This is Couples Court With the Cutlers.
This is a case of Massey vs. White.
Uh, you've only been dating for a while.
You actually met on Facebook,
but you're here because of allegations of cheating.
Ms. Massey, why have you brought your boyfriend to court?
I suspect that he is cheating on me with my aunt.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
JUDGE DANA: Your blood relative?
Blood relative.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
JUDGE DANA: Cheating with him?
JUDGE DANA: How do you feel about that?
DESIREE: I'm hurt, I'm disrespected.
(STAMMERS) Uh, I'm...
(CHUCKLES)
I'm lost for words, honestly,
on both their parts. I don't know...
I don't know how I feel. Um...
It's a bunch of emotions all mixed into one, pretty much.
And this is a man you love...
DESIREE: Yes.
And I presume you love your aunt.
DESIREE: Oh, yeah.
We've been close all our lives. (CHUCKLES)
JUDGE DANA: I can't imagine what you're going through.
Can you tell me since you've figured this out
or start to believe this is going on, how you've been feeling?
DESIREE: Well, I've been real edgy lately, that's for sure.
My emotions are, like, in a bag,
and my heart's, like, shaking 'em up every once in a while,
and just throwing one out there occasionally. (CHUCKLES)
JUDGE DANA: Wow. Wow.
Yeah.
Mr. White, what do you hope to prove today?
I'm here to prove today that I'm not cheating on Desiree with her aunt.
JUDGE KEITH: So, do you understand why she feels this way?
Why she has these thoughts in her head?
WILLIAM: Yes, I do.
JUDGE KEITH: But you wanna prove that she's wrong.
Yes.
Ms. Massey, what does this relationship mean to you?
A lot, actually. I've never felt this way about anybody.
The night we met, it was like an instant connection.
We instantly felt comfortable together.
And if it turns out that he's cheating on me with her,
it's gonna crush me. I'm gonna be devastated.
Are you saying that, potentially, you would lose him
and your relationship with your aunt?
Oh, yeah. They're both gone.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
JUDGE DANA: Wow.
So, up until now, is he the best relationship that you've had?
Yeah, for the most part.
JUDGE DANA: Except for this one little issue, right?
Right.
JUDGE KEITH: And you don't wanna throw that away, do you?
No, not if I don't have to. No.
And you surely don't want to throw
your blood relationship away.
No, me and Cassie have been literally connected at the hips since birth.
We're only 11 months apart, roughly.
And she's younger than me.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
And so, I've always, I've always had her, she's always had me.
We've never really needed anybody else.
But, obviously, she does.
Why would you think that your aunt is sleeping with your boyfriend?
Well, 'cause she's done it before.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
With this boyfriend or another boyfriend?
DESIREE: Oh, no.
Um, about five years ago,
I was with somebody for roughly five to six months.
They started hanging out.
And then proceeded to cheat on me.
I was so blind to it, it literally took
another family member to point it out to me, like,
one night, we were all sitting and playing cards
and he was sitting by her,
and I'm sitting over here by myself.
So, you would think that she's in the relationship,
and I'm the one single over here,
but it was the other way around.
So, a day later, I confronted them about the situation
and she admitted it to me.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
So, your aunt stole your boyfriend.
Yup.
Even though you were dying on the inside.
Uh-huh. Completely. I was dead. (CHUCKLES)
I didn't get out of bed for almost a week, actually.
It was horrible. I was crushed.
Wow.
Was that the only previous time?
DESIREE: Oh, no. Um... (CHUCKLES)
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
About six, seven months ago,
we were all being... Cassie was sitting in her room,
the family member comes in and she's, like, "Well,
"I just figured you'd like to know that Cassie has been sleeping with your ex."
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
And Cassie denied it at first.
I'm like, "Okay." I believed her a little bit.
'Cause why would she have a reason to lie. This was my ex.
We weren't together at the time.
JUDGE DANA: Right.
There's no reason for her to be lying.
If you're doing it, you're doing it.
Oh, well, that's cool. He's an ex for a reason.
After about 20 minutes of my family member prying her,
She finally came out with it,
and said, "Yeah, you know what? We have."
So, your aunt has slept with two of your boyfriends...
DESIREE: Uh-huh.
And you're now concerned she's sleeping with this boyfriend.
Yes.
JUDGE DANA: What are you worried that you're gonna lose
with Mr. White if that's true?
Oh, my heart. (CHUCKLES) He has my heart.
AUDIENCE: Aww.
JUDGE DANA: Tell him how you're feeling.
DESIREE: I love you,
but if it comes back that
you're cheating on me with my aunt,
you know I'm done, right?
You know I'm here to prove you wrong, right?
DESIREE: Okay.
So, Mr. White, what is it that you love about her?
WILLIAM: I love her smile, the way how she treats me.
The very first time I got to talk to her was on her porch.
She gave me a place to stay...
AUDIENCE: Aww.
...when I needed help,
so pretty much I love everything about her.
JUDGE KEITH: She's a loving, caring person.
Yes. Yes, Your Honor.
And you don't want to see your relationship with her jeopardized.
Never.
AUDIENCE: Aww.
So, did you give him a place to stay?
DESIREE: Yes, Your Honor.
We were previously friends on Facebook,
and the first day we met, I actually gave him a place to stay.
So, how do we move from place to stay to love?
We talked all night that night.
You know, just genuine talks, you know?
He told me about him, I told him about me.
There was laughs, there was little bit of tears, you know,
the way that I instantly felt that connection with him.
It's just one thing led to another and we've been inseparable since.
Who said I love you first?
He did. The second day, actually.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
JUDGE KEITH: The second day?
What kind of conversation was that?
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
The second day?
A very long one.
JUDGE DANA: A very long... Oh! A very long...
What did you say to her?
Pretty much how my life's been all down hill...
JUDGE DANA: Wow.
And so, she came and saved you from that.
WILLIAM: Yes.
And so, you're here trying to protect what you enjoy with her.
Yes, Your Honor.
JUDGE KEITH: So, Ms. Massey, you worried that
all of this can go down the drain.
DESIREE: Yeah.
And I'm gonna waste not another three months.
Shouldn't be worried about it.
Because guess what? You need to check your aunt.
you know I'm done, right?
I wouldn't be making these accusations towards them, Your Honors,
if he wasn't lying to me.
Now he secretly hangs out with Cassie behind my back.
Okay? Now he does tell me about it,
but it's never when it's happening.
Your Honor, I brought a map with me...
JUDGE DANA: Sure.
He's supposed to be going to the convenience store most of the time.
Why don't you step to the monitor, please?
DESIREE: Okay.
Okay. This is my house, Your Honor, right here.
And this is the convenience store
and the restaurant that he walks to from my house.
Now that is south, Your Honor.
Now this is Cassie's house, Your Honor.
Now do you see how the convenience store is all the way down here?
My house is right here, and Cassie's house is right here?
JUDGE DANA: Yes.
Okay. So, he walks from my house
supposedly to this convenience store,
and then right past my house again
to get to Cassie's house an hour and three minutes.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
JUDGE DANA: Yeah, he goes right past your house...
Right past it, and I don't get a knock at the door,
no "Hey, I'm going to Cassie's house,"
or anything for that matter.
Just walk straight past my house right to Cassie's house.
And why do you think he's doing that?
DESIREE: When I confronted him with it,
they both claim that it was to talk about me
and our relationship.
JUDGE KEITH: And you don't believe that?
DESIREE: No.
If you're talking about me and my relationship,
talk to me about my relationship.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
May I return to the...
JUDGE DANA: Okay, so, Mr. White,
are you talking to Ms. Lewers about your relationship?
WILLIAM: The only reason why I'd go to Cassie
'cause she knows her better than anybody else.
And I'm trying to get more advice so I can make things even working better.
So, Mr. White, did anything inappropriate
happen with her aunt?
Uh, she touched my leg and I told her that I was dating...
I was dating Desiree.
Okay, there's touching and then there's "touching."
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
Okay?
Which one are you saying happened with her aunt with your leg?
A little bit of both.
JUDGE KEITH: A little bit of both.
And I got up, and I left, and I walked away.
I went to her house.
Now when he went to my house, y'all wanna ask him why he didn't tell me,
and why I had to find out
when he was on the phone with somebody else.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
Mr. White, do you believe Ms. Massey's aunt was trying to hit on you?
WILLIAM: Honestly, I don't know.
JUDGE DANA: But it felt funny?
Yeah, it felt funny, so I got up and left.
JUDGE DANA: All right.
Cutler, you know there's a his side,
there's her side, and, obviously, there's the aunt side.
We have the aunt here today.
(AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING)
JUDGE DANA: Ron, would you escort the witness in, please?
RON: Yes, Your Honor.
RON: Ms. Lewers.
I'll have you stand next to Mr. White.
on Desiree with her aunt.
You are the aunt of Ms. Massey?
Yes, Your Honor.
JUDGE DANA: Are you sleeping with Mr. White?
No.
What happened when you touched his leg a couple of days ago?
It was just, like, an instinct, comforting, you know?
It wasn't nothing like that. When he said, "I'm taken,"
I looked at him, like,"I know."
JUDGE KEITH: Okay, well, let's do this.
I would like you all to sit in the witness chairs,
and I want you to show the court
how you touched his leg.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
JUDGE DANA: I wanna have a good view.
Can I, like... Can I get one, too?
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
JUDGE KEITH: All right. So, Ms. Lewers, how did you touch his leg?
What led up to you touching his leg? Let's start there.
You all are talking. Okay.
He was upset about Desiree being mad at him,
and I just, like, instinctively,
just tapped it, rubbed it a little bit.
Okay. Show me what you did.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
Is that how it felt?
Tell me what it felt like.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
Put her hand on your leg and show us what happened.
Like that.
JUDGE DANA: Did her hand go any higher?
No, 'cause I stopped it and then I left.
JUDGE DANA: But you think if you hadn't stopped,
it would've gone higher?
Probably.
All right. You go back to the podium, please.
Hmm. My question is,
why are you talking to him,
about your niece's relationship?
You know, I know her the best, you know?
We've been through everything.
We were inseparable as kids.
JUDGE KEITH: You know, sometimes it helps to talk to someone who knows...
Uh, yeah, but she's already slept with two of her boyfriends.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
So are you jealous of Ms. Massey?
I was young, you know?
And at the time, I wasn't...
I was single, you know?
Seeing her being happy,
maybe it did make me jealous.
So, seeing her happy now, are you happy with their relationship?
Yes, I'm very happy.
Do you think that Mr. White is the right guy for Ms. Massey?
In the beginning, I didn't feel that way,
but he showed me that he does love you, you know?
It just seems weird. It just seems really weird.
How can you be against him one day,
and then the next day, y'all hanging out behind my back.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
Because I accept him, you know?
I'm going to accept him, because you're happy with him.
I only went there for advice.
Why are you seeing him without your niece?
Especially with this history.
He just comes to me for advice about her, you know?
She is really feisty.
You know, she gets mad easy,
she snaps off, you try to talk to her, it's way worse.
Like, you know?
JUDGE DANA: But why wouldn't you tell him,
"Let's go and talk to my niece,
"your girlfriend, together."
I was clueless that he hadn't been telling her that he was coming over.
JUDGE KEITH: All right. So, Ms. Massey, what does your gut tell you?
That... That... That he's cheating on me.
What else is it besides your gut?
It's just... It's weird. It's weird.
There's no reason to be lying to me
I don't care how feisty I am. I'mma pop off.
If you think I'm gonna be mad, then don't do it.
I don't text people on Facebook 'cause he gon' get mad.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
JUDGE KEITH: Okay. So, you admit you're feisty.
Oh, yeah. I'm very feisty. (LAUGHS)
JUDGE KEITH: You're very feisty.
Okay.
DESIREE: Yes, Your Honor.
And so, you can see how Mr. White might be reluctant
to maybe come to you with a problem about you.
DESIREE: Yes. Yes.
JUDGE DANA: But hold on, love. I'm feisty.
DESIREE: Mm-hmm.
Yes, you are.
And you aren't going to any of my aunts
talking to them about me, right?
Right?
No. No, I come straight to you.
Huh. And you haven't slept...
And you haven't slept with any of my aunts.
No.
Okay. So, you can understand why she would have these concerns.
If we didn't have the history of sleeping
with her past boyfriends,
we wouldn't be having this discussion.
She'd probably be okay with it.
All right. So, Ms. Massey, you believe
that your boyfriend is sleeping with your aunt.
Yes, Your Honor.
JUDGE KEITH: Okay.
She's already slept with two of your previous boyfriends.
Yes, Your Honor.
And now you believe she's sleeping with your current boyfriend.
DESIREE: Yes.
So, basically, she sets 'em up,
and the aunt knocks 'em down.
DESIREE: Yup.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
Apparently.
JUDGE KEITH: Your gut is telling you that,
everything in your being is telling you
that there's something going on between your boyfriend
and your aunt.
Yes.
JUDGE KEITH: And that's what you're here to find out.
Yes.
To get to the bottom of this,
this court has ordered Mr. White to submit to a polygraph test.
And we have the results.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
JUDGE KEITH: All right. At this time,
Ron, would you please escort and certify
Polygraph Examiner Mr. Michael Williams.
RON: Yes, Your Honor.
Please take the witness stand, sir.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
Polygraph Examiner Mr. Michael Williams.
Mr. Williams, how are you today?
MICHAEL: Good afternoon. How are you, Judge?
JUDGE KEITH: It's good to see you. Good to see you.
Mr. White underwent a polygraph examination.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
JUDGE KEITH: He was asked one question.
Mr. White was asked,
"Since being in a relationship with Ms. Massey,
"have you ever had sexual intercourse with her aunt?"
What was his response to that question?
He said, "No," Your Honor.
What did the lie detector determine?
Your Honor, there was a strong physiological response
to this question,
which indicated to me that the subject was being deceptive.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
(GASPS)
WOMAN: Wow.
JUDGE KEITH: Ms. Massey?
You're looking at your aunt. What are you...
What went through your head when you just looked at her?
DESIREE: I'm very, very hurt.
I'm very, very hurt. I don't know how I feel. (CHUCKLES)
JUDGE KEITH: Well, who are you more angry at?
Your boyfriend or your aunt?
DESIREE: Both of 'em. It takes two to tango.
JUDGE DANA: Ms. Lewers,
the lie detector says that Mr. White has had sex with you.
That is not true.
It's a lie detector. It ain't gon' lie.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
Okay, but never...
JUDGE DANA: That's what it's made to do.
To detect lies.
DESIREE: Boy...
(CHUCKLES)
WOMAN: Mmm-hmm.
JUDGE DANA: You know, Mr. White, you were being deceptive
when you said, "No," to that question
of whether you've had sexual contact
with Ms. Lewers.
I never did, though.
Either of y'all can be honest.
JUDGE KEITH: Well, Ms. Massey,
now that you have the answers that you were looking for,
what does it mean for your relationship
with both your boyfriend and your aunt?
What relationship?
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
You tell me. What relationship?
DESIREE: There is none.
There is none. There is none.
There is none. I don't wanna...
I don't really wanna hear your names ever again for that matter.
That's messed up.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
I have done a lot for you.
I've done a lot for you.
WILLIAM: But you know I love you, so why would you...
Oh, you love me but you having intercourse with my aunt?
I never. I never did.
But the lie detectors...
Dude, the lie detector's test just proved it.
WILLIAM: I was nervous when I took that.
JUDGE DANA: Well, Ms. Massey, it's very clear that you have made some decisions.
I would encourage you to take advantage
of the resources this court offers
on how to manage going forward,
whether it's with Mr. White or alone.
Relationships are not like Scrabble.
The more players doesn't make it better.
Exactly.
JUDGE DANA: Doesn't make it fun,
and it sure doesn't make it right.
And on that note, I would say to you,
as we say in this court,
"Do not cheat yourself out of a chance for a good relationship."
This court is adjourned.
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