. >>> THE OTHER THE ANNIVERSARY OF
THE DAY I CAME DOWN WITH MELANIA ON THE ESCALATOR AT TRUMP TOWER.
SO TOMORROW, IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS SINCE WE ANNOUNCED.
IT WORKED OUT OKAY. IT WORKED OUT OKAY.
>> THAT WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP IN MIAMI TODAY, THE ONLY PROBLEM
WITH WHAT YOU JUST HEARD, THE ANNIVERSARY OF HIS CAMPAIGN
ANNOUNCEMENT, THIS SCENE ON THE ESCALATOR WAS TODAY, IT WAS TWO
YEARS AGO TODAY, NOT TOMORROW. IT MEANS THAT IN EXACTLY TWO
YEARS TIME, TRUMP HAS GONE FROM A CANDIDATE ON AN ESCALATOR TO
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, IN THE WHITE HOUSE, MORE
APPROPRIATELY CAMP DAVID, AND WE SHOULD ADD UNDER INVESTIGATION.
SINCE WE HAVE ALREADY BLOWN UP THEIR FRIDAY NIGHT, OUR PANEL IS
BACK. A NEW REPORT TONIGHT HEADLINED,
ESCALATING INVESTIGATION PUT TRUMP AND HIS STAFF AT LEGAL
ODDS. AND WHAT A GREAT PLACE TO START
THE CONVERSATION. EXPLAIN THE HEADLINE AND EXPLAIN
HOW THEY MAY BE AT CROSS PURPOSES OR NOT, AT LEAST ON THE
SAME PAGE. >> SURE.
WELL DONALD TRUMP'S PERSONAL LAWYER MARK CASOWITZ WHICH YOU
TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THE LAST SEGMENT, TALKED ABOUT THE MAN,
NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AS HE'S TALKED TO WHITE
HOUSE STAFF, HE'S SAID MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED TO LAWYER UP AT THIS
TIME. THAT RUNS CONTRARY TO ANY WHITE
COLLAR PROSECUTOR WOULD TELL YOU THAT YOU WANT TO DO AT THIS
POINT IN TIME. IT REACHES FROM THE OBSTRUCTION
OF JUSTICE CASE TO REACHING BACK TO THE CAMPAIGN AND HAVING
EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE RUSSIA PROBE.
THIS STAFF ARE GOING TO NEED LAWYERS, SO FOR PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S LAWYER SAYING DON'T LAWYER UP AT THIS TIME, IT
SPEAKS CONTRARY TO WHAT OTHERS ARE SAYING AT THIS TIME.
>> LOOKING AT THAT ESCALATOR SCENE, IT'S DONALD TRUMP THE
PRESIDENT, IT'S WHAT'S GOTTEN HIM TO THE DANCE.
HE'S FALLEN BACK ON THE CAMPAIGN GUY WHILE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
WHERE WHERE'S THE DISCONNECT TO YOU.
THERE IS NO DISCONNECT. HE'S THE SAME GUY TODAY AT 71
YEARS OLD AS PRESIDENT. FOR YEARS HE MADE A LOT OF MONEY
AND A BIG NAME FOR HIMSELF, BY SORT OF BEING ABLE TO RE-CREATE
HIS OWN VERSION OF REALITY, AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN THROUGH THE
FIRST 100 DAYS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, IS A GUY TRYING
TO DO THE SAME THING, AND INCREASINGLY FRUSTRATING
EVERYONE, WE SAW IT ON HIS FIRST DAY OR SECOND DAY OF THE WHITE
HOUSE, WHEN HE SENT SEAN SPICER TO THE BRIEFING ROOM TO GET MAD
AT THE PRESS FOR SAYING THAT HID CROWD WASN'T AS BIG AS BARACK
OBAMA'S, EVEN THOUGH HIS CROWD WASN'T AS BIG AS BARACK OBAMA'S.
AND THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS THING HANGING OVER HIM, THAT
FEAR THAT PEOPLE QUESTION THE LEGITIMACY OF HIS ELECTORAL WIN,
AND EVERY TIME SOMETHING COMES UP ABOUT THAT, THIS RUSSIAN
COLLUSION, IF THERE'S ANY INSINUATION THAT SOMETHING MIGHT
BE AMISS, RATHER THAN LETTING INVESTIGATIONS PROCEED, HE HAS
TO SCRATCH THE ITCH. HE HAS TO LET GO, HE HAS TO
TWEET, AND THAT'S WHY HE'S IN THIS MESS.
>> I HEARD SEAN SPICER SOUND LIKE IT WAS THE LARGEST CROWD
EVER ASSEMBLED. WE'LL CHECK ON THAT.
SHANNON, WE PUT TOGETHER THE PEOPLE DONALD TRUMP PLOWED
THROUGH TO GET HERE. IT'S A FORMIDABLE SELECTION OF
ALL NAMES GREAT AND SMALL IN POLITICS, I MUST ADD, LOOKING AT
THAT LAST ONE IN BOTH PARTIES. SO YOU'RE TEMPTED TO ASK, WHAT'S
A ROB ROSENSTEIN, WHAT'S A ROBERT MUELLER.
WHAT HE'S NOT USED TO HAVING ANY DISCIPLINE ENFORCED UPON HIM, OR
REALLY ANYONE WITH CONTROLLING AUTHORITY OVER HIM.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL. >> RIGHT, YET TO YOUR POINT OF
EVERYTHING HE HAS BEEN THROUGH TO GET HERE, THOSE CLOSE TO THE
PRESIDENT, THOSE WHO HAVE KNOWN DONALD TRUMP THE BUSINESSMAN HIS
ENTIRE CAREER WILL SAY, IF YOU UNDERESTIMATE HIM, IF YOU COUNT
HIM OUT, YOU'LL BE SORELY MISTAKEN.
AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE LINE OF PEOPLE ON THE SCREEN
POLITICALLY, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT A LINE OF PEOPLE IN BUSINESS WHO
UNDER ESTIMATE THEM AND COUNT THEM OUT SO THEY WERE MISTAKEN,
SO AS GRAY AND DIM AS THINGS SEEM NOW, THOSE WHO KNOW HIM
WELL, SAY DON'T COUNT HIM OUT. BUT HE IS CERTAINLY IN UNCHARTED
TERRITORIES, AND HE'S USED TO DEALING IN A WORLD WHERE YOU CAN
FIRE PEOPLE YOU DON'T GET ALONG WITH, YOU CAN'T FIRE CONGRESS,
YOU CANNOT HELP THEM GET ELECTED, BUT YOU CAN'T FIRE
CONGRESS. >> DARRIN, YOU'VE BEEN AROUND
WASHINGTON SUMMERS, AND WE HAVE THAT SUMMER RECESS LOOMING, AND
THEY'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO GO HOME BECAUSE THE ENTIRE CONGRESS
IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2018. WHAT CAN THIS ADMINISTRATION SAY
THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED TO DATE, EITHER EXECUTIVE ORDERS OR
GORSUCH? >> THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS AT
THIS POINT THAT THEY'RE RELYING ON, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE
FINAL YEARS OF THE OBAMA YEARS, A VERY UNPRODUCTIVE CONGRESS,
CONGRESS HAS BEEN UNPRODUCTIVE SINCE 2010, SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN
MUCH COME OUT OF THIS CONGRESS, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A HEALTH CARE
BILL MAKE IT TO THE FINISH LINE, THERE'S QUESTIONS AS TO WHETHER
WE'RE GOING TO SEE A BILL. THE TAX REFORM HAS BEEN PUSHED
BACK, THIS INVESTIGATION, THE FACT THAT THIS PRESIDENT IS
UNDER THIS CLOUD IS GOING TO BE HANGING OVER THIS ADMINISTRATION
FOR SOME TIME TO COME. PERHAPS FOR THE REST OF THIS
TERMS. SO THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY
THINKING OF SCHOOL UNIFORMS AND THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THE
CLINTON ADMINISTRATION HAD TO DEAL WITH IN THOSE FINAL YEARS.
OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE PULLING BACK THINGS FROM THE OBAMA YEARS AS
WELL. SO YOU ARE SEEING OBAMA
REGULAREGULATIONS ROLLING BACK, WHETHER IT BE CLIMATE CHANGE OR
EPA, THAT'S WHAT THE CELEBRATION IS GOING TO BE FOR THE TRUMP
YEARS. >> WHEN YOU TALKED TO NICOLE
WALLACE, SHE ASKED YOU A VERY INTERESTING QUESTION ABOUT THIS
VALUE OF THIS
UTTERANCES, HE SAYS WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO SEE WHAT'S ON
TWITTER AS AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT OF THE PRESIDENT.
>> IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE, THE WORDS DO MATTER, BECAUSE HE DOES
NOT REALLY SPEND A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT WHAT HE SAYS LIKE
ALL PAST PRESIDENTS DID, HE JUST SORT OF SPEAKS AND TWEETS OFF
THE CUFF. AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOME OF
THIS STUFF WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAIN OF SALT, BUT WHEN YOU
STEP BACK FROM THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT DOES, WHEN A
PRESIDENT SPEAKS SO CAVALIERLY, WHEN A PRESIDENT CONTRADICTS
HIMSELF SO QUICKLY, IT MAKES A MUDDLE OF THINGS AND EVEN THOUGH
YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY EXAMPLES AS YOU WANT SAYING THIS WAS A
CONTRADICTION AND THIS WAS A CONTRADICTION AND ET CETERA, ET
CETERA. TO COME OUT AND MUDDLE THINGS
ANSWER CONFUSE PEOPLE, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY HIS
SUPPORTERS CAN TAKE AWAY WHAT THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY, THE
MEDIA CAN TAKE AWAY WHAT THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY AND HE CAN
STAND BACK AND SAY THE MEDIA IS TAKING ME LITERALLY AND THAT'S
JUST NOT WHAT IT WAS. IT'S VERY HARD
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