>> Ian: I'M IAN HANOMANSING.
WE'RE FOLLOWING MANY STORIES
TONIGHT, INCLUDING THAT SHOOTING
IN FREDERICTON.
WE WANT TO START WITH A STORY
SOUTH OF HERE IN WASHINGTON
STATE, WHERE A HORIZON PLANE WAS
ESSENTIALLY STOLEN BY AN
EMPLOYEE AT SEA-TAC AIRPORT.
THE MALE IS DESCRIBED BY THE
SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS SUICIDAL.
NO PASSENGERS WERE ON BOARD.
THERE WERE TWO MILITARY F-15s
CHASING THAT PLANE.
THEY DIDN'T SHOOT IT DOWN, BUT
IT DID EVENTUALLY CRASH.
WE'RE WORKING ON THE STORY.
WE'LL HAVE A LIVE UPDATE FOR YOU
IN ABOUT 25 MINUTES TIME.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE
STORY THROUGH THE HOUR.
LET'S GO TO ADRIENNE NOW IN
FREDERICTON.
(*)
>> Adrienne: A COMMUNITY GATHERS
IN THE FACE OF DEVASTATING
GRIEF.
THIS IS FREDERICTON TONIGHT, AND
A VIGIL TO REMEMBER FOUR PEOPLE
SHOT AND KILLED JUST THIS
MORNING.
AMONG THEM, TWO POLICE OFFICERS.
THAT LOSS OF OFFICERS GUNNED
DOWN ON DUTY IS A TRAGEDY THIS
PROVINCE HAS SEEN BEFORE.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO EXPLORE
THE DANGERS POLICE FACE IN THEIR
WORK, LIVES CUT TOO SHORT, AND
ANOTHER CANADIAN NEIGHBOURHOOD
REELING FROM GUN VIOLENCE.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
>> Adrienne: AND THAT'S THE
FREDERICTON APARTMENT COMPLEX
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'S SHELL CASINGS STILL ON
THE GROUND THIS EVENING.
IT REMAINS AN ACTIVE CRIME SCENE
TONIGHT.
THIS NEIGHBOURHOOD, THIS CITY,
THEY'RE ALL UNITED IN GRIEF,
REMEMBRANCE AND A FAIR AMOUNT OF
CONFUSION.
MANY COMMUNITY EVENTS LIKE AN
EVENING BASEBALL GAME AND
FUNDRAISER HAVE BEEN CANCELLED
OR POSTPONED OUT OF RESPECT.
THIS HAS BECOME A NIGHT OF
REFLECTION, AFTER A BEAUTIFUL
DAY TURNED VERY DARK.
SHORTLY AFTER 7:00, THE CRACK OF
GUNFIRE SHATTERED THE QUIET OF
THIS PLACE, BLOWING HOLES IN
WINDOWS, SENDING PEOPLE
SCRAMBLING FOR COVER.
AN HOUR LATER, FOUR PEOPLE ARE
DEAD.
TWO CIVILIANS AND TWO POLICE
OFFICERS, SWORN TO PROTECT THEM.
TONIGHT, WE'RE TRYING TO DIG
INTO ALL THE ANGLES ON THE
STORY.
THE INVESTIGATION, THE
COMMUNITY, AND THE MANY, MANY
QUESTIONS THAT REMAIN.
AND WE BEGIN OUR COVERAGE WITH
WHAT WE KNOW, OF COURSE, ABOUT
THE VICTIMS, INCLUDING THOSE
DEDICATED POLICE OFFICERS
COMMITTED TO FRONTLINE PUBLIC
SERVICE AND ALL THE RISK THAT
COMES WITH IT.
>> FOUR PEOPLE WERE KILLED
INCLUDING TWO FREDERICTON POLICE
OFFICERS.
>> Adrienne: 45-YEAR-OLD
LAWRENCE ROBB COSTELLO, WAS A
20-YEAR VETERAN THAT WORKED ON
ALL KINDS OF CASES -- MISSING
PERSONS, ROBBERIES, EXTORTION.
AT ONE TIME, HE WAS A KEY MEMBER
OF THE RCMP'S INTERNET CHILD
EXPLOITATION UNIT.
COSTELLO POSTED ON-LINE
MEMORIALS TO OTHER OFFICERS
KILLED ON DUTY, INCLUDING THOSE
KILLED IN MONCTON IN 2014.
HE LEAVES BEHIND A PARTNER AND
FOUR CHILDREN.
43-YEAR-OLD SARA MAE BURNS
JOINED THE FORCE JUST TWO YEARS
AGO.
SHE HELPED TO RAISE MONEY FOR
LIBERTY LANE, AN ORGANISATION
THAT PROVIDES HOUSING FOR
VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC ABUSE.
SHE WAS MARRIED AND HAD THREE
KIDS.
WE KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE
OTHER TWO VICTIMS IN THIS
TRAGEDY, A MAN AND A WOMAN.
HE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS
DONNIE ROBICHAUD.
TONIGHT, THERE ARE SO MANY OF
THOSE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
SUSPECT, THE GUN, THE MOTIVE.
KAYLA HOUNSELL IS HERE NOW WITH
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE
INVESTIGATION.
>> Reporter: THIS NORTH
FREDERICTON NEIGHBOURHOOD WAS
QUIET UNTIL JUST AFTER 7:00 WHEN
POLICE RESPONDED TO GUNFIRE AT
AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
>> I HEARD SOMEBODY SCREAM.
AFTER THE SECOND ONE, THERE WAS
NO MORE SOUND.
AND THEN NOT TOO LONG AFTER
THAT, MORE SHOTS STARTED RINGING
OUT.
>> Reporter: OFFICERS ROBB
COSTELLO AND SARA BURNS WERE
FIRST ON THE SCENE.
ABOUT AN HOUR LATER, THEY AND
TWO OTHER PEOPLE WERE DEAD.
>> THIS IS THE WORST MOMENT FOR
ANY CHIEF OF POLICE IN ANY
POLICE AGENCY TO HAVE TO DELIVER
THIS NEWS.
>> Reporter: NOW WHILE A CITY
GRIEVES, INVESTIGATORS TRY TO
PIECE TOGETHER WHAT HAPPENED
SHARING WHAT THEY KNOW THIS
AFTERNOON.
>> AROUND 9:30, FREDERICTON
POLICE FORCE ENTERED AN
APARTMENT AND ARRESTED A
48-YEAR-OLD MAN FROM
FREDERICTON.
HE WAS TAKEN TO DR. EVERETT
CHALMERS HOSPITAL.
HE IS UNDERGOING TREATMENT FOR
SERIOUS INJURIES.
>> Reporter: AND THAT'S ABOUT
ALL THEY'VE SAID.
>> THE REST IS PART OF THE
INVESTIGATION.
I CAN'T GO TOO DEEP ON IT.
>> Reporter: NO DETAILS ON WHO
THE ALLEGED SHOOTER IS.
>> NO, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S AN
ONGOING INVESTIGATION.
>> Reporter: OR THE WEAPON USED.
>> THE INVESTIGATION IS
CONTINUING TO DETERMINE EXACTLY
WHAT HAPPENED.
>> Reporter: THE RCMP HAVE TAKEN
OVER FROM FREDERICTON POLICE.
THEY, TOO, HAD LITTLE TO OFFER
IN THE WAY OF DETAILS.
THEIR FOCUS NOW -- GATHERING AS
MUCH EVIDENCE AND INFORMATION AS
POSSIBLE FROM THE SCENE AND FROM
THE PUBLIC.
>> I'M STILL LOST FOR WORDS.
I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT TO THINK
AFTER SEEING WHAT I SAW.
IT'S TRAUMATIZING, VERY
TRAUMATIZING.
>> Adrienne: KAYLA, TO
UNDERSCORE YOUR POINT, PEOPLE
ARE STILL NOT BEING ALLOWED BACK
HOME.
>> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT,
ADRIENNE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS REMAINS
VERY MUCH AN ACTIVE
INVESTIGATION TONIGHT.
POLICE ARE ACTUALLY ASKING
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SUBMIT
ANY VIDEO OR PHOTOS TO HELP THEM
PIECE TOGETHER WHAT HAPPENED
HERE.
WHILE THIS INVESTIGATION
CONTINUES, THIS STRETCH OF ROAD
THAT WE'RE ON HERE REMAINS
CLOSED, WHICH MEANS 50 PEOPLE
WHO LIVE HERE CANNOT GO HOME
TONIGHT.
SO CITY OFFICIALS AND MEMBERS OF
THE RED CROSS HAVE FOUND PLACES
FOR THEM TO STAY, AT LEAST FOR
NOW.
IT'S NOT CLEAR IF THEY CAN GO
HOME.
AS THEY CONTINUE THIS WORK,
POLICE ARE ASKING FOR PATIENCE.
ADRIENNE, THEY'RE ALSO THANKING
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FOR THE
OUTPOURING OF LOVE AND SUPPORT
THEY'VE SEEN.
JUST TONIGHT SAYING THAT THEY
FEEL IT AND THEY APPRECIATE IT.
>> Adrienne: NO DOUBT, PEOPLE
ARE INCREDIBLY GRACIOUS HERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS MAYHEM HITS HARD IN A CITY
LIKE FREDERICTON.
IT'S A PROVINCIAL CAPITAL AND
ALSO CLOSE KNIT AND PROUD OF ITS
SMALL-TOWN FEEL.
LET'S TAKE A SECOND TO GET OUR
BEARINGS.
THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS SOUTH OF
THE ST. JOHN RIVER.
SOUTH OF THERE, YOU WILL FIND
THE REGIONAL HOSPITAL WHERE THE
VICTIMS WERE TAKEN, BUT WE'RE
NORTH OF THE RIVER IN WHAT IS
SEEN AS A QUIETER PART OF TOWN.
BROOKSIDE DRIVE IS A VERY LONG
STREET THAT CUTS THROUGH THIS
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S NOW REALLY THE FOCUS AREA
OF THE TRAGEDY THAT HAS THE CITY
REELING.
HERE'S THE CBC'S HARRY FORESTELL
WITH THE IMPACT ON THE
COMMUNITY.
(*)
>> Reporter: IN A PLACE LIKE
FREDERICTON, PEOPLE WEAR THEIR
HEARTS ON THEIR SLEEVES AND
TONIGHT, MANY OF THE HEARTS ARE
BREAKING.
AT A VIGIL NOT FAR FROM THE
SCENE OF THE SHOOTING, RESIDENTS
GATHERED TO COMFORT AND BE
COMFORTED, STRUGGLING TO
COMPREHEND THE HORROR THAT
UNFOLDED JUST HOURS AGO.
>> IT'S QUITE DISTURBING, AND
THE POOR PEOPLE THAT WERE SHOT.
>> IT'S PRETTY SHOCKING.
YOU DON'T HEAR TOO MUCH ABOUT
THIS STUFF HERE IN FREDERICTON.
>> NO.
THIS IS A QUIET TOWN.
NOTHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS HERE.
IT'S QUITE SHOCKING, ACTUALLY.
>> Reporter: AT THE CITY'S MAIN
HOSPITAL, WHERE A STILL UNKNOWN
NUMBER OF VICTIMS ARE BEING
TREATED FOR INJURIES, UNIFORMED
POLICE AND THEIR SUPPORTERS
FORMED AN HONOUR GUARD.
>> DURING THIS MOST DIFFICULT
TIME IN THIS DARK TIME, I CAN
SAY WITH CERTAINTY, THAT THE
CITIZENS OF FREDERICTON WERE
BEING EXCEPTIONALLY WELL SERVED
AND THAT THOSE THAT WERE KILLED
THIS MORNING WERE TAKEN VERY
GOOD CARE OF AND I COULDN'T BE
PROUDER OF THE MEN AND WOMEN
THAT SERVE THE CITY AND I WANT
TO REASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT
WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO IN THE
DAYS AND MONTHS AND YEARS AHEAD.
>> Reporter: OUTSIDE POLICE
HEADQUARTERS, A GROWING TRIBUTE
OF FLOWERS AND MESSAGES OF
SUPPORT, MEANT TO HEAL A GAPING
WOUND.
>> WE WERE WATCHING THE EVENTS
AS THEY UNFOLDED AND OUR HEARTS
ARE BROKEN.
>> WE WANTED TO PAY OUR
RESPECTS.
THIS IS AWFUL.
THINGS LIKE THIS DON'T HAPPEN IN
FREDERICTON.
>> Reporter: BUT THEY DO.
AND TODAY WITH A CITY IN SHOCK,
MAYOR MIKE O'BRIEN CALLED FOR
UNITY IN THE FACE OF
OVERWHELMING TRAGEDY.
>> IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE GRIEVE
TOGETHER, BUT WE'LL HEAL
TOGETHER AS WELL.
TODAY WE SAW SOMETHING TRAGIC.
IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE'LL SEE
THE BEST OF OUR COMMUNITY COME
FORWARD.
WE ALWAYS DO.
>> Adrienne: HARRY, THERE ARE
ECHOS HERE OF MONCTON.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO TALK ABOUT
FREDERICTON WITHOUT TALKING
ABOUT MONCTON.
>> Reporter: WITHOUT REFERENCE
TO THAT TERRIBLE TRAGEDY.
HOW COULD IT NOT BE IN THE BACK
OF PEOPLE'S MINDS?
FOUR YEARS AGO IN MONCTON, FIVE
RCMP OFFICERS SHOT, THREE
KILLED, TWO WOUNDED.
IT WAS A TERRIBLE EVENT NOT JUST
FOR MONCTON, BUT FOR THE
PROVINCE AND THE ATLANTIC REGION
OF CANADA.
SO TODAY WHEN WE BEGAN REPORTING
ON THIS, THAT WAS THE DREAD,
THAT MAYBE THERE WERE MORE.
OF COURSE, THERE ARE STILL
PEOPLE INJURED IN HOSPITAL.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEIR
CONDITION IS.
WE'LL FIND OUT THAT IN THE
COMING DAYS.
YES, IN THE BACKS OF PEOPLE'S
MINDS, THE TERRIBLE TRAGEDY IN
MONCTON AND I THINK WE'LL SEE AN
OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT FROM THAT
CITY AND OUTPOURING OF GRIEF
HERE WHEN IT HITS HOME WHAT
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THROUGH WITH
THIS EXPERIENCE, ADRIENNE.
>> Adrienne: YOU, MY FRIEND,
HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT TODAY.
WE WATCHED YOU ALL DAY LONG.
SOME OF THE TERRIBLY POIGNANT
SCENES AT THE HOSPITAL OF POLICE
OFFICERS LINING AND SALUTING AND
STANDING AT ATTENTION WHEN THE
CHIEF ARRIVED.
WAITING TO ADDRESS HER AND
SUPPORTING EACH OTHER.
WHAT HAS STRUCK YOU ABOUT THIS
DAY?
>> Reporter: WHAT YOU REALISE IN
THE PROGRESS OF EVENTS THROUGH A
DAY LIKE THIS, EVEN AS A
REPORTER, WHAT STRIKES ME IS HOW
THIS IS A CITY WITH A HEART OF A
TOWN, A SMALL, INTIMATE PLACE.
NO MATTER HOW BIG IT GETS, YOU
REALISE THERE ARE VERY FEW
DEGREES OF SEPARATION BETWEEN
PEOPLE.
YOU TALK TO PEOPLE AND THEY SAY,
YEAH, I KNOW OF SOMEONE IN RCMP.
MY BROTHER-IN-LAW IS IN THE CITY
POLICE FORCE.
SO THIS IS CLOSE TO THEM, TOO
CLOSE TO HOME.
AND WHEN YOU SEE EVENTS LIKE THE
POLICE OFFICERS LINING UP IN
FRONT OF A HOSPITAL, IT'S VERY,
VERY EMOTIONAL.
PEOPLE FEEL THESE EVENTS HERE,
WHEREAS IN A LARGER CITY, THEY
MIGHT NOT.
BUT AS I SAY, FREDERICTON IS A
CITY WITH HEART OF A TOWN.
>> Adrienne: THIS IS A COUNTRY
OF NEIGHBOURHOODS, TOO, TOO MANY
NEIGHBOURHOODS GOING THROUGH
THIS.
THANK YOU, HARRY.
LET'S HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE
FROM SOMEONE WHO WAS IN THE
BUILDING RIGHT NEXT DOOR WHEN
THOSE SHOTS WERE FIRED.
JUSTIN MCLEAN.
HE'S 19.
HE'S OUR WITNESS.
>> I WAS SLEEPING IN THE
BASEMENT AND I HEARD GUNSHOTS.
I WOKE UP AND LOOKED OUTSIDE MY
WINDOW AND THERE'S A COP
STANDING THERE WITH A GUN.
I FIGURED, OK, SOMETHING'S GOING
ON.
I WENT AROUND MY BACK WINDOW AND
LOOKED OUT AND I SAW THREE
BODIES LAYING THERE.
I WAS LIKE, HOLY MOLY, WHAT IS
GOING ON?
AND THEN THEY PULLED UP WITH
THEIR ARMORED VEHICLE TO PUT THE
BODY INSIDE OF IT, TO GET HIM TO
SAFETY.
AND THEY COULDN'T LIFT HIM.
SO I WENT OUT TO TRY TO HELP
HIM, AND THE SHOOTER PROCEEDED
TO SHOOT AGAIN AND THEN THEY
THREW ME IN AND EVACUATED ME.
I'VE BEEN HERE EVER SINCE AT TIM
HORTONS.
>> Reporter: DID YOU SEE THE
SHOOTER?
>> I NEVER SAW THE SHOOTER.
I SAW THE BARREL OF THE GUN
POINTED OUT OF THE WINDOW.
THAT'S ALL I COULD SEE.
>> Adrienne: WHENEVER POLICE ARE
KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY, A
BLUE RIBBON IS USED TO HONOUR
THAT LOSS.
IT WAS IN FULL VIEW ON TWITTER
AS POLICE FORCES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY PAID TRIBUTE TO
FREDERICTON'S TWO FALLEN
OFFICERS AND AT POLICE
HEADQUARTERS AND GOVERNMENT
BUILDINGS, FLAGS ARE AT HALF
STAFF.
TODAY'S SHOOTING ILLUSTRATES HOW
DANGEROUS POLICING CAN BE.
THE CALL CAME IN AROUND A SHIFT
CHANGE.
THE TWO OFFICERS HAPPENED TO BE
IN THE STATION, JUMPED INTO A
CRUISER, AND WERE THE FIRST ON
THE SCENE.
CBC NEWS HAS BEEN LOOKING INTO
POLICE DEATHS ACROSS CANADA,
ANALYZING 40 YEARS WORTH OF
DATA.
AS KATIE NICHOLSON TELLS US, TO
SERVE AND PROTECT MEANS
CONSTANTLY FACING THE RISK.
>> Reporter: POLICING IS A RISKY
JOB.
THE SHOOTING IN FREDERICTON, A
STARK REMINDER OF THE DANGERS
MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM FACE ON
THE JOB.
WE ANALYZED THE DATA IN THE
NUMBERS OF OFFICERS KILLED ON
THE JOB IN CANADA SINCE 1975.
HERE'S WHAT WE FOUND.
SINCE 1975, 101 OFFICERS HAVE
BEEN MURDERED ON THE JOB IN
CANADA.
IN 84% OF THE CASES, THE OFFICER
WAS SHOT.
AND THE DATA TELLS US, THESE
FATAL ENCOUNTERS CATCH THE
OFFICERS BY SURPRISE.
MOST OF THE POLICE OFFICERS,
DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES.
ONLY 1/3 DREW THEIR WEAPONS OR
FIRED BEFORE THEY WERE KILLED.
AMONG THE MOST DANGEROUS CALLS
AN OFFICER CAN RESPOND TO --
ROBBERIES.
1/4 OF POLICE HOMICIDES OCCURRED
DURING ROBBERY CALLS.
ANOTHER, DOMESTIC ASSAULT CALLS,
THEY'RE THE SECOND MOST
DANGEROUS,
REPRESENTING 14 OF THE DEATHS IN
OUR DATABASE.
THE SHOOTING IN FREDERICTON
CLAIMED THE LIVES OF TWO
OFFICERS, ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.
SINCE 1975, ONLY FOUR FEMALE
POLICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN
MURDERED ON THE JOB.
AND MOST OF THE OFFICERS ARE NOT
VETERANS.
THE DATA TELLS US THEY HAVE
ROUGHLY EIGHT YEARS OF
EXPERIENCE UNDER THEIR BELTS.
THESE ARE THE FIRST FREDERICTON
POLICE OFFICERS TO BE MURDERED
ON THE JOB SINCE 1975.
OVERALL, IT'S THE LARGER POLICE
FORCES THAT SEE THE MOST OFFICER
DEATHS IN CANADA.
THE RCMP, WHOSE MEMBERS OFTEN GO
OUT ON SOLO CALLS, REPRESENT 30%
OF THE OFFICERS MURDERED ON DUTY
IN OUR ANALYSIS.
>> Adrienne: KATIE JOINS ME NOW.
HOW RARE ARE THESE POLICE
DEATHS?
>> Reporter: POLICING IS SAFER
THAN DECADES AGO.
IN THE '70s AND '80s, IT WAS NOT
UNCOMMON TO HAVE FOUR OR MORE
POLICE HOMICIDES A YEAR.
SINCE THE '90s, THERE IS ONE,
SOMETIMES TWO A YEAR, WITH A FEW
NOTABLE EXCEPTIONS WHERE WE SEE
DEADLY EVENTS LIKE THE MONCTON
DEATHS OR THE TRAGEDY IN ALBERTA
IN 2005.
IN THE U.S., ONE OFFICER IS
MURDERED PER WEEK.
EVEN ADJUSTING FOR POPULATION,
THERE ARE TWO TO THREE TIMES
MORE POLICE HOMICIDES IN THE
U.S. COMPARED TO CANADA, BUT
TRAGEDIES STILL STRIKE IN CANADA
AND THE NUMBERS ONLY TELL PART
OF THE STORY.
>> Adrienne: LISTEN, KATIE,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AS WE HAVE MENTIONED, THIS
DEADLY POLICE SHOOTING COMES
FOUR YEARS AFTER MONCTON.
SO THIS CITY, THIS PROVINCE,
COMING TO TERMS WITH IT AGAIN.
I SPOKE WITH THE PREMIER OF NEW
BRUNSWICK, BRIAN GALLANT, JUST A
SHORT TIME AGO.
PREMIER, THANKS FOR JOINING US.
WE'RE TERRIBLY SORRY TO BE
MEETING LIKE THIS.
I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LONG DAY AND
MEETING WITH PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY.
WHAT ARE THEY ASKING YOU FOR?
>> Premier Brian Gallant: THANKS
FOR HAVING ME.
PEOPLE ARE OFFERING CONDOLENCES,
OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THEY'RE
OFFERING THEM TO ME SO I CAN
PASS THEM ON TO ALL NEW
BRUNSWICKERS, TO THE FREDERICTON
CITY AND THE FREDERICTON POLICE
FORCE.
PEOPLE ARE ALSO ASKING HOW THIS
HAPPENED, WHY THIS HAPPENED?
PEOPLE WANT THE ANSWERS AND WANT
THEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT
WE ASK FOR THEIR PATIENCE SO WE
CAN ALLOW FOR THE AUTHORITIES TO
DO THE PROPER STEPS TO ALERT THE
RIGHT PEOPLE TO UNDERTAKE THEIR
INVESTIGATION AND PEOPLE ARE
ASKING HOW THE FREDERICTON
POLICE OFFICERS ARE DOING.
AND OBVIOUSLY, I THINK IT'S A
VERY DIFFICULT DAY FOR THEM TO
SAY THE LEAST.
IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE SENSELESS
TRAGEDY THAT THEY WENT THROUGH.
TO SEE THEIR COLLEAGUES FALL,
IT'S HORRENDOUS FOR ALL OF THEM.
>> Adrienne: AND NOW PEOPLE
CAN'T TACK ABOUT FREDERICTON
WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT MONCTON.
FOR A PROVINCE THIS SIZE TO LOSE
FIVE POLICE OFFICERS IN FOUR
YEARS, WHAT IS THE TANGIBLE
EFFECT?
>> Premier Brian Gallant: NO
DOUBT, TODAY'S SHOOTING WILL BE
COMPARED TO THE MONCTON
SHOOTING.
I THINK THE TWO EVENTS ARE
DIFFERENT, THOUGH.
THEY HAVE SIMILARITIES, BUT
THEY'RE DIFFERENT AND WE CANNOT
TREAT THEM EXACTLY THE SAME.
ONE THING THAT THERE IS NO DOUBT
IS A REMINDER TODAY AS IT WAS
FOUR YEARS AGO, IT'S A REMINDER
OF HOW IMPORTANT FIRST
RESPONDERS ARE AND HOW THEY
SACRIFICE SO MUCH FOR ALL OF US,
NOT ONLY SHOULD WE THINK OF THAT
TODAY ON A SOMBER AND TRAGIC
EVENT, BUT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT
THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE
YEAR WHEN PEOPLE PUT THEMSELVES
IN HARM'S WAY TO KEEP US SAFE AS
CANADIANS.
>> Adrienne: AND THAT IS ONE OF
THE THINGS PEOPLE ARE TALKING TO
US ABOUT AS WE ARRIVED.
ONE GENTLEMAN SAYING, WERE THEY
PROTECTED ENOUGH WHEN THEY WENT
IN THERE?
DID THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THEY
NEEDED?
THAT'S A QUESTION FROM PEOPLE
HERE.
WHAT IS THE QUESTION RATTLING
AROUND FOR YOU RIGHT NOW?
>> Premier Brian Gallant: WELL,
THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL
COME UP OVER THE NEXT WEEKS AND
MONTHS.
IT CAME UP DURING THE MONCTON
SHOOTINGS AS WELL AND PEOPLE
WERE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT IN
THE LAST YEAR.
THERE WILL BE A TIME FOR THOSE
CONVERSATIONS.
RIGHT NOW, WE WANT TO FOCUS ON
THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS.
THE COMMUNITY HERE, GREATER
COMMUNITY OF FREDERICTON, AND
ALL NEW BRUNSWICKERS THAT HAVE
GONE THROUGH A TRAGIC EVENT AND
HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO GET
THROUGH THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT
WE ABOUT THROUGH THE GRIEVING
PROCESS.
>> Adrienne: OK.
IT WILL BE A LONG NIGHT.
THANK YOU, PREMIER.
>> Premier Brian Gallant: THANK
YOU.
>> Adrienne: AS THE COUNTRY
GRAPPLES WITH ANOTHER DEADLY
SHOOTING, PEOPLE IN TORONTO ARE
HONORING THE VICTIMS OF LAST
MONTH'S FATAL ATTACK ON THE
DANFORTH.
>> Ian: WELL, ADRIENNE, IT'S
BEEN NEARLY THREE WEEKS SINCE
18-YEAR-OLD REESE FALLON AND
10-YEAR-OLD JULIANNA KOZIS WERE
GUNNED DOWN IN ONE OF TORONTO'S
MOST VIBRANT NEIGHBOURHOODS.
ON THE SAME STREETS, THE TASTE
OF THE DANFORTH FOOD FESTIVAL IS
GETTING UNDER WAY.
THE PRIME MINISTER ADDRESSED THE
TRAGEDY.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: AS WE REMEMBER THE
TERRIBLE TRAGEDY THAT TRUCK TWO
WEEKS AGO, THE LOSS OF LIFE, THE
WAY THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER,
THERE IS A GREED TOWN A FEW
HOURS EAST OF HERE, OUR FRIENDS
IN FREDERICTON, WHO ARE GOING
THROUGH A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT
NIGHT.
IF WE COULD ALL SEND THEM OUR
BEST LOVE AND BEST SUPPORT FOR
OUR FALLEN OFFICERS THAT ARE
THERE PROTECTING US AND PEOPLE
WHO DIED IN A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY.
>> Ian: TODAY'S SHOOTING HITTING
CLOSE TO HOME IN THIS TORONTO
NEIGHBOURHOOD.
IT'S THE FESTIVAL'S 25TH
ANNIVERSARY.
PART OF THE OPENING CEREMONY
TONIGHT CLEARLY FELT THE IMPACT
OF LAST MONTH'S ATTACK.
A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS HELD IN
TRIBUTE TO THE LIVES LOST ON
JULY 22.
TIME WAS SET ASIDE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE HEROIC EFFORTS
OF FIRST RESPONDERS AND MANY
PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD THAT
RUSHED TO HELP MORE THAN A DOZEN
VICTIMS.
>> A LOT MORE PEOPLE WILL COME
JUST TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE
TASTE OF DANFORTH, FOR THE
COMMUNITY.
>> AS A CITY, WE MOVE FORWARD
AND WE CELEBRATE OUR CULTURE
HERE AND OUR DIFFERENT CULTURES.
>> Ian: A BENEFIT CONCERT IS
BEING HELD TOMORROW NIGHT WITH
PROCEEDS GOING TO
#TORONTOSTRONG.
AND SOME SURVIVORS OF LAST
MONTH'S SHOOTING ARE EXPECTED TO
ATTEND THE FESTIVAL.
PEOPLE HERE ARE DETERMINED, THEY
SAY, TO NOT ALLOW A SINGULAR ACT
OF VIOLENCE TO DEFINE THEIR
NEIGHBOURHOOD.
FOR MANY IN GREEKTOWN, TASTE OF
THE DANFORTH IS PART OF THAT
NORMALCY.
AS FOR RESTAURANT OWNERS,
TONIGHT IS ALL ABOUT BRINGING
PEOPLE BACK TO THE NEIGHBOURHOOD
AND SHOWING THAT TORONTO IS,
INDEED, A SAFE PLACE.
WE SPOKE WITH THREE OF THEM AS
THEY PREPARED FOR ONE OF THE
CITY'S BIGGEST STREET FESTIVALS.
>> WE SET UP AROUND 9:00.
WE COME OUT HERE AND SET UP
EVERYTHING.
BY 5:00, BRING THE MEAT OUTSIDE.
AND 6:00, START SELLING IT ON
THE STREET.
>> WE WERE ON THE OUTSIDE AS THE
TRAFFIC STOPPED.
ALMOST THERE.
PUT IT ON AND START COOKING.
>> STARTED WITH SHUCKING CORN
AND SKEWERING SOME LAST
SLOVAKIS, THOUGH WE'VE BEEN
DOING THAT FOR A FEW DAYS NOW.
NOW WE JUST FIRED UP THE GRILLS.
NOW WE WAIT FOR THE PEOPLE TO
COME.
>> I WAS HERE THAT NIGHT, YES.
ORIGINALLY, HE LOOKED LIKE A
NORMAL PERSON WALKING.
I WAS THINKING, THERE WAS
NOTHING GOING ON.
AND THEN SUDDENLY, HE PULLS A
GUN AND WAS SHOOTING STRAIGHT
DOWN TO THE AREA.
>> YOU WANT TO COVER YOURSELF.
YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
AND LOOK AROUND AND SEE IF
EVERYTHING IS OK.
AND IF YOU ARE DEALING IN A
PLACE LIKE HAVING A RESTAURANT,
YOU HAVE TO BE SURE YOUR CLIENTS
ARE OK.
>> ONE OF MY WAITRESSES CAME
OUTSIDE TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING
ON.
AND SHE STARTED SCREAMING.
AND WE GOT ALL THE CUSTOMERS AND
STARTED YELLING, WHATEVER, AND
EVERYONE STARTED TO RUN TO THE
BACK AND WE SENT EVERYONE TO THE
BASEMENT, WHICH WE FELT WAS THE
SAFEST PLACE FOR THEM AS FAR AS
WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
THAT WAS IT.
WE WAITED IT OUT.
>> WE WERE LUCKY, BECAUSE WE
WERE CLOSED THAT NIGHT.
WE KNOW A LAST THE BUSINESSES
AROUND.
WE ALL GREW UP IN THIS
NEIGHBOURHOOD.
FOR US, IT WAS VERY SHOCKING AND
SURREAL.
>> I CONTINUE TO OPEN MY PATIO
AND WORKING HERE.
I DON'T PERSONALLY FEEL
THREATENED OR AFRAID.
>> WE CAN'T LIVE IN A BUBBLE, SO
COME OUT, ENJOY YOURSELF.
THE CITY HAS PROVIDED POLICE AND
A BUNCH OF THINGS TO DO THEIR
BEST TO PROTECT US.
I THINK IT WAS A ONE-TIME EVENT.
DANFORTH REMAINS SAFE.
IT REMAINS STRONG.
COME ON DOWN.
THERE'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
IT WILL BE SAFE.
A LOT OF POLICE ARE OUT.
IT WILL BE A GOOD TIME.
>> Ian: WE ARE LIVE HERE IN THE
VANCOUVER NEWSROOM.
THE LATE OF THE ON THE BIZARRE
STORY BREAKING JUST SOUTH OF
HERE NEAR SEATTLE.
AN EMPTY PASSENGER PLANE STOLEN
BY A SUICIDAL WORKER AT SEATAC
AIRPORT.
WANT IT SHOW YOU SOME VIDEO HERE
OF THE HORIZON AIRLINE Q400
THE PLANE WAS EVENTUALLY
FOLLOWED BY F-15 FIGHTER JETS.
AN EYEWITNESS, IRVINGTON
BILLSWORTH, WAS IN WASHINGTON
STATE.
HE TOLD US THAT HE SAW THE PLANE
SECONDS BEFORE IT CRASHED.
>> I SAW THE PLANE FLYING LOW.
MAYBE HE JUST LEFT THE AIRPORT.
NO.
HE'S WAY TOO LOW.
AND JETS WERE FOLLOWING THE
PLANE.
I WALKED BEHIND A TREE AND,
BOOM, IT HIT AN ISLAND.
>> Ian: THE PIERCE COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SAID THAT
THEY DID NOT SHOOT DOWN THE
PLANE.
OUR NEXT LIVE UPDATE WILL BE
HERE ON "THE NATIONAL" IN ABOUT
20 MINUTES.
>> Adrienne: WE HAVE MUCH MORE
SPECIAL COVERAGE HERE IN
FREDERICTON.
AS THE CITY GATHERS, SO MANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
TODAY AND WHY AND HOW.
WE'LL PIECE TOGETHER HOW THE
MOMENT UNFOLDED MOMENT BY
MOMENT.
>> Ian: BUT FIRST, WE'LL TAKE TO
YOU CHARLOTTESVILLE, AS THE CITY
BRACES FOR AN ANNIVERSARY, A
YEAR AFTER A RALLY TURNED
DEADLY.
>> I HATE TO ADMIT THIS, BUT WE>> Ian: THE RE'S A SENSE OF
UNEASE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE,
VIRGINIA, TONIGHT AS THEY
PREPARE TO MARK THE ANNIVERSARY
OF LAST YEAR'S VIOLENT RALLY BY
WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
EXTRA POLICE ARE ON PATROL AND
THE CITY IN LOCKDOWN.
A YEAR AGO SUNDAY, HUNDREDS OF
FAR RIGHT DEMONSTRATORS GATHERED
IN CHARLOTTESVILLE CARRYING
TORCHES SHOUTING RACIST AND
ANTI-SEMITIC SLOGANS
ONE COUNTER PROTESTER WAS KILLED
WHEN THE DEMONSTRATION TURNED
VIOLENT.
FAR RIGHT GROUPS INTEND TO
GATHER AGAIN, THIS TIME IN THE
U.S. CAPITAL, BUT AS THOMAS
DAIGLE REPORTS, CHARLOTTESVILLE
IS STILL ON EDGE.
>> Reporter: REMINDERS OF
HISTORY FOR SOME.
SYMBOLS OF OPPRESSION FOR
OTHERS.
YES, THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS
STILL STAND.
WITH THEIR MUTED EXPRESSIONS,
THEY ACTED AS A FOCAL POINT OF
THE ANGER THAT LED TO THE CHAOS
A YEAR AGO.
NOW THEY SPEAK TO THE CITY'S
LINGERING UNEASE.
>> IF WE CAN COME UP WITH USABLE
SOLUTIONS, THEN WE'LL NEVER
REALLY MOVE FORWARD.
>> Reporter: A SIGN
CHARLOTTESVILLE IS STILL
GRIEVING.
WORDS AND FLOWERS IN MEMORY OF
HEATHER HEYER, THE COUNTER
PROTESTER RUN DOWN A YEAR AGO,
ON THE STREET THAT BEARS HER
NAME.
AS THE ANNIVERSARY OF HEYER'S
DEATH APPROACHES, THE MEMORIAL
GROWS AND ALLIES WORRY ABOUT
WHAT'S TO COME.
>> I HAVE GOTTEN THREATS ALMOST
CONSTANTLY, AT LEAST THREE TIMES
A WEEK.
>> Reporter: WHITE SUPREMACISTS
CANCELLED PLANS FOR A RALLY BUT
POLICE ARE BRACING IN CASE THERE
IS STILL TROUBLE.
CHARLOTTESVILLE IS UNDER STATE
OF EMERGENCY THIS WEEKEND.
NO PARKING SIGNS ARE ALREADY UP.
NO VEHICLE IS BEING ALLOWED INTO
THE DOWNTOWN CORE.
POLICE WILL BE MONITORING
EVERYONE COMING IN AND OUT.
WEAPONS ARE BANNED -- EVERYTHING
FROM BATS, KNIVES, PAINTBALL
GUNS, EVERYTHING BUT REAL GUNS.
WITH THE DOWNTOWN AROUND IT
SHUT, THIS FLOWER SHOP WILL BE
OPEN SUNDAY.
THE OWNER SEES IT AS AN ACT OF
DEFIANCE.
>> SOMETHING HORRIBLE HAPPENED
HERE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN
AWAY AND CLOSE OUR SHOPS.
I'M GOING TO BE OPEN AND I'M
GOING TO GIVE OUT FREE FLOWERS.
>> Reporter: ACROSS TOWN, THE
UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA SAW THE
INFAMOUS RALLY THAT STARTED IT
ALL.
WITH TIKI TORCHES LIGHTING THE
STATUE OF SCHOOL FOUNDER THOMAS
JEFFERSON.
THIS TIME, BARRICADES FORM A
MAZE ON CAMPUS.
THERE IS NO GETTING CLOSE TO
THAT STATUE, A WAY TO PREVENT
THE MAYHEM WITNESSED BY
PROFESSOR LARRY SABATO.
>> HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF
YOUNG MEN PRAISING ADOLF HITLER
AND SAYING THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS
THINGS.
>> Reporter: THE MEMORIES STILL
VIVID.
>> I HATE TO EVEN ADMIT THIS,
BUT WE TOOK THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
STUDENTS AND JEWISH STUDENTS,
WHO WISHED TO GO, AND I HID THEM
IN THE BASEMENT OF MY PAVILION.
>> Reporter: SOME ARE HOPEFUL
NOW THERE RACISM HAS BEEN
EXPOSED HERE IT'S BEING ROOTED
OUT.
THIS WEEKEND WILL BE A TEST OF
THAT.
>> I GET DEATH THREATS EVERY
DAY.
WE'VE HAD BOMB THREATS AT MY
DAUGHTER'S SCHOOL.
I HAVE PEOPLE SENDING ME CRAZY
MESSAGES.
IT'S DIFFICULT.
THE WATERS ARE MUDDY.
BUT BEFORE YOU GET THE CLEAN
WATER, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH
THE MUD.
>> Reporter: THE DIVISIONS HERE
HAVE DEEP ROOTS AND THEY'VE BEEN
UNEARTHED AGAIN FOR ALL TO SEE.
THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS,
CHARLOTTESVILLE.
>> Ian: THE UNITE THE RIGHT
GROUP HAS CANCELLED THEIR RALLY
IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.
THEY WILL HOLD IT IN WASHINGTON
INSTEAD, MARCHING IN LAFAYETTE
SQUARE, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE
WHITE HOUSE.
THE PARK SERVICE HAS GRANTED
THEM A PERMIT, ALLOWING 400
PEOPLE TO TAKE PART.
FORMER KU KLUX KLAN GRAND WIZARD
DAVID DUKE IS AMONG THOSE
SCHEDULED TO SPEAK.
FEDERAL OFFICIALS HAVE GIVEN
PERMISSION FOR TWO COUNTER
PROTESTS TO TAKE PLACE.
>>> AHEAD TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL," NEW MOTHERS ARE
WARNED ABOUT POSTPARTUM
DEPRESSION.
TONIGHT, THERE ARE CALLS TO WARN
FATHERS AS WELL.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE RESEARCH AND
THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> Adrienne: BUT FIRST, MORE
SPECIAL COVERAGE FROM
FREDERICTON, WHERE THE COMMUNITY
HAS COME TOGETHER TO TRY TO HEAL
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TO SUPPORT
ONE ANOTHER.
THEY'RE ALSO GETTING SUPPORT
FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH
PEOPLE SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS
WITH #FREDERICTONSTRONG.
>> ON A SAD AND DARK DAY, WE
WANTED TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT WITH
SOME PRETTY FLOWERS AND KIND
WORDS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP
US SAFE.
>> WE OWE THEM OUR GRATITUDE FOR
THEIR SACRIFICE.
WE'RE MOURNING WITH YOU.
>> SENDING THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS
FROM ONTARIO TO THE PEOPLE OF
FREDERICTON.
>> FREDERICTON STRONG.
>> AS MAYOR, IT'S SOMETHING THAT
I NEVER WANTED TO HAVE TO LIVE
THROUGH.
I HAVE.
I AM.
WE ARE.
AS I SAID, WE WILL GET THROUGH
THIS TOGETHER.
>> Adrienne: AND THAT'S
FREDERICTON MAYOR MIKE O'BRIEN
PUTTING TO WORDS THE THOUGHTS OF
HIS CITY TONIGHT AFTER A MORNING
OF VIOLENCE THAT LEFT FOUR
PEOPLE DEAD, TWO OF THEM POLICE
OFFICERS JUST TRYING TO PROTECT
AND DEFEND THEIR COMMUNITY,
THEIR HOME.
AS THIS COMMUNITY TRIES TO GO TO
SLEEP TONIGHT, LET'S REMIND YOU
OF WHAT THEY WOKE UP TO, THE
FOUR TENSE HOURS THIS MORNING.
HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE
SHOOTING PRECISELY AS IT
UNFOLDED.
>> I WAS WOKE UP AT 7:07 THIS
MORNING BY SHOTS.
THEY WERE COMING DIRECTLY FROM
OUTSIDE OF MY BEDROOM WINDOW.
>> Adrienne: JUST AFTER
7:00 A.M., A CALL WENT OUT TO
FREDERICTON POLICE.
SHOTS HAD BEEN FIRED.
7:10, TWO OFFICERS RESPONDED TO
THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX.
IT HAS FOUR BUILDINGS, A, B, C,
AND D.
ALL THE GUNFIRE, SAYS ONE
WITNESS, HAPPENED AROUND
BUILDING C.
WHEN THE OFFICERS ARRIVED, THEY
FOUND TWO BODIES.
THAT'S WHEN THE SHOOTING STARTED
AGAIN.
HOW LONG DID IT LAST?
>> I WANT TO SAY 15, 20 MINUTES.
THEN IT STOPPED FOR A WHILE.
>> Adrienne: THEN THE FIRST
PUBLIC WARNING FROM POLICE,
AVOID BROOKSIDE DRIVE BECAUSE OF
AN ONGOING INCIDENT.
6 MINUTES LATER, A MORE DIRECT
WARNING -- LOCK YOUR DOORS.
MORE SHOTS FOLLOWED, ON AND OFF.
>> THE POLICE WERE TELLING
EVERYBODY TO STAY LOW, AWAY FROM
YOUR WINDOWS.
>> Adrienne: JOHN GIBBONS FROM
HIS HOME NEAR THOSE BUILDINGS
SAW THIS, AN ARMORED VEHICLE
WITH HEAVILY ARMED OFFICERS.
>> WENT INTO THE BUILDING AND
THEN THE TEAR GAS STARTED.
I IMAGINE THEY WERE FLUSHING
HIM OUT.
>> Adrienne: AT 8:17, THE FIRST
FEW, TRAGIC DETAILS TRICKLED IN
FROM POLICE.
MULTIPLE FATALITIES.
THEN MORE SPECIFIC, AT LEAST
FOUR PEOPLE KILLED.
AT THE SAME TIME, POLICE WERE
GOING DOOR TO DOOR, COMBING
THROUGH OTHER APARTMENTS.
>> THE POLICE CAME IN AT ABOUT
8:30 OR SO TO SEARCH MY
APARTMENT.
I KNEW THEY WERE COMING BECAUSE
I HEARD THEM BANGING ON DOORS.
SO I HAD MY CLOSET DOORS OPEN
AND STUFF SO THEY COULD GO
THROUGH MY APARTMENT QUICKLY AND
CARRY ON WITH THEIR SEARCH.
>> Adrienne: SOME RESIDENTS WERE
CLEARED OUT AND SOON THE POLICE
MOVED IN.
>> AROUND 9:30, FREDERICTON
POLICE FORCE ENTERED AN
APARTMENT AND ARRESTED A
48-YEAR-OLD MAN FROM
FREDERICTON.
HE WAS TAKEN TO THE DR. EVERETT
CHALMERS HOSPITAL AND UNDERGOING
TREATMENT FOR SERIOUS INJURIES.
>> Andrew: 45 MINUTES LATER, THE
FINAL DETAIL FROM POLICE.
OF THE DEAD, TWO OF THEM WERE
THEIR OWN.
JUST AFTER 11:00 A.M., THE
LOCKDOWN WAS LIFTED.
I'M JOINED NOW BY DAVID
MACCOUBREY, WHO YOU SAW IN THAT
PIECE JUST NOW.
YOU LIVE IN THIS APARTMENT
COMPLEX BEHIND US.
YOU'VE BEEN OUT OF IT ALL DAY.
HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT?
>> TIRED.
IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY AND NOT THE
BEST DAY, OBVIOUSLY.
SO I'M MAKING IT THROUGH.
>> Adrienne: YOU WOKE UP WITH A
HECK OF A START THIS MORNING.
CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT
STANDS OUT THE MOST ABOUT WHAT
YOU WENT THROUGH TODAY?
>> IT WAS JUST, SITTING THERE ON
MY FLOOR, I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS
IS GOING ON IN MY CITY.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CITY, PEACEFUL
CITY, AND NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU
WOULD EXPECT TO WAKE UP TO IN
FREDERICTON.
>> Adrienne: WHAT DID YOU SEE
THAT STILL RATTLES AROUND FOR
YOU?
>> AT ONE POINT, THERE HAD NOT
BEEN SHOTS FOR ABOUT A HALF-HOUR
OR 20 MINUTES AND I SEEN THAT IN
THE COURTYARD BEHIND US, THAT
THEY HAD THE ARMOURED TRUCK AND
THE COP WAS STANDING THERE, SO I
THOUGHT, MAYBE IT'S OVER WITH I
HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING FOR A
WHILE.
SO I OPENED MY WINDOW AND I WAS
BEING CAUTIOUS, BUT I DON'T KNOW
IF IT WAS FATE OR SOMETHING, AS
SOON AS I OPENED THAT WINDOW,
THE SHOTS STARTED FLYING AGAIN.
IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE COMING
FROM BELOW MY WINDOW.
THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I FELT
FRIGHTENED.
I THOUGHT, I BETTER GET AWAY
FROM THIS WINDOW.
THEN I FELT BAD FOR THE COPS, SO
I LIFTED MY HEAD TO SEE IF THE
COP WAS OK.
SEEMED LIKE HE WAS STILL
STANDING THERE.
I SLAMMED MY WINDOW SHUT AND
CRAWLED BACK ON MY KITCHEN
FLOOR.
>> Adrienne: YOU TOLD ME
EARLIER, YOU HAVE IN YOUR
APARTMENT RIGHT NOW, A MEAT
CLEAVER STANDING BY.
WHY WAS THAT?
>> I HAD A MEAT CLEAVER AND
HAMMER SITTING THERE.
YOU SEE THINGS ON AMERICAN NEWS
WHAT CAN GO WRONG IF SOMEBODY
TRIES TO GET INTO YOUR HOUSE.
THEY WEREN'T GOING TO COME INTO
MY HOUSE.
I WAS SURE I WOULD PROTECT
MYSELF.
I WANTED TO GO OUT AND HELP, BUT
I KNEW IT WOULD NOT MAKE THE
SITUATION BETTER.
>> Adrienne: WHAT DO YOU MEAN,
HELP?
>> I WANTED TO GO OUT AND TRY TO
STOP THE PERSON FROM DOING THIS.
I KNEW THAT PEOPLE WERE DYING
OUT THERE AND IT WAS UPSETTING
ME.
>> Adrienne: I CAN IMAGINE.
AND I KNOW IT'S STILL UPSETTING
YOU.
THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT SO MANY
PEOPLE HAVE.
WHAT IS THE QUESTION THAT'S
REALLY BOTHERING YOU THE MOST?
>> I JUST -- I DON'T KNOW IF
IT'S A QUESTION OR A THOUGHT.
I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS
WHAT OUR WORLD'S COMING TO NOW.
IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY OTHER WEEK,
WE'RE HAVING A SHOOTING GOING ON
IN THE STATES AND NOW IT'S
SPREADING UP TO CANADA.
WE HAD ONE IN THE DANFORTH A
COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WEEK AGO.
AND NOW THIS HERE IN
FREDERICTON.
I JUST WISH IT WOULD STOP.
>> Adrienne: YOU'RE NOT ALONE IN
THAT.
I HOPE YOU GET A GOOD NIGHT'S
SLEEP, OK?
>> THANK YOU.
>> Adrienne: THERE IS A MOMENT
WE WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU NOW.
IT'S A QUIET MOMENT.
WE CAPTURED OUTSIDE THE POLICE
HEADQUARTERS HERE IN
FREDERICTON.
[VIOLIN PLAYING]
IT'S A TRIBUTE FROM A FELLOW
FIRST RESPONDER.
THIS PARAMEDIC WALKED UP TO THE
GROWING MEMORIAL.
HE OPENED UP HIS VIOLIN CASE AND
JUST STARTED PLAYING.
WE WILL HEAR FROM HIM A LITTLE
LATER ON "THE NATIONAL."
>> Ian: WE ARE LIVE ON "THE
NATIONAL" WITH THE LATEST ON THE
CRASH TONIGHT OF A STOLEN
HORIZON PLANE WITH NO PASSENGERS
ABOARD.
A 29-YEAR-OLD AIRLINE MECHANIC
DESCRIBED BY POLICE AS SUICIDAL
TOOK OFF FROM SEATAC AIRPORT IN
SEATTLE, JUST SOUTH OF
VANCOUVER.
F-15 FIGHTER JETS WERE
SCRAMBLED, BUT WE'RE TOLD DID
NOT SHOOT THE PLANE DOWN.
HERE'S PIERCE COUNTY SHERIFF.
>> THEY DON'T DO LOOPS OVER THE
WATER.
SO THERE IS NO INDICATION IT WAS
A TERRORIST ACT OR ATTEMPT TO
ATTACK.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN A JOYRIDE GONE
TERRIBLY WRONG.
>> Ian: LET'S LOOK AT SOME VIDEO
OF THE PLANE BEFORE IT CRASHED.
POLICE HAD NO INDICATION THAT
ANYONE ELSE WAS HURT WHEN IT DID
CRASH.
>>> WE'VE ALL HEARD OF
POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION AFFECTING
NEW MOTHERS, BUT ACCORDING TO
NEW RESEARCH, IT'S AN ISSUE FOR
SOME FATHERS AS WELL.
IT'S A TOPIC HIGHLIGHTED IN
AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL
CONFERENCE THIS WEEK.
AS KAS ROUSSY REPORTS, MANY
FATHERS ARE RELUCTANT TO ADMIT
THEY NEED HELP.
>> COME ON.
DO A SMILE.
>> Reporter: FIRST-TIME FATHER
ARIC GUITE IS SPENDING SOME
QUALITY TIME FOR 5-MONTH-OLD
SON, OLIVER, GOOD FOR DAD, AND
GOOD FOR MOM, WHO IS GETTING A
MUCH-NEEDED NAP.
>> I DON'T THINK SHE GOT MUCH
SLEEP LAST NIGHT, SO TRYING TO
GIVE HER SOME TIME ALONE.
>> Reporter: IT'S CAUSE FOR
CELEBRATION, BUT IT CAN BE A
STRESSFUL TIME, AND NOT JUST
WITH MOMS.
NEW FATHERS, TOO, CAN EXPERIENCE
SOME FORM OF DEPRESSION AFTER
THEIR BABY'S BORN.
IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT CAUSES IT,
BUT ROUGHLY 10% OF NEW DADS
EXPERIENCE POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION
AND RESEARCH SHOWS IT CAN LINGER
FOR UP TO SIX MONTHS AFTER THE
BIRTH OF A CHILD.
FATHERS WILL ALSO EXPERIENCE
DEPRESSION DIFFERENTLY THAN
MOTHERS, SAID THIS U.S.-BASED
PSYCHOLOGIST.
>> MANY TIMES THEY WILL
EXPERIENCE IT IN MALE-MASKED
DEPRESSION, SO SYMPTOMS OF
ANGER, FRUSTRATION,
IRRITABILITY, AS WELL AS SOCIAL
ISOLATION, INCREASE IN SUBSTANCE
USE.
>> Reporter: POSTPARTUM
DEPRESSION IN FATHERS HAS BEEN A
LONG-OVERLOOKED PUBLIC HEALTH
ISSUE.
>> THERE'S SO LITTLE INFORMATION
ABOUT IT.
NOBODY REALLY GETS TRAINING
ABOUT THE FATHER'S ROLE IN THE
REPRODUCTIVE MENTAL HEALTH
PROCESS.
>> Reporter: IN TORONTO, A
FATHER'S MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMME
HAS BEEN ASSESSING FATHERS FOR
EARLY SIGNS OF DEPRESSION SINCE
2014.
>> HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT
IT IS THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH AT
THAT MOMENT.
PROVIDING THEM A LOT OF
EDUCATION, ONE, THAT MAY HELP
THEM TO IN A SENSE NORMALIZE
THEIR EXPERIENCE, LET THEM KNOW
THEY'RE NOT ALONE WITH THIS.
>> Reporter: NEW DAD ARIC GUITE
SAID HE'S A LITTLE SLEEP
DEPRIVED, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.
STILL, HE WAS GLAD WHEN A
MIDWIFE CHECKED UP ON HIM DURING
ONE OF HIS WIFE'S APPOINTMENTS.
>> WHEN SARAH HAD TO GO AND DO A
TEST, THE MIDWIFE WOULD ALWAYS
TAKE A MINUTE AND ASK HOW I'M
DOING.
>> Reporter: NEW FATHERS ARE NOT
USUALLY CHECKED FOR SIGNS OF
DEPRESSION.
BUT IN THE U.S., PSYCHOLOGISTS
ARE CALLING FOR REGULAR
SCREENING OF NEW FATHERS HOPING
TO DETECT ANY SIGNS OF
DEPRESSION.
KAS ROUSSY, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Ian: UP NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL," WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO
SAVE A TV SHOW?
WE'LL LOOK AT HOW MILLIONS OF
FANS ARE BANDING TOGETHER TO
KEEP THEIR FAVOURITES ON THE
AIR.
>> TO SEE SO MANY YOUNG ADULTS
PUT THEIR PASSION INTO ACTION
AND PUSH FORWARD A HIGHLY
COORDINATED EFFORT, I THINK, FOR
ME PERSONALLY, IT GIVES ME HOPE,
JUST FOR THE FUTURE IN GENERAL,
TV ASIDE.
>> CONCENTRATED U.V. RAYS.
EVEN MORE INTENSE THAN SUNLIGHT.
>> Ian: SUSPENSE, ACTION,
ROMANCE, ALL IN A SUPERNATURAL
REALM.
THAT'S THE TV SERIES "SHADOW
HUNTERS" IN A NUTSHELL.
IT'S A FORMULA THAT HAS
WARRANTED A DIEHARD TEENAGE FAN
BASE.
THAT BASE IS STEPPING UP,
FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL AFTER
NEWS BROKE THAT THE IS SERIES IS
GETTING CANCELLED.
IT'S NOT JUST "SHADOW HUNTERS,"
THE ENTIRE GENRE HAS SEEN THAT
EXTRAORDINARY LEVEL OF SUPPORT.
AS DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON TELLS
US, IT HAS PAID OFF AND KEPT
SOME SHOWS ON THE AIR.
>> Reporter: "SHADOW HUNTERS" IS
A FANTASY SERIES ABOUT VAMPIRES,
WEREWOLVES AND WARLOCKS.
WHEN ITS FANS FOUND OUT IT WAS
CANCELLED, IT INSPIRED SOME VERY
REAL ACTION.
#SAVESHADOWHUNTERS WAS USED IN
15 MILLION TWEETS.
FANS PAID FOR ADS ON BUSES AND
BILLBOARDS IN TIMES SQUARE AND
TORONTO.
>> WE BUILT A LITTLE PIECE OF
NEW YORK CITY ON OUR STAGE.
>> Reporter: CANADIAN CHRIS
HATCHER IS ONE OF THE PRODUCERS
OF "SHADOW HUNTERS."
HE KNOWS THE SHOW'S TORONTO SET
LIKE THE BACK OF HIS HAND.
STREETS, RESTAURANTS, AN
APARTMENT, LOVED BY THE FANS,
NOW STAND EMPTY.
>> IT CAME AS A SHOCK TO
EVERYBODY.
IT WAS A BUSINESS DECISION MADE
AT A HIGH LEVEL.
>> Reporter: AT THE MOMENT,
THERE ARE NO PLANS FOR A NEW
"SHADOW HUNTERS," BUT FANS OF
THIS GENRE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL
AT RESCUING THE SHOWS THEY LOVE.
"THE EXPANSE," A CRITICALLY
ACCLAIMED SHOW THAT TAKES PLACE
IN SPACE, GOT CANCELLED AND THEN
GOT PICKED UP FOR ANOTHER SEASON
AFTER AN AMBITIOUS FAN CAMPAIGN.
>> THIS STUFF IS KIND OF COOL.
>> Reporter: BOTH OF THESE FILMS
ARE FILMED IN CANADA, NOW A
GO-TO PLACE FOR CREWS TO GO FOR
SET DESIGNS AND ESSENTIAL FOR
GENRE TELEVISION.
AND THEY'VE MASTERED THE FORMULA
-- ONE PART ESCAPISM, ONE PART
RELATABILITY.
>> IT'S ABOUT CREATING A WORLD
THAT PEOPLE WANT TO ENGAGE WITH
AND IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL.
THAT SENSE OF BEING IN AN
ALTERNATE REALM, WHILE
DELIVERING RELATABLE CHARACTERS
AND RELATABLE SCENARIOS.
>> Reporter: WITH "SHADOW
HUNTERS," FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT FANS
RAVE ABOUT IS THE PORTRAYAL OF
SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIPS.
>> THERE ARE CHARACTERS THAT ARE
GAY, BISEXUAL, LESBIAN, BUT
THOSE QUALITIES DON'T DEFINE
THEM AS CHARACTERS.
>> Reporter: EVEN WITH ALL THAT,
A SHOW'S FUTURE IN THE
COMPETITIVE TELEVISION LANDSCAPE
IS ALWAYS UNCERTAIN.
FOR THE TORONTO PRODUCER, THERE
ARE REWARDS, EVEN IF THE SHOW IS
NOT EXTENDED.
AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE FANS
DONATED $20,000 TO A SUICIDE
PREVENTION PROJECT FOR LGBTQ
YOUTH, WHICH THEY FELT WAS IN
THE SPIRIT OF THE SHOW.
>> TO SEE SO MANY YOUNG ADULTS
PUT THEIR PASSION INTO ACTION
AND PUSH FORWARD SUCH A HIGHLY
COORDINATED EFFORT, I THINK, FOR
ME PERSONALLY, IT GIVES ME HOPE
JUST FOR THE FUTURE IN GENERAL,
TV ASIDE.
>> Reporter: "SHADOW HUNTERS"
FANS WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO
FEAST ON NO MATTER THE OUTCOME
OF THEIR CAMPAIGN.
10 MORE EPISODES OF THE SHOW AND
TWO-HOUR FINALE HAVE YET TO AIR
ON NETFLIX.
DEANA SUMANAC-JOHNSON, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Ian: UP NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL," WE'LL HAVE MORE FROM
ADRIENNE IN FREDERICTON.
BUT FIRST, THE NATIONAL TODAY,
TAKES YOU INSIDE OUR JOURNALISM
EVERY AFTERNOON.
GOES DEEPER ON SOME OF THE TOP
STORIES AND HIGHLIGHTS STORIES
YOU MAY HAVE MISSED.
TODAY IT WAS THE CONTROVERSIAL
COMMENTS BY BORIS JOHNSON THAT
COULD SEE BRITAIN'S FORMER
FOREIGN SECRETARY BOOTED OUT OF
HIS OWN PARTY.
SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER AT
cbc.ca/thenational.
>> Ian: HERE'S SOME VIDEO OF
THAT HORIZON AIRLINES PLANE WITH
A SUICIDAL AIRLINE MECHANIC AT
THE CONTROLS.
THIS WAS TAKEN EARLIER THIS
EVENING.
THE 29-YEAR-OLD STOLE THE PLANE
FROM SEATAC AIRPORT.
WE WERE LISTENING TO HIS
TRANSMISSIONS TO AIR TRAFFIC
CONTROL AND HE SOUNDED DEEPLY
TROUBLED.
HERE'S WHAT ONE OF THE WITNESSES
SAID HAPPENED.
>> I SAW THE PLANE FLYING LOW
AND THOUGHT, MAYBE HE JUST LEFT
THE AIRPORT.
NO, IT'S WAY TOO LOW.
SEE TWO JETS FOLLOWING THE
PLANE.
AND WENT BEHIND A TREE AND THEN,
BAM, IT HIT AN ISLAND.
>> Ian: LET'S TAKE A CLOSER LOOK
AT THE CRASH SITE TONIGHT.
THIS IS NOT FAR FROM SEATTLE.
EYEWITNESSES SAYING THEY COULD
FEEL THE GROUND SHAKE.
IT'S A HEAVILY WOODED ISLAND.
THERE ARE NO STRUCTURES THERE
THAT THEY KNOW OF.
FOR THE ENTIRE INCIDENT,
ALTHOUGH THE PILOT PRESUMED TO
HAVE DIED, THERE IS NO
EXPECTATION THAT ANYONE ELSE WAS
INJURED IN THIS INCIDENT.
WE'LL STAY ON TOP OF THESE
DEVELOPMENTS ON CBC NEWS AND
CBCNEWS.CA.
>> Andrew: IN MOMENTS OF GRIEF,
IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIND THE
RIGHT WORDS AND THAT WAS
CERTAINLY THE CASE FOR ONE MAN
AS HE STOOD OUTSIDE THE GROWING
MEMORIAL IN FREDERICTON TODAY.
SO INSTEAD, HE DID WHAT HE
COULD.
HE TURNED TO MUSIC.
BRIAN FORNIER IS A PARAMEDIC
WITH AMBULANCE NEW BRUNSWICK.
HE DECIDED TO TAKE OUT HIS
VIOLIN AND JUST PLAY.
WE SPOKE TO HIM AS HE STARTED
HIS SHIFT THIS EVENING.
THIS IS OUR "MOMENT."
>> I WANTED TO OFFER MY SUPPORT
ANY WAY I COULD.
[VIOLIN PLAYING]
I PUT THE CARDS DOWN IN FRONT OF
EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
I TOOK THE VIOLIN OUT AND DECIDE
TO PLAY SOMETHING THAT WAS ON MY
MIND.
[VIOLIN PLAYING]
MY BEST FRIENDS ARE FIRST
RESPONDERS.
SO WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS
HAPPENS, IT FEELS LIKE A PIECE
OF YOUR FAMILY IS TORN AWAY.
WHETHER IT'S FIRE, PARAMEDICS OR
POLICE, WE ARE REALLY OUT THERE
FOR THE PUBLIC AND WE REALLY,
REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT.
IT'S A VERY SAD SITUATION, BUT I
KNOW WE'LL GET THROUGH IT,
BECAUSE FREDERICTON IS REALLY
STRONG.
I LOVE MY 911 FAMILY AND I'M
REALLY, REALLY THANKFUL FOR THE
UNBREAKABLE BOND WE ALL SHARE
TOGETHER.
[VIOLIN PLAYING]
>> Adrienne: SO PEOPLE PROPPING
EACH OTHER UP.
AGAIN, WE GO BACK TO THAT SCENE
AT THE HOSPITAL TODAY WITH ALL
THOSE OFFICERS STANDING THERE,
WAITING FOR THE CHIEF.
STANDING WITH EACH OTHER.
THE PEOPLE OF FREDERICTON
STANDING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER.
AGAIN ECHOES OF THE DANFORTH.
CERTAINLY ECHOES OF MONCTON.
I REMEMBER THAT MEMORIAL WITH
ALL OF THOSE OFFICERS AND
EVERYONE IS THINKING ABOUT
MONCTON TONIGHT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU AN
EDITORIAL DRAWING TODAY DONE BY
THE GREAT MICHAEL DEATTER.
I THINK WE HAVE IT FOR YOU.
IT'S AN RCMP OFFICER WITH HIS
ARM AROUND A FREDERICTON POLICE
OFFICER.
THIS IS REALLY WHAT'S IN
PEOPLE'S MINDS TODAY, IAN.
>> Ian: ONE OF THE PEOPLE YOU
TALKED TO DURING THE PROGRAMME,
DAVID, WHO LIVES IN THAT
APARTMENT COMPLEX.
YOU COULD HEAR HIS DESPAIR AS HE
LOOKED AT ALL OF THE SHOOTINGS
-- DANFORTH, MONCTON,
FREDERICTON, OF COURSE, AND
LOOKING FOR ANSWERS.
HOPEFULLY WE START TO GET
ANSWERS SOON.
OUR JOURNALISM IS MOVING FORWARD
ON THAT ON THINGS LIKE MOTIVE.
>> Adrienne: WE'LL KEEP TRYING.
THAT IS "THE NATIONAL" FOR
FRIDAY, AUGUST 10.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Ian: GOOD NIGHT.
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