AND CONSISTENTLY
BREAKING THE CODE OF CONDUCT.
BUT IF YOU'RE A WOMAN ONLINE, IT
CAN BE HORRIBLE FOR YOU.
SO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LEAVE
THE PLATFORM BECAUSE OF
TOXICITY.
TWITTER SAYING WE'RE CONCERNED
ABOUT YOUR SOCIAL FRAGILITY,
YOUR SELF-ESTEEM AS KANYE IS
TALKING ABOUT, BUT AT THE END OF
THE DAY WE BUILT THIS STRUCTURE
AROUND FOLLOWING.
THE TRIBALISM IS BAKED IN.
AND THE POLARIZATION IS WHAT
THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY ON, OR
THEIR AUDIENCE ON.
SUPERFICIAL TO ME TO TALK ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, BEING CONCERNED ABOUT
THE FOLLOWERS.
>> Andrew: ON THAT POINT, HOW DO
YOU FIX THE PROBLEM GIVEN WHAT
TWITTER IS?
>> YOU MENTIONED DONALD TRUMP.
HE GOT A BLUE CHECK MARK.
THEY'RE COSIGNING THE FACT THAT
HE HARASSES, GIVES
MISINFORMATION ON THE PLATFORM,
BUT HE DRIVES MASSIVE TRAFFIC TO
THE PLATFORM.
WHEN EHE USES IT, IT BECOMES
NEWS.
>> Andrew: I WANT TO MOVE ON
BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE
EXISTENTIAL CRISIS.
THERE IS ANOTHER ONE WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S
DIFFERENT.
* ANGEL HAIR
* AND ICE CREAM CASTLES IN THE
AIR *
* IT'S ILLUSIONS I RECALL
* I REALLY DON'T KNOW CLOUDS AT
ALL *
>> I DON'T BELONG HERE!
I'M NOT A TOY!
>> Andrew: THIS IS THE POINT
WHERE ALL OF THE VIEWERS TURN TO
SAY AND WHAT ARE THEY TALKING
ABOUT?
SO THIS IS TEASER FOR "TOY STORY
4" THAT JUST CAME OUT THIS WEEK.
THE MOVIE COMES OUT NEXT SUMMER.
SO THAT WAS FORKY.
HE IS A SPORK.
KIND OF TURNED ART CRAFT, WHO
CLEARLY IS A TOY, BUT THAT
DOESN'T WANT TO BE A TOY.
DOESN'T THINK HE'S A TOY.
BUT THE OTHER TOYS THINK HE'S A
TOY AND WANT TO TAKE THEM ON TOY
ADVENTURES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A KIDS'
MOVIE, BUT BOY, WHAT A PREMISE
FOR OUR TIME.
A TIME WHERE WE'RE ON
ASSISTANTLY TRYING -- CONSTANTLY
TRYING TO DEFINE EVERYTHING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LABELS.
WHAT IS AN ASYLUM-SEEKERS?
WHAT IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN?
WHAT IS A MALE OR FEMALE?
ARE THOSE THINGS IMPORTANT?
SO WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO
CONSTANTLY DEFINE THINGS, SO I
LOOKED AT THAT AND THOUGHT, ARE
THEY TRYING TO TELL ME
SOMETHING?
PIXAR TRYING TO HAVE A BIGGER
STATEMENT FOR THE PARENTS.
THE MOVIES ARE GREAT BECAUSE THE
PARENTS GET SOMETHING FROM IT
AND THE KIDS ARE WATCHING
CARTOONS.
>> Andrew: IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE
HAPPY THEY'RE TAKING IT ON.
SARA, YOU'RE A NEW MOM.
DO YOU SEE THIS AS A SPRINGBOARD
FOR CONVERSATIONS?
>> I THINK SO.
I THINK IT CAN BE ENJOYED BY THE
CHILD, BUT CHILDREN ARE SPONGES
AND THEY TAKE IN SO MUCH AROUND
THEM.
TO HAVE A FUN ANIMATED
CHARACTERS GRAPPLE WITH DEEP
COMPLEX THINGS MIGHT SEEM
COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT IF "TOY
STORY 4" SUCCEEDS IN MAKING A
FUN STORY LINE AND MAKING IT
RELATABLE TO KIDS AND PROMPTING
CONVERSATION, HOW DO YOU THINK
THE SPORK FEELS IN THIS WITH MR.
POTATO HEAD AND THE ROBOT?
I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN THAT.
I THINK THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
>> Andrew: I'M SURE THERE ARE
PEOPLE THINKING, THEY ARE TAKING
THIS DARN SERIOUSLY.
WHAT WE SAW IN THE TRAILER.
BUT WHAT JUMPED OUT AT YOU?
>> WHAT JUMPED OUT TO ME,
HOLIDAYS ARE COMING, I'M
THINKING OF GIFT LISTS.
JUST THE FACT THAT WHAT I
LEARNED WITH A 4-YEAR-OLD, IS
THAT YOU CAN BUY THEM THE MOST
EXPENSIVE TOY, AND THEY WILL
WANT TO PLAY WITH THE FORK.
THEY WILL WANT TO PLAY WITH THE
BOX.
SO IT'S A GOOD REMINDER, YOU
KNOW, MAYBE I DON'T NEED TO
SPEND A TON OF MONEY.
LET'S GET FORKS AND BENDY
STRAWS.
>> I BET YOU THEY'LL BE
RETAILING THE SPORK, $30.
>> [LAUGHTER]
>>
>> Andrew: I DO WANT TO STAY ON
THIS THEME OF THINGS THAT ARE
MAYBE OOSTENSIBLY FOR KIDS, BUT
THE WORLD LOST ONE OF THEIR
GIANTS.
STAN LEE, HE WAS 95.
HE LEFT BEHIND LEGENDS.
CHARACTERS HE CREATED.
SPIDERMAN, THE AVENGERS.
WE THOUGHT A FITTING WAY TO
CLOSE WOULD BE TO SHARE WITH THE
CREATION THAT WE MOST IDENTIFIED
WITH.
THIS WILL BE AN INTERESTING
CONVERSATION.
>> WELL, I'M GOING TO COME UP
WITH, I'M NAIVE ABOUT THE COMIC
WORLD.
SO TO ME, I WAS LIKE THE
INCREDIBLE HULK FOR ME.
ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M HANGRY AND I
NEED A SANDWICH.
I CAN GET IN THE BEAST.
YOU MENTION TO ME HAVING A
CHILD, I HAVE TO GET INTO BEAST
MODE THERE A LITTLE BIT.
>> Andrew: DO YOU?
>> FOR ME, I THINK MY MAIN PICK
IS STORM.
I WAS TAKEN ABACK THERE WAS A
BLACK GIRL WITH ALL THE OTHER
GIRLS WITH THE SUPER POWERS.
I THOUGHT I COULD GO OUTSIDE AND
CONTROL THE RAIN.
>> WHAT HAVE YOU GOT?
>> BLACK PANTHER.
>> I DON'T KNOW, THAT BLAZER.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY --
>> IF I HAVE TO PICK ONE, I
THOUGHT ABOUT THIS LONG AND HARD
AND I THOUGHT DAREDEVIL.
THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF RISK
DOING NATIONAL TELEVISION.
SO HEY.
>> SO YOU'RE WEARING A CAPE NEXT
TIME [LAUGHTER].
>> Andrew: ALL RIGHT.
THANKS SO MUCH GUYS.
>> Ian: WHY DO YOU THINK THEY
ANDREW WOULD PICK SPIDERMAN?
AHEAD, THE LITERARY AWARDS ARE
HANDED OUT.
WHY MORE CANADIAN WRITERS ARE
WALKING AWAY FROM THE INDUSTRY?
>> PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE FAMILY
TO ALL CBC STATIONS AND I
AFFILIATED STATIONS, THIS IS AT
IT HAPPENS TT.
>> Ian: THAT WAS THE TAPE OF "AS
IT HAPPENS".
FOR GENERATIONS THEY'VE TURNED
TO THE SHOW.
ITS HOST OVER THE YEAR FROM
BARBARA FRUM, ARE HOUSEHOLD
NAMES.
THE PROGRAMME TURNS 50.
WE JOIN CAROLE OFF FOR A LOOK
BEHIND THE SCENES.
>> FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, I SAY
THIS IS A KICK ASS SHOW WITH A
BIG HEART.
>> WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING ON
THE SHOW?
>> WORKING WITH PEOPLE, "AS IT
HAPPENS", I'M SURE EVERY
GENERATION HAD THIS, BUT THEY'RE
SO SMART.
SO FUNNY.
THERE IS A GRADE 5 DEFAULT.
IF THERE IS A FART JOKE,
EVERYBODY IS FIGHTING EACH OTHER
TO HAVE IT.
>> THE FIRST SHOW IN 1968, IT'S
REALLY WEIRD TO LISTEN TO.
>> HERE WE GO WITH "AS IT
HAPPENS".
>> IT WAS A ROLLING SHOW ACROSS
COUNTRY.
SO IT LASTED I THINK 6-7 HOURS.
IT SOUNDED LIKE EVERYBODY WAS
STONED AND SMOKING WHATEVER.
>> I WAS A STUDENT AT UNIVERSITY
AND I CAME ACROSS THIS SOUND.
THESE VOICES.
THIS WOMAN.
I LATER KNEW AS BARBARA FRUM.
>> SHE WAS CHEEKY AND PUSHING
QUESTIONS AND I DIDN'T KNOW YOU
WERE ALLOWED TO DO THAT,
ESPECIALLY AS A WOMAN.
IF SOMEONE SAID ONE DAY YOU'RE
GOING TO LIVE ON MARS, I WOULD
HAVE SAID THAT IS PROBABLE.
IF SOMEONE SAID YOU'RE GOING SIT
IN THAT CHAIR AND BE THAT
PERSON.
I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WAS
THE MOST HYSTERICAL THING I EVER
HEARD.
>> I THINK IT ALWAYS HAS TO BE
INTIMATE IN A WAY.
>> CHERYL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M
SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.
>> YOU HAVE TO BE THE MOMENT AND
JUST CONNECT WITH THAT PERSON,
WHOEVER THEY ARE, WHATEVER
THEY'RE DOING AND BE WITH THEM
AND CREATE THAT SENSE THERE IS
NOBODY ELSE BUT US TALKING.
>> MY ALL-TIME FAVOURITE
INTERVIEW WAS THIS MAN WHO
BROUGHT HIS DONKEY TO COURT.
I SAID WHY DID YOU BRING YOUR
DONKEY TO COURT.
HE SAID I WANTED THE COURT TO
HAVE A GOOD LOOK AT MY ASS.
>> MY ASS IS ABOUT 300 POUNDS
AND IT'S THREE AND A HALF FEET
TALL.
AND, UM, MY ASS IS KIND OF
FURRY.
>> TO ME, IT WAS -- IT WAS SO
HARD TO DO AND I STILL LAUGH
WHEN I THINK OF HOW TENSE THAT
WAS.
>> THERE ARE A GROUP OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE PERFORMING CPR ON A
GENTLEMAN AT THE WAR MEMORIAL.
>> WE WERE WATCHING ON THAT DAY.
WE WERE ABLE LATE IN THE DAY TO
TALK TO BARBARA WALTER.
SHE WAS ONE OF THE GROUP THAT
WENT TO TRY TO BE WITH HIM.
SHE WAS HOLDING HIS HAND AND
TALKING TO HIM.
>> I ACTUALLY TRIED TO SPEAK TO
HIM THE ENTIRE TIME.
>> WHAT DID YOU SAY TO HIM?
>> I TOLD HIM HE WAS, UM -- I
TOLD HIM HE WAS LOVED AND THAT
HE WAS BRAVE.
AND THAT HE WAS A GOOD MAN.
AND I SAID, JUST THINK OF WHAT
YOU WERE DOING WHEN THIS
HAPPENED, JUST THINK, YOU WERE
STANDING AT THE CENOTAPH, YOU
WERE HONOURING OTHERS.
>> I FORGOT COMPLETELY THERE
WERE ALL THESE PEOPLE LISTENING.
I WAS JUST HEARING THIS WOMAN
WHO HAD ALL THIS HEART AND HAD
BEEN IN A MOMENT -- AND THANK
GOD SHE WAS THE ONE THERE,
BECAUSE I THINK OF HOW MUCH
HUMANITY SHE BROUGHT TO THAT
MOMENT.
>> HAPPY 50TH ANNIVERSARY, "AS
IT HAPPENS".
>> Rosemary: LOVE THAT SHOW.
MANY ANNIVERSARY YOU GUYS.
MONDAY NIGHT, ONE OF THESE FIVE
CANADIAN AUTHORS WILL BE
$100,000 RICHER.
THE SCOTIABANK PRIZE IS BEING
HANDED OUT IN TORONTO.
THE BIGGEST AWARD FOR FICTION IN
THIS COUNTRY AND A SURE FIRE WAY
TO SELL BOOKS.
FOR THOSE NOT ON THE SHORT LIST,
IT'S GETTING TOUGHER.
>> Reporter: LITERARY AWARD
SEASON.
A DIZZYING ARRAY OF PARTY WHERE
WINE FLOWS AND MAJOR CASH PRIZES
ARE GIVEN.
KATHY PAGE, WHO HAS BEEN WRITING
FOR 30 YEARS AND BEEN UP FOR BIG
PRIZES BEFORE, WAITS WITH BATED
BREATH.
>> MY HUSBAND HAD TO GIVE UP
WORK FOR HEALTH REASONS, SO IT
WOULD SAVE ME FROM FINANCIAL
EMERGENCY.
>> THE WINNER OF THE 2018 PRIZE
IS --
>> Reporter: FORTUNATELY, SHE
WON THE $50,000 ROGERS WRITERS
TRUST FICTION PRIZE.
THESE GLITTERING PARTIES AND
MAJOR PRIZE MONEY MAY LEAD YOU
TO BELIEVE THAT CANADIAN WRITERS
ARE DOING PRETTY WELL FOR
THEMSELVES.
ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH NAME
RECOGNITION.
BUT THAT'S FAR FROM THE TRUTH.
>> CHARLES FORAN.
>> CHARLES FORAN HAS ORDER OF
CANADA AND HAS WRITTEN 11 BOOKS,
INCLUDING THE BEST SELLING
BIOGRAPHY OF MORDECAI RICHLER.
HE TALKED ABOUT WHY HE HAD TO
QUIT WRITING FULL-TIME.
>> IT TOOK FIVE YEARS TO WRITE
THAT BOOK.
IT WAS LIKED.
IT WAS AWARDED HEAVILY.
THESE PRIZES.
AND EVEN THAT, IF YOU ADD IT UP,
IT DOESN'T ADD UP TO THE INCOME
OF A MIDDLE TIER BANKER FOR ONE
YEAR.
>> YOU MAY THINK, WELL, WRITERS
HAVE ALWAYS BEEN POOR, BUT
ACCORDING TO THE WRITERS UNION
OF CANADA RECENT SURVEY OF
MEMBERS, NEVER QUITE -- THIS
POOR.
THEY MAKE 70% LESS THAN AND 27%
LESS THAN THREE YEARS AGO.
SOME OF THE FACTORS BEHIND THE
TREND, NEW COPY RIGHT LAWS ALLOW
THEM TO COPY WORK WITHOUT
PAYING.
FEWER PUBLISHING HOUSES.
THERE IS ALSO FEWER FREELANCE
MAGAZINE ASSIGNMENTS THAT USED
TO SUPPLEMENT INCOME.
THE REPERCUSSIONS CAN BE FAR
REACHING.
>> WE'RE SEEING AUTHORS LEAVE
THE INDUSTRY AND THAT IS THE
WORST IMPACT.
IF THERE ARE FEWER AUTHORS,
THERE ARE FEWER VOICES, FEWER
STORIES AND THAT IMPACTS THE
READERS.
>> STILL, WRITERS LIKE THOSE
ATTENDING THIS EVENT ARE NOT
GOING DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT.
>> A LOT OF MY INCOME COMES
THROUGH E BOOK SALES, THROUGH
CONVENTION APPEARANCES AND
THROUGH CAMPAIGN.
SO I THINK THAT ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT AUTHORS IN CANADA
ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, IS TRYING
TO LIKE BROADEN OUR REACH, MAKE
SURE WE'RE DIVERSIFYING OUR
SOURCES OF INCOME.
>> Reporter: GETTING CREATIVE TO
SOLVE A CRISIS FACING ONE OF THE
OLDEST CREATIVE INDUSTRIES.
DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Rosemary: THIS YEAR'S GILLER
PRIZE WILL BE ANNOUNCED MONDAY
NIGHT ON CBC TELEVISION.
I GET TO GO AND INTERVIEW THE
WINNER, LUCKY ME.
YOU CAN WATCH IT 8:00 P.M.
>> Ian: UP NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL", IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
A RELAXING HOLIDAY FOR A COUPLE
FROM B.C. IN PARADISE,
CALIFORNIA.
BUT WHEN THE WILDFIRE TORE
THROUGH THE TOWN, THEY ADJUSTED
THEIR PLANS.
>> IT FELT LIKE THE RIGHT THING
TO DO, TO COME AND HELP.
IF WE COULD JUST HELP IN SOME
SMALL WAY TO SHOW SOME LOVE TO
THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST
EVERYTHING.
>> Ia
>> Ian: WHEN A BRITISH COLUMBIA
COUPLE PLANNED THEIR VACATION
FOR PARADISE IN MID-NOVEMBER
DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD LOOK LIKE
THIS, SPENDING THEIR DAYS IN AN
EVACUATION CENTRE OF A WAL-MART
PARKING LOT.
WHEN THE FIRE TORE THROUGH THE
COMMUNITY AND BURNED DOWN THEIR
AIR BNB, DESTINY AND PAUL KLEIN
DECIDED TO FLY INTO THE TOWN
ANYWAY.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN
THEY JUST WANTED TO HELP.
HOW THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT IS
OUR "MOMENT."
>> WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE
GOING TO DO WHEN WE GOT HERE.
WE KNEW WE WANTED TO HELP.
WE SHOWED UP AND SAID, HI, CAN
WE HELP?
WE LIVE IN PENTICTON, B.C.
WE'VE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF
WILDFIRES.
WE COULD 'EMPATHIZE THERE.
WE SERVED 500QUESADILLAS.
BOUGHT A CARSEAT FOR A LITTLE
GIRL.
IT FELT LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO
DO, TO COME AND HELP.
IT COMES NATURALLY AS A
CANADIAN.
IT'S THE SPIRIT OF OUR CULTURE.
ONE GUY NAMED CHARLIE, THIS WILL
PROBABLY STICK WITH ME FOREVER.
HE WAS TRYING TO GET BACK IN TO
FIND HIS MOM.
YOU CAN BE ANYTHING YOU WANT IN
THIS WORLD.
BUT BE KIND.
WE'RE ALL JUST HUMAN.
BORDERS SEPARATE US, BUT WE'RE
ONE, YOU KNOW?
>> Ian: WE TRACKED THEM DOWN.
WE ASKED THEM TO SPEAK US TO.
THIS IS THE PERFECT ANTIDOTE TO
THAT STORY YESTERDAY OF THE
COUPLE AND THE OTHER GUY THAT
FAKED A STORY OF HELP TO MAKE
MONEY ON GOFUNDME.
>> Rosemary: AND DESTINY SAID
SHE HAS NOT HUGGED AS MANY
PEOPLE IN HER LIFE AS SHE HAS IN
THE LAST FEW DAYS AND THAT IT'S
CHANGED HER PERSPECTIVE ON LIFE.
IT'S A SIGN YOU ARE DOING GOOD.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 16.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND, IAN, AND
EVERYBODY ELSE.
>> Ian: YOU, TOO, GOOD NIGHT.
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