Hello to everybody in the class. Hi guys. Yeah, I saw people waving. I like this technology,
I mean, I've never done this Skype thing with Mexico, never, it's my first time.
It's really amazing. So you already did a Skype this morning, I see you sent me a link.
Yeah, with Moscow, this was an interview with Russia Today.
Oh, OK.
And they wanted to talk about the war in Ukraine. And you know the good thing for me is I don't
have to travel to Moscow or to Mexico and we can just talk to each other, which is good.
That's the idea of peace research, you know, talk to each other and not bomb each other,
it's much cleverer.
And to share and disseminate this information.
Yes, yes, and to debate and to share ideas...I think life is interesting, it's a good time
to be alive.
Well, speaking of the peace research, so we've read part of NATO's Secret Armies and we know
you've published other material on oil and I didn't know until recently that you founded
the Swiss Institute for Peace and Energy Research (SIPER), can you very quickly tell us about
your institute? Ok, yes, I founded this institute here in
Switzerland in 2011 so its four years ago and because I'm convinced that there is a
link between energy on the one hand and oil, gas, nuclear energy, photovoltaic, wind and
on the other hand the war in Iraq for instance, the war in Afghanistan and the war in Libya,
so there is a link between peace and energy. I'm very much convinced that this is an important
area for research in the 21st century.
I guess let's go back to NATO's Secret Armies and even before that because I'm curious as
an educator, one of the reasons I do this is to get the students thinking and I believe
we need new generations of people like yourself and so what was it that made you start thinking
critically and begin questioning conventional narratives, you know, when you were a young
student?
I'm now 42 years old so it's quite some time ago, when I was young, but I was 25, I think
I was 25 years old when I had to write a thesis and I was studying history at Basel University
and I had to write a paper, like a 100 page long paper, a really long paper and I had
half a year time to research it. It was the final thesis on the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And then I went to the library and took all the books I could find on the topic and then
I found out that some authors said that the Cuban Missile Crisis is the fault of the Soviet
Union because the Soviet Union sent ships to Cuba with missiles, atomic missiles, I
mean, how crazy can you be and they sent these atomic weapons in the year 1962. And then
I read these books and I though �oh yeah, that's really crazy, the Soviets, they're
mad people� and it's incredible. And then I read another book which said, no, the Cuban
Missile Crisis, that's actually the Americans who are stupid because they tried to overthrow
the government of Fidel Castro. And they made an invasion, the Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961.
And you know, only this invasion which later triggered the Soviets to send missiles to
protect Fidel Castro. So really, it started not far away from Mexico, where my interest
into international politics was really awakened and then I thought well, um, wait a moment,
who's right? You have two different books. And that's, you know, ten different books
or websites today, and I think that's really the moment where everybody, every student
can wake up when he has a research topic and then he has two or three or four different
opinions on the same topic. And for me it was the Cuban Missile Crisis, but it can be
oil, it can be 9/11, it can be paramilitaries, it can be the war in Ukraine, it can be NATO,
it can be CIA torture, it can be many things OK, but I advise all students in your class
that they pick a topic and when they look at it that they realize many books deal with
the topic but these books come to completely different conclusions and that means for every
student that he has to make up his mind and that's the interesting thing about being a
scientist. And it's funny because we're learning this
semester in one of my classes about World War 2 history and the book that we were assigned
is from an American publishing company and in the book it clearly, you know, I wanted
to talk about false flag operations in a second, but in the book it says, and they know that
the Japanese dressed up as Chinese and attacked themselves on the railroads.
They did that. The Manchuria incident. You know it's such a lousy trick. It really is
a very lousy trick, but it works, I mean, you hit somebody and then you say somebody
else started it and then it all starts. It's actually something that students know on a
much smaller level of violence. They know that games are being played in groups, in
cities, in schools, in universities even, you know these games are being played but
if you look at the games that are being played internationally with false flag terrorism
it really is shocking that these things still go on but if you study it then you can understand
it and you always have to keep in mind that it's always maybe 5 or 10% of the global population
who have the chance to study these things and everybody else is unemployed or working
or they just don't have access to this knowledge.
And the scary thing was in our book, it clearly described what the Japanese did, how Hitler
did this, but it never talked about the U.S., you know, the U.S. was great and they totally
admitted the US false flag attacks like Pearl Harbor in a sense or the Lusitania.
But you know, that's something everybody has to wake up to. We have 200 states, all over
the world. And not all 200 states have the same power, I mean take Costa Rica and take
the U.S., they don't have the same power, everybody can see it. And then, obviously
you have Russia or you have Brazil or China you have U.S. or big countries like Germany
and then you ask yourself who is the most powerful country on this planet today? And
it clearly is the United States. So as a historian I always explain to my students or in interviews
or in lectures I always say the U.S. is an empire. The only question is, is it a benevolent
empire, a good empire that tries to help everybody or is it an empire that is just following
its own interests? And if you look at how you actually define an empire you have to
look at how big is its economy, take the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and obviously the GDP
of the U.S. is the biggest so you already have an indication that this is a powerful
country. Secondly, you look, what is the most important currency in the world and it's not
the Euro and it's not the Yen either it's the dollar. Ok, so they also have the most
important currency in the world. And then third you ask yourself who has the biggest
amount of aircraft carriers, everybody knows aircraft carriers, they're huge ships where
you can land a fighter jet on and it's the United States. They have 10 aircraft carriers
and the British have a few and the Russians have only one and the Chinese have only one,
they're very expensive. And then the fourth question you ask yourself is who actually
has the most military bases around the world? And you are all familiar with Guantanamo,
that's an American military base in Cuba. But that's not the only one, the have a military
base in Diego Garcia which is in the Indian Ocean, they have Bagram air force base in
Afghanistan, they have Rammstein which is in Germany, they have military bases in Italy,
they have obviously military bases in Japan and I don't know whether they have military
bases in Mexico.
As far as I know, no, but I do know they have a giant complex building in Mexico City where
they spy on us from Mexico City. Yeah, I mean that's where you have to listen
to Eduard Snowden who basically explained how that works with the spying and I think
he's very brave and courageous to come forward. He was only 29 years old so never think that
you can only make a difference when you're 60. Actually, when you're 60 it's too late.
But what I wanted to say is you have to understand that the U.S. is an empire and this force
of the empire stretches on even into books because you started with this question why
do we only learn about false flag operations from the Germans or the Japanese and not about
false flag operations of the U.S. because in the books printed in the United States
or written by a professor in the United States it will say the United States is sometimes
engaging in wars, yes, but only to help the people, they only do this for human rights.
And this is something which you can either believe or you can't believe. I don't believe
it. But, you know, I don't know how you guys in Mexico think about it. I mean there are
many people in the U.S. who don't believe it. I met Noam Chomsky once in Boston, he's
a professor there and he said you know it's all nonsense. It's not true, but an empire
has to say �I'm here to help.� They can never say �I'll try to get more power�
or �I'll try to get more money,� people wouldn't like that.
No, I find many Mexicans, we totally agree with your worldview as opposed to Americans
because I mean, you know what's going on in Mexico, we're living through this insecurity
and the state-sponsored terror, you know they killed 40 students last year.
Yeah I heard that, totally shocking, absolutely shocking. And I think that's why people in
Mexico understand that violence is a problem and here in Switzerland, people sometimes
think �oh you know, everything is fine, I have my job, my kids can go to school�
and I tell them, according to a new study, 1 million people have died since 2003. That's
a study of international physicians against or for the prevention of nuclear war, so these
are doctors, medics, those are the guys you go to when your knee is broken or when you
can't breathe well, I trust these guys, they are doctors. And they say 1 million people
died in Iraq since 2003 and obviously that's a war which the American empire started. And
I don't understand why you can't read that in the newspapers, you know, you just can't
because many people write newspapers, they don't want to lose their jobs and so they
only write nice things about news.
And that was my next point before asking about NATO's Secret Armies was why don't many people
follow, for example, your example, do you know personally or of any people who dared
to pursue the truth into such deep waters, you said you were afraid of losing your job,
I'm not sure, I met once the French geopolitics instructor, I can't pronounce his name very
well, Aymeric Chauprade, who is now a member of the National party in France. And I know
he published a book on geopolitics discussing 9/11 and he was blacklisted from French universities
and now he's doing OK, but do you know are many people speaking out or are they afraid
to lose their jobs? No, not many people speak out, many people
tell me things when we're offline, OK, when we're not in front of a camera, when we're
not at a podium, in a university room, when we're not, like at 12 o'clock at night when
everybody has had 3 glasses of wine. That's when people say �you know I don't think
we've been told the truth about the Iraq War. These are all lies, Bush and Cheney, they're
actually war criminals. I'm quite disgusted about CIA torture, I don't like the National
Security Agency spying on my mail.� That's when they say it, but during the day they
say you know, US democracy is trying to stabilize European security by sending troops to Germany
and reinforce NATO security. So you basically have two different sorts of languages, one
sort of language is the language which says, you know the empire is good, we have no problem
with the empire and the other form of language is when you're just in your small group and
you then really share what you really think. And I think that's wrong, I think, you know,
as researchers we should always put forward our own analysis. If we make an analysis,
I mean, I made an analysis about 9/11 and I came to the conclusion that this third building,
World Trade Center 7, that it collapsed but it was not hit by a plane and still today
I'm totally convinced that this building was not hit by a plane but it collapsed. So I
was then working at the ETH, the Center for Security Studies in Zurich, that's another
city here in Switzerland, and you know I said we must research this. And that was a huge
problem, everybody was scared. Some people said �no we shouldn't research this� and
I said �why not�? And they said because Switzerland will get into trouble. And I said
no, I don't think so. Then I said well you will get into trouble. People are very scared,
all over the globe and so if I have one message for everybody in the room, don't be scared,
don't be scared.
Ah well, someone's asking how have you succeeded, have you gotten into trouble, I mean, I guess
not because you're still going strong.
Yeah, I got into trouble. The problem is, you know I got my PhD in 2001, so before I
got my PhD I didn't say a word, never did an interview, never had a public lecture,
I just did my studies, I was reading my texts, I was just building my knowledge, that's really
what I advise everybody in the room, build up your knowledge, I mean, you're really lucky,
you have a professor who opens up your mind because you know some people, they will just
give you one sort of text and then you will basically be brainwashed. But you should read
as many different books from as many different perspectives as possible. I'm not saying that
you should believe me, what I'm saying is if you read my book, very nice, read another
one on NATO if you can, have a debate with people who think the U.S. is here to help
or have a debate with people who think the U.S. empire is evil or you know, just go into
the debate, that is science, dig deep. And then, to the question of the student, you
will come at one point to the moment where you face your fear, OK, everybody has fear.
I have fear, you have fear, everybody has fear. And the fear comes in two forms. One
form is that I will be completely bankrupt, OK, I will have no job and no money and I
will starve to death. That's a real fear, every human being has this fear. And when
I had this debate at ETH, they told me that I shouldn't research 9/11 and World Trade
Center 7 and I said yes this is important, we should research this, there are many people
who got killed in Iraq, we've got the surveillance state, there's torture and all based on this
and here in Switzerland we are very fortunate. We're not being bombed, we have nobody killed,
so if we don't do this peace research, I mean, who should do it? I mean not people in Afghanistan,
right? They can barely survive. So I think the people who are privileged, you are privileged,
I am privileged, we should try to actually be courageous in our research and then there's
the trick. Once you face your fear you find out it's economics, scarce, you know you think
you will not have any money, that's a very, very big fear. The second fear that comes
around the corner and I think it will be the same is that everybody will laugh. They will
say you are a conspiracy theorist or your nuts or your stupid or just a stupid girl
or that you are a boy that has no clue or different names for saying you have no clue,
you're stupid. And these two fears combined stop many, many people. And I felt these fears
because in the Swiss newspaper, there was one journalist attacking me and saying I'm
a conspiracy theorist and I'm reading the newspaper and I'm like what, why is he saying
that? I'm a historian, I mean why is he attacking me? And then you get angry and you think oh
but that's not fair, but you can't reply because he prints the newspaper and you're just there
to read it. And at that moment you get very sad. First you get angry, then you get sad.
And what you then need is your friends. You just meet your wife or your mother or your
father or your brother or your best two friends. And then you find out that only about ten
people matter. Or maybe it's only five or maybe it's only one person. You know, it depends,
every person needs somebody else. Then you go to that person and say see, I'm researching
whatever it is and I have come to these conclusions, then you present your conclusions and you
ask your friend, he doesn't have to be a historian or a political scientist OK, it can be your
mother who has never read a book about these topics at all. But you say, do you think it's
wrong what I'm doing? Do you think I'm stupid? Do you think I should stop? I personally did
that with my wife. I told her, I said, OK, we have a little bit of trouble now because
I'm being attacked. And they could fire me from university. And then she said, well,
the question in the room is are you sure that World Trade Center 7 exists, that it went
down on 9/11? And I said heck yeah I'm sure. OK, I wouldn't risk my job for something I
haven't researched. And then she said, well, if you're sure, then you should not, you should
not break. You should not say oh, OK, it's not important what happened on 9/11. Or NATO's
secret armies didn't exist. Or oh no, CIA terrorism no problem. You shouldn't change,
what I'm saying is you should stay with your research. Never leave your research. I mean,
you've got to be very, very careful with your research. Don't get me wrong, right? If there
is no building World Trade Center 7 and you're giving interviews about it then your research
is very sad. You have to be very solid with your research, but once you've found data,
check it again, are you sure that World Trade Center 7 went down, then stay with it. And
so my wife said don't give up and I said well, OK, but maybe I will stay a doctor, I will
not become a professor. And then she said, yeah, so what? And then I said, well I thought
you think I'm a much cooler guy if I'm a professor instead of a doctor. And then she said no,
not at all, you're mistaken, I think you're a cool guy if you stay true, if you don't
lie, that's what I like. At that moment I said OK, but you know there's a problem, we're
paying 2000 Swiss francs for our rent here so that's $2000 a month for the rent. And
if I don't have my job anymore, we can't pay the rent and we have to move out. And then
she said I'm not scared of it. Then we move out, we'll find something cheaper. And then
I said you're serious? And she said yes. After that moment, and that's really interesting,
after that moment I felt completely relaxed. I did not have this oh it's very dangerous
feeling anymore, I had this feeling of OK, my wife and I asked a good friend of mine
as well, a good friend said hey these are very important topics, I mean, continue your
research on NATO's secret armies, don't give up. And then suddenly you'll find that your
family and your friends are the most important and when they help you, you can do incredible
things. Maybe you don't get rich, but they will help you to overcome your fear, you can't
do it alone. You can try. I totally agree and you've found a good wife
to support you like that, it's amazing.
Yeah, very lucky.
And as well, you've mentioned 9/11, I've shown the clip about World Trade Center 7 and we've
even spoken to one of the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, so...
Oh your students know World Trade Center 7, they all know it? Yeah and well in Mexico,
you show this 15-minute clip to Mexican students and 99 or 100% of people in Mexico, it's obvious,
but to American students, you know we have a few American students or people in America,
you're fighting against the tide.
That's the thing with the U.S., the U.S. is very close to you. I mean, I was in New York,
I love the city, I was in Seattle, I love the city, I was in Florida you know, I went
to all these...I was watching alligators, I was at Miami Beach, I mean I want to take
these things apart. America as a country is a wonderful country, OK, I really like LA
and um I have friends in the U.S. And I know American scientists who do great work and
the American population, there are 300 million, I think 280 million are just very good decent
people. But they have, I'm sorry to say, no clue about what their country has done in
the last 70 years, they have no clue! I tell them do you know that you armed both Iraq
and Iran during the war from 1980 to 1988? Then they go like oh no, I didn't know that,
that's probably to help. And I say what? To help, if you arm both sides, they were killing
each other. And then I say do you actually know that the CIA set up the mujahedeen in
Afghanistan and therefore actually created Al-Qaeda? And they go, oh no, I don't think
that's true, I mean I've never seen it on Fox News or CNN. And then I go they're completely
brainwashed, completely brainwashed, so I understand that when they are confronted with
World Trade Center 7 which is the most difficult, OK, that's the most difficult. Iran-Iraq or
Iran-Contra Affair or Operation Gladio or even Operation Northwoods, that's easier.
But if you start with World Trade Center 7 that's probably a shock to everybody in the
U.S. But I think there's people in the U.S. who are also waking up because they are very
moral, they don't want to kill people just for profit, they don't want that.
And it's a bit of cognitive dissonance I suppose. And talking about NATO, you know we don't
have to go over the basic premise you've spoken about it ad nausea on YouTube, anyone can
see what Operation Gladio was, but, I guess you know, when I talk about this at the university
in European politics and the students really loved your reading. I flip between conventional
readings and unconventional and they loved your book and some of them said they were
going to go out and get it and read the whole thing and my question is after knowing about
Gladio, you said the network was in sixteen NATO countries, they did terrorist attacks,
correct me if I'm wrong, some of the students that aren't in my class that are here now,
they were asking what did they do, they went into supermarkets right you detailed where
they shot shoppers, right, they blew up, what is it that they destroyed a school bus with
school children, things like this, terrorist attacks.
I mean, it is you know, when I started, I told you I started with the Cuban Missile
Crisis because I had to work my way through the data there and then there was Noam Chomsky
in Boston, I said you know did we have operations like that in Europe? Did we have, you know,
a Bay of Pigs invasion or like the overthrow of the Arbenz government in Guatemala, do
we have something like that in Europe? Because many Europeans I'm sorry to say usually said,
oh yeah I know the CIA overthrew Allende in 1973 in Chile but you know that's just that's
just Latin America and it's clear America, the U.S., they do what they want. OK, they
invade every country there and they armed the Contras, who cares? Basically it was put
like that and I say how can you say that? These are whole wonderful people, I traveled
there, I mean how can you say that? And it's the same that they think today with Afghanistan,
they ah, you know, they're just the people in Afghanistan. I want to research something
in Europe because that's where it gets different. That's where people say OK, no terrorism please
in Europe, we don't' want that. And then I said OK I'll research the NATO secret armies
and as you said the fact is NATO has had secret armies, the code word is Operation Gladio,
they existed in all NATO countries during the Cold War and they also existed in the
neutral countries so we had secret armies in Switzerland, P26, and in Sweden, Sweden
is not a NATO country. And in Austria, Austria is not a NATO country and in Finland, Finland
is not a NATO country. So what you actually have is something very, very sensitive. NATO
had secret armies and you can't actually have a secret army because actually parliament
or professors or journalists or the public should be informed OK, because this is tax
money. And if the tax money goes into the secret service and the secret service sets
up a secret army then there's something wrong with the state. And what I can confirm is
that CIA and MI6 so the American and the British secret service were arming and training these
secret armies with special operations forces, the Green Berets or the SAS special air service
from Great Britain. These are the guys you know from Rambo movies, I'm not sure if you
know Rambo, that's what we watched when we were young, maybe your students don't know
Rambo anymore, that's the 80s.
Well Rambo 4 came out not too long ago.
Oh OK so they still know that, but what I'm saying is these are the special forces, they're
the most lethal military soldiers and these guys trained secret armies in Europe. And
now what we have, this is a fact, this, you know, no question about it. On the other hand,
we have these terrorist attacks and in my book, very, very carefully I tried to show
that the secret armies were linked to these terrorist attacks but I can't prove it in
every corner. I can say we have a report from the Italian senate who says these terrorist
attacks that we had in Italy, Bologna, Piazza Fontana...many different terrorist attacks,
these were carried out by right-wing terrorists and these right-wing terrorists were protected
by the CIA and NATO and members in the American establishment. And I have to say, maybe you're
not aware of it but US terrorism in Europe still today is totally taboo. Most people
say it doesn't exist. And then I say let's approach it, let's approach it very carefully.
Let's see, do we have secret armies? The answer is yes. And I'm saying do we have terrorism?
The answer is yes. That's undisputed. And the link, OK, and the link between the secret
armies and the terrorism that's all still a hot debate, but you will find other researchers
in Europe who say there are no links and NATO will say no, no links, OK, we had secret armies
but no links to terrorism. These guys who did terrorism, they're just a crazy runaway
agent they're not under our control, OK? And so the question of US terrorism in Europe
is very delicate. Still today.
Well that was my next question, well first, telling us, now learning about all of this
and the bad things that NATO did, we're taught that NATO are the good guys, you know the
GI Joes of the world and um, they're the good guys, but after learning this, you know, I'm
like for me they're evil, I can't trust them because they've murdered people and I've lost
complete faith in NATO. But yet at schools we're taught that NATO is like you know fantastic.
Forget it, I mean look at what, always trust yourself, don't trust anybody else. Trust
yourself and look what NATO has done for instance in 2011 in Libya, OK? They bombed the country.
To us in Switzerland, and maybe also to you in Mexico they said we have to do that because
there's a very, very evil man, his name is Qaddafi and we have to kill him or just you
know regime change. We have to change and everything will be better and now if you look
at Libya, what is happening there? What's happening there? The land is in total chaos,
there are different groups, armed groups who kill each other. I have a personal friend
who went to Libya for the Red Cross, I mean the Red Cross is based here in Geneva and
they send people to different places of the world to watch that you know that there are
no atrocities and in Libya obviously they have the problem that some of these paramilitaries
were raping women or were shooting children or were shooting elderly people. So the Red
Cross have their people going there to monitor the rule of law, OK, there's some sort of
law even during war because during war you're not allowed to rape children for instance.
It's forbidden, even during war, you know it's forbidden to shoot teenage girls, it's
forbidden during war. It's not that in war everything is allowed OK. So this friend of
mine he went to Libya and he was shot, OK, he's dead now. I mean, we were together at
school and I thought how can NATO bomb the country and then it's a total mess and in
the newspaper I read this was for freedom and democracy. I mean, if you believe it then
it's your problem, you know, and then take another country, take Afghanistan for instance.
NATO started to bomb Afghanistan right after 9/11 in October 2001, they have now bombed
the country for 14 years, OK, that's longer that World War 2, 14 years they're bombing
the country. And we have more than 200,000 people killed in Afghanistan. I mean I don't
think NATO is a force for peace, I always turn it around and then think what would we
think if Afghanistan had bombed Switzerland for 14 years and we had 200,000 people dead
in Switzerland and somebody in Afghanistan writes in the newspaper article that's just
you know to promote peace. I mean, I don't believe it, I mean I've become a critic of
NATO. Yes, I think NATO has carried out too many things which are not right and I think
a new generation will wake up and will be much more critical of NATO.
Any students who have a question come on up and real quick while he's coming up, also
you touched on, I asked students the question you know we know about NATO, wouldn't it be
possible, and we see these terror attacks in Paris recently in Paris and in Europe and
for me it's just like you said it's logical we know their networks existed, they did exactly
these things, you know the past 50 years, I mean wouldn't it be likely that what we're
seeing now is...not all not every event right, but that a lot of them are probably these
secret forces of our own governments.
I mean that is this nightmarish question which is out there because when I, after I published
NATO's Secret Armies and false flag terrorism, after I published that book many people said
well that's very interesting, OK, but that but the book goes until 1991, that's when
the Cold War ends and you know what's going on today, what's happening to me, what's happening
to my children? And I've always said well, you know, we must look very, very carefully
when we see a terrorist attack. We had terrorist attacks in Madrid, we had terrorist attacks
in London, we had now terrorist attacks in Paris, we had a terrorist attack in New York,
whenever you have a terrorist attack be very careful, OK. Don't take the newspaper on the
first day and believe everything it says, but you know, do your own homework, do your
own research. If you think terrorism could be used, I'm saying could, be used to shock
everybody and make people scared or other people which NATO wants to bomb, I'm putting
it that way. In Paris, in January 2015 we had this terrorist attack Charlie Hebdo. So,
basically its two guys, you know, armed guys who go into a newspaper room who shoot everybody
and they drive away with a car and that's the short story, twelve people killed. I mean
twelve people if you compare that to the 220,000 people killed in Afghanistan or the 1 million
people killed in Iraq, twelve people is not a lot, but remember this is Europe. So this
is racism but its real racism, these twelve are valued much more than the twelve killed
in Pakistan by US drones, OK. So the Europeans look at it very carefully and what I've seen
is that the two killers who carried out the attacks, when they drive away, they change
their car, the car which they drive away, and one of these guys leaves his identity
card in the car, OK. Now you can say bad luck, he just forgot his identity card, possible,
maybe it was like that. But maybe that's a lie and somebody put the identity card there
to make it look like these were militant Muslims and then afterwards NATO can come and say
we have to bomb Syria, we have to bomb Iraq, these people are dangerous, if you don't believe
it you will have a terrorist attack where you live. I mean you can actually shock people
with terrorism, that's for sure. And what I've found out with my research on 9/11 is
that it is very, very difficult, I mean 9/11 is the biggest terrorist attack in history
so if you research anything in terrorism, take 9/11. 3,000 people killed and that's
the biggest terrorist attack. When it's so difficult to even find the truth in the biggest
attack then you can understand it is very difficult to research terror. But let me add
one thing. Some people have come to me and said, OK, so you think that sometimes terrorism
is manipulated and I say yes. And then they say OK and you think 1 million people died
in Iraq and I say yes. Then they say OK you think the U.S. attacked Iraq without a mandate
from the UN Security Council and I say yes, certainly, that's a fact. But then they say
how can you sleep at night? How can you walk in the street with a smile on your face? I
mean isn't the world a very sad place if your research is true? And then I say hey wait,
my research is not on human beings in general, OK. Most human beings and I'm sure, most in
your class and most people you know, they don't want to kill anybody, nobody, they want
to fall in love. OK, that's the point, they want to have a nice party, they want to make
some money they want to drink wine, they want to go on a vacation. Make the check, OK, everybody
out there who thinks what I really want to do tomorrow is, you know, behead my neighbor,
no! Most human beings don't want that and that's why, if you research these extreme
violent things like the Iraq War or 9/11 that's called extreme violence, OK. Keep in mind
that only like one or two or maybe three percent of the world population is involved in these
things and if you take seven billion as teh world population that's 70 million people
and you can say 70 million people is a lot, but not 7 billion. It's not your neighbor,
it's not your brother, it's just a minority. We are the majority, 95, 96, 97 percent of
the global population don't want that, don't want that.
And we let the others get away with it. We have a question here from our friend from
Colombia.
Sure.
Hello Mr. Ganser. Hello, nice to meet you, what's your name?
Camilo.
Camilo, hi Camilo.
Hello, yeah, first I would like to stress a comment on how difficult it is to speak
about all of these topics even with the academic community because they've become almost taboo
for these kind of topics because you do not mention them because you're not supposed to,
right? Now that you've mentioned Cuba and then you've seen the kind of interests in
Cuba, I am also because I studied there for a season, um and I don't know if you're aware
of this, but in the last days or yesterday Obama has removed the country from the list
of countries promoting terrorism because Cuba used to be inside the terrorist watchlist
for the U.S. so my question is do you consider Cuba to have ever been a real threat to the
U.S. in the last decades or do you see it as a rhetoric from the previous U.S. offices?
Well, I don't think that Cuba was a threat to the U.S. I think the U.S. was a threat
to Cuba, I mean look at the country, it's very, very small, it's like you know, I'm
always saying Switzerland is small and Cuba is small and there's no way that Cuba could
have attacked and conquered the U.S., there's no way but if you look at it the other way
around the U.S. obviously could've attacked and conquered Cuba and when I looked at the
document from Operation Northwoods, these documents are now online available and they
say that to convince the American public that Fidel Castro and everybody in Cuba is evil
the American military, the Pentagon suggested to blow up an American warship in Guantanamo
Bay and then say the Cubans did it or to explode a few bombs in Miami or even in Washington
and blame it again on Fidel Castro or blow up an airplane, a drone with nobody in it
and say you know, these were students, American students flying to I don't know, Latin America
to help everybody there and then blame it on Fidel Castro. So what I really think is
the Pentagon is much more dangerous, much more dangerous than Fidel Castro. I'm not
saying that Fidel Castro has done everything right in his life. I mean look at the Swiss,
they haven't done everything right. We have had money from dictators in our banks, every
country has its dark side which is not right. What I think is important for peace research
is really that we don't take over the rhetoric from the U.S. empire which always says Cuba
is evil and we are right. I don't think that the facts support the argument.
Thanks. I have two final questions, this one is kind of a big topic but if you can just
tell us really quickly, your book about oil is published in German so I haven't been able
to purchase it and read it, but I'm also a fan of the work of F. William Engdahl, I read
his book, I'm sure you know him. He proposes the other theory, I believe the abiotic theory
of oil. And I'm in between, you know Dimitri Mendeleev, the guy who created the periodic
chart, table, he also believed in that and what's your thought, is oil a natural renewable
source or maybe it's natural but it doesn't renew very quickly or is it a fossil fuel?
Yeah, let's talk about oil. I mean oil is a very, very important resource today. Keep
in mind that we need 90, I repeat nine zero, 90 million barrels of oil every day so that
the world can function as it is. The oil age started in 1850 so that's 160 years ago and
then these 160 years the world population went from 2 billion to 7 billion, that's very
interesting, OK. During the oil age the world population went up. During the First World
War we used every day just one million, one million barrels every day and in 1945, that's
at the end of the Second World War we had 6 million barrels every day and today its
90 million barrels, that's 45 super tankers, that's really a lot. And obviously the question
is there enough oil for the 21st century? OK, so is there enough oil for you students
and for your children? And that's one of the big, big questions and some researchers say
no, in different parts of the world oil production goes down. In the United Kingdom here in Europe,
oil production is falling, OK. The UK produced 3 million barrels in the year 2000 and they
now only produce 1 million barrels. And to my mind that's the case because of peak oil
they've reached a maximum of production as production has fallen. On the same case, the
case with Norway, Norwegian production has peaked in the year 2000 and is now falling.
The same is the case in Indonesia. Indonesia has reached a peak, production is falling.
Obviously other countries like Saudi Arabia or Brazil can still produce, you know, more
oil. But also in Mexico there's a huge oil field which is called Cantarel, I think is
that the right way to pronounce it? It's the Cantarel oil field. Research it, you know,
it is producing less today than they produced ten years ago and so I don't think that Bill
Engdahl, who's a very good researcher, OK, I really respect him, he's a courageous man,
a smart man no doubt about that. I think he's based in Germany and I spoke to him over the
phone about this question if oil is finite or not and we disagreed. He thinks that oil
is endless, you know, it's something out of the ground and these reservoirs fill each,
fill themselves, that's the so called abiotic theory. And I disagree, I think oil is a finite
resource with depleting oil reserves and we're fighting oil wars and we're heating up the
climate and so here you have an example of two researchers who are both very independent,
Engdahl and myself I consider myself very independent, Bill Engdahl is very independent,
we disagree.
OK, and um is your work going to continue to be published in German or how come there's
not so much in English, such as William Engdahl, a lot of his books are translated into different
languages, is that a personal decision or you just haven't had the time?
Well the thing with the translation usually is not my decision. I mean, if you look at
the NATO book I wrote it in English originally so I decided to make it available in English
from the beginning, so I wrote my PhD in English and the very first time it was published it
was published in English and then only later it was translated into Italian, into German,
into French, into Spanish, into Russian, into Turkish, into Greek, so ten languages, OK,
but I didn't do these translations, I have no influence on them. It's basically somebody
asking me from Greece or so or Turkey saying I read your book, I think it's very interesting,
I think it should be published here in Turkey, I'm the publisher so and so and I say OK,
contact my published in London and you know you have to buy the rights and then you can
publish it. And this other book on oil, I wrote it in German, OK, so the original language
there is German and so far no publisher in Spanish or in English has said they want to
translate it, but if somebody comes, it's usually a publisher, you know who has to ask
and if they say they want to publish it I'm usually OK with it, I'm not against the books
being translated, but I don't have the time obviously to do it myself.
OK, and final question, so I'm always telling my students to be brave, to search for the
truth, not to be afraid, not to be afraid of speaking it and what final words of wisdom
do you have for the next generation?
The next generation is the future so that's for sure. And I hope that you will always,
always follow your heart, OK. If you want to be happy in your life and I think everybody
in the room wants to be happy, you have to use your heart and your mind together, that's
the trick. And if you do your research, your mind finds out very interesting things, don't
lose faith, Ok, don't, don't start to say oh people will attack me or I won't get this
job or I can't do that so I shut up. I have friends who say I shut up now and when I'm
sixty, when I'm retired I'm gonna write a really critical book, this doesn't work! It
doesn't work. If you postpone your integrity until you're sixty your life is over and then
it's too late. And so my message really is be very, very good researchers and be confident
that many people across the globe are interested in peace, OK. We are the majority, people
who are interested in peace are the majority. I'm saying we will always have conflicts.
Everybody has conflict every day, with the neighbor, with other people in the traffic,
with their father, with their friend and then we yell at each other and that's OK, conflicts
are fine, conflicts are very good, they help us to grow, they help us you know to develop,
conflicts are fine. But we should not solve conflicts with violence. We should not shoot
somebody because he has written a book we don't like. We shouldn't behead somebody because
he has another religion. We shouldn't burn somebody because we disagree with them and
we shouldn't rape somebody because they don't want to have sex with us. I mean it's always,
it's always the same point, we should not use violence and that's really the core message,
I know, this is not news, OK and I guess this is what you thought before but I just wanted
to tell you you're right.
OK, well thank you so much for taking the time with us and here there are more students,
you can't see them all.
Very good. And enjoy life, I mean life is good, I mean you probably think these guys
who research false flag terrorism they must be totally depressed and they don't trust
any human being anymore, that's not true! Keep in mind these extreme violent cases are
from the minority, OK. And this minority exists, OK, let's not get fooled that is just something
which doesn't exist, this minority exists, but ask around among your friends and you
will find most of them, they want to fall in love, the guys want to buy a nice car,
it's all very normal things, they don't want to kill anybody, really not.
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