Hi I'm LP and you're watching Muzo TV.
Your new album has got many flavors from ballads to rock songs and well even old
school songs and it sounds like freedom. It does? Oh wow what's an old
school song? Shaken. Oh yeah like an old timey song yeah
It has got the 70s vibe I don't know why but I can hear it. I felt like it was more 50s but
I don't know. The 50s hit here in the 70s? Yes the time difference. Elvis was here in the 70s.
It's a great song by the way. Oh cool thank you. For me this album sounds like
freedom because I have got an impression that you had the freedom to do whatever
you wanted with no one telling you what to do. This album sounds unchecked it sounds like you
just went awry amok. Maybe yeah. Okay cool so you like it? Yeah I like it.
Okay. I like it a lot. Okay. Do you like it? I love it I mean yeah I love it
I mean I wouldn't put it but yeah I think it's got I'm not
really into writing the same song twice you know if I don't have to. You know I
think everybody you've got like a lot of everybody's got a lot of you know people
have their sound you know like I mean when I sing a song like you know all
those songs have a thing because I'm singing them. So I think that I feel like
it's nice to just mix it up and and I'm just inspired by all different things
like I never know what's gonna come out of my mouth that day when I'm writing. I
just go with it. I think that in a place like yours after the hit
single after that hit record many people feel the pressure to repeat that success
and what's the easiest way to repeat a success? To do the same thing
once again. Yeah I guess but I don't know how to do that you know it's like
that's like trying to like write a hit every time it just I think it gets in a
way of you know what can be even
better or different or interesting you know. I think yeah there may be
some pressure but I don't know I think I think this record will be good enough to
keep the fans I have and and see I don't know I hope. And get you new ones.
I hope. I guess yeah like I'm trying you know I don't really have expectations I
don't know what's gonna happen you know and I think you know.
I've already got practically another record
ready to go you know so to me I just keep writing songs and I will. And
I hope you know people like them I try so I don't think I want to put any
pressure on this record and see you know and it's not like: oh my god of they don't like
these songs what am I gonna do? Yeah you know I just write more songs. So it's not
like resting on your laurels like I've got a hit single I'm gonna rest it I'm
gonna tour for a few months and then rest and think about the future.
You don't rest. You don't rest enough. Just kidding. I don't know, I'm just not resting right now. Hold on a sec. I just rested okay okay.
What do you do not to go crazy?
Well I nothing that's why I'm freaking crazy. Let's see I do yoga
I meditate I read you know I just try not to take it too seriously
you know but I I still get in those moods I mean I'm not
a stuffed animal you know "Hello kids". I get moody
yeah and then I you know I get annoyed I you know drink and do bad things.
I get weird with my friends or talk it out and move on.
It sounds so easy. Isn't it though? Easier said than done.
"That's right kids, it's easy, try it!".
All right but what about the songs that you perform on stage. Do you feel the
emotions the same emotions that drove you to writing those songs when
performing it or is it just a thing that you have to well distance yourself from?
I mean I think I do in the beginning sometimes when I haven't really
performed a song yet much but then I kind of move on it moves it becomes like
a different thing to me you know. I'm usually I'm in that place. I'm usually
in the emotional place but I don't go specific and I kind of I'm just like
kind of there to like be the vehicle to get it to the people you know at the
show. I don't feel compelled to relive it necessarily but I definitely feel the
emotion of it and then sometimes I do like I'll randomly be like: oh shit, this
song's about this, wow! I mean that's like
nice at times you know but then you know sometimes I'm like thinking very much
about the technical aspect of singing the song to try to like make it as good
as the record is for people so you know cuz I always want to hear when I see a
concert I always kind of want to hear it just like the record I go and hear the
voice like. Yeah? Yeah yeah. You don't? You know I would be like:
is that "Lost On You"? Is it? Seriously is it? I'm gonna talk the song today sit down sit down please.
You know I mean I'm not rigid about it I
just mean that I'm like looking to make it as I don't know for me I like to
hear like that so I just try to. But I'm cool with mistakes. I've made
a lot of mistakes. And no one's noticed. Let's talk about all the mistakes i've made.
Do you go to many gigs yourself when not performing of course but as a fan?
Yeah I do for sure but I feel like. I go to a lot of local people's gigs.
My lady likes to go to shows at home which is kind of sometimes I'm just like I
just got back from tour I don't think I can see like four bands this week so I
go to see like two and then let her go. But I think
yeah I think it's nice to see local bands and stuff like that. But what was the last
show I went to? I went to see Oh the last show I went to was oh there's just a
cool punk band in from America right now called Surfbort I really like.
It's um you know it's fun to see shows when I haven't been touring for a little
bit but um you know when in festivals and stuff I see so many shows that I get
like: okay so plenty of shows. Is there something like being tired of listening to music and after a tour
for example you don't want to put on a record you don't want to go to a show
nothing like that. Sometimes I guess yeah definitely I need quiet
time and I don't really you know there's so much music all the time that I just
don't need like. You know it's like my life is like geared around it so
I'm always seeing it so I don't think I even think about seeking it out. Like if
I see someone I want to see or Lauren wants to see somebody I will make it
happen you know get tickets or whatever you know.
I just saw Florence play because I know them like Isa's my friend and
so you know we saw them at the Hollywood Bowl the day I got home from tour you
know it was just like but it was amazing you know and so fun.
So like stuff like that's always happening so I feel like I'm good with
it. It's just part of my life. As for "Heart to Mouth" - it's not the happiest of albums. Does that upset you? Do you think people will be upset?
No because I think that sad music is better than happy music. Oh really?
Yeah I mean I've made a lot of sad songs. "Lost On You" was the saddest song of all time. I was there.
I know. I wouldn't think I'm gonna be like flying on a fucking rainbow every time I
come in here you know. Yeah. Things are said life is sad get a helmet you know.
I think that's just what came together
you know. I think it's not so sad
as some of it's like ominous. There's some ominous shit in here right? One might
say so. Yeah I mean I think it's just got some you know what I've been
saying and one of the things and this is not tea it's not tea it's what is it?
So good. Don't buy me any if you're watching this please go buy me any. We will give you some. No. It's really good.
What was I blabbling about? About the sad record sad songs. Oh sad songs sad records.
I've been saying that like this record reminds me of a lot of
these songs remind me of when you're dreaming. I have a lot of dreams
like that where I wake up and I'm like I remember some details at first but
then I totally forget them by like midday but I still have that ominous
kind of anxious weird like put me in a strange mood you know. And I think that's
like "Dreamcatcher" the first song on the record and it feels like it's the setup for that you
know like there's like witchy
shit in the air you know. But it's so annoying when you forget a dream when
you forget the details and you know only let's say the frame. I know that's why people do
that whole exercise where they keep a pen and pad by their bed you know. People
do that? Yeah that's what they say to do if you want to remember your dreams keep
a pen and a pad by your bed but I always have to pee when I wake up so I forget
every time. And you go back to sleep. Yeah exactly. So no notes. No notes. Do you
keep it secret sometimes what or who the songs are about? I guess so. Do you tell the people that
you meet in everyday life for example "this song is about your". If they ask I
kind of you know I'll go "hmm I mean yeah ... maybe". It might be. Possibly. Oh yeah like there's a song
called "Special" on the record. That's about my friend who was killed
like right around this time two years ago and uh yeah that song's for him I
felt like I don't you know I can't force things like I can't force myself to
write about anything but this kinda just popped out and I knew it was him you
know. So that's you know that had been bothering me for a while he was um
you know such a good friend and a musician and an
actor and all this stuff and I just felt like I wanted to get a tattoo honoring
him but then I said: you know what I'll get I'll write a song instead. And it's about him.
Yeah yeah. That's the last song on the record. Some people say that only if live a few
years if you have got experiences in life sometimes rough experiences you
might write something that is wise because without all the experiences
you're just writing about fantasies. I don't know I think that might be the
case with some people you know like I feel like you can see through but
there are many times when people you know have very little life
experience I mean it happens many times they write
you know insanely poignant and insightful songs so I don't know.
I don't believe that theory but I do think that it's nice to have experiences. Yeah.
Would you write let's say a dumb song? Would I write a dumb song? I've written
a ton of dumb songs. Yes. I don't know any. I mean I don't. Is it a crime to write a
song that doesn't necessarily bring something like deep lyrics or so
on but is just fun for people? I mean I like songs like that. I wouldn't
shy away from a song like that. God you know uh I'm trying to
think of a dumb song I don't want to insult anybody cause they might not
think that's a dumb song. Like it's about my mom who passed away and it's not dumb.
I don't know so let's think about what? A guilty pleasure then. A guilty pleasure.
You know like a guilty pleasure.
Like Justin Bieber's song "Baby" back
in the day I was like: yeah! Yeah I mean stuff like that you never know. I loved
the tone of his voice then. I like it now but in that song it was so
cute. He threatens to retire. Oh but what about. The retirement thing.
And what about that song back in the day. Hanson. Yeah. They are back.
Yeah yeah. That's a great song. But there was also a song by Crash Test
Dummies in the 90s. Oh yeah with that guy's really low voice. Yeah yeah yeah.
Yeah but like shit like that it's great. And what if you were to write a hit single
someone told you: okay this is your task for today write a hit single. Would
you would you do it? I would try this is the thing. I'm trying to always write a hit single and
at the same time I'm not trying. You know like I think that's
the kiss of death I think in writing. If someone in the room
gets to like: oh my god this is a hit while we're writing so I'm like: Shh
Jesus. Of course we're trying to write it you know but don't say it yet let's just
write the song because then I think that just gets in for me in your head I
think. I'm just trying to get the you know the real real real just make it
feel right in my heart you know. And I love catchy stuff
so I just try to make it catchy and use my intuition as a songwriter to
write parts and that feel like they are worthy of repetition that I
want to sing again again that I want to hear again and again.
But I don't know like you know like "Lost On You" again was like
just this song that that was I got dropped from my label for it
I told you guys this last time that it wasn't like you know it was very I had no idea
like you know there were people that interviewed me they're like
you must have known when you wrote it. I was like no I didn't I mean I knew
it was good but didn't know it was gonna be like a song that changed my life. I had
no idea and when I was writing it I felt very similar to a lot of songs
that I write. I just kind of get in it that day and just go for it.
I want it to be the best that can be but I don't you know and I think
working with huge hit songwriters other ones you know people that I
work with I really have seen like the songs that they write that don't go
anywhere you know there's like people that have written the
biggest hits you've ever heard and then they have hundreds of songs that no
one's ever heard because that's just how songwriting is.
I mean some people yeah can churn them out I'm sure but even
they write songs that aren't big. So I don't think that in my head I just kind of
write you know to write. It's art to me.
How has your life changed since "Lost On You"? Well just I mean the touring
has been non-stop you know.
I never feel like in a show like people sing lyrics to almost every
song you know it feels like you know they like the
records and you know like me as in general but "Lost On You"
introduced me to a lot of people that I never would have met you know so
it's life-changing to connect with a bunch of new people and very
humbling and awesome you know. And I wasn't even like I just didn't even have
the timing of it was like I just didn't have the what do they call that my gosh I'm
spacing on the word but I just didn't have the visibility before
so that song kind of broke things through.
After some time in the record business in show business
does it still surprise you that a song becomes a hit and for example something
that you think might be a hit single a huge hit doesn't? Yeah nothing. Yeah I mean it
does surprise me and it's not just for me.
I've seen it dozens of times with other writers I mean other
artists. Cause I think when I first
like people started coming around for me as an artist again
I was like again you know they're like: yes no yes no it's very kind of like
you know. And every artist goes through that and whether they can
stomach it or not is like you know the thing but you know I just always think
as a writer I always said: you're one song away
you're one song away and I think - I've said this many times
before - as well that if you write a hit everybody wants another hit. If you don't
write a hit everyone just wants a hit so it's not like writing a hit let you go
like ahh. I mean maybe some people you know it's nice at first but you know you just
keep like trying to write songs and just also put out records you know like I had
all this stuff I want to put out so I'm putting out we'll see if anyone likes it. I think
people will. I hope so I hope so I mean that's like the thing like I feel you
know many times when I was on stage in the last three years or so in front of
like very big crowds I was sitting there thinking: wow I really have a
responsibility to these people I gotta like you know write another
record of good stuff and then another one you know and it's responsibility to
myself as well but you know I take it pretty seriously and
I just can't not. It's like if I was on a desert island that's I would be doing.
I would hope I'd have a guitar and ukulele there so I could play. I am always dreaming on
the first hour on that desert island and I'm gonna be there for 15 years. Damn it! I just like travel
I always go on a boat with a bunch of strings and a guitar and ukulele. You never
know. Anything can happen. You can wind up on an island. Life is full of surprises. Well, so it not only
takes talent to remain in this business and to be still recording and playing
because well you need to be stubborn I guess. How many records deals have you
had in your life? Record deals? Oh my yeah God so many. I mean in the States I've had like seven.
Yeah four majors and three indies yeah
all the major label ones were like a big deal like the courting and like ah you
know. It's like: you're amazing you're the next you know and then there's like
they'd be like: you have so many singles I can't believe we can't even
choose and then they'd be like: you have nothing we just don't hear anything
you know. You wouldn't believe the things I've
been told you know and and I'm proud to say I'm not bitter I just kind of
like I just know and it's nice to know and I can really you know
I feel like for my friends that are doing it I feel like I'm the first
person somebody calls when they get dropped from a record deal I just like:
ah I'm so sorry but it's great don't worry it's gonna be okay just fuck
those guys you're better without it.
Get used to it. Yeah. It might happen again. Yeah and I think at the end of the day your
perspective is so great and you know I think it gets to the point where
like no one can hurt you anymore you're like: whatever dude. Just have to go on because many
people after being dropped for the first time think that they have got no talent
no chances and they start let's call it real jobs they come back to their lives
and you know how about getting a hold of yourself and going like: somebody never
got a record deal you know like ever you know
this is hard it's hard stuff you know and people are constantly there's
constant disappointments you know. I think you know even even the talent
shows you know I think
it teaches people that - the disappointment and they think
someone's gonna win or the people that are in the talent show also
experience that and it's really hard like I can never do one of those.
They asked me to do it back in the day and I was like: are you nuts?
No way! Ut's so hard I admire the people
that do that you know. I'd be like: listen I don't need somebody to turn around in
a chair to tell me I can sing. Fuck you. But yeah I mean you know
people that do it that's brave brave brave stuff you know and I think
these shows really show people how hard it is.
And at the same time it's glorified anyway you know they want to do
that it's the drama. But I think life is up and down man. Are there some things that you really laugh at when you
think about your past when you think
about your dreams as a musician about your career or your thoughts about the
business and anything like that? Things are laugh at? Oh gosh I think I laugh
at how fast things would go all the time you know and that it would be
like it would like it would take just this one thing you know like and then
and then BAM you know whereas and I'm sure I know that's some people's
experience but very few. That's the thing that's kind of hard is that I think that
you know the 0.000001 percent of musicians and stuff and and pop stars
and all that stuff that that does happen to that fairytale thing gets so
engrained in the public's mind that kids get involved in a career like that and
just they're like: that's what's gonna happen to me and then if it
doesn't go down like that they're just: yeah it didn't happen. I think that's
a bit premature you know and I think it's uh I think there's work
involved you know I also say this all the time about painters you know I think
a painter you know a person who becomes a famous painter doesn't sit and paint
one painting and wait: that's great yeah you should see it yeah I'm a painter yeah my
paintings got this one it's great right? I mean they don't do that
that's to me what songwriting is it's just constant
honing and you know crafting and I don't know just trying to channel the emotion
through the craft and whatever you can get it through to get
some magic to happen. Its magic there's an element of magic
I think in songwriting and I think a lot of very huge songwriters would say that.
I think Paul McCartney has said that basically in not so many words
there's something about it that just like you know alchemy and
it happens you know. Luckily for you with songs it's not as complicated as with
painters because many of them have to die before they get appreciated.
Yeah. Still though? I don't think I think it was just you know I think paint
fumes were responsible for that back in the day I don't know.
I'm probably not familiar enough with the art world at this point to know if
there's modern-day painters that pass away before and posthumously
become famous. Many of them need to pass away before people recognize them. Yeah for sure. Back in the day the whole
Van Gogh thing. So yeah music is better than in that terms. Definitely better. I just recently
read because they're making a movie about Van Gogh and they were saying
how Van Gogh's I don't know I think it was something abut Van Gogh's brother
like worked really hard before him and that he was very ambitious you
know. I'll wait to see the movie and I'll let you see the movie as
well. But you know it's interesting the the sacrifices that
people make you know and I'm reading there's this woman
Lucia Berlin that I'm just starting to read that also didn't live to see her
fame so like 15 years later and her writing started to become famous.
It's so interesting you know that she could be writing like that
timing that's what this is all about you know like what happens to why did people
not come across her work before you know it just seems strange to me like not it
doesn't seem strange to me I get it but it just it's tragic and
interesting you know that that happens with people's work and that's why I feel
like not that that would happen to me but I feel very blessed
and I've been doing it for you know for over ten years I've been making a
cool living at music and then this happened in the home
stretch and I just like: awesome you know so and and my perspective of it is so
invaluable to me like I feel really lucky also for that that I just have the
perspective to go well you know it can happen and it can't any and it
doesn't happen. There's plenty of people like I feel like I'm living the like
kind of the other like what if I you know like cuz I when I left New York and
moved to California I think that was a new beginning for me you know and if I
hadn't done that things would be so different and I always
think about that cause I was in a relationship in New York and and it
wasn't bad it was just kind of plateaued and
I knew that if I didn't pursue my career even harder that
in like you know ten years I would go like: oh man I should I should have
really gone for it because you know I did all this stuff to get just to
where I was and then I kind of I don't. I think about that often
and you know the what-ifs are really really deep.
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