Want to buy a fridge mate?
Got this lovely fridge.
Real bargain.
Swipe left for Catford.
This is Catford, South East London.
London, the ancient metropolis
at the heart of England.
This is Francois.
He made a game called Reigns.
Now this is slightly unusual because normally
we do these kind of videos before the game comes out, right?
But this time your game's out,
it did kind of OK.
Kind of OK.
Kind of OK.
So we thought we'd make a film about it because
it's quite an interesting story.
First of all he's gonna show us around.
Yeah, please come in.
So I'm guessing this belongs
to perhaps a new member of the family?
Yeah, Frederic.
Frederic!
And what's the story with Frederic?
How long's he been in the world?
A month now.
He was born a week after the release of the game.
It was a bit of a stressful time.
So you brought the game out and a week later your first son was born.
Yeah.
That's pretty well organised.
Was it planned?
Tama is a game cat if you want.
She was owned by another game designer,
Hannah Nicklin, who's living in London,
and she's been named by the creator of Katamari Damacy,
so it's a bit like...
So the cat has a video game pedigree basically.
Exactly.
So she's helping a lot with the game.
Assistant game designer. - Exactly.
So you're a Frenchman in London...
Yeah.
And I'm guessing...
I do cooking.
Food is important for you right?
Yeah exactly.
So this is why this is the principal room,
the most important room in the house. - Exactly yeah.
It's bigger than the place where I make games.
This is a spectacular poster.
So that's one of my previous games called Magic Shot
that I did with Arnaud, a friend of mine.
It's a procedurally generated billiards game.
And this is the main room where I'm working.
So this is where when Graeme from Devolver
is at a loose end he just comes and sits here...
and waits for the cat to leap on top of him.
Oh look, look what he's doing!
He's going for the ultimate reign, 14 years...
Not very good. - Not very good.
You're not going to impress the leader boards with that score.
This is where I spend most of my
time working on games and stuff.
This is quite new this place for you, right?
Yeah yeah, in the last year.
You didn't make all of Reigns here.
I'm doing a lot of coworking also.
Essentially Reigns has been done here because
we've been here for a year.
OK, that's some messing around.
He's good isn't he? This one's a keeper.
Swipe right for the Constitutional Club.
Look at this weather!
This is London!
London is giving us great weather, this never happens.
It's good right?
You're happy. We're happy. - Yeah it's very rare.
The Catford Constitutional Club.
The local institution where they serve mead apparently,
so we're gonna go and have a look
and see what we can find in medieval England here in Catford.
Oh wow.
What was your first thing that you did?
A game called Singular.
So Singular made 200 players.
Then I did Magic Shots with my friend Arnaud.
This one had 2000 players. - OK.
Then I did Devouring Stars which had 20,000 players.
And then I did a small game, a free game called Passengers.
When did you start working on Reigns then?
I started prototyping last year
with the artist Mieko.
We sort of made a real prototype in December.
So that's 8 months. - 8 months yeah.
So the whole project really was 9 months.
That's pretty amazing isn't it?
How did you find the other people that you were working with?
I found the artist in London.
We met at different indie things.
This is Mieko, who's now back in Japan? - Mieko, yeah.
Yeah she's back in Japan.
You've got this interesting mix of really lo-fi
old school computer text
Yeah -with this quite modern flat design style.
Where did that come from?
She took a diamond with facets and stuff,
and she made the shape evolve in the different characters.
So tell me about the music then,
because it's quite an interesting system.
Yeah, so Disasterpeace
worked with a friend who's more like a classical musician,
Mateo Lugo, and they designed this system
that recreates the music, like medieval music.
It's called 'plainchant'.
You've got four voices: soprano, alto, bass and tenor.
The music will evolve
and get more complicated and more structured
whilst being different every time.
Swipe right for Borough Market.
We've come down to Southwark
in South East London again
and this is Borough Market
which is a medieval market, right?
Yeah, a thousand years.
Yeah, a thousand years old this place,
so this is clearly an important inspiration for Reigns,
but maybe not in the way we expect.
Why do you come here?
For cheese generally. - Cheese...
It's all about the cheese.
So we're gonna go and do some stealth cheese buying
cos we're not really allowed to film in here so
Robbie's gonna be our sentry
and if things go wrong
he's going to help us make a swift getaway.
So let's go and buy some cheese.
What do you want?
Camembert. - Camembert.
For tonight? Next week? This weekend?
This weekend, yeah.
Something for the weekend sir?
With narrative games it's not so much
about putting a lot of text
like in a book,
but more about bringing just the
two sentences that make people react and
want to know more, or imagine what's happening.
You start to play
and then you understand that your decisions have consequences
beyond the four things on the top.
They have consequences over centuries.
There's these subtle machinations
going on in the background
not all of which are immediately obvious
but you feel their effect later.
Swipe left for The Globe.
On our Reigns-inspired medieval tour of London
we've come to Shakespeare's Globe Theatre.
Now you're a student of literature. - Yeah.
Shakespeare's big for you?
Yeah, it was always a big thing when I studied...
Big inspiration for the Reigns narrative.
Yeah you find the same sort of terrible dramatic outcomes.
So it's all about the twists and turns
and the stabs of the dagger. - Exactly.
Medieval saw music.
Can we go along... where are we going?
Lincoln's Inn Fields please?
You can't do London properly
without a journey in a cab, right? - Yeah.
So what I wanted you to
get you to give us your point of view on Robbie,
as a, I think it's fair to say,
a reformed Tinder user...
Reformed is one way of putting it.
I mean I'm an enthusiast.
...Tinder enthusiast, what's your take on Francois'
medieval king-based Tinder?
I'm quite interested to know where
the inspiration came from outside of the mechanic itself.
I mean you're obviously
a happily married man - Yeah.
I can't imagine that you...
Did you do any extra-curricular research
by starting up a little Tinder account?
We did some gameplay research,
Ahh OK.
...it's very important.
And did your wife take part as well?
Oh yeah, yeah sure. - Amazing!
Did you find any positive connections?
Yeah, for testing purposes.
It happens.
Testing purposes...
I've heard you use that expression Robbie.
Yeah, well it's all research.
Was there anything about the way
people connect and interact on Tinder
that influenced the game design in any way?
Yeah, the thing about that
they actually don't look outside the
photo, you know? - Yeah.
They just check the photos, not the information after,
so that was a very good inspiration for the game
because we just kept that mechanic, nothing else.
So when it came down to the art choices in that respect then,
was it quite important to make sure that
players were being influenced by the images that they were seeing
as well as the text? - Yeah. Yes exactly...
Because nobody reads the text, it's not what you do on Tinder.
Exactly, no one reads the text - just look at the photos.
The Tinder narrative is that you could find a positive connection
then find romance,
you could find your king or queen. - Yeah.
But that doesn't really happen in Reigns.
No, you die. - You always die.
Have you ever died on Tinder Robbie?
I haven't died...
I mean it depends... - Well you haven't got to the end yet.
Exactly. - Romance dies, you know?
Yeah yeah, it depends on your definition of death.
Why did you go down the medieval route?
Because the king, the figure of a king is very
representative of having a big power, you know?
Like power of life and death.
The context in which you were making this game was
pre-Brexit Britain. - Yeah.
The idea that you're asking the question,
"is it good to go out of Europe" as a yes or no is just
hiding the forest of impacts and consequences
it has on millions of people.
We're drinking in the medieval flavour of the place.
Or actually we're
drinking in the aroma of the cheese.
Yeah? - Yeah.
You had a notebook with you earlier
that showed some of the... - Yeah, sure.
the way you work things out in the game. - Yeah.
Yeah, so that's...
It's everything, it's to do lists.
So that's a to do list for
the beta version of the game. - Yeah.
I got all the stuff I had to do.
And then after that you got some...
That looks very mathematical. - Yeah.
Is that probabilities? - Yes.
I was checking a couple of things.
Could you help me discover my probability
of finding someone on Tinder?
How did you wind up in bed with Devolver?
What happened?
That was also very weird.
It seems to be consistently weird
getting into bed with Devolver, I dunno...
I sent them a mail...
You sent them a...
just unsolicited, out of the blue email?
Yeah out of the blue mail saying,
Hi Fork... - Who did you send it to?
Did you send it to Fork Parker?
Yeah, Fork Parker.
Nigel answered saying, ah that's quite nice...
OK...
So Nigel took the bait...
Yeah he took the bait, which was sort of...
Were you expecting...
I think that was a good game for Devolver.
It doesn't resemble anything Devolver have done. -Yeah but...
does Hotline Miami look like Hatoful Boyfriend? - Exactly.
Swipe right for Loading Bar.
This is the Loading Bar in Dalston in London.
And this is interesting because
our man Francois actually
used to work here right? - Yeah.
Kind of. You didn't work in the bar
but this is where you came to work.
Yeah I came for coworking.
I spent a year roughly coworking here.
Was that before you were working on Reigns?
Yeah before, yeah.
OK, so this is old school for you.
This is Arnaud.
Who's Arnaud?
Arnaud is a friend I met in London, an indie like me.
He's gonna help work on Reigns 2, the next...
Whoa! Reigns 2! - Yeah?
What's happening with Reigns 2?
I've talked with Mieko and she's going back to Japan.
She asked me if I can continue her work.
For me it was like a very hard challenge because her style is so...
stylish.
I got almost 700,000 players - Wow.
right now, of Reigns.
That's beyond... for me...
It's not even about the money,
it's about 700,000 playing your game, it's like...
So do you think this is it now,
are you a full time game developer?
Is this what you wanna do?
Yes, we're doing more Reigns,
but we're doing it differently this time.
What's different?
We're focussing more on the queen side of things.
So Francois' research for Reigns 2
would not be complete without a visit to see the Queen.
Yeah.
So we're in Green Park and we're going to walk down to Buckingham Palace
to see if she's at home.
She must be. - She must be.
Let's follow the crowd.
We're basking in the glory
of our nation's great Queen in front of Buckingham Palace.
Clearly an important inspiration for Reigns.
Yeah, yeah.
A Frenchman comes to the UK to find his royal family
and make his successful game.
Yeah, turn them into cards.
It's a medieval fairy tale.
One of the things about the game that I think is really fun,
you mentioned this, is that
only 5% of what happens to you in the game is
the game taking you, right?
Yeah.
Only 5% of the cards are actually
designed to be played in a certain way - Right.
and not in a certain way.
So the rest of it is just a roll of the dice?
A bit, yeah.
That's a really bad trumpet player.
Yeah, could improve.
Reigns has been a success...
Have you treated yourself to anything nice?
I got a lot of people,
when I signed with Devolver and everything,
"Do you feel like a rock star?" You know?
I'm like,
well, I would like the booze and the hookers, but
I just got nappies and...
Nappies and baby talc. - Yeah exactly, that's it.
I'm a bit frustrated, you know?
Anti-rock & roll Devolver signing.
No, I'm all about the nappies. - Yeah exactly!
You're wiping your baby's fresh bottom with 100 dollar bills.
Exactly!
This is the dream!
This is why I was brought to this earth!
Well at least it's not raining.
Yeah I hope.
The queen's the only one reigning today.
Yeah.
Get it?
Reigning.
That's a good one.
It's a very clever joke.
Yeah, yeah. - Yeah.
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