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>> Andrew: ON THIS TUESDAY
NIGHT A WHIPLASH OF EMOTIONS FOR
A SOCCER TEAM CAUGHT IN A CAVE
TAKES A HARD TURN.
THE WORLD BREATHES A SIGH OF
RELIEF WHEN THEY WERE FOUND BUT
NOW IT'S A RACE TO GET THEM OUT
ALIVE.
IT'S A PHYSICAL, MENTAL AND
LOGISTICAL PROBLEM WITH NO EASY
SOLUTION.
>> Rosemary: ALSO TONIGHT
POLICE SAY THAT A HEALTH CARE
WORKER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
DEATH OF EIGHT BABIES AT A
BRITISH HOSPITAL.
>> Adrienne: AND AFTER GUNFIRE
ECHOES ACROSS TORONTO'S LONG
WEEKEND, WE LOOK AT WHAT MIGHT
HAVE SPARKED IT, WHAT THE CITY
SHOULD DO ABOUT IT AND WHY A
SO-CALLED CRACKDOWN MIGHT NOT BE
THE ANSWER.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>> Andrew: THAT YOUNG SOCCER
TEAM IN THAILAND MAY HAVE BEEN
TAKING PART IN AN IRAQ
INITIATION LIKE DARE TO RACE
INTO THAT CAVE TO WRITE THEIR
NAMES ON A WALL.
BUT IT QUICKLY WENT WRONG.
THEY WERE TRAPPED BY FLOODWATERS
BEFORE THEY GO COULD GET BACK
OUT IN TIME.
THE WORLD WAS SEIZED BY THEIR
PLIGHT AND RELIEVED WHEN THEY
WERE FOUND NINE DAYS LATER.
BUT AS IT TURNS OUT THAT WAS THE
EASY PART BECAUSE GETTING THEM
OUT WON'T BE.
NEW PICTURES OF THE BOYS SHOW
THEIR CURRENT CONDITION WHERE
IT'S ALREADY WEDNESDAY MORNING
IN THAILAND.
ABOVE GROUND, OFFICIALS ARE
LOOKING AT THE FEW RESCUE
OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.
ALL OF THEM WITH THEIR OWN SET
OF DANGERS AND THINGS ARE DICEY.
THE BOYS AND THEIR COACH ARE
SAFE WHERE THEY ARE FOR NOW, BUT
THERE'S MORE HEAVY RAIN COMING.
THE VERY THING THAT GOT THEM
TRAPPED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND AS THE CBC'S DAVID COMMON
EXPLAINS THE JOURNEY BACK OUT
WILL EITHER BE LONG, RISKY, OR
BOTH.
>> Reporter: UNDER A KILOMETRE
OF ROCK ESCAPE SEEMS SO DAUNTING
THAT THE ONLY CURRENT PATH,
SWIM, LARGELY UNDERWATER FOR TWO
KILOMETRES, NAVIGATING THROUGH
THIS NARROW PATH TOO TIGHT TO
WEAR OXYGEN TANKS ON YOUR BACK.
AND THEN TO SWIM 30 METRES
STRAIGHT UP TO FULLY FLOODED
AREAS HUNDREDS OF METRES LONG.
ALL OF IT IN PITCH BLACK
CONDITIONS.
FINALLY, USE CLIMBING GEAR TO
GET TO THE SURFACE.
ONE MORE THING, THE BOYS DON'T
KNOW HOW TO SWIM.
>> THAT'S INCREDIBLY DAUNTING
TASK, EVEN FOR AN EXPERIENCED
DIVER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING
TO PULL IT OFF.
I REALLY DON'T.
>> Reporter: COMMERCIAL DIVING
INSTRUCTOR AARON GRIFFIN SAYS
THAT IT WOULD TAKE YEARS TO GET
THE TRAINING NEEDED.
IT IS CLEAR THEY'DA AIM TO USE
FULL FACE MASKS WITH AIR BUILT
RIGHT IN AND STRAPPED TIGHT SO
THEY DON'T SLIP OFF.
>> IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS PUTTING
A MASK ON SOMEBODY AND HAULING
THEM OUT AND HOPING FOR THE
BEST.
>> Reporter: RESCUERS THOUGH
MAY HAVE
LITTLE CHOICE.
THOUGH THEY'RE PUMPING THE CAVE
SYSTEM THE WATER LEVELS COULD
STILL RISE, EVEN DROWNING OUT
THE SMALL AIR POCKET THAT THE
GROUP HAS BEEN IN FOR THE LAST
10 DAYS.
THE RAINY SEASON DOESN'T END
UNTIL OCTOBER.
SO STAYING COULD MEAN MONTHS
MORE UNDERGROUND.
>> I WOULD FAVOUR LOOKING REALLY
HARD AT GETTING PEOPLE OUT
QUICKLY.
>> Reporter: FOR DIVING VEMPER
NEIL POLLOCK THERE ARE TWO REAL
CONCERNS WITH
WAITING.
>> THE RISK OF WASTE MANAGEMENT
ALONE, EVEN IF THEY HAVE FOOD
SUPPLIES BROUGHT IN FOR SEVERAL
MONTHS' STAY IT COULD GET QUITE
PROBLEMATIC JUST TO MANAGE THE
WATER AND WASTE OVER THAT PERIOD
OF TIME FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE.
>> Reporter: SECONDLY --
>> THE PSYCHOLOGICAL STRESS.
IT IS A HUGE BURDEN FOR THESE
PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, A
RANGE OF KIDS FROM 11 TO 16.
>> Reporter: EVEN ON THE
GROUND IN THAILAND THERE'S
LIKELY DEBATE ABOUT WHAT TO DO
NOW, STAY OR LEAVE.
BUT FROM THOSE WHO REGULARLY
RESCUE CANADIANS FROM CAVES
THERE IS ONE VERY BIG AND VERY
GOOD SIGN ALREADY.
>> AT LEAST TO FIND THEM ALIVE
IS A GREAT OUTCOME AND THERE'S
REALLY HOPE FOR MORE SUCCESS.
>> WE'RE COMING, IT'S OKAY, IT'S
OKAY.
MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING.
>> Reporter: AND THOSE
RESCUERS HAVE RETURNED, SOME
STAYING WITH THE BOYS TO KEEP
THEM ENGAGED.
BRINGING HIGH ENERGY LIQUID
FOOD.
DAVID COMMON, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Andrew: ALL TOGETHER MORE
THAN A THOUSAND PEOPLE FROM A
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COUNTRIES
HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN BOTH THE
SEARCH AND THE RESCUE PLANNING.
MOST ARE PROFESSIONALS, MARINES
AND NAVY SEALS, BUT THE DIVERS
WHO ACTUALLY FOUND THE BOYS AND
THEIR COACH, THEY ARE
VOLUNTEERS.
>> THEY ARE THE RIGHT MEN IN THE
RIGHT PLACE.
YOU KNOW, I WAS NOT SURPRISED
THAT THEY WERE THE PEOPLE WHO
ACTUALLY FOUND THESE YOUNG
PEOPLE.
>> Andrew: HE'S TALKING ABOUT
RICHARD STANTON AND JOHN
VOLENTHEN, DIVING EXPERTS FOR
SURE AND THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED
IN SEARCH-AND-RESCUE MISSIONS
AROUND THE WORLD.
STANTON IS A FIREFIGHTER BY
TRADE AND HIS LONG-TIME DIVING
PARTNER IS A COMPUTER ENGINEER
AND ALSO A MARATHON RUNNER.
BUT THEIR DIVING REPUTATIONS
PRECEDE THEM.
BACK IN 2010 IT'S BELIEVED THAT
THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT REQUESTED
THEM BY NAME TO ATTEMPT TO
RESCUE A.
IT'S CLEAR THAT THE TEAM IS IN
GOOD HANDS BUT THAT CAVE IS
CRAMPED AND WHILE THE BOY HIS
FRESH WATER DRIPPING IN THEY'VE
GONE FOR WITHOUT FOOD FOR MORE
THAN A WEEK SO THEIR OVERALL
STRENGTH HAS BEEN A CONCERN.
GOING FORWARD THEIR MENTAL STATE
AS WELL.
NOW ONE PERSON WHO MIGHT HAVE A
SENSE OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING
THROUGH IS KATHLEEN GRAHAM.
SHE'S AN ALBERTA-BASED EXPLORER
WHO WAS TRAPPED IN A PARTLY
FLOODED CAVE FOR DAYS AND SHE
SAID SHE HAD TO STAVE OFF PANIC
AHEAD OF HER RESCUE.
>> SO I CAME TO ONE OF THE
AIR SPACES AND IT WAS LIKE THE
SIZE
OF A LEMON.
I COULD GET A BREATH IN AND ONE
EYEBALL OUT AND IT WAS LIKE OH,
BOY.
SO I TURNED IT AROUND AND SO WE
JUST WENT BACK TO CAMP AND WE'RE
HOPING THAT THE WATERS WOULD GO
DOWN.
YOU KIND OF GO BACK INTO
SURVIVAL MODE.
BASICS -- FOOD, SHELTER, STAYING
WARM.
WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO EAT, SO
WE STARTED RATIONING FOOD.
YOU TRY TO FOCUS ON THE THINGS
THAT YOU CAN CONTROL AND THAT'S
JUST STAYING IN A GOOD MOOD AND
TRYING TO SING SONGS AND RECITE
TOLKIN AND WASTE TIME.
YOU'RE PLAYING A LOT OF MIND
TRICKS TRYING TO SUPPRESS ALL OF
THOSE EMOTIONS.
THEN YOU GET TO THE OTHER SIDE
AND
THERE'S THIS HUGE WAVE OF RELIEF
AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE, OKAY, NOW
I'M ACTUALLY SAFE.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THESE BOYS,
THEY FOUND A FRESH WATER SOURCE
AND THEY HAVE BEEN SITTING IN A
TOTALLY ABSENT, IT'S LIKE
SENSORY DEPRIVATION SORT OF
SITUATION.
YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IF IT'S
MORNING OR NIGHT.
WHEN YOU SLEEP YOU DON'T KNOW IF
YOU SLEPT FOR FOUR HOURS OR
EIGHT HOURS AND HOPING AND
PICTURING THEY'D BE SINGING
SONGS AND WASTING TIME JOKING
AROUND AND JUST THE SAME AS WE
WOULD AND TALKING ABOUT ALL OF
THE FOOD THAT YOU'LL EAT WHEN
YOU GET OUT OF HERE.
IF YOU LET YOUR MIND GO INTO A
REALLY NEGATIVE PLACE THEN YOU
DRAG THE WHOLE GROUP DOWN AND
THEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE WORRYING
ABOUT YOU.
AND YOU'RE MAKING THEM WORRY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS ALL
ABOUT STAYING POSITIVE.
>> Andrew: WOW.
SO SHE SAYS THAT HER HEART GOES
OUT TO THE BOYS SOCCER TEAM
TRAPPED AT THIS HOUR.
AND ON A PERSONAL NOTE SHE SAYS
SHE STILL PLANS
TO CONTINUE HER CAVE EXPLORING
HOBBY.
>>> HERE'S WHAT ELSE WE'RE
WORKING ON TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL"...
>>> IN A CBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE, A
FORMER CANADIAN SOLDIER TAKES
OUR CAMERAS TO A MILITARY BASE
WHERE HE SAYS THAT DEADLY AGENT
ORANGE IS BURIED.
>> Rosemary: MILLIONS OF
CANADIANS ARE SWEATING THROUGH A
DEADLY HEAT WAVE THIS WEEK AND
IT'S NOT GOING TO BREAK FOR
DAYS.
JAELA BERNSTIEN TAKES US FOR A
RIDE-ALONG AS EMERGENCY
OFFICIALS CHECK IN ON THE MOST
VULNERABLE IN MONTREAL.
>> Adrienne: BUT FIRST, ONE
WEEKEND, FOUR SHOOTINGS.
A BLOODY CANADA
DAY WEEKEND IN CANADA'S BIGGEST
CITY.
A BLAST OF GUNSHOTS AND A SCREAM
OF SIRENS AND A GROWING FEAR
THAT THE CITY IS NO LONGER SAFE.
THAT IS THE CYCLE THAT TORONTO
SEEMS TRAPPED IN THIS SUMMER.
>> NOW IT'S GUNS, GUNS EVERY
WEEK IT SEEMS ALMOST NOW.
IT MAKES ME FEEL A LITTLE
SHAKEN.
>> Adrienne: THAT WAS A
WITNESS TO THE
CITY'S MOST RECENT SHOOTING THAT
SENT ONE MAN TO HOSPITAL IN THE
EARLY HOURS OF THIS MORNING.
TORONTO EXPERIENCED SHOOTING
INCIDENTS ALL THROUGH CANADA DAY
LONG WEEKEND.
THREE MEN WERE SHOT DEAD ON
SATURDAY.
TWO OF THEM DIED.
FOUR PEOPLE WERE HURT IN ANOTHER
SHOOTING INCIDENT ON SUNDAY.
AND NOW WE HAVE LEARNED TWO
OTHERS WERE INJURED OVERNIGHT
FRIDAY WHEN A WOMAN BLASTED AWAY
A PEDESTRIAN WITH A SHOTGUN OVER
A SUSPECTED ROAD RAGE INCIDENT.
SO FAR 2018 IS THE YEAR TORONTO
GUN VIOLENCE ONLY SEEMS TO GO
UP.
208 SHOOTING INCIDENTS ACROSS
THE CITY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF
THE YEAR, AT LEAST 30 MORE THAN
DURING THE SAME PERIOD LAST
YEAR.
AND FROM THE VICTORIA DAY LONG
WEEKEND TO NOW, AT LEAST 68.
AGAIN, THAT'S SUBSTANTIALLY MORE
THAN LAST YEAR, MOST IN THE
GREATER DOWNTOWN AREA WHICH DOES
CONTAIN SOME OF THE CITY'S MOST
TROUBLED NEIGHBOURHOODS.
SO YOU HAVE GANGS FROM TWO OF
THEM WHICH ARE NOW UNDER EXTREME
FOCUS.
RENALLENT PARK NEIGHBOURHOOD TO
THE EAST OF DOWNTOWN PROPER.
AND ALEXANDRA PARK TO THE WEST.
THE MULTIPLE SHOOTINGS ON THE
CANADA LONG WEEKEND OCCURRED IN
THE MISS OF THE TWO, CLOSE TO
THE EASTON CENTRE AND THE KRRMT
N. TOWER AND THE THEATRE
DISTRICT WHERE EVERY DAY THE
STREETS ARE BUSY WITH TOURISTS,
FAMILIES AND FRIENDS.
NOW THE SPATE OF SHOOTINGS HAS
TORONTONIANS FEELING NERVOUS IN
THEIR SOWN CITY.
AS CBC'S RON CHARLES TELLS US,
THEY'RE ALSO DIVIDED OVER WHAT
TO DO ABOUT IT.
>> Reporter: AFTER A LONG
WEEKEND OF DEADLY GUN VIOLENCE
IN THE CITY, TORONTO'S MAYOR IS
PROMISING TO GET TOUGH.
MORE POLICE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS
AND MORE OFFICERS TO COMBAT GUN
VIOLENCE.
>> WE HAVE TO REDOUBLE OUR
EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET
THESE GANGSTERS, ROUND THEM UP,
GET THEM OFF THE STREET.
>> Reporter: AN APPROACH THAT
DOESN'T WORK FOR ZYA BROWN.
>> OPPRESSION BRINGS VIOLENCE,
PERIOD.
>> Reporter: THE COMMUNITY
VOLUNTEER WARNS THAT SIMPLY
ROUNDING UP AND JAILING GANG
MEMBERS IS A SHORTSIGHTED
SOLUTION.
>> IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE POINT
OF JAIL IS TO PUT THEM IN A CAGE
AND HAVE THEM OUT OF OUR HAIR.
THE MAJORITY OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE
THAT ARE IN PRISON ARE EITHER
NATIVE INDIAN OR BLACK, BUT ALL
OF THE STAFF, THE COUNSELLORS,
THE PROGRAMMES OFFICERS, AND THE
WARDENS, THE MANAGEMENT, THEY'RE
ALL WHITE.
>> Reporter: SHE QUESTIONS HOW
WELL THAT PRISON STAFF CAN
REHABILITATE YOUNG GANG MEMBERS
CLEARED FROM THE TORONTO
STREETS.
THE ORGINISATION SHE FOUND
CALLED THINK TWICE,
TAKES A DIFFERENT TACT USING
REFORMED GANG MEMBERS TO MENTOR
YOUNG GANG MEMBERS BEFORE AND
AFTER THEIR RELEASE.
>> MEETING WITH THESE YOUNG
PEOPLE...
>> Reporter: THAT'S HOW DREW
RAMSEY CAME TO BE A THINK TWICE
VOLUNTEER AFTER SERVING A
FOUR-YEAR PRISON SENTENCE, THE
ONE-TIME GANG MEMBER MET WITH
THINK TWICE MENTORS.
WHEN HE GOT OUT A YEAR AND A
HALF AGO HE STARTED VOLUNTEERING
HIMSELF.
>> YOU'RE TAKING PEOPLE THAT
HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN INSIDE OF
THESE SITUATIONS, YOU'RE TAKING
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PART OF
THIS LIFESTYLE SO THAT THEY KNOW
WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND
THAT CAN RELATE TO THE YOUNG
PERSON, BECAUSE HALF OF THE TIME
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP I ONLY
WANTED TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY THAT
I COULD RELATE TO.
>> Reporter: FOR NOW THOUGH
TORONTO'S MAYOR AND POLICE CHIEF
ARE DISCUSSING PLANS TO REDIRECT
POLICE OFFICERS AWAY FROM
NON-EMERGENCY CALLS TO
INCREASING PATROLS ON THE
STREETS WHERE THE GUNSHOTS RANG
OUT.
RON CHARLES, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Adrienne: SURREY, BRITISH
COLUMBIA, KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT
GANG VIOLENCE TOO.
THAT CITY HAS STRUGGLED FOR MORE
THAN A DECADE WITH IT, INCLUDING
25 SHOOTINGS THIS YEAR, AN
AVERAGE OF ALMOST ONE A WEEK.
THE CITY ANNOUNCED SOME NEW
MEASURES TODAY.
AND AS RENÉE FILIPPONE TELLS US,
ONE THING THAT IT ALREADY KNOWS,
THERE ARE NO EASY FIXES.
[Applause]
>> Reporter: IT'S ALL HANDS ON
DECK WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING
SURREY SAFER.
THAT'S THE PLAN FOR THE MAYOR'S
TASK FORCE ON GANG VIOLENCE.
>> EVERY TIME I HEAR OF ANOTHER
LIFE SENSELESSLY CUT SHORT BY
THIS HORRIFIC ACTS OF VIOLENCE
MY HEART SINKS.
>> Reporter: PREVENTION IS A
MAJOR PILLAR OF THE PLAN.
JORDAN BUNA IS PART OF IT.
HE JOINED A GANG AT 17 AND NOW
WORKS TO KEEP KIDS OUT OF THEM.
>> CRIMINAL GANGS HAVE CHANGED
THEIR TACTICS AND ARE RECRUITING
AT EARLIER AND EARLIER AGES.
WE MUST RESPOND AND DO THE SAME.
>> Reporter: FRUSTRATION OVER
GANG VIOLENCE HAS BEEN GROWING
IN RECENT WEEKS.
IN EARLY JUNE TWO TEENAGED BOYS
WERE KILLED IN A TARGETED
SHOOTING.
NEITHER WERE KNOWN TO POLICE.
OUTRAGE OVER THEIR DEATHS
MOTIVATED THOUSANDS TO PROTEST
AT CITY HALL.
THE RALLY CALLED "WAKE UP,
SURREY" WAS A PUSH FOR ACTION.
THE MEASURES ANNOUNCED TODAY
INCLUDE MORE SUPPORT AND
INTERVENTION FOR PRE-TEENS AND
TEENAGERS.
CREATING AN INADMISSIBLE
PATRON PROGRAMME TO KEEP THE
GANG MEMBERS OUT OF LOCAL
BUSINESSES AND BARS.
AND DOUBLING THE SURREY RCMPs
GANG ENFORCEMENT UNIT.
THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TASK FORCE
TO DEAL WITH VIOLENCE IN SURREY.
FORMER MAYOR DIANNE WATTS
LAUNCHED ONE
FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN THE MURDER
RATE SPIKED.
IN A RECENT SURVEY MORE THAN
HALF OF THE RESPONDENTS HERE IN
SURREY FELT THAT THEIR CITY WAS
LESS SAFE THAN ANY OTHER METRO
VANCOUVER COMMUNITY.
AND THAT NOT ENOUGH WAS BEING
DONE TO DEAL WITH IT.
>> I'M HAPPY IF THEY DO
SOMETHING, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO DO ANYTHING.
>> Reporter: GURCH RPREET HAS
THREE
SONS, TWO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN
CRIME.
HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF
ACTION AND HELP FOR PARENTS OVER
THE YEARS.
>> ANY SEMBLANCE OR ANY FIRE
TRUCK OR POLICE CAR AT THE
NIGHTTIME, THEY ARE PASSING OUR
HOUSE OR CLOSE BY TO THE HOUSE
WITH THE SIRENS.
WE CAN'T SLEEP.
WE ALWAYS ARE THINKING THEY
BRING US OUR KID AND MAYBE
THEY'RE DEAD OR SAY THAT IS YOUR
DEAD BODY.
>> Reporter: A SENTIMENT
SHARED BY MANY PARENTS, NOT JUST
IN THE LOWER MAINLAND.
RENÉE FILIPPONE, CBC NEWS,
SURREY.
>> Adrienne: SO THE RCMP
STATISTICS POINT TO THE
IMPORTANCE OF EARLY INTERVENTION
INTERVENTION.
SURREY GANG MEMBERS ARE ON
AVERAGE 23 YEARS OLD AND THE
TROUBLE STARTS YOUNG.
MOST WERE 13 THE FIRST TIME THEY
WERE SUSPENDED FROM SCHOOL AND
16 WHEN THEY COMMITTED THEIR
VERY FIRST CRIME.
TONIGHT, ROSIE, YOU'RE FOLLOWING
ANOTHER SORT OF CRIME STORY, A
TRAGIC ONE, OUT OF THE U.K.?
>> Rosemary: THAT'S RIGHT,
ADRIENNE.
A HOSPITAL WORKER THERE IS
ACCUSED OF A MONSTROUS CRIME,
MURDERING THE BABIES IN HER
CARE.
A HOUSE AND VEHICLE WERE
SEARCHED TODAY IN THE CITY IN
CHESTER NEAR LIVERPOOL.
THE ALLEGED MURDERS HAPPENED IN
A HOSPITAL A
SHORT DISTANCE AWAY.
TONIGHT SOME BRITISH TABLOIDS
ARE IDENTIFYING THE SUSPECT AS A
28-YEAR-OLD
HEALTH CARE WORKER WHO HAD BEEN
WORKING WITH BABIES IN THE
HOSPITAL SINCE 2011.
THOMAS DAIGLE HAS BEEN FOLLOWING
THIS STORY FROM LONDON.
OKAY, WHAT EXACTLY IS SHE
ACCUSED OF,
THOMAS?
>> Reporter: WELL, POLICE HAVE
ONLY SAID THAT THEY SUSPECT THIS
WOMAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
MURDER OF EIGHT BABIES AND THE
ATTEMPTED MURDER OF ANOTHER SIX.
THEY'VE NOT SAID HOW THE BABIES
MAY HAVE BEEN KILLED OR WHAT LED
THEM TO THIS SUSPECT IN
PARTICULAR.
NOW THE LEAD DETECTIVE TODAY
CALLED THIS A HIGHLY COMPLEX AND
VERY SENSITIVE INVESTIGATION.
AND THE POLICE STRESS THAT THEIR
WORK IN THIS CASE IS ONGOING.
KEEP IN MIND THE WOMAN IS
ACCUSED OF KILLING EIGHT BABIES.
THERE ARE ANOTHER NINE DEATHS
ALSO UNDER INVESTIGATION,
ROSEMARY.
>> Rosemary: OKAY.
SO NOT SAYING A WHOLE LOT, BUT
HOW DID THE POLICE INVESTIGATION
COME ABOUT?
>> Reporter: WELL, THE
MANAGEMENT AT THE HOSPITAL, THE
COUNTESS OF CHESTER HOSPITAL,
CALLED IN POLICE LAST YEAR
BECAUSE THEY NOTICED A SPIKE IN
DEATHS IN THE NEONATAL CARE
UNIT.
SPECIFICALLY BETWEEN JUNE 2015
AND JUNE 2016.
THEY KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS
WRONG.
COMPARED TO 40 OTHER HEALTH CARE
NETWORKS ACROSS THE U.K., THIS
HOSPITAL HAD THE HIGHEST RATE OF
DEATHS OF NEWBORNS.
THERE HAD ALREADY BEEN AN
INQUIRY INTO THAT UNUSUALLY HIGH
DEATH RATE AND IT FOUND NO
DEFINITIVE EXPLANATION.
THAT'S WHAT LED POLICE TO BE
CALLED IN.
THEY'VE SENSE ENDED THEIR
INVESTIGATION TO FOCUS ON 17
BABIES WHO DIED AND ANOTHER 15
WHO FELL ILL AND NEEDED URGENT
CARE ALL IN 2015 AND 2016.
>> Rosemary: OKAY.
SO HOW ARE THE FAMILIES
RESPONDING TO THIS NEWS?
>> Reporter: WELL, IT'S HARD
TO IMAGINE HOW DIFFICULT A DAY
THIS MUST HAVE BEEN FOR THEM.
LAWYERS REPRESENTING THE
FAMILIES OF TWO OF THE BABIES
WHO DIED RELEASED A STATEMENT
TODAY SAYING THAT THE DEATHS OF
ANY CHILD IS A TRAGEDY, BUT THIS
IS EXACERBATED IN CIRCUMSTANCES
WHERE THE QUESTIONS REMAIN
UNANSWERED.
WHAT THE POLICE HAVE UNDERSCORED
TODAY IS THAT AT THE HEART OF
THIS CASE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
FAMILIES IN MOURNING WHO JUST
WANT ANSWERS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
TO THEIR NEWBORN BABIES TWO OR
THREE YEARS AGO, ROSEMARY.
>> Rosemary: A LOT OF
ANSWERS STILL TO COME.
THOMAS DAIGLE, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
>> Reporter: OKAY.
>> Rosemary: THE ACCUSATIONS
ARE CHILLING AND PERHAPS FOR
TORONTO RESIDENTS THEY MAY BRING
TO MIND ANOTHER CASE FROM NEARLY
40 YEARS AGO.
NURSE SUSAN NELLIS BECAME THE
FOCUS OF ATTENTION FOR A STRING
OF
UNUSUAL NEWBORN DEATHS AT
TORONTO'S HOSPITAL FOR SICK
CHILDREN.
SHE WAS INITIALLY CHARGED WITH
FOUR MURDERS BUT A JUDGE
DISMISSED THE CASE AT A
PRELIMINARY INQUIRY.
IN RECENT YEARS EXPERTS HAVE
SUGGESTED THAT THE DEATHS MAY
HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY A CHEMICAL
COMPOUND USED IN I.V. LINES AND
SOME SYRINGES AT THE TIME BUT
THAT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN.
THOSE DEATHS ARE STILL BEING
TREATED AS UNSOLVED MURDERS.
>> Andrew: WE'RE TRACKING A
NUMBER OF OTHER DEVELOPING
STORIES TONIGHT, INCLUDING A
SEARCH UNDERWAY NORTH OF
VANCOUVER FOR THREE PEOPLE WHO
MAY HAVE GONE OVER A WATERFALL.
IT HAPPENED AT SHANNON FALLS.
WITNESSES SAW THREE PEOPLE ENTER
A POOL NEAR THE TOP OF THE FALLS
AND THEN DISAPPEAR.
OFFICIALS ARE SEARCHING ABOUT
THE THE AREA IS STEEP AND IT CAN
BE DANGEROUS.
IT RISES MORE THAN 300 METRES UP
FROM THE HIGHWAY.
>>> ONTARIO'S NEW PREMIER DOUG
FORD FOLLOWED UP TODAY ON A KEY
CAMPAIGN PROMISE.
HE OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED THAT
HE'S SCRAPPING THE PROVINCE'S
CAP-AND-TRADE PROGRAMME.
FORD SAID IN A STATEMENT THAT
THE MOVE WILL HELP TO LOWER GAS
PRICES BUT HIS NEW GOVERNMENT
HAS NOT YET SAID HOW MUCH IT
WILL COST TO PULL OUT OF THE
PROGRAMME.
>>> NEWS FROM THE PRIME
MINISTER'S OFFICE TODAY, JUSTIN
TRUDEAU IS PLANNING TO VISIT
CANADIAN TROOPS IN LATVIA.
HE'S EXPECTED TO MAKE THE STOP
NEXT WEEK BEFORE ATTENDING THE
NATO SUMMIT IN BRUSSELS.
IT WILL ALSO BE THE FIRST
BILATERAL VISIT TO LATVIA BY A
CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER.
>> Adrienne: STILL AHEAD ON
"THE NATIONAL"... HOW TO STOP
THE VIOLENCE.
MY CONVERSATION WITH THREE
TORONTO COMMUNITY LEADERS
WORKING AGAINST THE RISING TIDE
OF SHOOTING INCIDENTS.
THAT'S AHEAD.
>> Andrew: PLUS, THEY CALL
THEMSELVES THE ABNORMAL BEAUTY
COMPANY.
AND TRUE TO FORM, THERE IS A
BIZARRE STORY BEHIND THIS
INCREDIBLY POPULAR CANADIAN
BUSINESS.
IS IT REAL OR A PLOY?
>> Rosemary: AND IF YOU SET
YOUR P.V.R., COVER YOUR EARS FOR
A MINUTE.
A HUGE WIN
FOR ENGLAND AT THE WORLD CUP.
JUST TAKE A LOOK AT HOW IT WENT
DOWN AT HOME.
[Cheers and Applause]
>> AND I THINK THAT MEANS THAT
ENGLAND WON.
[Cheers and Applause]
>> YES!
YES!
[Cheers and Applause]
>> Rosemary: AND CELEBRATE
MORE FOOTBALL FANATICS IN OUR
"MOMENT OF THE DAY."
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>> Rosemary: NATIONAL DEFENCE
WILL SOON SEARCH A MILITARY BASE
THAT SOME BELIEVES CONTAINS A
DEADLY CACHE OF AGENT ORANGE.
THAT'S THE DANGEROUS CHEMICAL
DEFOLIANT USED BY
THE U.S. ARMY IN THE VIETNAM WAR
AND TESTED IN NEW BRUNSWICK IN
THE 1960s.
CANCER, BIRTH DEFECTS AND OTHER
ILLNESSES ARE BELIEVED TO BE
LINKED TO THOSE TESTS AND
DEFENCE OFFICIALS AGREED TO
VISIT A SPOT WHERE ONE RETIRED
SOLDIER INSISTS THAT BARRELS OF
AGENT ORANGE WERE DUMPED AND
BURIED AND STILL UNDERGROUND.
OUR MURRAY BREWSTER WENT WITH
THEM TO CANADIAN FORCES BASE
GAGETOWN TO FIND OUT MORE.
>> Reporter: THIS WAS NOT A
SIMPLE TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE FOR
AL WHITE.
BASE GAGETOWN WHERE HE SERVED IN
THE 1980s.
HE KNOWS THESE BACKROADS LIKE
THE BACK OF HIS HAND AND HE LED
NATIONAL DEFENCE ENVIRONMENT
OFFICIALS DIRECTLY
TO THE SITE WHERE HE BELIEVES
THAT AGENT ORANGE BARRELS WERE
BURIED.
>> WHAT WE WERE THINKING IS TO
JUST WALK UP AND DOWN...
>> Reporter: WHITE KEPT HIS
SILENCE ABOUT WHAT HE SAYS HE
SAW 30 YEARS AGO UNTIL FRIENDS
STARTED DYING OF CANCER.
HE FEELS GUILTY FOR NOT SPEAKING
UP SOONER.
IT WAS HERE IN 1985 THAT WHITE
SAYS OVER 40-BARRELS OF THE
NOTORIOUS DEFOLIANT WERE BURIED
UNDER THE COVER OF DARKNESS.
>> SO I THINK THAT WE'RE
STANDING RIGHT ABOUT THERE.
>> Reporter: AND THERE WAS
SOMETHING ABOUT THE LAY OF THE
LAND THAT CAUGHT THE EYE OF
DEFENCE OFFICIALS.
>> YOU WILL NOTE THAT THERE'S
TALLER TREES OVER THERE AND
SHORTER HERE SO THERE WAS
SOMETHING WITH ACTIVITY HERE.
>> Reporter: WHILE THEY
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOMETHING MIGHT
BE BURIED HERE, OFFICIALS DOUBT
THAT IT WAS AGENT ORANGE, SAYING
THAT DRUMS FROM THE 1960s TEST
WENT BACK ACROSS THE
BORDER WITH THE U.S. ARMY.
BUT THEY'RE NOT 100% CERTAIN.
>> IF THERE IS SOMETHING THERE
THAT WE MISSED WE WANT TO FIND
IT.
>> Reporter: THERE'S SOME WHO
SAY THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE
D.N.D. INVESTIGATION FINDS THAT
AL WHITE'S ALLEGATIONS HAVE
SERVED TO REMIND PEOPLE OF THE
LEGACY OF
CHEMICAL CONTAMINATION HERE AND
IN SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
>> ALMOST EVERYONE DIED OF
CANCER AND MY STREET WAS CALLED
CANCER ALLEY.
>> Reporter: A 2007 FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT STUDY INTO AGENT
ORANGE USE AT GAGETOWN SAID THAT
THERE WERE NO LONG-TERM HEALTH
RISKS.
RESIDENTS ARGUE THAT THERE'S
BEEN DECADES OF HERBICIDE
SPRAYING AND THEY WANT AN
APOLOGY.
YOU'RE ANGRY?
>> YEAH, I AM.
I AM ANGRY THEY DID IT TO US.
THEY KNEW, THEY KNEW WHAT THEY
WERE DOING.
>> Reporter: AS FOR AL WHITE
HE SAYS THAT HIS INVOLVEMENT IS
OVER AND IT'S NOW UP TO NATIONAL
DEFENCE.
FOR HIM THIS HAS BEEN A JOURNEY
OF ATONEMENT AND SERVICE.
BEING A GOOD SOLDIER?
>> YEAH.
NEVER GOES AWAY.
YOU DON'T LOSE IT.
>> Reporter: MURRAY BREWSTER,
CBC NEWS, BASE GAGETOWN, NEW
BRUNSWICK.
>> Adrienne: STILL AHEAD ON
"THE NATIONAL," WHAT IS BEHIND
TORONTO'S RASH OF SHOOTINGS AND
WHAT CAN BE DONE TO END IT?
I SIT DOWN WITH THREE PEOPLE
WORKING TO END THAT VIOLENCE.
>> Andrew: PLUS, A CANADIAN
SKINCARE COMPANY AND WHAT MAY
BE ITS SECRET WEAPON IN
MARKETING.
WHAT'S BEHIND THESE OFFBEAT
VIDEOS FROM THE COMPANY'S
FOUNDER?
>> GUYS, YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T
SMOKE AND I DO DRUGS AND SHIT,
IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ASK, BUT I
(*)
>> Rosemary: FROM ONTARIO TO
THE MARITIMES, MILLIONS OF
CANADIANS ARE WILTING UNDER THE
SWELTER OF A HEAT WAVE.
AND FOR THE SICK, THE VERY
YOUNG, AND THE VERY OLD, IT CAN
BE A REAL DANGER.
>> OUR MAIN PRIORITY IS TO
ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ALL
MONTREALERS.
WE NOW MOVE TO THE INTERVENTION
PHASE OF OUR EMERGENCY PLAN.
>> Rosemary: MONTREAL BLAMES
THE HEAT FOR SIX DEATHS.
THE NUMBER ISN'T PARTICULARLY
HIGH BUT THIS CITY HAS A LOW
THRESHOLD FOR ACTION BECAUSE THE
TOLL DID HIT ALARMING LEVELS NOT
SO LONG AGO.
SO 17,000 LITRES OF WATER HAVE
BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO GROUPS THAT
HELP THE HOMELESS.
CITY POOLS HAVE NOW EXTENDED
THEIR HOURS.
AND FIRST RESPONDERS ARE
KNOCKING ON DOORS TO CHECK ON
THE VULNERABLE.
JAELA BERNSTIEN SHOWS US HOW
MONTREAL IS COPING.
>> Reporter: ANY HOPE OF A
REPRIEVE IS DAYS AWAY.
TEMPERATURES AREN'T EXPECTED TO
DIP IN MONTREAL UNTIL FRIDAY.
THE CITY IS URGING PEOPLE TO DO
WHAT THEY CAN TO COOL OFF.
THE STIFLING HEAT IS A REAL
DANGER, ESPECIALLY FOR THE
ELDERLY AND THE SICK.
AT THIS LONG-TERM CARE HOME SOME
ROOMS STILL DON'T HAVE AIR
CONDITIONING.
HE SAYS THAT HE'S BEEN SLEEPING
IN HIS WHEELCHAIR IN A COMMON
ROOM THAT'S KEPT COOL.
>> [Speaking French]
>> Reporter: THE DAYS OF
SCORCHING WEATHER HAVE
CONTRIBUTED TO AT LEAST SIX
DEATHS SO FAR IN MONTREAL.
WHILE OFFICIALS HESITATE TO
MINIMIZE THAT, THEY SAY THAT
IT'S NOT OUTSIDE THE NORM.
DURING THE 2010 HEAT WAVE, 106
PEOPLE DIED IN THE MONTREAL
AREA.
>> WE'RE NOT SEEING AN EXCESS
LEVEL OF DEATHS, BUT, OF COURSE,
THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE DYING,
THEY HAVE, MOST OF THEM, OTHER
CONDITIONS.
SO THEY HAVE CHRONIC DISEASES
AND THEY HAVE MENTAL HEALTH
PROBLEMS OR PROBLEMS WITH DRUGS.
>> Reporter: SPECIAL TEAMS ARE
DOING DOOR-TO-DOOR CHECKS
LOOKING OUT FOR PEOPLE WHO COULD
BE AT RISK.
>> IT'S VERY HOT HERE AND DRINK
A LOT OF WATER DURING THE DAY,
OKAY?
>> NO PROBLEM.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: THEY'RE REMINDING
RESIDENTS TO WATCH OUT FOR
SYMPTOMS OF HEAT STROKE AND
DEHYDRATION.
>> IF THEY HAVE LIKE CRAMPS,
STOMACH CRAMPS, AND BIG
HEADACHES AND IF THEY FEEL THEY
HAVE PROBLEMS BREATHING, OR IF
THEY FEEL A LITTLE BIT DIZZY AND
THEY TALK AND IT DOESN'T REALLY
MAKE SENSE, THOSE ARE THE SIGNS.
>> Reporter: FOR THOSE MAKING
THE MOST OF THE HEAT AND THOSE
WORKERS WHO HAVE TO TOIL IN IT,
THE CITY SAYS THAT EVERYONE
SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS OF WARNING
SIGNS.
JAELA BERNSTIEN, CBC NEWS,
MONTREAL.
>> Adrienne: NOW SUMMER
DANGERS ARE ABOUT MORE THAN JUST
THE HEAT.
THIS YEAR THEY AUSSEEM TO BE
ABOUT VIOLENCE,
GUN VIOLENCE.
THE THING IS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING
AT THE STATISTICS ALONE THE
NUMBERS SUGGEST THAT TORONTO,
THE BIGGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY
IS ALSO ONE OF THE SAFEST.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU
BREAK DOWN CRIME ON A PER CAPITA
BASIS, BUT LIFE DOESN'T ALWAYS
FEEL IN SYNC WITH THE STATS,
ESPECIALLY AFTER TORONTO
EXPERIENCED A SURGE IN SHOOTINGS
ALL THROUGHOUT THIS HOT CANADA
DAY LONG WEEKEND.
>> THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME
THAT I'VE HAD TO CALL THE COPS
ABOUT A SHOOTING.
BEFORE IT USED TO JUST BE PEOPLE
THREATENING YOU BUT NOW IT'S
GUNS.
>> Adrienne: IT'S NOT JUST HIS
DOWNTOWN NEIGHBOURHOOD THAT IS
DEALING WITH THE VIOLENCE
EITHER.
SHOOTINGS ARE UP ALL OVER FROM
THE DOWNTOWN CORE TO THE
SUBURBS.
THERE'S ALREADY BEEN OVER 200
SHOOTING INCIDENTS ACROSS
TORONTO AND WE'RE BARELY INTO
JULY.
SO WHAT TO DO?
WITH A PROBLEM THIS COMPLEX WE
WANTED TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO
ARE DEEPLY INVESTED IN MAKING
THEIR COMMUNITIES, THEIR CITY,
TORONTO, SAFE.
SO WALIED KHOGALI IS A COMMUNITY
ORGANIZER AND AN ACTIVIST IN
TORONTO AND HE'S RUNNING FOR
CITY COUNCIL IN REGENT PARK,
ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS DEEPLY
AFFECTED BY GUN VIOLENCE.
AND SUREYA IBRAHIM, A LONG-TIME
RESIDENT OF
REGENT PARK, YOU WORK WITH
AT-RISK YOUTH.
AND ANN JEANETTE HUTCHINSON, A
COUNSELLOR
AND A GUN VIOLENCE SURVIVOR.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, ANN
JEANETTE, I
FEEL THAT WE SHOULD START WITH
YOU BECAUSE I WONDER WHAT WAS
GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND AS YOU
KEPT HEARING STORY AFTER STORY
OF MORE GUN VIOLENCE HERE?
>> I COULDN'T HELP BUT TO FEEL
WORRIED ABOUT THE WAY THAT
THINGS ARE SPIRALLING DOWNHILL.
I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED
TO COME
TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND WE
NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO PUT AN
END TO THIS.
>> Adrienne: AND, SUREYA, YOU
SEE THIS ALL OF THE TIME.
I MEAN, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE IN
A POSITION OF HAVING TO PLAN
SOME OF THE FUNERALS FOR THESE
YOUNG PEOPLE.
WHAT IS YOUR INSTINCT, IS IT
GETTING WORSE?
>> YES, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S
YOUNG PEOPLE AND IT'S GETTING
YOUNGER.
IT'S HARD TO SUPPORT THE MOMS
WHO HAVE LOST THEIR KIDS.
AND SEEING THEM EVERY DAY IN THE
COMMUNITY AND PLANNING THE
FUNERAL.
YEAH, THE KIDS ARE GETTING
YOUNGER,
IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, GRADES
SEVEN AND EIGHT.
IT'S SHOCKING TO SEE THE
YOUNG PEOPLE WITH THE CONFIDENCE
THEY HAVE IN THE SONGS THEY
PRODUCE.
IT'S VERY SAD AND IT'S SCARY AS
WELL AS A MOM
AND SEEING THOSE VIDEOS AS WELL.
>> Adrienne: WHEN YOU SAY THE
CONFIDENCE THEY HAVE WITH THE
SONGS THEY PRODUCE, YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, VIDEOS
FOR SOCIAL MEDIA WITH A LOT OF
BOASTING AND A LOT OF GUNS.
>> AND THE LANGUAGE THEY USE AS
WELL AND IT'S, UNFORTUNATELY,
IT'S SAD THE LANGUAGE THEY USE
AND THE CONFIDENCE THEY HAVE IN
A WAY THAT THERE'S NO FEAR USING
THOSE LANGUAGE.
>> Adrienne: WITH YOUR
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE POLICE
AND THE WORK THAT DO YOU IN 51
DIVISION, I KNOW THAT THE TOPIC
OF GUNS COMES UP.
WHAT IS YOUR SENSE FROM POLICE
AND THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
ABOUT WHERE THESE GUNS ARE
COMING FROM?
BECAUSE THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT
THERE ARE MORE OF THEM, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
AND I'M CURIOUS HOW DO THEY
ACCESS THOSE GUNS.
I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF OUR
COMMUNITY POLICE OFFICERS AND HE
SAID THAT THEY'RE COMING FROM
THE U.S., FROM BUFFALO, AND THEY
COME WITH THE CAR AND THEY PUT
IT UNDER THE CAR AND THAT'S HOW
THEY USE THE FEMALE TO DRIVE IN
TO THE CITY.
>> Adrienne: WALIED, WHAT DO
YOU THINK WHEN YOU HEAR SUREYA'S
STORY?
>> I THINK THAT SUREYA IS
ARTICULATING THE CONCERNS OF
MANY FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY,
PARENTS INCLUDED.
I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
US TO THINK ABOUT MENTORSHIP AND
THINK ABOUT EMPLOYMENT
OPPORTUNITIES IN THE COMMUNITY
THAT WILL HELP THESE YOUNG FOLKS
TO GET ACCESS TO MEANINGFUL
EMPLOYMENT.
AND I DON'T WANT MORE GUNS IN
OUR STREETS AND I DON'T WANT
MORE GUNS IN REGENT PARK.
AND I WANT TO WORK WITH FOLKS,
NOT JUST -- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
THE COMMUNITY IS READY, BUT WITH
FOLKS AT THE CITY LEVEL TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THE
SYSTEMIC CAUSES AS TO WHY WE
HAVE AN INCREASE IN GUN
VIOLENCE.
>> Adrienne: SO YOU'RE TALKING
SYSTEMIC CAUSES AND THE MAYOR
TODAY WAS TALKING ABOUT
SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
LET'S HAVE A LITTLE LISTEN TO
HOW HE DESCRIBED WHAT IS
HAPPENING...
>> WE HAVE TO REDOUBLE OUR
EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET
THESE GANGSTERS, ROUND THEM UP
AND GET THEM OFF THE STREET.
POLICE CHIEF SAID THIS MORNING
THAT 90% -- 90% OF THE SHOOTINGS
TAKING PLACE ARE CONNECTED IN
SOME WAY OR THE OTHER TO
GANGSTERS AND THEIR AFFILIATES.
>> Adrienne: WALIED, WHAT DO
YOU THINK OF THE LANGUAGE LIKE
THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT LANGUAGE
IS IN MY OPINION, THE
MOST CONSTRUCTIVE.
THERE'S NO ROOM FOR MORE FEAR IN
THIS CONVERSATION.
>> Adrienne: SUREYA, I SAW YOU
SHAKING YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU WERE
LISTENING TO THE MAYOR.
I CAN SEE A LOT OF CANADIANS
SAYING, SURE, ANYONE WHO WAVES A
GUN AROUND IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO
IS PROBABLY A GANGSTER AND, YES,
I WANT HIM OFF THE STREET.
SO WHAT ARE THOSE PEOPLE NOT
GETTING OR MAYBE WHAT IS THE
MAYOR NOT GETTING?
>> SO THE LANGUAGE THAT HE USED,
AND IT'S ALSO SOCIAL MEDIA AND
IT'S THE RACIST COMMENTS THAT HE
MADE.
THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE AS
A LEADER OF THE CITY.
AND WE ARE A CITY OF DIVERSE
PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING US
AROUND THE WORLD.
AND AS THE LEADER OF THE CITY
THIS IS WHERE WE COME TOGETHER
AND SUPPORT THE ABILITY TO UNITE
AND SUPPORT THOSE MEN WHO LOST
THEIR CHILD.
AND TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THOSE
YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE LOST AND
GIVING THEM A HAND AND WE COULD
DO BETTER.
>> Adrienne: YOU KNOW PEOPLE
WHO HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF GUN
VIOLENCE I WOULD IMAGINE ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANT
TO DO IS TO RUN AWAY.
BUT YOU HAVE STAYED AND YOU ARE
STILL WORKING WITH PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY.
WHY?
WHY HAVEN'T YOU JUST RUN FOR
YOUR SAFETY?
>> BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF I
DON'T DO ANYTHING, I DON'T FEEL
THAT ANYTHING IS GOING TO BE
DONE.
OR IF I DON'T USE MY VOICE AND
USE MY EXPERIENCE TO HELP
OTHERS, WHO IS GOING TO DO IT?
>> Adrienne: SO YOU TRY TO
WORK WITH YOUNG MEN WHO HAVE
JUST GOTTEN OUT OF JAIL?
>> THAT'S MY GOAL TO START A
PROGRAMME, A REINTEGRATION
PROGRAMME, TO REINTEGRATE
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMING OUT
OF JAIL, TO REINTEGRATE THEM
BACK INTO SOCIETY.
AND TO PREVENT ANY RECURRING
CRIMES FROM HAPPENING.
AND I FEEL LIKE MORE PROGRAMMES
LIKE THAT SHOULD BE OUT THERE
INSTEAD OF INCREASING THE POLICE
IN THE STREETS.
I FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD BE
INCREASING THE PROGRAMMING TO
PREVENT, YOU KNOW, THESE AT-RISK
YOUTH FROM COMMITTING THESE
CRIMES.
>> Adrienne: OKAY, AND ANN
JEANETTE, AND SUREYA, AND
WALIED, THANK YOU.
JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE
CONVERSATION.
WE HAVE MORE FROM THIS ONGOING
STORY ON OUR INSTAGRAM
FEED, INCLUDING IMAGES FROM A
COMMUNITY IN MOURNING AT THE
VIGIL FOR JAHVANTE SMART, BETTER
KNOWN AS THE RAPPER SMOKE DAWG.
HE WAS GUNNED DOWN IN BROAD
DAYLIGHT ON SATURDAY.
YOU CAN FIND THEM ON OUR
INSTAGRAM PAGE
AT @CBCTHENATIONAL.
(*)
>> Andrew: TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL" ANOTHER BIG STEP FOR
THE HUMBOLDT BRONCOS.
THEY NAMED NATHAN OYSTRICK AS
THEIR HEAD COACH FOR THE NEXT
SEASON.
THE GIG IS OVEHE TAKES OVER FOR DARCY
HOGAN WHO WAS KILLED IN THE
HUMBOLDT BRONCOS BUS CRASH.
>>> JOSÉ BAUTISTA RETURNED TO
THE ROGER CENTRE FOR FIRST TIME
SINCE HIS NINE-SEASON CAREER
WITH TORONTO CAME TO AN END LAST
SEASON.
THE NEW YORK METS LOST TONIGHT'S
GAME, 8-6.
>>> IT'S TIME TO SEE WHAT
PERFORMANCE REALLY LOOKS LIKE.
>> IN THE MULTIBILLION DOLLAR
WORLD OF SKINCARE, FAMOUS
BEAUTIES PUSH THE PRODUCTS.
>> IT'S TIME TO GET YOUR GLOW
ON.
>> Rosemary: YOU MIGHT CALL IT
INDUSTRY STANDARD BUT COULD THIS
BE A DIFFERENT WAY TO DRIVE
SALES?
>> I'M ALONE HERE AND I AM...
>> Rosemary: AN UPSTART
CANADIAN COMPANY GOT A REAL
BOOST AFTER ITS FOUNDER POSTED
STRANGE MESSAGES ONLINE.
>> I HAVE STUFF GOING ON.
>> Rosemary: WERE THEY SIGNS
OF CORPORATE TROUBLE OR JUST A
NOVEL WAY TO GENERATE BUZZ?
THE DECIEM COMPANY CALLS ITSELF
"ABNORMAL."
AARON SALTZMAN FOUND OUT JUST
HOW TRUE THAT IS.
(*)
>> Reporter: TWICE A DAY,
MORNING AND EVENING, LILLIANA
KIA TAKES TIME TO CARE FOR HER
SKIN.
SHE USES ONE PRODUCT LINE
EXCLUSIVELY.
IT'S CALLED "THE ORDINARY."
>> IT WORKS AND IT WORKS
AMAZINGLY.
AND WHEN I SAY IT WORKS I MEAN I
HAVE NOTICED THAT IF I STOP
USING IT THAT MY FINE LINES KIND
OF POP UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT.
>> Reporter: BUT THERE'S
ANOTHER KEY REASON WHY KIA IS SO
KEEN ON THE ORDINARY.
>> $5.80, THAT'S UNHEARD OF.
>> Reporter: THE PRICE.
SHE USED TO SPEND ABOUT $100 A
MONTH ON SKINCARE PRODUCTS AND
WITH "THE ORDINARY" SHE SPENDS
LESS THAN $12.
>> WHO WANTS TO PAY $60 FOR A
SERUM WHEN YOU CAN PAY $9 AND
GET THE EXACT SAME RESULTS?
>> Reporter: THAT SENTIMENT
HELPED A SMALL CANADIAN START-UP
BECOME ONE OF THE FASTEST
GROWING AND MOST DISRUPTIVE
SKINCARE COMPANIES IN THE WORLD.
DECIEM DUBS ITSELF THE ABNORMAL
BEAUTY COMPANY.
AND IN MANY WAYS THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT IT IS.
NOT LEAST BECAUSE IN THE
SKINCARE BUSINESS QUALITY HAS
ALWAYS MEANT EXPENSIVE.
CHERYL WISHOVER IS A SENIOR
BEAUTY REPORTER WITH "RACKED," A
DIGITAL PUBLICATION BASED IN NEW
YORK CITY.
>> THEIR PRODUCTS ARE MARKED UP
80%, 90%, 10 TIMES OF WHAT THEY
COST TO MAKE BECAUSE OF
MARKETING AND PACKAGING AND
BECAUSE CONSUMERS HAVE THE
PERCEPTION THAT THE MORE
EXPENSIVE SOMETHING IS THE
BETTER THAT IT IS.
>> Reporter: DECIEM TURNED
THAT ON ITS HEAD, THE ORDINARY
COMES IN UTILITARIAN TINCTURE
BOTTLES WITH PLAIN WHITE LABELS
AND NAMES THAT SOUND LIKE THEY
BELONG IN A LAB,
LIKE RETINOL AND IT IS SO MUCH
CHEAPER.
>> PRODUCTS ARE LESS THAN $10,
OFTEN LESS THAN $5, WHICH IS
COMPLETELY UNHEARD OF IN THE
BEAUTY INDUSTRY AT ALL, EVEN FOR
DRUGSTORE BRANDS.
>> THIS IS WHERE THE MAGIC
HAPPENS?
>> THIS IS WHERE THE MAGIC
HAPPENS.
SO NEW FORMULATIONS AND ONCE
THEY'RE DEVELOPED THEY GO INTO
THIS INCUBATOR.
>> Reporter: AT DECIEM'S
TORONTO HEADQUARTERS WE MEET ITS
HIGH ENERGY ENIGMATIC FOUNDER
AND C.E.O. BRANDON TRUAXE.
>> WE ARE BECOMING A COMPANY AND
IN A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF
WE'LL BE...
>> Reporter: HE PROCLAIMS THAT
HE'S SCREWED UP.
IT'S ALL PART OF THE IMAGE OF A
BUSINESS AND A C.E.O. DOING
THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
AN IMAGE THAT ALLOWS HIM TO SAY
THINGS LIKE THE TRADITIONAL
SKINCARE INDUSTRY IS A SCAM.
>> BUSINESS IS SO SIMPLE IF THE
PRODUCT HAS A FUNCTION.
LIKE, IT IS SO SIMPLE.
IT BECOMES COMPLICATED WHEN YOU
ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE SOMEBODY
TO BUY SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T
NEED.
>> Reporter: SO DECIEM DOESN'T
TRY TO SELL PEOPLE STUFF THROUGH
TRADITIONAL ADVERTISING.
IT RELIES ON SOCIAL MEDIA,
MAINLY INSTAGRAM POSTS AND WORD
OF MOUTH FROM LOYAL CUSTOMERS.
>> IT'S JUST THIS NAKED, PLAIN,
CHEAP, VERY AFFORDABLE.
SO I LOVE IT.
>> I THINK IT FEELS HONEST.
YEAH.
>> DEFINITELY.
IT WORKS AT A GOOD PRICE.
>> Reporter: STARTED FROM
SCRATCH JUST FIVE YEARS AGO,
THERE ARE NOW 24 STORES IN SIX
COUNTRIES WITH 18 MORE UNDER
CONSTRUCTION.
THIS YEAR THE COMPANY WILL
REPORTEDLY BRING IN $300 MILLION
IN SALES.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT
ONLINE.
IT'S BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL THAT
LAST YEAR ESTEE LAUDER BECAME A
SHAREHOLDER, BUYING A REPORTED
28% STAKE IN DECIEM.
BUT WITH THE MEDIORIC RISE CAME
SIGNS OF STRAIN.
>> FROM NOW ON I'M GOING TO
COMMUNICATE PERSONALLY WITH YOU.
>> Reporter: IN JANUARY TRUAXE
ANNOUNCED ON INSTAGRAM THAT HE
WAS PERSONALLY TAKING OVER ALL
OF THE COMPANY'S SOCIAL MEDIA
ACCOUNTS.
A MONTH LATER HE FIRED HIS
CO-C.E.O. AND BEST FRIEND.
THEN THE C.F.O. QUIT.
AND THEN HE FIRED HIS ENTIRE
U.S. P.R. TEAM AND THEN THINGS
STARTED TO GET WEIRD.
>> GUYS, YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T
SMOKE.
I DON'T DO DRUGS AND SHIT, AND
IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ASK.
BUT I DON'T SMOKE.
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I DON'T
SMOKE.
>> Reporter: TRUAXE STARTED
POSTING CONFUSING VIDEOS ON THE
CORPORATE ACCOUNT.
>> [indiscernible]
>> Reporter: IN SOME HE WAS
NEARLY
INCOHERENT.
>> I NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT...
[indiscernible]
>> Reporter: IN OTHERS HE'S
CONFRONTATIONAL.
>> PLEASE TELL THEM THAT I WILL
SUE THEM AND THIS WILL GO ON
INSTAGRAM FOR DECIEM IN LESS ONE
MINUTE UNLESS THEY BRING ME MY
LUGGAGE.
THIS WILL GO ON INSTAGRAM.
>> Reporter: AND EVEN
COMBATIVE.
MINUTE UNLESS THEY BRING ME MY
LUGGAGE.
THIS WILL GO ON INSTAGRAM.
>> Reporter: AND EVEN
COMBATIVE.
>> HI, EVERYONE.
I'M JUST REALLY ENJOYING READING
ALL OF THE IDIOTS THAT WRITE
POSTS ON INSTAGRAM AND ALL OF
THE
SLOPPY JOURNALISTS THAT KEEP
SAYING THAT I HAVE MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES.
>> Reporter: THERE WAS NO REAL
CONTEXT OR EXPLANATION.
SOME OF THE POSTS WERE QUICKLY
TAKEN DOWN.
BUT NOT BEFORE WORRIED FANS
STARTED TO COMMENT ON THE VIDEOS
AND THE BEAUTY PRESS WAS
FOLLOWING IT ALL.
>> A LOT OF COMMENTERS HAVE SAID
THAT BRANDON, YOU HAVE A MENTAL
ILLNESS.
BRANDON, ARE YOU ON DRUGS?
>> I DON'T HAVE MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES.
YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BEFORE I
WAS AT RISK.
>> HE STARTED LASHING OUT AND
RESPONDING TO COMMENTERS AND HE
WOULD SWEAR AT THEM AND HE WOULD
INSULT THEM.
>> Reporter: AND THREATEN
THEM.
>> I'M GOING TO LOOK AT A LION
AND SMILE AT HIM.
IF I SEE A VULTURE YOU'RE GOING
TO GET SUED.
>> Reporter: THE APPARENT
SOCIAL MEDIA MELTDOWN HIT A
BOILING POINT EVEN WHEN PEOPLE
INSIDE OF DECIEM BEGAN TO WONDER
ABOUT DRUG USE OR MENTAL
ILINESS.
-- ILLNESS.
SO I ASKED TRUAXE WHAT WAS GOING
ON.
WE HAVE SPOKE TONE A COUPLE
PEOPLE AND SOME OF THEM SAID
THEY WERE A LITTLE BIT
WORRIED ABOUT YOU BECAUSE IN
SOME OF THESE POSTS YOU ARE
SAYING THAT THEY'RE OUT TO GET
ME, PEOPLE, AND I'M IN TROUBLE
AND I
NEED HELP.
>> SOME I SAID THAT I WAS THE
C.I.A. AND BEFORE THAT I SAID
THAT I WAS MAKING A MOVIE.
SO THOSE PEOPLE, IF THEY DON'T
DRINK ALCOHOL THEY SHOULD ORDER
A SHOT AND RELAX.
WE'RE A BEAUTY BUSINESS.
IF I WAS UNSAFE, I WOULDN'T GO
ON INSTAGRAM AND SAY PLEASE COME
SAVE ME.
>> HE IS GETTING ATTENTION AND
PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER HIM.
AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST
CHALLENGES IN MARKETING IS TO
SORT OF GET NOTICED.
>> Reporter: PROFESSOR DAVID
SOBERMAN SAID THAT IT COULD BE A
WELL-PLANNED MARKETING CAMPAIGN
AND ALL OF THIS WEIRDNESS MIGHT
JUST BE A RUSE.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT
IT'S COMPLETELY ORCHESTRATED OR
WHETHER IT'S REALITY.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S SOMEWHERE
IN BETWEEN, BUT I THINK THAT
THERE'S MORE THOUGHT TO IT THAN
MAYBE WE'RE GIVING CREDIT.
>> Reporter: IF IT WAS
ORCHESTRATED IT WORKED ON AT
LEAST ONE LEVEL.
FANS STARTED TO WORRY THAT THEIR
SKINCARE SUPPLY WAS GOING TO DRY
UP.
>> SHOPPERS WERE REALLY BUYING
LIKE I'M GOING TO BUY FIVE
BOTTLES OF MY FAVOURITE PRODUCT
BECAUSE WHAT IF IT GOES UNDER.
>> Reporter: ADDING TO THE
WORRIES THAT THE COMPANY MIGHT
GO UNDER WAS THIS INSTAGRAM
POST.
>> I FOUND SOME REALLY
BAD WRONGDOINGS BY SOME OF OUR
SHAREHOLDERS.
AND SOME OF THE
POSTS THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE
PAST, THAT MAY HAVE SEEMED
STRANGE, RELATE TO THAT.
>> Reporter: BUT HE WOULDN'T
BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT JUST WHAT
HE MEANT.
>> IF YOU GO DOWN IN THE
BASEMENT AND YOU HEAR RATS, THE
BEST NEWS THAT CAN HAPPEN IS
THAT IF SOMEBODY COMES AND
CHECKS AND THERE WAS NO RAT.
THE WORST NEWS THAT CAN HAPPEN
IS MAYBE YOU HAVE RATS ALL OVER
THE ROOF.
BUT I NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF IT.
>> Reporter: IT'S A LINGERING
CLOUD OVER THE COMPANY BUT
TRUAXE TURNS THAT TO HIS
ADVANTAGE.
>> THAT PUBLICITY THAT YOU
EXPLAINED IS ACTUALLY BETTER
THAN THE PUBLICITY.
BECAUSE GOOD PUBLICITY YOU
ALWAYS QUESTION.
>> Reporter: DECIEM FAN
LILLIANA KIA
SAYS THAT SHE'S FOLLOWED SOME OF
THE SOAP OPERA-LIKE SAGA BUT FOR
HER THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, WHEN
WILL SHE GET THE LATEST HIT
PRODUCT FROM HER FAVOURITE
SKINCARE COMPANY?
>> THEY HAVE A MATTE SUNSCREEN I
THINK THAT I HAVE BEEN DYING TO
TRY AND I CAN'T GET MY HANDS ON
IT.
>> Reporter: IT SEEMS THAT
THERE'S A WAITING LIST AND MAYBE
NOW WE KNOW WHY.
AARON SALTZMAN, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Andrew: OKAY.
AND SWITCHING GEARS BEFORE WE
HEAD TO COMMERCIAL BREAK, WITH
ALL OF THE ONGOING CONTROVERSY
OVER THE U.S. IMMIGRATION POLICY
WE HAVE A NOTE TONIGHT ABOUT A
PHOTOJOURNALIST WHO ARTICULATED
THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ISSUE
ALMOST TWO DECADES AGO.
REMEMBER THIS PHOTO?
IT SHOWS 6-YEAR-OLD -- A
6-YEAR-OLD CUBAN BOY ELIAN
GONZALEZ REACTING TO AN ARMED
U.S. IMMIGRATION OFFICER.
THAT MOMENT IN TIME STRUCK A
CHORD AROUND THE
WORLD AND IT WON ALAN DIAZ A
PULITZER PRIZE.
WELL, DIAZ DIED TODAY AT AGE 71.
SO HERE'S A LOOK BACK AT THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT PHOTO AND
THE ELIAN GONZALEZ SAGA.
LIKE SO MANY OTHER CHILDREN,
ELIAN GONZALEZ WAS BROUGHT TO
THE
U.S. BY PARENTS DESPERATE TO
GIVE HIM A BETTER LIFE.
HE WAS FOUND CLINGING TO AN
INTERTUBE OFF THE FLORIDA COAST.
HIS MOTHER HAD DROWNED.
ELIAN WAS RELEASED INTO THE
CUSTODY OF RELATIVES ALREADY
THERE AND THAT SPARKED A COMPLEX
AND HIGH-PROFILE CUSTODY BATTLE
INVOLVING HIS FATHER, WHO WANTED
HIM RETURNED TO CUBA, AND HIS
EXTENDED FAMILY IN THE U.S. WHO
DID NOT, AND THE GOVERNMENTS OF
BOTH COUNTRIES.
ENTER PHOTOJOURNALIST ALAN DIAZ
WHO BEFRIENDED THE GONZALEZ
FAMILY IN MIAMI.
HE STARTED DOCUMENTING THEIR
EXPERIENCE, DESPITE THEIR TERROR
AT THE POSSIBILITY OF A RAID BY
IMMIGRATION OFFICERS WHICH, OF
COURSE, HAPPENED.
HENCE THIS NOW FAMOUS PHOTO.
IN THE END ELIAN WAS RETURNED TO
HIS FATHER IN CUBA DESPITE THE
EF
>> Adrienne: IF YOU FOLLOW
SOCCER, YOU KNOW ENGLAND IS ONE
STEP CLOSER IN ITS QUEST FOR THE
WORLD CUP.
IT BEAT COLOMBIA 4-3 ON
PENALTIES AFTER THE GAME ENDED
IN A 1-1 DIE.
ENGLAND LAST MADE A QUARTERFINAL
AT THE 2012 EUROS, BUT LAST
TIME, THE ONLY TIME IT EVER WON
A WORLD CUP, WAS 1966, SO YOU
CAN IMAGINE TODAY'S WIN SENT
BRITISH FANS INTO A BIT OF A
FRENZY, WHICH IS WHY, THIS IS
OUR "MOMENT OF THE DAY."
>> WE'RE NOW IN A SITUATION
WHERE IF ENGLAND SCORES THIS
GOAL -- WHICH I WOULD LOVE TO
SHOW YOU, DO YOU DON'T HAVE THE
RIGHTS.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
AND I THINK THAT MEANS ENGLAND
-- OK.
ENGLAND IS THROUGH.
GENERAL PANDAMONIUM AND THAT'S
JUST HERE IN THE BBC NEWSROOM.
>> Adrienne: ONLY IT WASN'T JUST
IN THE NEWSROOM.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
THIS RAPPER STOPPED MID-SHOW TO
CELEBRATE WITH FANS.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
CRICKET PLAYERS LEAPT INTO EACH
OTHER'S ARMS.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE WERE
SCENES LIKE THESE.
>> YES!
YES!
>> Adrienne: FANS RIDING BUSES.
>> OK.
>> Adrienne: FANS MOBBING BUSES.
FANS GENERALLY LOSING THEIR
MINDS, AS THEY WATCHED THEIR
BELOVED TEAM GET ONE STEP CLOSER
TO THE TITLE THEY COVETED FOR
MORE THAN 50 YEARS.
OK, SO HERE'S WHAT MAKES THIS
EVEN MORE SPECIAL.
SIX TOURNAMENTS IN 22 YEARS,
ALWAYS LOST IN A SHOOTOUT.
THE CURSE HAS BEEN CRUSHED.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Andrew: SO THE NEXT STEP IN
THE SAGA, THE WAY IT WILL
UNFOLD, IS SWEDEN BEAT
SWITZERLAND EARLIER, SO ENGLAND
PLAYS SWITZERLAND, SO MAIN WE'LL
SEE THESE THINGS REPEAT.
>> Rosemary: LI WILL SEE THEM
REPEAT IN MY OWN NEWSROOM.
I SAW WHY EVERYONE WAS PACING
AROUND CLOSE TO HEART ATTACK AND
THEN THEY EXPLAINED IT TO ME.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR
TUESDAY, JULY 3rd.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Andrew: GOOD NIGHT.
>> Adrienne: GOOD NIGHT.
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