>> Ian: ON THIS THURSDAY NIGHT
--
>> I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT UNTIL
TODAY.
>> Ian: FORMER TORY M.P. TONY
CLEMENT MAKES PUBLIC A SECOND
INCIDENT.
THE "AT ISSUE" PANEL LOOKS AT
THE CHALLENGES INVOLVED.
>>> MY FIRST BORN SON.
>> Andrew: AGONIZING REACTION
FROM FAMILIES AND WITNESSES
AFTER ANOTHER MASS KILLING IN
THE UNITED STATES.
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MAN WHO
PULLED THE TRIGGER.
>> PEOPLE ARE THINKING THE SAME
THING.
>> Ian: DEVASTATING FIRES RIP
THROUGH IQALUIT.
WHAT IT MEANS FOR SUPPLIES OF
FOOD AND MEDICINE.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL".
>> Ian: THERE IS MORE TO THE
TONY CLEMENT SEXTING SCANDAL
THAN HE ORIGINALLY MADE PUBLIC
AND THINGS COULD GO FROM BAD TO
WORSE FOR THE FORMER
CONSERVATIVE VEN.
FORCED OUT OF THE CAUCUS,
REMOVED FROM A NATIONAL SECURITY
COMMITTEE, HE FACES MORE TOUGH
QUESTIONS ABOUT ANOTHER
INCIDENT.
CATHERINE CULLEN HAS THE LATEST.
>> I DON'T THINK TOO MANY PEOPLE
NEED TO BE TOLD THAT IT'S
INAPPROPRIATE TO SEND EXPLICIT
PHOTOS AND VIDEOS TO PEOPLE YOU
NEVER MET.
>> Reporter: YET THAT'S
PRECISELY WHAT TONY CLEMENT DID.
>> I UNDERSTAND HE UTILIZED THE
POWER OF SOCIAL MEDIA EVERY DAY.
>> Reporter: ONCE THOUGHT OF AS
A POLITICIAN WITH A KEEN GRASP
OF ONLINE COMMUNICATION, HE
REVEALED TODAY FOR MONTHS
SOMEONE HAS BEEN TRYING TO
EXPOSE HIS INDISCRETIONS.
IN A LETTER, CLEMENT SAYS ONE
INAPPROPRIATE EXCHANGE LED TO A
WOMAN BEING OFFERED MONEY.
I IMMEDIATELY REPORTED THIS
PERSONAL MATTER TO THE O.P.P.
LAST SUMMER.
THAT, CANADA TO THE EXTORTION
ATTEMPT HE WENT PUBLIC ABOUT
THIS WEEK.
>> I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT UNTIL
TODAY.
AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, WHEN TONY
AND I SPOKE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
MORE RECENTLY, IT WAS PRESENTED
TO ME AS AN ISOLATED EVENT.
>> Reporter: THERE WERE TWO
ATTEMPTS TAKES ON ADDED
SIGNIFICANCE BECAUSE CLEMENT WAS
A MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT'S
NATIONAL SECURITY AND
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE.
MEETING IN SECRET AND ACCESSING
SENSITIVE INFORMATION.
>> SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT THE
SECURITY COMMITTEE?
>> Reporter: IT LEADS TO
UNCOMFORTABLE QUESTIONS ABOUT
WHETHER THAT HAD ANYTHING TO DO
WITH CLEMENT BEING TARGETED AND
WHETHER OFFICIALS KNEW WHAT WAS
GOING ON.
A MEMBER MUST WITHOUT DELAY
ALERT THE CLERK WITH THE REPORT
OF ANY CHANGE IN THEIR PERSONAL
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MAY AFFECT
THEIR SECURITY CLEARANCE.
A GOVERNMENT SOURCE SAYS
OFFICIALS WERE ONLY ADVISED OF
CLEMENT'S SITUATION LAST WEEK.
>> Ian: SOME PEOPLE WONDERING
ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE
DISCLOSURES BY TONY CLEMENT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT, "THE TORONTO
STAR" WAS ABOUT TO REPORT SOME
OF THE DETAILS OF THESE
INCIDENTS.
THEY REACHED OUT TO TONY CLEMENT
FOR COMMENT FIRST.
INSTEAD, HE DECIDED TO GIVE HIS
OWN VERSION OF EVENTS VIA THIS
LETTER EXPLAINING HIS TAKE ON
THINGS AND ALSO EXPRESSING A LOT
OF REMORSE FOR ALL OF THIS.
>> Ian: IN YOUR ITEM, YOU
TOUCHED ON THE SECURITY
CONCERNS.
TELL US ABOUT THAT.
>> Reporter: WE DON'T KNOW WHO
THE PERSON OR PERSONS BEHIND
THIS WERE AND CERTAINLY TONY
CLEMENT SUGGESTED THIS WAS ABOUT
FINANCIAL EXTORTION, SOMEBODY
WAS TRYING TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF
HIM.
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS
THAT ARE NOT CLEAR AROUND ALL OF
THIS RIGHT NOW AND THE FACT THAT
HE WAS TARGETED ON TWO SEPARATE
OCCASIONS SUGGEST THIS IS NOT
ENTIRELY RANDOM AND THAT
CERTAINLY HEIGHTENING THE
SECURITY CONCERNS.
>> Ian: THANK YOU.
WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THE STORY
LATER IN THE PROGRAMME.
"AT ISSUE" IS HERE TO LOOK AT
HOW POLITICAL PARTIES AND THEIR
LEADERS SHOULD RESPOND TO THESE
TYPES OF SITUATIONS.
>>> TO A NEW DEVELOPMENT IN A
STORY BROKE EARLIER THIS YEAR.
FOR THE FIRST TIME SOMEONE FROM
THE BAND HEDLEY IS SPEAKING OUT
ABOUT THE SEXUAL MISCONDUCT
ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THE GROUP'S
LEAD SINGER.
JACOB HOGGARD FACES CHARGES OF
SEXUAL INTERFERENCE.
THE ALLEGED VICTIM IS A WOMAN
AND GIRL UNDER THE AGE OF 16.
44-YEAR-OLD CHRIS CRIPPIN WAS A
DRUMMER WITH HEDLEY FOR 11
YEARS.
HE STOPPED PERFORMING WITH THE
BAND IN 2016, THE SAME YEAR OF
THE ALLEGED CRIMES.
CRIPPIN WANTS TO SUPPORT THE
WOMEN WHO CAME FORWARD ONLY TO
FACE ONLINE BACKLASH.
HE SAID HE'S ALSO SPEAKING TO
POLICE.
JUDY TRINH HAS WORKED THE STORY
FOR MONTHS.
>> Reporter: FOR A DECADE CHRIS
CRIPPIN STOOD BEHIND JACOB
HOGGARD, BUT NOW THE HEDLEY
DRUMMER IS STEPPING FORWARD,
SPEAKING FOR THE FIRST TIME
ABOUT THE SINGER.
>> FEMALE FANS WOULD WALK UP AND
HE WOULD SAY, HEY, YOU [BLEEP],
HOW YOU DOING?
>> Reporter: HE LEFT THE BAND,
BUT BEFORE THE SPLIT, CRIPPIN
WITNESSED PLENTY OF
INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR.
>> YEAH, HARD GUY TO BE AROUND.
I WAS SURPRISED AT THE SEVERITY
OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW.
OF THE ALLEGATIONS.
>> Reporter: JACOB HOGGARD IS
CHARGED WITH SEXUALLY ASSAULTING
TWO WOMEN AND CAUSING THEM
BODILY HARM.
ONE VICTIM WAS UNDER THE AGE OF
16 WHEN SHE WAS ALLEGEDLY
ATTACKED.
THE OTHER SAYS SHE WAS RAPED BY
HOGGARD IN THE FULL OF 2016.
>> HELD ME DOWN AND FORCED ME
ANAL SEX WITH HIM.
>> Reporter: CRIPPIN SAYS
HOGGARD WOULD SHARE UNWANTED AND
LEWD IMAGES OF HIMSELF AND THE
WOMEN HE HAD BEEN WITH.
HE WOULD ALSO SEND E-MAILS
CONTAINING RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIC
IMAGES TO PRODUCERS, MUSICIANS
AND MANAGERS.
IT'S BEHAVIOR CRIPPIN CONSIDERED
HARASSMENT.
AFTER SEXUAL MISCONDUCT
ALLEGATIONS SURFACED, THEY
DROPPED THE BAND.
THE PRESIDENT OF WATCHDOG SAYS
THE COMPANY HAS LEARNED FROM ITS
MISTAKES.
THE BAND WAS CHALLENGING TO WORK
WITH...
>> AFTER TEN YEARS, AT THIS
LEVEL, PRETTY WELL KNOWN FACE
AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE THINK OF YOU
DIFFERENTLY FOR SURE.
I THINK HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF
THAT.
>> LIVING THE ROCK STAR LIFE HAS
NOTHING DO TO DO WITH VIOLENCE.
>> CRIPPIN IS ATTEMPTING TO
RESTART HIS MUSIC CAREER.
>> IT'S HAD A BACKLASH IN A LOT
OF PEOPLE'S LIVES.
IN MY OWN, IT'S DIFFICULT TO
MOVE ON.
>> Reporter: IN A STATEMENT,
HOGGARD ALONG WITH THE CURRENT
MEMBERS OF HEDLEY CALLED CRIPPIN
DISGRUNTLED AND BITTER.
THEY SAID HE PERFORMED A HATCHET
JOB ON HOGGARD AS THE CRIMINAL
CHARGES WIND THEIR WAY THROUGH
THE COURT.
>> Andrew: HERE'S WHAT ELSE
WE'RE WORKING ON, THE MAYOR OF
IQALUIT WARNS PEOPLE NOT TO
PANIC AFTER A FIRE DESTROYS JUST
ONE OF TWO WINTER RETAILERS WITH
A WINTER SUPPLY OF MERCHANDISE.
>> Ian: THEY'RE STILL SEARCHING
FOR REASONS WHY A MAN WALKED
INTO A CALIFORNIA BAR AND
STARTED SHOOTING.
>> Andrew: WORKERS AT BOMBARDIER
RECEIVED DEVASTATING NEWS TODAY.
MONTREAL AEROSPACE AND
TRANSPORTATION GIANT IS SWIMMING
IN DEBT.
AND OFFICIALS SAY IT NEEDS
STREAMLINING.
SO BOMBARDIER IS SELLING OFF ITS
DASH 8 TURBOPROP PROGRAMME, THE
Q SERIES, AS WELL AS THE
BUSINESS AIRCRAFT AND FLIGHT
TRAINING DIVISIONS.
YOU REMEMBER THAT EARLIER THIS
YEAR BOMBARDIER ALREADY SOLD THE
MONEY-LOSING C-SERIES JET TO
EUROPE AIRBUS.
5,000 JOBS WILL BE AFFECTED OVER
THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF.
HALF OF THOSE IN QUÉBEC.
THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO TAKE YOU
NOW.
THE IN THE MIDST OF A
TURNAROUND PLAN, FIVE YEARS
TURNAROUND AND PART OF THAT WE
HAVE TO TRANSFORM THE WAY WE ARE
DOING THINGS.
WE HAVE TO BECOME MORE
PRODUCTIVE.
>> 5,000 JOB CUTS DOESN'T MEAN
ALL THE WORKERS WILL BE OUT OF A
JOB.
SOME MIGHT FIND OTHER POSITIONS
WITHIN THE COMPANY.
STILL, UNTIL BOMBARDIER EXPLAINS
WHO IS EFFECTED AND WHEN
EXACTLY, WORKERS ARE LIVING IN
UNCERTAINTY.
>> NONE OF THEM KNOW IF THEY'RE
AFFECTED OR NOT, SO YOU'VE GOT
THIS LIKE FEELING INSIDE THE
PLANTS OF WORRY, EVERYBODY
WONDERING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE
TALKING ABOUT DOING IT OVER THE
PERIOD OF THE NEXT 18 MONTHS.
PEOPLE ARE WONDERING, IS IT
BEFORE CHRISTMAS?
>> IT'S A DARK DAY IN THERE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T BELIEVE
THE DASH 8 THAT HAS BEEN BUILT
HERE SINCE EARLY 80s IS GOING TO
BE LEAVING.
>> BOTH PROVINCIAL AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENTS ARE OFFERING
REASSURANCES.
>> OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO THE
WORKERS, THE FAMILIES IMPACTED
BY THIS.
>> Reporter: CHANCES ARE GOOD
THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME WE'LL
HEAR ABOUT JOB CUTS AT
BOMBARDIER.
COMPANY EXECUTIVES SAY THERE IS
MORE NEED FOR RESTRUCTURING IF
THEY WANT TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE
IN THE INDUSTRY, BUT THEY WON'T
GO INTO DETAIL WHAT THAT MEANS
FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES DOWN THE
ROAD.
>> Andrew: TODAY'S NEWS HAS
IMPLICATIONS BEYOND QUÉBEC AND
ONTARIO.
THAT'S BECAUSE FOR DECADES, BOTH
THE PROVINCIAL AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE POURED IN
BILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO
PROP THE COMPANY UP.
OTTAWA GAVE MORE THAN $300
MILLION IN INTEREST-FREE LOANS
TO THE COMPANY LAST YEAR.
AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT,
BOMBARDIER GOT THE LAST
INSTALLMENT OF A $1.3 BILLION
INVESTMENT FROM QUÉBEC.
LET'S FLIP OVER TO ANOTHER
STORY.
A DRAMATIC ONE THAT UNFOLDED IN
CANADA'S NORTH.
IT TOOK MOST OF THE DAY FOR
FIREFIGHTERS TO BRING A MASSIVE
FIRE UNDER CONTROL IN IQALUIT.
AND THEN AUTHORITIES HAD SOME
PUBLIC PANIC TO PUT OUT.
THE CITY'S BIGGEST RETAILER, ONE
OF JUST TWO MAJOR GROCERY STORES
IN THE CITY, WENT UP IN FLAMES.
AND IN A PLACE WHERE FOOD PRICES
ARE ALREADY SKY HIGH, A SINGLE
FIRE CAN CAUSE A WHOLE LOT OF
DAMAGE.
>> Reporter: THE FIRE STARTED
2:00 IN THE MORNING, BY FAR THE
BIGGEST OF FIVE FIRES THAT CREWS
WERE CALLED TO LAST NIGHT IN THE
NORTH MARKET, THE BIGGEST
GENERAL STORE, SENDING
EVERYTHING FROM FRESH PRODUCE,
FURNITURE, ALL OF IT FLOWN IN.
>> WE'LL ENSURE WE HAVE
SUFFICIENT FOOD FOR EVERYONE.
>> Reporter: THE CITY SAYS THERE
WILL BE ENOUGH, BUT EVEN SO
RESIDENTS RUSH TO BUY SUPPLIES
AT THE OTHER MAIN STORE.
>> EVERYBODY IS PANICKING.
IT LOOKS LIKE A BIT OF A WAR
ZONE.
EVERYBODY KNOWS THE FOOD SUPPLY
IS LIMITED TO BEGIN WITH.
>> Reporter: LOSING NORTH MART
IS DEVASTATING TO THE COMMUNITY.
FOR ME, I WAS VERY UPSET THAT
THE STORE CAUGHT ON FIRE SAID
THIS MAN.
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY
GOES.
>> BIG PART OF NORTH MART WE'RE
GOING TO LOSE AND LOT OF
SKI-DOOS GOING TO BE UP IN
FLAMES, TOO.
>> Reporter: IT'S NOT JUST FOOD
AND SUPPLIES.
THE NORTH MART ALSO HAD ONE OF
ONLY TWO PHARMACIES HERE.
CITY OFFICIALS AND RETAILERS MET
THIS AFTERNOON TO COME UP WITH
AN EMERGENCY PLAN.
THE NORTH MART SAYS IT IS
WORKING WITH ITS ONLY
COMPETITOR, ARCTIC VENTURES, TO
KEEP THE SHELVES FULL FOR THE
COMMUNITY.
THE FIRE AT THE NORTH MART
BURNED ALL DAY LONG AND THE CITY
OFFICIALS APPEALED FOR PEOPLE TO
CONSERVE WATER.
NEARBY WHO HOME AND SENIOR
FACILITY HAD TO BE EVACUATED.
NO ONE WAS INJURED HERE OR IN
ANY OF THE FIRES THAT ARE UNDER
INVESTIGATION.
OFFICIALS WON'T SAY IF THEY
SUSPECT ARSON.
>> Ian: THE CITY OF THOUSAND
OAKS, CALIFORNIA, IN GREATER LOS
ANGELES IS THE LATEST COMMUNITY
IN THE UNITED STATES TO TRY TO
COPE WITH A MASS SHOOTING.
THIS ONE HAPPENED LATE LAST
NIGHT AT A CROWDED BAR, POPULAR
WITH COLLEGE STUDENTS.
AN EVENING OF DANCING AND
BIRTHDAY CELEBRATIONS SHATTERED
BY GUN FIRE.
THE SHOOTER WAS A MARINE CORPS
VETERAN.
HE MURDERED 12 PEOPLE BEFORE
TURNING THE GUN ON HIMSELF.
>> BEFORE THE BULLETS FLEW,
BEFORE THE STAMPEDE TO ESCAPE,
HOLDEN REMEMBERS IT ALL.
THE SHOOTER STROLLING INTO THE
BORDERLINE BAR AND GRILL,
REACHING INTO HIS POCKET TO PAY
THE COVER CHARGE.
>> HE SAW THE MAN PULL OUT THE
GUN AND START SHOOTING.
>> Reporter: THEN CHAOS.
HE AND HIS FRIENDS MANAGED TO
CRAWL OUT THE BACK DOOR.
>> VERY LUCKY TO BE ON MY FEET.
FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T MAKE
IT OUT, SUCKS, THEY DIDN'T
DESERVE IT.
>> Reporter: JASON TRACKED HIS
SON'S CELL PHONE TO THE BAR BUT
THE SIGNAL WASN'T MOVING.
LATER, HE LEARNED WHY.
>> MY FIRST BORN SON -- ONLY HIM
AND I KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE, HOW
MUCH I MISS, OH, GOD, OH, SON, I
LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
>> Reporter: THIS MORNING A
MOTORCADE FOR A POLICE OFFICER
KILLED AS HE RUSHED IN TO
CONFRONT THE GUNMAN.
>> AS I TOLD HIS WIFE, HE DIED A
HERO BECAUSE HE WENT IN TO SAVE
LIVES, OTHER PEOPLE.
>> Reporter: A SIGN OF HOW OFTEN
THESE HORRORS ARE HAPPENING IN
AMERICA, FOR SOME SURVIVORS THIS
WASN'T THEIR FIRST MASS
SHOOTING.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, THE SECOND
TIME IN A YEAR AND MONTH THAT
THIS HAPPENED.
I WAS IN LAS VEGAS.
>> Reporter: WHICH IS WHY GRACE
FISHER DROVE DOWN TO THE SCENE
WITH HER WELL-WORN SIGN.
FISHER PULLS IT OUT TO LOBBY FOR
GUN CONTROL AFTER EVERY MASS
SHOOTING.
>> ANYTIME THIS HAPPENS, WE HAVE
TO STAND UP AND SAY THIS IS NOT
OK.
SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE
IMMEDIATELY.
>> Reporter: HER MOM IS CALLING,
SHE WANTS HIM HOME.
YOU CAN SEE THE STAMP BY THE
BOUNCER TO SHOW HE'S UNDER AGE.
HE WON'T WASH IT OFF, A TRIBUTE
TO HIS DEAD FRIENDS.
HE KNOWS THE MARK WILL FADE, BUT
THE HORRIFIC MEMORIES OF LAST
NIGHT WILL BE WITH HIM ALWAYS.
>> Ian: WE DO KNOW THE GUNMAN
WAS A MILITARY VETERAN, POSSIBLY
SUFFERING FROM POST-TRAUMATIC
STRESS AND HE HAD CONTACT WITH
LOCAL POLICE.
BUT AS FOR MOTIVE, THAT IS STILL
UNCLEAR.
>> IT WOULD BE PREMATURE FOR ME
TO SPECULATE ON THE MOTIVATION,
BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU WE WILL
FOLLOW ALL THE LEADS THAT ARE
DEVELOPED THROUGH WITNESS
INTERVIEWS, EVIDENCE RECOVERY,
THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE, AND ANY
DIGITAL MEDIA WE RECOVER, AND WE
WILL BE SURE TO PAINT A PICTURE
OF THE STATE OF MIND OF THE
SUBJECT AND DO OUR BEST TO
IDENTIFY A MOTIVATION.
>> Ian: INVESTIGATORS HOPE FOR
SOME INSIGHT FROM HIS HOUSE
WHERE THE 28-YEAR-OLD LIVED WITH
HIS MOTHER.
BUT HERE'S A LITTLE MORE ON HIS
MILITARY BACKGROUND.
RECORDS SHOW LONG WAS AN ACTIVE
DUTY MARINE BETWEEN 2008-13.
HE WAS DEPLOYED TO AFGHANISTAN
IN 2010 AND SERVED AS A MACHINE
GUNNER.
LONG WAS IN ACTION IN HELMAND
PROVINCE.
HE LEFT THE MARINES IN 2013 WITH
THE RANK OF CORPORAL.
ONE FRIEND DESCRIBED HIM AS
FUNNY, BUT WITH A TENDENCY TO
GET DARK.
HIS MOTHER WAS WORRIED ABOUT HIS
MENTAL STATE.
WE HAVE REPORTED ON MANY MASS
SHOOTINGS IN THE UNITED STATES
AND AS KIM SAID, ONE OF LAST
NIGHT'S SURVIVORS HAVE BEEN
THROUGH THIS BEFORE.
A GRIM COINCIDENCE THAT WARRANTS
ANOTHER LOOK.
>> A SECOND TIME IN A YEAR AND
MONTH THAT IT HAPPENED.
I WAS AT THE LAS VEGAS MASS
SHOOTING AS WELL AS PROBABLY 50
OR 60 OTHERS IN THE BUILDING AT
THE SAME TIME AS ME.
>> Ian: AND SO THAT YOUNG MAN
HAD PLANNED TO HOLD A MEMORIAL
FOR THE VEGAS MASSACRE AT THE
BORDERLINE BAR AND GRILL.
THIS WAS THE FOURTH MASS
SHOOTING IN THE UNITED STATES
THIS YEAR WHERE AT LEAST 10
PEOPLE DIED.
>> Andrew: STILL AHEAD, U.S.
MIDTERM ELECTIONS ON TUESDAY SAW
THE DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL OF
THE HOUSE, BUT WHAT DOES THAT
MEAN FOR CANADA AND THE TRADE
DEAL?
>> Ian: WHEN THEY BROUGHT IN A
SELF-REPORTING SYSTEM, BUT CBC
NEWS HAS DOCUMENTS THAT SHOW THE
SYSTEM CAN FAIL.
>> Andrew: TURNS OUT THAT CANADA
CHOICE LABEL ON YOUR APPLE JUICE
MAY NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT
MEANS.
>> I THINK THERE WOULD BE A LOT
OF PEOPLE FEELING DECEIVED IF
THEY KNEW THE WHOLE STORY, BUT
RIGHT NOW YOU C
>> WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE IS YOU
NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOUR JUICE IS
COMING FROM.
>> Andrew: LAST YEAR, CANADIAN
FARMERS PRODUCED MORE THAN
345,000 TONS OF APPLES.
THAT'S MORE THAN 40% OF ALL
FRUIT PRODUCED IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND SO WHEN YOU BUY JUICE AND
SEE SHINY RED MACINTOSH OR WORDS
LIKE CANADA CHOICE ON THE
CONTAINER, YOU MIGHT THINK IT'S
MADE WITH CANADIAN APPLE, BUT AS
WE SEE IN THIS "MARKETPLACE"
INVESTIGATION, YOU NEED TO LOOK
BEYOND THE PRODUCT LABEL.
>> BRAD SCHUYLER KNOWS HOW TO
PICK THEM.
NEXT TO NONE OF THE APPLES WILL
LINE UP FOR SALE IN CANS,
CARTONS OR JUICE BOXES.
>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD
FEEL DECEIVED IF THEY KNEW THE
WHOLE STORY.
BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN'T GET THE
WHOLE STORY.
>> Reporter: LESS AND LESS APPLE
JUICE IS MADE WITH CANADIAN
APPLES, DESPITE THE SUBTLE
HINTS, PHRASES AND LOGOS
SUGGESTING OTHERWISE.
>> THESE ARE MACINTOSH.
>> BUT ARE THESE APPLES
PRODUCED?
>> WE PICKED THESE LAST WEEK.
THERE IS LESS THAN 5 PERSZ
JUICE.
>> Reporter: THE REASON IS
SIMPLE.
CHEAP FOREIGN CONCENTRATE IS
FLOODING THE CANADIAN MARKET.
CHINA IS THE NUMBER ONE SUPPLIER
OF APPLE JUICE CONCENTRATE TO
CANADA.
HE BELIEVES LABELS NEED TO
CHANGE SO CANADIAN CONSUMERS CAN
BE SURE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE
DRINKING.
>> WE DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT
TO PUT WHERE THINGS ARE FROM,
WHY IS SOMEBODY GOING TO DO
THAT?
>> Reporter: CANADIAN LABEL LAWS
DO NOT REQUIRE COMPANIES MAKING
THE JUICE TO SAY WHERE THE
APPLES THAT WENT INTO MAKING
THAT CAME FROM.
>> I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN TELL
ME WHERE THE APPLES CAME FROM
THAT MADE THE JUICE?
>> YOU WANT THE COUNTRY OF
ORIGIN?
>> TO FIND OUT WHERE THE APPLES
ARE COMING FROM IN SOME OF
CANADA'S MOST POPULAR, WE CALL
THOSE ON THE LABEL.
CUSTOMER SERVICE ACTS TOLD
"MARKETPLACE", JUICES WERE
PRODUCED WITH APPLE CONCENTRATE
FROM COUNTRIES, INCLUDING CHINA,
POLE POLLND, NEW ZEALAND, AND
SOME FROM CANADA.
>> THIS IS THE AMERICAN ONE.
>> Reporter: CANADIANS DON'T
HAVE TO LOOK FOR FAR.
>> THE U.S., CHILLY, CHINA AND
TURKEY.
>> WHEN PRESSED ABOUT WHY IT
WON'T REQUIRE THE SAME OF
CANADIAN MANUFACTURERS, THIS
COUNTRY'S LABEL POLICE, THE
CANADIAN FOOD INSPECTION AGENCY,
DOESN'T THINK IT'S A PRIORITY
FOR ALL CONSUMERS.
>> FROM A REGULATORY
PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE MAKING THE
BALANCE BETWEEN BEING
PRESCRIPTIVE AND BEING ABLE TO
GIVE FLEXIBILITY TO CONSUMERS.
NOT ALL WANT THAT LEVEL OF
DETAIL AND SOME DO.
>> Reporter: SHE IS THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CFIA AND
BELIEVES CONSUMERS HAVE A ROLE
TO PLAY.
>> WE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO READ
THE LABELS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
NOT INFERRING CERTAIN THINGS
THAT ARE NOT INTENDED ON THE
LABEL.
>> Reporter: CANADIAN FOOD LABEL
LAWS ARE UNDERGOING A MASSIVE
REVIEW, BUT NO CHANGES ARE
PLANNED FOR APPLE JUICE.
IT'S WHY SCHULER'S FOCUS WILL
REMAIN ON GETTING FRESH APPLES
FOR EATING, NOT DRINKING.
>> Ian: STILL TO COME TONIGHT ON
"THE NATIONAL", TONY CLEMENT
SAYS HE WENT TO THE POLICE, NOT
ONCE BUT TWICE BECAUSE OF
INAPPROPRIATE EXCHANGE.
"AT ISSUE" IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT
THE SCANDAL AND HOW ANDREW
SCHEER AND THE CONSERVATIVE
PARTY HAVE REACTED.
>> CBC NEWS HAS DOCUMENTS THAT
SHOW CANADA'S AIR SAFETY SYSTEM
DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK.
>> THERE WERE INSPECTORS TO
CONDUCT HANDS-ON INVES
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS
HAPPENED.
I TOOK HIM AT HIS WORD THIS WAS
AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
SINCE THEN THERE HAVE BEEN
REPORTS OF OTHER INCIDENTS,
ALLEGATIONS.
>> THIS IS A SHOCK TO ME WHEN I
WAS MADE AWARE OF THE SITUATION.
AND THERE IS NO INDICATION THIS
SORT OF THING HAPPENED.
>> Rosemary: THAT WAS ANDREW
SCHEER BEFORE AND THEN AN HOUR
LATER AFTER A CAUCUS MEETING AND
THEN TODAY.
THE OPPOSITION LEADER HAS
CHANGED HIS RESPONSE AND
ULTIMATELY OUSTED TONY CLEMENT
FROM THE CONSERVATIVE CAUCUS.
HOW DOES THE PARTY HANDLE THIS.
"AT ISSUE" IS HERE TO DIG INTO
THAT.
ANDREW COYNE, ALTHIA RAJ, AND
PAUL WELLS.
GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY.
ANDREW, LET'S START WITH YOU, WE
DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO THE NITTY
GRITTY OF THE CASE, BECAUSE
THERE ARE MORE DETAILS, BUT THE
FACT THAT ANDREW SCHEER FIRST
ALLOWED TONY CLEMENT TO REMOVE
HIMSELF FROM COMMITTEES, GOT
MORE INFORMATION AND THEN ASKED
HIM TO LEAVE FROM CAUCUS, WHAT
DO YOU THINK OF THE RESPONSE?
>> I GUESS ONE THING WE LEARNED
IS IT'S UNUSUAL IF IT'S JUST ONE
TIME.
HE MAY HAVE BEEN CREDULOUS OR
WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO USE
TAKING HIM AT HIS WORD THE FIRST
TIME.
YOU WANT TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF
IT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SEEN TO
COVERING ANYTHING UP OR BEING
TOO SOFT.
IN THIS CASE, THERE WASN'T
REALLY QUESTIONS OF DUE PROCESS
INVOLVED.
ADMITTED HE'D BEEN INVOLVED IN
WHAT HE'D BEEN INVOLVED IN.
IT'S A MESSY SITUATION FOR
EVERYBODY.
I THINK THEY WERE SCRAMBLING TO
TRY TO DEAL WITH IT AND PERHAPS
THEY WERE BEHIND THE BALL.
>> Rosemary: WHAT DO YOU THINK
OF THE WAY THAT ANDREW SCHEER
HANDLED IT AND RESPONDED TO IT?
>> I'M OF TWO MINDS.
IF YOU TAKE THE LEADER AT HIS
WORD, HE ACTED DECISIVELY FACED
WITH THE ALLEGATIONS HE THOUGHT
HE WAS FACING, THAT MR. CLEMENT
WAS BEING ALLEGEDLY EXTORTED BY
A FOREIGN ACTOR, WHO SOUGHT TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HIS
INFIDELITIES AND THEN DUMPED HIM
AS JUSTICE CRITIC AND PULLED HIM
FROM THE NATIONAL SECURITY
COMMITTEE.
BUT THEN IF YOU PAIR THAT WITH
WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM RACHEL
CURRAN WHO WAS PRIME MINISTER
HARPER'S POLICY OF DIRECTOR
SAYING THE ALLEGATIONS ABOUT
CLEMENT WERE CIRCULATING FOR A
LONG TIME, IF THAT'S THE CASE,
WHY WOULD THEY HAVE APPOINTED
HIM TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY
COMMITTEE TO BEGIN WITH?
THAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT POSITIONS THAT A PARTY
GETS TO NOMINATE AND YOU WANT
THAT PERSON ABOVE REPROACH.
SO THERE ARE POSSIBLY QUESTIONS
ABOUT MR. SCHEER'S JUDGMENT IN
THAT REGARD.
I THINK THE BENCHMARK FOR HOW A
POLITICAL LEADER IS TO DEAL WITH
THESE THINGS, HAPPENED NOT
BECAUSE OF #METOO A YEAR AGO,
BUT REALLY IN THE WAY THAT
JUSTIN TRUDEAU WHEN HE WAS
LEADER OF THE LIBERALS OUSTED
ANDREWS AND PA SETTY.
THEN YOU REALIZE THERE IS ZERO
TOLERANCE AND THAT POLITICS IS
ALWAYS INVOLVED.
EVEN THOUGH THE PRIME MINISTER
HAS NOT LIVED UP TO THAT
BENCHMARK HE SET FOR KENT HEHR
AND HUNTER TOOTOO, THERE ARE A
LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND THE OUST
OF MR. TOOTOO, THAT YOU HAVE TO
TAKE THESE SERIOUSLY AND YOU
SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING AND
PEOPLE WON'T TRUST YOU BY
DEFAULT.
SO TRANSPARENCY IS DEFINITELY
SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO
INSTILL.
WHEN IT'S NOT THERE, WHETHER
IT'S A STAFFER LIKE GAGNON IN
THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE OR
KHAN, THERE IS AN EXPECTATION
THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY,
PEOPLE WILL GET AN ANSWER WHY
SOMEBODY WAS OUSTED.
>> Rosemary: YOU'VE GIVEN LOTS
OF DIFFERENT NAMES OF INCIDENTS
HAPPENED AND THEY'RE ALL VARYING
DEGREES.
I WONDER, PAUL, IF IT WAS THE
FACT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF
EXTORTION ATTEMPT, AT LEAST
ACCORDING TO TONY CLEMENT, THAT
LED TO THIS?
BECAUSE ORDINARY, IT'S NOT CLEAR
WHAT IT IS, IT'S A CONSENSUAL
RELATIONSHIP AND WHAT IS HE
BEING THROWN OUT OF CAUCUS FOR?
>> IT IS THAT HE OPENED HIMSELF
UP TO -- SINCE THE ATTACKS
AGAINST HIM, THAT COMPROMISED
HIS FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
HE WAS BEING BLACKMAILED.
THE ASTONISHING THING WAS
SOMETHING SIMILAR HAPPENED,
ACCORDING TO THE REPORT IN "THE
TORONTO STAR", SEVERAL WEEKS
BEFORE THE MOST RECENT INCIDENT
AND HE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY
LEARNED THE HARD WAY HE WAS
OPENING UP TO THIS SORT OF
EXTORTION.
IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY CASE.
AND ALETHEA SAYS THERE IS ZERO
TOLERANCE, BUT IN SOME CASES
THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT TRUE.
IT LOOKS LIKE ANDREW SCHEER
DIDN'T WANT TO PUNISH TONY
CLEMENT TOO HARSHLY.
HE'S NEVER BEEN ONE OF THE
PARTY'S BEST PERFORMERS, BUT
HE'S BEEN WELL REGARDED AND
ESSENTIALLY CHARITYABLY REGARDED
BY A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW
THE PARTY.
AND I THINK THAT LOAD THE
LEADER'S HAND IN METING OUT THE
PUNISHMENT AND THAT'S WHY THIS
IS AWFUL NEWS FOR THE
CONSERVATIVES.
>> Rosemary: DOES IT DO ANY
LASTING DAMAGE TO THE PARTY?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
I MEAN, THERE HAVE BEEN CASES ON
BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE,
INCLUDING THE CASE OF THE PRIME
MINISTER HIMSELF, WHO WAS
ACCUSED OF GROPING SOMEONE,
NEVER BOTHERED TO PROPERLY DENY
IT.
SO THERE IS ALL KINDS OF
SHIFTING STANDARDS INVOLVED
HERE.
BUT I THINK AS LONG AS IT'S
CONTAINED TO THIS, WE DON'T HAVE
A RASH OF SIMILAR CASES, I DON'T
SEE WHY WE WOULD.
I DON'T SEE IT BEING A HUGE
DAMAGE TO THE PARTY.
>> Rosemary: I WANT TO SWITCH
GEARS TO TALK ABOUT THE
MIDTERMS, BECAUSE INEVITABLY
THAT HAS IMPACT HERE THAT WE'RE
ALL TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF IN
THESE EARLY DAYS.
HERE'S WHAT TRUDEAU AND THE
PRESIDENT SAID JUST THE DAY
AFTER.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: IT'S SOMETHING WE LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE NEW
CONGRESS ON A BROAD RANGE OF
ISSUES AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
>> QUICK QUESTIONEN OTT USMCA,
HAVE YOU REPAIRED YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH PRIME MINISTER
TRUDEAU?
>> YES, I HAVE, WE HAVE A VERY
GOOD RELATIONSHIP.
>> Rosemary: PAUL, IN SPITE OF
ALL THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE
RELATIONSHIP IS SO GOOD, BUT
IT'S FUNCTIONING, DOES WHAT
HAPPEN ON TUESDAY NIGHT CHANGE
ANYTHING FOR CANADA?
DO WE NEED TO CHANGE STRATEGY,
APPROACH?
GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS?
>> WELL, THE NEW DEMOCRAT
CONTROLLED HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES HAS TO DECIDE
WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT USMCA, THE
TRAIT AGREEMENT AND THERE ARE
RUMOURS THEY'RE NOT THRILLED
WITH IT.
IN ITSELF, THAT'S NOT A HORRIBLE
THING.
WE'D JUST BE STUCK WITH THE OLD
NAFTA, BY MOST ACCOUNTS MOST
CANADIAN BUSINESSES PREFERRED
ANYWAY.
IF IN A CONFRONTATION WITH THE
DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE, THE
PRESIDENT DECIDES HE'S GOING TO
ABROGATE NAFTA, BUT THAT WOULD
BE A REALLY BAD DAY AT THE
OFFICE AND SHOULDN'T BE COUNTED
AS A LIKELY OUTCOME.
OBJECTIVELY THE PRESIDENT TOOK A
SETBACK.
HE LOST THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES AND SEVERAL
GOVERNORSHIPS, IT WAS A MEDIUM
BAD NIGHT FOR THE PRESIDENT.
BUT HE LIVES IN HIS OWN HEAD AND
THINKS HE SCORED A VICTORY.
HE IS LIKELY TO BE EVEN LESS
IMPEDED BY OTHER PEOPLE'S
EXPECTATION OF NORMAL BEHAVIOR
THAN BEFORE.
YOU SAW THAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE
PRESS CORPS.
>> IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THIS IS
HOW HE REACTS TO THAT.
POSSIBLY HE JUST SORT OF FORGETS
ABOUT US ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE HE
HAS ENOUGH GOING ON?
>> THE PRESIDENT IS NOT GOING TO
FORGET USMCA.
THIS IS SOMETHING HE WANTS TO
WAVE AROUND.
THIS IS AN INTERESTING POSITION
FOR THE TRUDEAU LIBERALS AND THE
EMBASSY AND D.C.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FIRST TIME
LEGISLATORS IN THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES THAT I'M SURE
THE AMBASSADOR WANTS TO GET A
BETTER SENSE OF WHERE THEY STAND
ON USMCA.
I THINK FROM WHAT I'VE HEAD AND
PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN TO, NOBODY
EXPECTS A QUICK VOTE.
BUT THERE IS A RISK THERE IS NO
VOTE BEFORE WE HEAD INTO A
FEDERAL ELECTION NEXT YEAR.
THEN I THINK THIS IS WHERE NAFTA
2.0 COULD GET INSERTED INTO THE
ELECTION DEBATE, LIKE WHAT WOULD
ANDREW SCHEER CHANGE ABOUT NAFTA
2.0?
THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE
KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR THE
MONTHS TO COME.
>> Rosemary: ANDREW, WHAT DO YOU
THINK CHANGES OR DOESN'T?
>> WE DON'T KNOW.
IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE
MAKEUP OF THE PARTICULAR TYPES
OF DEMOCRATS.
ON THE WHOLE, IT LOOKS LIKE MORE
MODERATES THAN RADICALS ELECTED
TO THE DEMOCRATS.
IF WE WERE NEGOTIATED FROM
SCRATCH, THERE MIGHT BE
WORRISOME, BUT IT'S CHANGING.
YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC OPINION
POLLS, REPUBLICANS, BECAUSE
DONALD TRUMP IS AGAINST FREE
TRADE, HAVE TRADED AGAINST FREE
TRADE AND DEMOCRATS HAVE SHIFTED
AGAINST REPUBLICANS.
SO THERE IS FREE TRADE SENTIMENT
AMONG DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THESE
DAYS.
I THINK WHAT YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE
IS WE'LL GET CAUGHT UP IN THE
HORSE TRADING THAT GOES ON IN
CONGRESS ALL THE TIME AND THERE
WILL BE CONDITIONS AND DEMANDS
ATTACHED.
AND CHANGES THAT WILL BE ASKED
FOR.
THAT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
HOW THE ADMINISTRATION RESPONDS.
DO THEY CUT A DEAL?
NO, WE HAVE A DEAL WITH THE
CANADIANS, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT.
IT ADDS UNCERTAINTY.
IT MEANS WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK
TO LOBBYING THE VARIOUS CONGRESS
MEMBERS THE WAY WE WERE DOING
BEFORE, SO IT WILL CONTINUE TO
THAT UNCERTAINTY, BUT OTHER THAN
THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND
SEE.
>> Rosemary: PAUL, I'LL END WITH
YOU, DO YOU THINK IT DELAYS THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF NAFTA FOR THE
REASONS THAT ANDREW PUT OUT
THERE, THINGS ARE JUST GOING TO
BE HARDER TO GET THEM FINALIZED?
>> UNTIL IT'S IMPLEMENTED AND
PASSES A VOTE IN THE CONGRESS
AND IT'S IMPLEMENTED, IT'S
SIDING AROUND IN THE IDLE HANDS
AND SOMEBODY MIGHT BE ATTEMPTED
TO OPPOSE IT, JUST AS WE SAW IN
EUROPEAN LEGISLATURES WITH CETA
TRADE AGREEMENT.
AND SO LOOK, A QUICK
RATIFICATION WOULD BE BETTER,
BUT -- I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, I
DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS ARISING,
BUT IT'S BEEN A LOUSY YEAR FOR
PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT PREDICTION.
>> Rosemary: PARTICULARLY WITH
ANYTHING DOWN THERE.
>> GEORGE SCHULTZ SAID NOTHING
IS EVER SETTLED IN THIS TOWN,
MEANING WASHINGTON.
EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS IN PLAY,
EVEN WHEN YOU THINK IT'S DEALT
WITH.
WORDS TO LIVE BY.
>> Rosemary: WE'LL LEAVE IT
THERE.
THANKS, EVERYBODY.
BE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THE "AT
ISSUE" PODCAST.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLITICIANS
VERSUS THE PRESS.
WE'LL DIG INTO THE LATEST CLASH
OF TRUMP WITH REPORTERS.
cbcnews.ca/THE NATIONAL.
>> THE "AT ISSUE" PANEL LEAVES
YOU HUNGRY FOR A CONVERSATION,
WE HOSTED AN VENT.
CHRYSTIA FREELAND JOINED ROSIE,
KEITH BOAG AND JOURNALIST FROM
THE "WASHINGTON POST".
THEY DUG A LITTLE DEEPER INTO
THE STATE OF THE CANADA-U.S.
RELATIONS.
>> IS THERE EVIDENCE, THOUGH,
THAT CANADIANS CAN TRUST DONALD
TRUMP?
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IS
REALLY A QUESTION FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
AND IT IS A QUESTION --
>> Rosemary: NO, NO, THAT THAT'S
A QUESTION FOR YOU TOO.
>> NO, NO -- I THINK IT'S A
QUESTION FOR THE AMERICANS.
THE AMERICANS ARE THE ONES WHO
ELECT HIM.
>> Rosemary: GIVEN THE WAY HE
HAS BEHAVED, YOU HAVE TO TAKE
HIM AT HIS WORD WHEN HE SAYS
WE'RE GOING TO SIGN THIS.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THIS IS A
PERSON WHO KEEPS HIS PROMISES.
I DON'T THINK.
AM I WRONG?
>> I WOULDN'T DISAGREE WITH
THAT.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Rosemary: SO THEN WHY SHOULD
CANADIANS FEEL CONFIDENT THAT
YOU GUYS ARE OK TRUSTING HIM?
>> WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU
PUT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WORDS
IN MY MOUTH, NONE OF WHICH I
WILL SIGN UP TO.
>> Ian: DON'T YOU WANT TO SEE
MORE OF THAT CONVERSATION?
YOU CAN TOMORROW ON CBC NEWS
NETWORK AT 8:00 EASTERN.
YOU CAN SEE PART OF IT HERE ON
"THE NATIONAL" TOMORROW.
>> Andrew: STILL AHEAD,
TRANSPORT CANADA SAYS THE SYSTEM
THAT ALLOWS AIRLINES TO REPORT
THEIR OWN SAFETY ISSUES IS
BETTER THAN THE OLD SYSTEM OF
RANDOM SPOT CHECKS BY
INSPECTORS, BUT CBC NEWS HAS
DOCUMENTS SUGGESTING THERE IS
MORE TO THE STORY THAN THAT.
>> SEEMS TO ME IT'S A VERY
SERIOUS SITUATION WHICH I
>> When we last left it,
James found the incriminating
cell phone bill, but then
Hillary confronted him with his
affair with her twin.
>> I can not get enough
of this relationship.
>> Okay, here we go.
[chewing]
>> Okay.
[muffled arguing]
>> ..valuable [beep] all over
the place. It's a room full of
bull [beep] right now, Hillary.
>> I want a divorce.
>> Plot twist.
>> God I love when they drink.
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>> Final call for Tokyo.
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>> MY GOD.
I AM SO SCARED.
>> Ian: A TERRIFYING ESCAPE IN
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN EVACUATED AS A FIERCE
WILDFIRE SPREAD QUICKLY.
STATE OF EMERGENCY WAS DECLARED
AND SO FAR AROUND A THOUSAND
STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED,
INCLUDING HUNDREDS OF HOMES AND
HOSPITAL.
TWO FIREFIGHTERS AND A NUMBER OF
OTHER PEOPLE INJURED.
>>> THERE HAVE BEEN PROTESTS
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES TONIGHT
TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR SPECIAL
COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER.
IT COMES AFTER DONALD TRUMP
FIRED ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF
SESSIONS YESTERDAY.
MANY WORRY THAT HIS REPLACEMENT
COULD SLOW DOWN OR EVEN FREEZE
THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.
>> CHRISTMAS SEASON IS
APPROACHING AND THAT'S WHEN
CANADIANS USE CANADA POST MORE
THAN ANY OTHER TIME.
UNION AND THE MANAGEMENT KNOW
THIS, BUT IF WE DON'T SEE
SIGNIFICANT RESOLUTION SHORTLY,
ALL OPTIONS WILL BE ON THE TABLE
FOR RESOLVING THAT.
>> Ian: THE PRIME MINISTER
SHOWING SIGNS OF LOSING PATIENCE
WITH THE CANADA POST DISPUTE.
AND APPARENTLY CONTEMPLATING
GOVERNMENT ACTION.
FOR NEARLY THREE WEEKS, ROTATING
STRIKES SHUT DOWN OPERATIONS IN
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
>>> AND AFTER THE PROTESTS, SHE
HAS BEEN SENT BACK.
CONVICTED KILLER TERRI-LYNNE
McCLINTIC NOW IN AN EDMONTON
PRISON AFTER SERVING TIME AT AN
INDIGENOUS HEALING LODGE.
IN 2010, SHE WAS SENTENCED TO
LIFE IN PRISON FOR THE MURDER OF
8-YEAR-OLD TORI STAFFORD.
HER TRANSFER TO THE LODGE
SPARKED PUBLIC OUTRAGE AND
POLITICAL DEBATE.
>>> THERE ARE NEW QUESTIONS
TONIGHT ABOUT AIR SAFETY IN THIS
COUNTRY, TRACING BACK TO
DOCUMENTS THAT CAME TO LIGHT
AROUND A PROMINENT CANADIAN
AIRLINE.
AIR TRANSAT.
THE CONCERNS GO BACK TO 2015.
WE'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THEY MEAN
TODAY.
BUT IT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND
HOW AIR SAFETY REGULATIONS HAVE
CHANGED IN THIS COUNTRY.
ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, TRANSPORT
CANADA MOVED TOWARD AN APPROACH
CALLED SAFETY MANAGEMENT
SYSTEMS.
IT WAS TO HAVE AIRLINES COME UP
WITH PROTOCOLS TO IDENTIFY RISK
AND FIX THEM.
THE HOPE WAS THAT IT WOULD BE
PROACTIVE, AN EFFICIENT WAY TO
SOLVE PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY
BECAME BIG PROBLEMS.
BUT ACTUAL INSPECTIONS TAPERED
OFF AND INSTEAD, NOW IT FOCUSES
MORE ON THE S.M.S. PLAN, MAKING
SURE AIRLINES ARE LOOKING FOR
THE RIGHT THINGS, BUT THOSE
PLANS ONLY WORK WHEN THE
AIRLINES ACTUALLY DOCUMENT
POTENTIAL PROBLEMS AND REPORT
THEM TO TRANSPORT CANADA WHERE
REQUIRED.
THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS AIR
TRANSAT FELL SHORT BACK IN 2015.
SOMETHING AS CBC KATIE NICHOLSON
SHOWS US SOME FIND TROUBLING
TODAY.
>> YOU'RE ALREADY ON VACATION.
>> Reporter: IT SPECIALIZES IN
EXOTIC GETAWAYS, DESIGNED TO
GIVE CANADIANS REST AND
RELAXATION.
WHAT TRAVELERS MIGHT NOT FIND
SOOTHING, THE RESULTS OF THIS
REVIEW OF THE AIRLINES
OPERATION, OBTAINED THROUGH
ACCESS TO INFORMATION REQUEST.
IT FOUND PROBLEMS WITH THE
AIRLINE SAFETY, MAINTENANCE AND
TRAINING PROCEDURES.
IN ALL, INSPECTORS MADE 22
FINDINGS.
14 OF THEM CONSIDERED MAJOR.
AMONG THOSE, 41 OF 42 CONTRACT
MAINTENANCE WORKERS IN TORONTO
AND MONTREAL DID NOT MEET ANY OF
THE APPROVED TRAINING
REQUIREMENTS.
ROUTINE CHECKS ON 737s WERE
MISSED BECAUSE PLANES WERE ON
FOUR DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE
SCHEDULES.
AND THERE WERE REPORTING
PROBLEMS.
WHEN CORRODED HINGE PINS WERE
DISCOVERED ON A RUDDER, THAT
PROBLEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN PASSED
ONTO TRANSPORT CANADA, BUT
INSPECTORS DISCOVERED IT WASN'T.
>> IT READS BAD.
>> Reporter: THE PILOT
ASSOCIATION SAYS IT'S SURPRISED
TRANSPORT CANADA DIDN'T SUSPEND
THE AIRLINE.
>> THE RESPONSE ISN'T WHAT I
WOULD HAVE EXPECTED, MORE ALONG
THE LINES OF NOTICE OF
SUSPENSION, TO PUSH THE OPERATOR
TO FIX THE ISSUES.
THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A HARD TIME.
EITHER THEY ARE MAJOR FINDINGS
OR THEY AREN'T.
>> Reporter: AIR TRANSAT SAID
REQUIRED CORRECTIONS WERE MADE
SWIFTLY.
THIS MAN PRESIDED OVER THE
INQUIRY INTO THE AIR ONTARIO
CRASH THAT KILLED 24 PEOPLE NEAR
DRYDEN.
HE RECOMMENDED TRANSPORT CANADA
BRING IN S.M.S., OR SAFETY
MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, BUT THAT WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE IN ADDITION TO
REGULAR INSPECTIONS, NOT INSTEAD
OF THEM.
>> AND THAT HAS GONE BY THE
BOARDS.
THERE ARE INSUFFICIENT
INSPECTORS TO CONDUCT HANDS-ON
INVESTIGATIONS.
>> Reporter: THE AIR TRANSAT
REPORT SIGNALS SOMETHING NEEDS
TO CHANGE.
>> I THINK THAT WE'RE IN A
POSITION WHERE WE NEED ANOTHER
COMMISSION OF INQUIRY INTO THE
STATE OF THE SAFETY IN CANADA AS
WE DID FOLLOWING THE DRYDEN
CASH.
>> Reporter: WE ASKED
TRANSPORTATION MINISTER MARC
GARNEAU IF HE THOUGHT AN INQUIRY
WAS NECESSARY.
HE DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION,
BUT HIS OFFICE SAID THE CANADA
AIR SAFETY RECORD DEMONSTRATES
THE CURRENT APPROACH TO SAFETY
IS WORKING.
>> Ian: JUST AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL", OUR "MOMENT OF THE
DAY".
THE CITY OF CALGARY CRACKS OPEN
A TIME CAPSULE THAT IS ALMOST AS
OLD AS THE PROVINCE OF ALBERTA.
>> THIS IS NOT BURIED TREASURE.
THERE IS NO MICHIGAN J. FROG
COMING OUT EITHER.
THESE ARE RECORDS OF PEOPLE.
THESE ARE THE
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>> Final call for Tokyo.
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[screams]
>> Do you ever solve cases
the coppers can't?
>> It's my speciality.
[flash]
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>> Ian: FOR 110 YEARS, THIS
COPPER BOX HAS BEEN TUCKED AWAY
IN AN ALCOVE UNDER THE
CORNERSTONE OF CALGARY'S OLD
CITY HALL.
IT'S A TIME CAPSULE PLACED THERE
SEPTEMBER 15, 1908, WHEN THE
BUILDING WAS BEING BUILT.
DUE TO AGE AND DETERIORATING
SANDSTONE, THE LANDMARK IS
UNDERGOING AN EXTENSIVE
RENOVATION AND TODAY THE CAPSULE
WAS RETRIEVED AND OPENED FOR THE
FIRST TIME AND THAT'S OUR
"MOMENT OF THE DAY."
>> OUR LUCKY DAY.
>> WOW.
>> DON'T GET YOUR FACE TOO CLOSE
IN THERE.
[LAUGHTER]
>> IT WAS VERY EXCITING TO SEE
THE LID COME OFF IT TODAY.
I WAS NERVOUS THAT IT WOULDN'T
COME OFF EASILY.
YOU CAN HAVE A LOOK AT THE A TOP
OF THE BOX, BUT WE CANNOT GO
INSIDE THE BOX.
THE ITEMS ARE TOO FRAGILE.
>> IT'S NOT BURIED TREASURE.
THERE ARE NOT JEWELS IN HERE, I
DON'T THINK.
THERE'S NO MICHIGAN J. FROG
COMING OUT EITHER, BUT THESE ARE
RECORDS OF PEOPLE.
THESE ARE RECORDS OF THE PEOPLE
WHO DREAMT BIG.
WHO WANTED FUTURE GENERATIONS TO
BENEFIT FROM THEIR INVESTMENT
AND FROM THEIR WORK.
WE'RE ALLERGIC TO SMALL DREAMS
HERE.
AND BUILDING THIS BUILDING WAS
ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.
AND I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE THE
HISTORICAL RECORD OF THAT.
>> Ian: I LOVE TIME CAPSULES,
ANDREW.
MAYOR NENSHI TALKED ABOUT NO
JEWELS, HIGHEST VALUE COIN WAS
25 CENTS.
>> Andrew: WHAT I THINK IS
INTERESTING IS TO READ THE
NEWSPAPERS THEY PUT IN THERE.
IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO SEE WHAT THEY
THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT AT THE
TIME.
THE ISSUES AT PLAY.
WHAT WAS CONTENTIOUS AT THE
TIME.
WHAT WASN'T CONTENTIOUS.
YOU NEVER KNOW.
THERE'S ALWAYS A DISCONNECT
BETWEEN THEN AND NOW.
>> Ian: I LOVE OLD NEWSPAPERS
MANY THAT'S IF THEY'RE STILL
INTACT, RIGHT?
>> Andrew: YOU MENTIONED THE
DETERIORATION OF THE BUILDING
ITSELF.
THAT SAME PROBLEM HAS EVIDENTLY
CAUSED SOME DAMAGE TO THE
CONTENTS OF THAT TIME CAPSULE.
HOPEFULLY THEY MANAGE TO RESTORE
THAT, TOO.
>> Ian: WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN
2018 THAT WANT TO PUT TOGETHER A
TIME CAPSULE FOR 2118?
WHAT WOULD IT BE, AN iPhone?
MAKE SURE TO PUT IN A CHARGER AS
WELL.
>> Andrew: THERE YOU GO.
>> Ian: THAT'S "THE NATIONAL"
FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 8.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Andrew: GOOD NIGHT.
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