A JUDGE IN NORTHERN IRELAND HAS MADE A VERY VERY GOOD RULING IN
A CASE INVOLVING A 15-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS GIVEN AN ABORTION PILL
BY HER MOTHER AND THE MOTHER IS NOW FACING PROSECUTION AS A
RESULT.
THIS CASE HAS TO DO WITH LAWYERS WHO WANT TO QUESTION WHETHER OR
NOT IT'S OKAY TO PROSECUTE THE MOTHER DIED IN NORTHERN IRELAND,
ABORTION IS ILLEGAL IN ALMOST EVERY CASE UNLESS THERE IS AN
EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCE AND PEOPLE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE THE
ABORTION PILL, AND SO WHEN THE 15-YEAR-OLD WHO IS UNNAMED TO
PROTECT HER PRIVACY BECAME PREGNANT, THE MOTHER WENT
ONLINE, FOUND AN ORGANIZATION THAT SELLS THE ABORTION PILL
ESPECIALLY TO COUNTRIES WHERE ABORTION IS RESTRICTION
STARTED AND GAVE IT TO HER DAUGHTER.
THIS GROUNDBREAKING CASE IS ACTUALLY SET TO FOCUS
ATTENTION ON NORTHERN IRELAND'S ABORTION LEGISLATION.
A JUDGE IN BELFAST GAVE PERMISSION FOR JUDICIAL
REVIEW TO BE HEARD OVER THE PROSECUTION OF THE MOTHER,
STATING THAT THE CASE RAISED ISSUES OF CONSIDERABLE
PUBLIC IMPORTANCE AND PUBLIC DEBATE.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS ALL ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES
SENSE TO PROSECUTE THE MOTHER IN THE CASE.
LAWYERS ARGUED THAT COMPELLING THE CHILD TO GO AHEAD WITH
THE PREGNANCY WOULD'VE BREACHED HER HUMAN RIGHTS; AND BY
EXTENSION THE DECISION TO PROSECUTE HER MOTHER FOR
HELPING HER ACCESS MEDICATION ALSO AMOUNTED TO A BREACH
OF HER HUMAN RIGHTS AND THOSE OF HER MOTHER.
THE REVIEW WILL LOOK AT WHETHER THE DECISION BY POLICE TO ACCESS
HER MEDICAL RECORDS WITHOUT HER PERMISSION REPRESENTED
REACH OF HER HUMAN RIGHTS AS WELL.
THE WAY THAT THAT HAPPENED WAS THE GIRL WAS DEALING WITH
AN ABUSIVE BOY WHO IMPREGNATED HER AND HE WAS SAYING THAT
IF YOU GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE BABY, I AM GOING TO GO AND STAB
THE BABY TO DAD, WHATEVER IT IS AND SO SHE WAS FREAKING OUT.
SHE WAS IN A LOT OF MENTAL DISTRESS AND SO THE MOTHER
TOOK HER TO A DOCTOR, A GENERAL PRACTITIONER AND LET THE
DOCTOR KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
IT WAS COMPLETELY OPEN AND HONEST WITH THE DOCTOR
ABOUT HOW HER DAUGHTER HAD TAKEN THE ABORTION PILL AND THE
DOCTOR WENT AHEAD AND ALERTED AUTHORITIES ABOUT A DIET
THAT POINT, AUTHORITIES ACCESS THE GIRLS MEDICAL RECORDS
WITHOUT PERMISSION.
THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM.
IT IS HARD FOR ME TO TAKE THIS ISSUE AS ONE WHERE WE
ARE SUPPOSED TO DEBATE.
THE LAWS IN NORTHERN IRELAND ARE WRONG IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS.
1ST OF ALL, ABORTION IS A MEDICAL PROCEDURE, IT IS
NOT A MORAL ISSUE, AND IF YOU THINK IT IS A MORAL ISSUE,
THAT IS YOUR OPINION MAN BUT NOT EVERYONE IN NORTHERN
IRELAND AGREES WITH THE SAME RELIGION YOU DO LET ALONE
THE SAME INTERPRETATION OF THAT RELIGION.
AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT YOU ARE WRONG
ABOUT YOUR OWN RELIGION.
IN THE BIBLE IT SAYS THIS
EXACT THING, IN NUMBERS FIVE, GO READ IT FOR YOURSELF.
HE SAYS IF YOU THINK YOUR WIFE CHEATED ON YOU, GIVE HER A
TOXIN AND IT WILL CAUSE A MISCARRIAGE.
IN THE BIBLE, YOU GIVE HER A TOXIN AND IF SHE DID CHEAT
ON YOU, SHE HAS A MISCARRIAGE AND GOOD, SHE DESERVED IT
FOR CHEATING ON YOU.
NOT ME SAYING IT, IT'S GOD SAYING IT.
IT IS IN THE BIBLE, GOD IS PRO-ABORTION.
GOD DID ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING HERE BUT IT WAS A
LITTLE MORE PUNITIVE.
SPARE ME WHAT YOU THINK ARE YOUR MORAL CONCERNS WHEN IN
FACT, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY WRONG BY YOUR OWN MORALITY.
IT IS HILARIOUS AND REALLY SAD.
IN TERMS OF NORTHERN IRELAND HAVING DIFFERENT LOSS IN THE UK,
THAT IS DEEPLY FRUSTRATING AND I UNDERSTAND IS COMPLICATED IN
THAT RELATIONSHIP, THE LOOK, I AM AN AMERICAN AND I BELIEVE IN
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE THAT I THINK ANY TIME WHEN
SOMEBODY SAYS MY RELIGION SHOULD YOU ALL, AND THEY ARE
TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT THE RELIGION ON TOP OF IT, IT IS
HORRIBLE DIET IS HORRIBLE WHEN THE TALIBAN DOES AND IT IS
HORRIBLE WHEN CATHOLICS IN NORTHERN IRELAND DO IT.
CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT A
15-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS IMPREGNATED BY A BOY, ONE YEAR OLDER
THAN HER WHO WAS ABUSIVE.
SHE IS DESPERATE AND SCARED.
THE MOTHER HELD HER DAUGHTER ALAN MADE A DECISION THAT SHE
FELT WAS BEST FOR HER DAUGHTER AND FOR THEIR FAMILY AND TO HAVE
THE GOVERNMENT GET INVOLVED AND TREAT THIS MOTHER AS IF SHE IS
SOME CRAZY CRIMINAL, BY THE WAY, WOMEN WHO HAVE HAD ILLEGAL
ABORTIONS IN NORTHERN IRELAND HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH SERIOUS
CRIMES, INCLUDING MURDER CHARGES.
IN THEORY, THEY CAN GET LIFE IMPRISONMENT NORTHERN IRELAND.
THIS MOM IS FACING 10 YEARS IN PRISON FOR HELPING HER
15-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WHO DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THAT PREGNANCY GO
TO TERM.
THE DRUG IS BIOMEDICAL ACCOUNTS ACROSS THE WORLD SAFE AND
IN HER CASE, IT WAS SAFE.
IT IS INSANE TO ME THAT A SIMPLE MEDICAL PROCEDURE I KNOW, SINCE
A GROUP IN AMERICA AND IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS IN NORTHERN
IRELAND GREW UP IN A CULTURE SO YOU THINK THAT IS THE ONLY
REALITY.
BUT YOU KNOW, AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD, THEY DON'T THINK
ABORTION IS REMOTELY A MORAL ISSUE DIET DOESN'T SAY
ANYTHING ABOUT YOU.
THIS INTEGRAL PERSON IS NOT A BAD PERSON, HER MOM IS NOT
A BAD PERSON OR A MORAL PERSON FOR HELPING HER.
THEY DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING, THEY MADE A DECISION ABOUT
THEIR LIVES.
IN THE WESTERN WORLD, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE IN FREEDOM?
OR ARE WE JUST A DIFFERENT VERSION OF AL QAEDA?
BY THE WAY, THE WAY THAT THESE LAWS IN NORTHERN IRELAND
ARE WRITTEN, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO OUT FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS
WHO WEREN'T IN A DESPERATE SITUATION AND HAD AN ABORTION.
LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, AND THIS MADE ME SO ANGRY.
APPARENTLY LAST YEAR A WOMAN WAS PROSECUTED AFTER HER
ROOMMATES REPORTED HER TO POLICE FOR SEEKING THE SAME PILLS
TO TERMINATE HER PREGNANCY AT HOME.
HER ROOMMATES ARE TERRIBLE PEOPLE.
HORRIBLE PEOPLE.
WORSE THAN THAT, IF YOU ASKED ME, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY
IT'S WORSE, IS THAT IN THE CASE OF THE Ä15,
THEIR DOCTOR TURNED THEM IN.
THE DOCTORS ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO TURN IN ANYONE WHO THEY
FIND OUT SICK THIS PILL.
BUT WHAT IS I DO?
THAT TURNS THE DOCTORS INTO SECRET AGENTS OF THE
GOVERNMENT AND IT MAKES PEOPLE RELUCTANT TO GO TO THEIR
DOCTORS AND ALSO TO BE HONEST WITH THE DOCTORS.
LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A COMPLICATION.
BUT IF YOU TELL THE DOCTOR WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, HE MIGHT
TURN YOU WHEN AND PUT YOU IN PRISON, RIGHT?
IF YOU DON'T TELL THEM, YOU MIGHT BE ENDANGERING YOUR
HEALTH.
DON'T DO THAT THE DOCTORS.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO TO DOCTORS AND CONFIDE IN THEM, AND
THEN THE FINAL IRONY IS, WE ARE GOING TO TURN DOCTORS INTO LIKE
THE GESTAPO OF THE STATE, BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT
BECAUSE WE ARE MORAL.
BY THE WAY, THIS STORY IS AN INTERNATIONAL ONE TAKING
PLACE IN NORTHERN IRELAND.
HE SHOULD BE A CAUTIONARY TALE FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN THE UNITED
STATES BECAUSE UNDER WHAT CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
WON UNDER WHAT MEMBERS OF TRUMPS ADMINISTRATION WANTS, UNDER
WHAT TRUMP HIMSELF WANTS, THIS TYPE OF POLICY WOULD BE PUT
IN PLACE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
WHEN PEOPLE WONDER WHY SO MANY PEOPLE, WOMEN AND MEN GOT
TOGETHER PROCESS IN THE WOMEN'S MARCH, IT WAS BECAUSE WE
DON'T WANT TO GET TO THIS POINT.
WE WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO PROTECT INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY
AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR
OWN BODIES.
HERE IN AMERICA, WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT BACK AND WE'RE NOT
GOING TO LET THESE GUYS IMPOSE SHARIA LAW ON US WHETHER IT
IS SHARIA LAW FROM ISLAM OR SHARIA LAW FROM
CHRISTIANITY
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