in the New York Times yesterday Thomas Friedman wrote that instead of prattling
on about issues like jobs or the great economy the media should spotlight
Trump's evil personality because that'll help the Democrats by discouraging
Republicans from backing Trump he wrote quote the whole country needs to see
every tweet every rally every word in every reaction so that they can ask
themselves is this who I want my kids to see as our president what a great idea
because remember what happened the last time the media covered every tweet every
rally every word in every reaction of Donald Trump when when every wink nudge
cough became part of the media snark NATO they elected Donald Trump the bozos
yep there were like 300 Republican candidates but all the Yahoo's in the
press chased the orange meteor precisely for the things they hate about him now
Trump was great TV he was shocking screw Rick Perry Rand Paul and all those other
nobodies this guy makes chance into a sure thing Trump got like a billion
dollars worth of free air time and not led by Fox News who actually featured
commentators who challenged Trump over his behavior and beliefs
it was CNN who led the charge and assorted other drips who didn't seem to
mind because they thought Hillary had it in the bag anyway then they had no other
way to get people to watch their boring mindless coverage so telling the media
to focus on Trump's behavior you're in effect saying hey remember how we
elected Trump in 2016 let's do it again isn't that true Morgan
it seems like friedman has amnesia the more you the more you focus on Trump the
better he does I think it's interesting this advice is coming from people who
it's like the most boring dinner party ever if you if you're with them like
they're having a glass of expensive wine and they're like it's in trouble
and so that's essentially you're having people that have no understanding of
social media and of how the president actually goes straight to the American
people advocating for the media covering him in general I mean this is this plays
directly into his playbook as you said and I think listen I was I was on the
other side of him in the marry so I know what it's like to for
him to get all the media coverage he did it brilliantly he speaks directly to the
American people and I don't know what Friedman thinks he's doing but I think
the same people who read this in The Times are the same people who sit with
him at their boring dinner parties and complain about the president would you
work for in the primary job oh well there are a lot of people at Fox who are
on the other side so that's I mean the thing is well I was watching the amount
of coverage on CNN and going you know they're doing everything not just CNN
but MSNBC Morning Joe should have been morning Trump absolutely unlike Fox and
Friends I love Fox and Friends I'm up every
morning who should I talk to next Jason I'm looking at your face and I'm
thinking what's in your brain what are you thinking is it good to get personal
one of the biggest disappointments were when I came into Congress in 2008 when I
got to the end is the lack of objective media and I've seen how they totally
changed the rules because things that they wouldn't cover under Barack Obama
they now want to cover incessantly with that with with Donald Trump they have
totally flipped the equation and to be in a contrived way actually advocating
and look this is what we need to do so we can all get together on the same page
yes is so contrived there are very few media outlets that I really trusted that
you know when you were going to read the paper in the morning people always ask I
think the wall street journal gives it the fairest straightest objective
viewpoint but you know gone are the days of a New York Times or somebody like
that that will objectively actually give you just the straight up now you know I
believe that's owned by our parent company I though I must I am a
subscriber oh you know well dad I steal your paper burn that between 2000 and
2008 it was this the same yeah I mean this is when the media like they have to
fight against President Bush on everything every issue every utterance
every was amplified and then as Greg has pointed out that they were asleep during
the Obama years Obama but I do this is what I think that there has been some
journalism that has had an effect on the Trump administration if you look at the
HHS formers HHS Secretary Tom Price he had to resign after that reporting the
the New York Times and others but mainly the New York Times focusing on Scott
Pruett at the EPA that was journalism that didn't have to they didn't focus on
President Trump they were just doing their journalism and they had in effect
I would also say that they spent so did Pruitt Pruitt had in effect that's why
they went after him I mean he was doing some good stuff but you can do like good
policy without without together which anyway because Larry is doing now the
only thing I'm gonna say is if they cover every tweet in every utterance
then they're not covering all the other stuff there's limited room in the
newspaper and if they just want to do the tweets they can do that and all the
other stuff goes under the radar yeah what what people like Tom Freeman who's
a bright guy but he's dead wrong on this what better mustache what they don't get
is that Trump is a movie star he's got charisma you mentioned Jeb Bush I like
Jeb a lot I mean I had injury and but sometimes when he was governor but next
to trump it was like he had it was vanilla next to a banana split with the
cherry on top one by one through the primary and just as everybody else and
because they couldn't compete with someone with that kind of charisma now
you can hate Trump you can love Trump but the thing is there is there is a
magnetism about him the more you see him and he doesn't blow the world up you say
hey you know maybe it's not so bad the economy is OK I'm really good and impact
and we're not at war with North Korea they may work out their Iranian is what
if they don't have to really hurt us and the more he's around I think the more
people get used to him I think it really works in Trump's favor but is it what's
surprising to me about the piece is that Friedman's sort of he put it out there
that the media is not for the president he sort of said the media shooter
against the president he was honest to me I mean I thought yes is he admitting
that the fake news that the time he was honest and he said I wish we could be
China for a day yeah all sorts have done the things done everybody went after him
for saying oh you really yeah China every now and then he lets it slip he
pulls back the curtain and we see what we really know to be true all right
Nancy Pelosi is outrageous new plan to help illegal immigrants find out what it
is
Nancy Pelosi adding fuel to the raging debate over immigration the House
Minority Leader urging voters to back Democratic candidates in the midterms to
help her party's immigration agenda we are not going to be able to get it done
under the Republican leadership in Congress we believe that we will have
leverage when we win in November and why that's important because it gives
leverage to every family to every mom who courageously brought her child
across the desert to escape that's the Minority Leader in El Paso the
Democratic governor of New York slamming ice with this new threat I will
do nothing cooperatively with ice I have sent them letters asking for an
investigation I have said if they do any criminal acts which a police force can
do we will take criminal action against ice because I believe they are
politically motivated let me ask you congressman did you leave Congress
because of your frustration that the two bodies and the two sides could not work
together that was a big part of it I mean something like immigration I had
passed the bill dealing with immigration 385 votes in the house very bipartisan
the Senate didn't even take it up and the Harry Reid folks came over and said
hey you know what the reason we're not going to do is we can't allow
Republicans have a victory on immigration and it's terribly
frustrating it is wrong but I think those messages are fundamentally wrong
and I do believe the polling that the number one issue going into the midterm
will actually be immigration there are only eight congressional days left in
the House of Representatives they have to pass a continuing resolution auric or
a an omnibus and the president has laid down the law there is going to be
funding in there or I will veto that bill and that has to happen before the
election you take him at his word that he's actually gonna shut down the
government and if you shut down the government how do you get it reopened
what what happens to reopen once you shut it this is why I think they need to
make the case the American people there's no reason out of a four trillion
dollar annual budget you can't put in there twenty five billion dollars to
fund the wall and if you extrapolate that over ten
years we're talking alright I'll give you 25 billion for the wall if you give
me a green light for the dreamers I think what the president has offered
goes far beyond what he promised in the election he's actually agreed to do that
sort of thing so you would allow what the many in the party Kol amnesty for
the dream I reject the amnesty I don't think you have to put them on a pathway
to citizenship but I do think you can give them some legal status so that they
have the certainty but you got to get rid of the rewards and incentives to be
here illegally and what Nancy Pelosi is doing in El Paso is morally wrong to
encourage people to cross that desert but their lives unlike they should be
going to a US Embassy in El Salvador rather than putting life in peril are
you shocked Morgan that the abolish ice plank yeah has gained such credibility
in the Democratic mainstream I am shocked
you know you know about the Democrat mainstream more than I do I think by the
I love them by the moderate victory in Michigan and a hybrid party I think that
the moderates have won in that part the thing that surprises me so much as I've
worked very closely for the past over a decade with people at DHS and ice when I
was in government and my reserve capacity and these are people that you
know that sign up to serve their government to serve it faithfully and I
sort of see what's happening in ice is the same thing that I think we saw you
know several years ago the Democrats doing to police around America so it was
okay to bash to the police a few years ago now it's okay to bash ice if you
want to talk about reforming the institution that's fine we need to
reform all day every day and many government institutions but to disparage
people who raise their hand and take an oath to serve our country is flat-out
disgusting I agree with Jason's proposal Dana that immigration is the biggest
issue because I think it it encapsulates a lot of other things like race and jobs
and jobs and social class and and I know all the rest of it but which image is
more powerful the classic image of a brown wave overwhelming the southern
border all these immigrants coming in ruining our quality of life or ice going
into peaceable homes and going after you diego garcia who's been a gardener here
for 30 years and he married an american citizen and his children all born here
and they were in public school which image is more powerful and won't that
and jason depends on where you sit right so I think that the wave is definitely
probably the more powerful image as the president paints it but you know like
earlier this week there was a story about marine whose wife who had come
here illegally 30 years ago or something they have two children he's he has
served in Iraq three times she got deported and that story it was an AP
story but it doesn't get a ton of coverage but if you get enough of those
then you might actually start to see some pushback I actually think that
President Trump if if the Republicans there was the house his chances of
getting an immigration bill that he could live with and that he could
support and it would be good for the country is more possible than if the
Republicans keep the house why because the Republicans have shown over and over
that they're not willing to make a deal and also because of what Jason just said
because the Democrats are saying well we can't give the Republicans a win think
of what Newt Gingrich did in 1996 with Bill Clinton on welfare reform it was a
big issue what did that do it helped President Clinton win reelection because
it basically changes the paradigm so it's not that this can't get done it's
nothing else if the Republicans lose I actually think it's more likely it gets
done because of Trump where do you stand on that I don't know I mean which of
those images really grips you I reject I reject the black-and-white nature of
this conversation you can hold a number of stances competing stances on
immigration is just like a stock portfolio okay
so you can be for a process that enables safe legal immigration while curbing
illegal immigration or other types of immigration when you say something that
you feed into the media's gaping maw they turns into you hate foreigners it's
it's either you are for this or you were against this and if you're for laws
something is wrong with you that's not how it is you can hold a number of
different positions and it all makes sense for example the difference between
the right and the left are laws the efforts in the immigration debate is the
stance of abiding a law the conservatives Republicans one of you
would abide by the law the left are saying no no no sanctuary sanctuary
people are fleeing refugees are fleeing countries precisely because there are
laws myth the reason why they're coming to America is because our laws create
order which enables freedom that allows people to live their lives in safety if
you look at Somalia which has no laws the Congo Venezuela which okay it was
chaos they have no laws you gotta get out so I
think we know they've gotta obey the law stuff is Sunday yes I really think that
such cover that's not it that it's such common to my country although you're
avoiding dealing with the issue of where are you I just explained to you the
issue you totally ignored what I said what do you okay let me explain it to
you one more time and I'll do it slow you can have competing you can have you
can have competing notions about immigration you can be for legal
immigration because you want more immigrants here I'm that guy
I'm and if there's a prime even for a pathway to citizenship however i'm i
believe that illegal immigration is breaking the law if you could somehow it
was begging yeah and i'm against speeding - i'm sure you're not the
velocity that i'll be speed without a sheriff down showdown intensifies the
president is telling a marriage that thanks to the pen stay tuned as his
legal team attacks the molar probe
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