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>> Adrienne: ON THIS SUNDAY
NIGHT HERE IN FREDRICTON, FAMILY
AND FRIENDS OF THE FALLEN ARE
SPEAKING OUT ABOUT THEIR LOSS
AND THE DAY THAT EVERYTHING
CHANGED.
>> WHY HIM?
WHY TAKE A GOOD MAN?
WHY TAKE AWAY TWO KIDS' FATHERS?
>> Adrienne: UNITED IN THEIR
GRIEF AND ASKING WHY WOULD
SOMEONE OPEN FIRE ON A COUPLE
SEEMINGLY JUST IN THE WRONG
PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME.
AND THE OFFICERS
WHO JUST CAME TO THEIR AID.
WE WILL BRING YOU THEIR STORIES,
THE LIVES THEY LIVED AND THE
CITY STANDING STRONG BEHIND
THEM.
>> Rosemary: ALSO TONIGHT, A
YEAR AFTER RACE-FUELLED VIOLENCE
STRUCK CHARLOTTESVILLE, WHITE
NATIONALISTS ARE SHOUTED DOWN.
>>> AND JUST HOW DOES SOMEONE
WITH NO TRAINING STEAL AND THEN
FLY A PASSENGER PLANE?
THE BIZARRE AND TRAGIC STORY
RAISING SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT
AIRPORT SECURITY AND SCREENING.
>> Adrienne: THIS IS "THE
NATIONAL."
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>>> WE ARE JUST OUTSIDE THE
FREDERICTON POLICE DEPARTMENT
THIS EVENING.
THIS HAS BECOME THE SCENE OF A
GROWING MEMORIAL FOR THE VICTIMS
OF FRIDAY'S DEADLY SHOOTING.
TWO OF THEM WERE SWORN POLICE
OFFICERS.
THIS IS BECOMING A PLACE FOR
PEOPLE TO GATHER.
THEY ARE BRINGING CARDS,
FLOWERS, KIDS' DRAWINGS OF
POLICE OFFICERS AS SUPER HEROES.
TODAY THE PRIME MINISTER JOINED
THEM.
WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IS AS THE
SHOCK GIVES WAY, HUNGER FOR SOME
EXPLANATION MOVES IN.
SO TONIGHT WE WILL WALK THROUGH
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE SUSPECT
AND THE INVESTIGATION.
WE'LL SHOW YOU HOW THE COMMUNITY
IS RESOLVING TO CARRY ON, EVEN
HOLDING ITS ANNUAL PRIDE PARADE.
AND BEFORE HE ATTENDED A PRIDE
EVENT, JUSTIN TRUDEAU MET WITH
MEMBERS OF THE POLICE FORCE AND
SOME OF THE VICTIMS' FAMILIES
TODAY.
SO LET'S BEGIN WITH THOSE
FAMILIES TONIGHT.
FOUR PEOPLE WHO DIED SO BRUTALLY
JUST TWO DAYS AGO.
ROBB COSTELLO AND SARA BURNS
WERE DEDICATED FIRST RESPONDERS,
COMMITTED TO SIMPLY KEEPING
THEIR
FELLOW CITIZENS SAFE.
BOBBIE LEE WRIGHT WAS A QUIET
YOUNG WOMAN WHO LOVED HER
FRIENDS AND HER NEW BOYFRIEND,
DONNIE ROBICHAUD.
HE ENJOYED MOTORCYCLES, MUSIC,
AND HIS KIDS.
>> HE NEVER TOOK IT OFF.
>> Adrienne: A SLIGHTLY
BLOODIED HARLEY-DAVIDSON DOG TAG
IS A TERRIBLE MOMENTO TO HANG ON
TO BUT MELISSA ROBICHAUD WON'T
LET IT GO.
HER EX-HUSBAND, DONNIE
ROBICHAUD, WAS WEARING IT WHEN
HE WAS KILLED.
>> I MEAN, HE WAS A VERY TALL,
HANDSOME MAN, TATTOOS,
PIERCINGS.
VERY ATTRACTIVE.
I WAS PROUD TO WALK AROUND WITH
HIM ON MY ARM.
VERY PROUD.
HE WAS STRONG, HE WAS
PROTECTIVE.
HE WAS JUST A GOOD MAN.
>> Adrienne: THEY'D ONLY
BROKEN UP MONTHS AGO BUT WERE
CLOSE.
SHE HAD PLANNED TO PICK UP THEIR
KIDS AT THE APARTMENT THAT
MORNING AND HAPPENED TO GET THEM
THE NIGHT BEFORE.
>> I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE
OUTSIDE WITH THEM.
>> Adrienne: DO YOU FEEL THAT
YOU MISSED DISASTER NARROWLY?
>> NOT SO MUCH ME.
I FEEL LIKE MY KIDS COULD HAVE
BEEN SHOT.
>> Adrienne: UNDERSTANDABLY
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THINKING A LOT
ABOUT TIMING.
LAST-MINUTE INNOCENT MUNDANE
CALLS THAT PUT ALL FOUR VICTIMS
AT THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX AT
THAT TIME.
ROBICHAUD WAS ON THE EARLY
SHIFT AT AN AUTO PARTS STORE
FRIDAY.
LIFE WAS WORKING OUT.
HE HAD MOVED INTO THE BROOKSIDE
APARTMENT A FEW MONTHS AGO.
RECENTLY HE HAD STARTED DATING
BOBBIE LEE WRIGHT.
HE NORMALLY LEFT THE APARTMENT
EARLY BUT HIS COUSIN SAID THAT
FRIDAY WAS
A BIT DIFFERENT.
>> HE WAS GOING ON VACATION, HE
AND BOBBIE WERE GETTING AWAY,
JUST TO GET AWAY, YOU KNOW, AND
TO HAVE SOME FUN.
>> Adrienne: PACK THE CAR AND
DROP WRIGHT AT A FRIEND AND THEN
HEAD TO WORK WAS THE INTENT.
BUT THEN CAME GUNFIRE.
THEIR BODIES WERE FOUND NEAR THE
CAR.
ONE WITNESS SAID THAT ROBICHAUD
WAS STILL HOLDING A BAG.
THOSE SHOTS SPARKED CALLS TO
POLICE.
ROBB COSTELLO AND SARA MAE BURNS
WERE AT THE STATION.
BURNS, HER FRIEND BRIAN JONES
SAYS, DIDN'T HAVE TO GO OUT.
>> SHE WAS JUST GETTING OFF
SHIFT.
7:00 IS THE CHANGE SHIFT AND SHE
HAD FORGOT SOMETHING IN HER CAR
AND WENT BACK TO THE CAR AND SO
THEY USED THE SAME CAR.
SO ROBB, THE OTHER OFFICER WHO
PASSED AWAY, HE WAS IN THE CAR
NEXT AND WHEN SHE WAS GETTING IN
THE CAR TO GET HER STUFF THE
CALL CAME IN.
SO SHE DECIDED TO GO WITH HIM.
AND SHE COULD HAVE EASILY SAID,
YOU CAN GO AND I'LL GO HOME.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHO SHE WAS.
>> Adrienne: A WOMAN
DETERMINED TO FOLLOW A DREAM OF
BEING A POLICE OFFICER, THOUGH
THAT MEANT STARTING IN HER LATE
30s.
SHE WAS DEDICATED TO PROTECTING
WOMEN FROM VIOLENCE.
IF YOU EXPECT RAGE, BRIAN JONES
SAYS THAT THE FAMILY HASN'T BEEN
TALKING ABOUT THE SUSPECT.
>> I THINK THAT PEOPLE REALIZE
THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF
PEOPLE THAT ARE HURTING OUT
THERE AND HAVE PROBLEMS AND
ISSUES AND NEED TO TALK TO
PEOPLE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
SARA WAS WORKING TOWARDS.
>> Adrienne: YOU SOUND ALMOST
MORE EMPATHETIC THAN ANGRY?
>> DEFINITELY EMPATHETIC.
>> Reporter: SHAWN CALLAHAN'S
MINDSET IS DIFFERENT.
HE IS FURIOUS WITH THE ALLEGED
SHOOTER.
>> I SEEN THE GUY YESTERDAY
BEING WHEELED
BY ME IN A BED.
>> Adrienne: WHAT WAS THAT
LIKE?
>> WHAT DID I WANT TO DO?
IT WAS, YEAH... YOU KNOW WHAT I
WANTED TO DO.
IT WASN'T NICE.
IT WASN'T GOOD.
>> Adrienne: HE'S BEEN
CARRYING AROUND ROBICHAUD'S
20-YEAR-OLD BASS.
>> I'M GOING TO PUT THE ASHES IN
THIS AND I'M GOING TO SEAL IT
AND I'M GOING TO BURY HIM WITH
THIS.
THIS IS HIS CASKET RIGHT HERE.
>> Adrienne: THERE IS NO
EXPLAINING THIS YET.
NOW IS FOR COPING HOWEVER THEY
CAN.
NOW BOBBIE LEE WRIGHT'S FAMILY
ISN'T READY TO TALK YET BUT
CONSTABLE ROBB COSTELLO'S WIDOW,
JACKIE McLEAN, DID CHOOSE TO
SPEAK ONLY TO OUR COLLEAGUES AT
CBC NEW BRUNSWICK.
SO HERE'S SOME OF WHAT SHE
SHARED EARLIER THIS EVENING...
>> HE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE
THAT I KNEW WHAT I WAS GETTING
INTO BY BEING WITH SOMEONE IN
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
BUT, HEY, I KNEW THAT THIS COULD
HAPPEN.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF RULES IN OUR
RELATIONSHIP.
THE FIRST RULE WAS NO DYING.
HE PROMISED ME THAT HE WAS NEVER
GOING TO DIE.
AND THE OTHER THING WAS THAT HE
ALWAYS TOLD ME THAT NO MATTER
WHAT HAPPENED ON THE JOB, HE
WOULD ALWAYS COME HOME.
AND THAT'S THE HARDEST PART FOR
ME RIGHT NOW IS THAT HE HASN'T
COME HOME.
I HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO
SEE HIM YET.
TO ME HE HASN'T COME HOME YET.
I'M SURE THAT HE WILL BE
REMEMBERED VERY FONDLY.
HE WAS THE BEST PERSON THAT I'VE
EVER KNOWN AND HE REALLY WAS, HE
HAD AN EXTRAORDINARY MORAL
COMPASS.
HE WAS EXTRAORDINARILY GENEROUS.
HE MADE ME WANT TO BE A BETTER
PERSON.
AND IT'S SO VERY DIFFICULT FOR
ME TO REALIZE THAT I DON'T HAVE
THAT ANYMORE.
I HAVE HEARD FROM SO MANY OF HIS
COLLEAGUES THAT HE'LL BE FONDLY
REMEMBERED.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ROBB
ALWAYS SAID IS THAT IF SOMETHING
EVER
HAPPENED TO HIM HE DIDN'T WANT
US TO CRY.
SO I'M GOING TO TRY REALLY HARD
NOT TO.
BUT THAT HE WANTS US TO REMEMBER
HIM FOR HOW FUNNY HE WAS AND ALL
THE GOOD TIMES THAT WE HAD
TOGETHER.
>> Adrienne: CONSTABLE ROBB
COSTELLO LEAVES BEHIND FOUR
CHILDREN.
NOW JACKIE McLEAN SAYS THAT HE
WAS MOST PROUD OF THE KIDS, THE
ADULTS THEY WERE GROWING UP TO
BE, AND THE WORK THAT HE DID
EVERY DAY.
CONSTABLE COSTELLO AND CONSTABLE
SARA MAE BURNS WILL BE HONOURED
IN A REGIMENTAL FUNERAL NEXT
SATURDAY HERE IN FREDERICTON.
AS FOR THE SUSPECT IN THE
SHOOTING, WELL, POLICE STILL
HAVEN'T TOLD US MUCH OF ANYTHING
AT ALL ABOUT MATTHEW VINCENT
RAYMOND.
SO WHAT DO WE KNOW?
THAT'S WHY KAYLA HOUNSELL IS
JOINING US NOW WITH THAT.
KAYLA, WHAT CAN YOU TELL US?
>> Reporter: WELL, ADRIENNE,
SO FAR POLICE HAVE ONLY TOLD US
HIS NAME -- MATTHEW
VINCENT RAYMOND AND HE'S 48
YEARS OLD AND FROM FREDERICTON.
THEY HAVEN'T SAID IF HE'S KNOWN
TO POLICE.
THEY HAVE CHARGED HIM WITH FOUR
COUNTS OF FIRST-DEGREE MURDER
AND THEY SAY HE'S IN SERIOUS BUT
STABLE
CONDITION AFTER BEING SHOT BY
POLICE.
>> Adrienne: SO THAT'S THE
OFFICIAL WORD FROM POLICE.
HAVE WE BEEN ABLE
TO CONFIRM ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT
HIM?
>> Reporter: MOST OF WHAT WE
KNOW ABOUT RAYMOND SO FAR COMES
FROM JUDITH AGUILAR.
SHE'S THE OFFICE MANAGER FOR
THE BUILDING COMPLEX
WHERE RAYMOND LIVED WHICH IS
ALSO WHERE THE SHOOTING TOOK
PLACE.
SHE SAYS THAT HE LIVED THERE FOR
FOUR MONTHS AND AS FAR AS SHE
KNOWS THAT HE WAS LIVING THERE
ALONE.
HE WOULD COME INTO HER OFFICE TO
PAY HIS RENT IN PERSON.
WHEN HE DID THAT HE SEEMED VERY
PLEASANT AND FRIENDLY AND MAKING
SMALL TALK.
SHE CALLED HIM UTTERLY NORMAL
AND SAID HE DID NOT SEEM LIKE A
DISTURBED INDIVIDUAL IN ANY WAY.
>> Adrienne: THERE'S ALWAYS SO
MUCH MORE TO THIS.
IS IT ODD IN A WAY THAT THERE
ISN'T MORE INFORMATION AT THIS
POINT?
>> Reporter: IT IS.
AND IT'S PARTIALLY BECAUSE AS
FAR AS WE CAN DETERMINE RAYMOND
HAS NO ONLINE FOOTPRINT AND SO
NO FACEBOOK AND NO INSTAGRAM OR
NO TWITTER THAT WE CAN FIND.
WE ALSO HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DIG
UP A PHOTO OF HIM
THAT WE CAN CONFIRM FOR SURE IS
HIM.
THAT MEANS THE ONLY PHYSICAL
DESCRIPTION OF HIM ALSO COMES
FROM THAT BUILDING MANAGER.
SHE SAYS THAT HE'S IN GOOD
SHAPE, THAT HE CYCLED EVERYWHERE
HE WENT.
WHEN HE CAME INTO HER OFFICE HE
WOULD BE WEARING HIS HELMET AND
SUNGLASSES AND ACTUALLY SEEMED
QUITE PROUD OF HIS BICYCLE,
TELLING HER HOW EXPENSIVE IT
WAS.
I SHOULD MENTION, ADRIENNE, THAT
POLICE STILL HAVEN'T
CONFIRMED WHETHER THERE'S ANY
CONNECTION BETWEEN THE SUSPECT
AND THE VICTIMS.
>> Adrienne: THAT'S THE BIG
QUESTION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO AS YOU HEARD HERE, NOT MANY
ANSWERS ABOUT THE SUSPECT YET
WHICH
FRUSTRATES MANY PEOPLE HERE IN
FREDERICTON.
POLICE HERE HAVE ASKED PEOPLE
NOT TO SPECULATE BUT THAT MIGHT
JUST BE TOUGH CONSIDERING THE
INFORMATION THEY HAVE RELEASED,
JUST SPARSE AND SOMETIMES
INCOMPLETE.
SO HERE'S WHAT REMAINS UNCLEAR
--
>> WE CAN CONFIRM THAT IT WAS A
LONG GUN THAT WAS USED.
THE SHOOTER WAS IN AN ELEVATED
POSITION.
>> Adrienne: A LONG GUN.
THAT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM A
HUNTING RIFLE TO A SHOTGUN, EVEN
AN ASSAULT RIFLE.
AND SO WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
WAS IT LEGALLY OBTAINED?
AND HOW DID HE LEARN TO SHOOT IT
ACCURATELY FROM AN UPSTAIRS
APARTMENT TO THE COURTYARD
BELOW?
WE KNOW THAT IN VERY GENERAL
TERMS HOW EVENTS PLAYED OUT.
BUT WHEN DID THE OFFICERS
ARRIVE?
WERE THEY IMMEDIATELY TARGETED?
WERE THEY WEARING FULL BALLISTIC
VESTS?
WHAT OTHER PROTECTIONS DID THEY
HAVE?
AND THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION SO
MANY ARE GRAPPLING WITH TONIGHT
-- THE MOTIVE.
WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?
IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THE
SUSPECT, MATTHEW VINCENT
RAYMOND, WAS KNOWN TO POLICE
HERE.
IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT HE KNEW
THE VICTIMS EITHER, SO WHAT
MOTIVATED THE SHOOTING?
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER
INFORMATION AT THIS TIME TO
SHARE ABOUT THE SUSPECT, BUT AS
SOON AS WE HAVE INFORMATION TO
SHARE, WE WILL.
>> Adrienne: NO CLEAR ANSWERS.
NOT YET.
MEANWHILE PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN
TRUDEAU WAS IN FREDERICTON TODAY
OFFERING CONDOLENCES TO FIRST
RESPONDERS AFFECTED BY THE
SHOOTING.
HE ALSO MET PRIVATELY WITH THE
FAMILIES OF THE TWO OFFICERS WHO
WERE KILLED.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: I TALKED TO THEIR KIDS
AND HIGHLIGHTED THAT SOMETHING
THAT I HAD EXPERIENCED WAS THAT
WHEN YOU HAVE A WHOLE COMMUNITY,
INDEED A WHOLE COUNTRY,
SUPPORTING YOU THROUGH TERRIBLE
GRIEF THAT IT ACTUALLY DOES MAKE
IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER, NOT MUCH
EASIER, BUT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
AND TO DRAW STRENGTH ON THIS
EXTRAORDINARY COMMUNITY THAT HAS
COME OUT AND SUPPORTED THROUGH
ACTIONS, THROUGH WORDS, AND WILL
BE THERE TO SUPPORT THEM THROUGH
THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS AND
YEARS.
>> Adrienne: SO AFTERWARDS
JUSTIN TRUDEAU LAID FLOWERS
RIGHT HERE AT THE GROWING
MEMORIAL OUTSIDE OF THE POLICE
STATION.
HIS VISIT TO THE CITY WAS
SCHEDULED LONG BEFORE THE
SHOOTING TOOK PLACE FOR
FREDERICTON'S PRIDE
CELEBRATIONS.
AND THEY WENT AHEAD TODAY.
AS BRETT RUSKIN TELLS US, THE
PARADE BECAME A MUCH-NEEDED
CHANCE TO MOVE PAST THE ANGUISH
AND TRY TO START THE HEALING.
>> WOO!
>> Reporter: AMID THE OUTFITS
AND DANCERS THE BIGGEST CHEERS
TODAY WERE FOR THE POLICE
OFFICERS IN THE PARADE.
AMONG THOSE OFFICERS WAS
CONSTABLE JOHN DALY, BUT HE HAD
DOUBTS ABOUT TAKING PART.
>> I HAD DIFFICULTIES WITH THE
CONCEPT OF A PARADE TODAY.
HOW CAN I MARCH, HOW CAN I
PARADE?
AND MY WIFE, GOD BLESS HER, SHE
TOLD ME, SHE SAID, JOHN, IT'S
DAYS LIKE THIS THAT YOU MUST
PARADE.
>> Reporter: WITH SOME SUPPORT
HE DECIDED TO MARCH AND HE DID
SO WEARING THE BLACK AND BLUE
RIBBON.
ONE THAT HE'S WORN BEFORE TO
HONOUR OTHER OFFICERS KILLED IN
THE LINE OF DUTY.
>> IT HITS ME SO DEEPLY THAT
IT'S DIFFICULT TO EXPRESS IT.
>> Reporter: ALSO MARCHING
TODAY WAS RETIRED RCMP INSPECTOR
MICHELLE MARTIN.
>> THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, PUTTING OFF OR
POSTPONING THE PARADE BUT WE GOT
TOGETHER AND THOUGHT THAT WOULD
BE A REALLY GOOD WAY OF -- OF
COMMEMORATING IT FOR THE FALLEN
OFFICERS.
>> Reporter: MIXING THE
COMMEMORATION WITH THE SPIRIT OF
PRIDE SEEMED TO BE HELPING.
>> I THINK THAT IT'S NEEDED FOR
HEALING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
>> RATHER THAN STAYING AT HOME
AND WATCHING EVENTS ON TV I
WOULD RATHER BE HERE WHERE WE'RE
ALL FEELING THE DISREST FROM
FRIDAY BUT THIS IS UPLIFTING.
>> IT'S CERTAINLY HEARTBREAKING
BUT OUR LIVES GO ON AND WE'RE
NOT GOING TO BE STOPPED BY
FOOLISH ACTS OF ONE PERSON.
>> Reporter: HORRIBLE ACTS
THAT LEFT FOUR PEOPLE DEAD.
SO WHILE TODAY'S MOOD WAS ONE OF
CELEBRATION, THERE'S STILL A
LONG ROAD TO WALK BEFORE THE
CITY'S WOUNDS ARE HEALED.
BRETT RUSKIN, CBC NEWS,
FREDERICTON.
>> Adrienne: AND, ROSIE, WE'LL
HAVE MORE FROM FREDERICTON THIS
EVENING.
AND THERE'S A SPECIAL TRIBUTE
FOR THE OFFICERS LATER IN THE
HOUR BUT NOW YOU HAVE THE DAY'S
OTHER TOP STORIES.
>> Rosemary: A YEAR AFTER THE
SHOCKING
VIOLENCE AND HATE IN
CHARLOTTESVILLE, WHITE
NATIONALISTS FOUND THEMSELVES
SEVERELY OUTNUMBERED AT THEIR
OWN EVENT IN WASHINGTON.
ABOUT TWO DOZEN PEOPLE SHOWED UP
TO WHAT THEY HAD BILLED AS A
"UNITE THE RIGHT" RALLY.
THEY WERE LED BY THIS MAN, JASON
KESSLER, WHO ALSO ORGANIZED LAST
YEAR'S EVENT IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.
THAT RALLY CLAIMED THE LIFE OF
ANTI-RACISM PROTESTER HEATHER
HYER AND STOKED RACIAL TENSION.
AS THOMAS DAIGLE REPORTS, TODAY
THE TURNOUT IN THE U.S. CAPITAL
WAS DECIDEDLY ONE-SIDED.
>> NO K.K.K., NO FASCISM IN THE
U.S.A.
>> Reporter: WASHINGTON'S
STREETS SPRANG UP AS IF JOLTED
TO LIFE BY THE THREAT OF RACISTS
INVADING THIS CITY.
THEY WOULD HAVE NONE OF IT.
>> WE ARE NOT!
>> Reporter: POLICE THOUGH HAD
NO CHOICE.
UNDER ORDERS TO KEEP WHITE
NATIONALISTS SAFE AS THEY HEADED
TO THEIR RALLY.
>> TO GET YOUR MESSAGE ACROSS
YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE ASSOCIATING
WITH NEO-NAZIS TODAY?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
SURE, THEY'VE BEEN MALIGNED IN
THE MEDIA, BUT WE'RE NOT THE
NAZIS OF THE 1930s.
>> THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS
LIKE!
>> Reporter: A FEW BLOCKS AWAY
COUNTERPROTESTERS CAME IN FAR
BIGGER NUMBERS, CHANTING LOUDER.
>> FOR ME IT SAID THAT WE ALL
HAVE TO COME OUT AND DO THIS
KIND OF THING.
I MEAN, THIS IS 2018.
>> Reporter: THIS CROWD, EAGER
TO SHOW AMERICANS OPPOSE RACISM.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE MAN AT
THE TOP THEY SAY PROMOTES IT.
>> I THINK THEY FEEL AT HOME
BECAUSE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT
WHITE SUPREMACY IS SOMETHING NEW
TO TRUMP.
>> Reporter: WHAT MESSAGE DOES
IT SEND TO HAVE A WHITE
SUPREMACISTS RALLYING ACROSS THE
STREET FROM THE WHITE HOUSE?
>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
THEY KIND OF GO TOGETHER, DON'T
THEY, RIGHT NOW.
>> Reporter: SURE, THIS RALLY
HAD A LIGHTER TONE BUT SOME WERE
IN NO MOOD FOR LAUGHS.
THE MASKS AND BANDANAS A SIGN
THAT THERE WAS TROUBLE BREWING.
ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE WHITE
HOUSE THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS
MARCHED IN, ONLY ABOUT 20 OF
THEM.
THEY EXPECTED UP TO 400.
>> OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IN A
PERFECT
WORLD EVERYBODY WOULD ARRIVE ON
TIME.
>> Reporter: EXCEPT THEIR BIG
CROWD NEVER CAME.
>> HOLD THE LINE!
>> Reporter: LEAVING THOSE
MASKED TROUBLEMAKERS TO LET OUT
THEIR ANGER IN THE RAIN WITH NO
ONE TO FIGHT BUT THE POLICE.
IN THE END ALL WENT HOME EARLY.
IT WAS WITHOUT LAST YEAR'S
VIOLENCE.
THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
>> Rosemary: LET'S TURN NOW TO
CALGARY AND THE INVESTIGATION
INTO THE DEATH OF A NIGERIAN MAN
AT THE CALGARY AIRPORT.
HE'S BEING REMEMBERED TONIGHT AS
A DEDICATED CHURCH-GOER WITH A
BIG HEART WHO WANTED TO BUILD A
LIFE IN CANADA.
HE DIED THOUGH AFTER AN
ALTERCATION WITH BORDER OFFICERS
AS HE WAS BEING DEPORTED.
TODAY CAROLYN DUNN SPOKE TO A
FEW OF THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW HIM
WELL.
>> Reporter: EVERY SUNDAY
PEOPLE COME TO WORSHIP AT THE
EVANGEL
CALGARY CHURCH.
TODAY A SPECIAL PRAY FOR
THE WIDOW AND SONS OF A FELLOW
CHURCH-GOER.
>> WE PRAY FOR A PEACE THAT
PASSES UNDERSTANDING.
>> Reporter: TO HIS CHURCH
FAMILY, BOLANTE ALO WAS THE GUY
ALWAYS
READY TO LEND A HAND.
HE SANG IN THE CHOIR AND
ATTENDED PRAYER MEETINGS.
HIS FRIEND, OYINDA UNUIGBE, SAYS
THAT HE WAS SO
COMMITTED TO THIS COUNTRY THAT
HE PRAYED FOR CANADA WITH A
GROUP OF MEN EVERY MORNING FOR
SIX MONTHS.
>> AND HE WOULD WAKE UP AT 5:00
a.m. IN THE MORNING TO PRAY FOR
A FEW HOURS BEFORE HE WENT OUT
TO WORK.
>> Reporter: ALO WORKED AS A
TAXI DRIVER AND WAS TRYING TO
OBTAIN A TRUCK DRIVER'S LICENCE.
HE LIVED IN CANADA FOR 12 YEARS
BUT ALL HIS IMMIGRATION
APPLICATIONS WERE REJECTED.
AT HIS DETENTION HEARING HE
BEGGED TO STAY, CLAIMING "I AM A
DEAD MAN.
I HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.
AND I STILL HAVE SOME BULLETS IN
MY BODY" FROM HIS LIFE IN
NIGERIA.
ALO SAID HE WOULD DISRUPT HIS
DEPORTATION AND
AUTHORITIES CONSIDERED THAT A
THREAT OF VIOLENCE SO THEY KEPT
HIM IN CUSTODY UNTIL HIS REMOVAL
LAST TUESDAY.
THAT'S WHEN BOLA ALO WAS
INVOLVED IN AN
ALTERCATION WITH TWO BORDER
SERVICE OFFICERS ON
BOARD A KLM FLIGHT FROM CALGARY
TO AMSTERDAM.
HE WENT INTO MEDICAL DISTRESS
AND DIED HADN'T.
-- DIED IN HOSPITAL.
NOW HIS FRIEND IS REPRESENTING
ALO'S FAMILY TO GET ANSWERS.
>> WHAT HAPPENED IN DETENTION?
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY PUT HIM
ON THAT PLANE?
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN HE DIED?
>> Reporter: ALO'S PASTOR, BOB
WEBSTER, IS LEFT WONDERING IF
THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN
DIFFERENT.
>> I WISH I HAD KNOWN THAT HE
WAS BEING DEPORTED AND WE COULD
HAVE TALKED TO HIM A BIT ABOUT
THAT.
IT MAY HAVE HELPED.
>> Reporter: THE CALGARY
POLICE SERVICE IS INVESTIGATING
BOLA ALO'S DEATH WHILE HIS
CHURCH
COMMUNITY GOES ABOUT PLANNING A
SERVICE IN HIS MEMORY.
CAROLYN DUNN, CBC NEWS, CALGARY.
>> Adrienne: WE'LL BE BACK
WITH MORE SPECIAL COVERAGE FROM
FREDERICTON.
THIS MAY BE A SMALL CITY BUT THE
OUTPOURING OF LOVE AND SUPPORT
HERE THIS WEEKEND HAS BEEN HUGE.
COMPLETE STRANGERS MOVED BY THIS
TRAGEDY CONTINUE TO ADD TO THIS
MEMORIAL.
THE TRIBUTES FOR FREDERICTON A
LITTLE LATER ON "THE NATIONAL."
>> Rosemary: FIRST THOUGH "THE
NATIONAL" INTERVIEW WITH GLORIA
ALLRED, THE CRUSADING LAWYER AT
THE CENTRE OF THE "ME TOO"
MOVEMENT.
>>> AND THE TROUBLING QUESTIONS
OF AIRPORT SECURITY AND
SCREENING AFTER A MAN STOLE A
PLANE AND DELIBERATELY CRASHED
IT IN THE U.S.
>> I THINK I'M GOING TO DO A
BARREL ROLL.
AND IF THAT GOES GOOD AND I'M
JUST GOING NOSE DOWN AND CALL IT
A NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: QUESTIONS TONIGHT
ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AFTER AN
AIRLINE EMPLOYEE STOLE A PLANE
ON FRIDAY AND CRASHED IT.
>> I WAS JUST SHOCKED TO SEE
THAT SOMEONE WHO WAS SO NICE AND
SO HELPFUL AND CARING, ACTUALLY,
ALL OF A SUDDEN SNAPS LIKE THAT.
>> Rosemary: IN A POST 9/11
WORLD AN UNLICENSED PILOT IN A
STOLEN PLANE CONJURES UP
HORRIFYING POSSIBILITIES.
BUT HIS OWN WORDS FROM THE
COCKPIT RADIO DIDN'T SUGGEST
EXTREMISM SO MUCH AS A MAN WHO
WAS COMING APART.
OUR KATIE NICHOLSON LOOKS AT THE
IMPLICATION.
>> Reporter: SCOOPING DOWN
THROUGH THE EVENING SKY IT
SEEMED LIKE A JOY RYDE.
THE F-15 IS TRACKING HIS EVERY
MOVE IS TELLING A DIFFERENT
STORY.
>> HEY, PILOT GUY!
CAN THIS THING DO A BACK-FLIP
YOU THINK?
>> Reporter: IN THE COCKPIT IS
29-YEAR-OLD RICHARD RUSSELL, AND
HE WAS THE GROUND CREW WORKER
WHO SOMEHOW SWIPED THIS Q-400
FROM THE TARMAC AND TAKE IT INTO
THE SEATTLE SKIES.
>> I THINK I'M GOING TO DO A
BARREL ROLL.
AND IF THAT GOES GOOD I'M JUST
GOING NOSE DOWN AND CALL IT A
NIGHT.
>> Reporter: AFTER ROUGHLY AN
HOUR IN AN APPARENT SUICIDE,
RUSSELL CRASHED THE OTHERWISE
EMPTY PROP PLANE INTO THE
SPARSELY POPULATED ISLAND OF THE
PUGET SOUND.
>> WE ARE STUNNED AND
HEARTBROKEN.
IT MAY SEEM DIFFICULT FOR THOSE
WATCHING AT HOME TO BELIEVE BUT
BIBO WAS A WARM AND
COMPASSIONATE MAN.
>> Reporter: QUESTIONS ARE
MOUNTING AS TO HOW THIS COULD
POSSIBLY HAPPEN.
>> TO OUR KNOWLEDGE HE DIDN'T
HAVE A PILOT'S LICENCE.
>> Reporter: SO HOW WAS HE
ABLE TO FLY A PLANE?
>> I PLAYED VIDEO GAMES BEFORE
SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT I'M
DOING A LITTLE BIT.
>> Reporter: VETERAN PILOT
DOUG MOSS SAYS THAT COULD BE
TRUE.
>> ANYONE WITH EXPERIENCE IN
MICROSOFT FLIGHT SIMULATOR OR
EVEN VIDEO GAMES SHOULD HAVE
ENOUGH SKILL TO BASICALLY FLY
THE AIRPLANE.
>> THIS IS HOW WE SAW THE
ENGINES.
SET BOTH IGNITION SYSTEMS TO
NORMAL.
>> Reporter: POPULAR VIDEO
GAMES LIKE THIS ONE OFFER
STEP-BY-STEP TUTORIALS WITH
MINUTE DETAILS FROM THE FLIGHT
DECK.
THE INCIDENT ALSO RAISES GRAVE
QUESTIONS ABOUT AIRPORT
SECURITY.
EARLY INDICATIONS ARE THAT
RUSSELL HAD NO RED FLAGS.
HE PASSED ALL OF HIS BACKGROUND
CHECKS AND HAD BEEN WORKING FOR
THE AIRLINE FOR THREE YEARS.
>> I THINK THAT THE REAL ISSUE
HERE IS MENTAL HEALTH AND WHAT
KIND OF POLICIES, PROCEDURES,
DOES THE AIRLINE HAVE FOR
RECOGNISING MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES.
>> Reporter: ALASKA AIRLINES
SAYS IT OFFERS AN EMPLOYEE
ASSISTANCE PROGRAMME TO ALL OF
ITS EMPLOYEES, 24/7.
IT'S NOT KNOWN IF RICHARD
RUSSELL EVER TRIED TO ACCESS
THAT PROGRAMME BEFORE FRIDAY'S
FATAL FLIGHT.
KATIE NICHOLSON, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Rosemary: NOW THAT Q-400 IS
MADE BY BOMBARDIER.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW IT MORE
COMMONLY AS THE DASH 8.
IT'S WIDELY USED IN THIS COUNTRY
FOR SHORTER REGIONAL FLIGHTS.
IT HOLDS A CREW OF FOUR AND 76
PASSENGERS.
THERE ARE SOME DESIGN FEATURES
WHICH WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO
STEAL THAN A LARGER JET CRAFT.
THE HATCH CONTAINS ITS OWN
STAIRCASE SO YOU WOULDN'T NEED A
SEPARATE ONE TO GAIN ENTRY.
AND LARGER CRAFT REQUIRE A TOW
TO GET INTO TAKEOFF POSITION AND
THAT WOULDN'T THE CASE FOR THE
SMALLER AND MORE AGILE Q-400.
>> Adrienne: AHEAD TONIGHT ON
"THE NATIONAL"... WE'LL BRING
YOU BACK TO FREDERICTON.
THE SMALL GESTURES HERE THAT ARE
A SHOW OF STRENGTH AND
RESILIENCE IN THE WAKE OF
FRIDAY'S HORROR.
>> Rosemary: AND MY
CONVERSATION WITH GLORIA ALLRED
A LAWYER AND FIERCE CHAMPION FOR
WOMEN.
THAT'S NEXT ON "THE NATIONAL."
(*)
>> IT TOOK A GREAT DEAL OF
COURAGE.
IN THE BEGINNING MANY WERE NOT
BELIEVED.
>> Rosemary: A CRUSADER FOR
WOMEN'S RIGHTS, AN ADVOCATE FOR
JUSTICE AND EQUALITY, GLORIA
ALLRED'S LEGAL CAREER HAS
SPANNED MORE THAN FOUR DECADES
AND DURING THAT TIME SHE'S MADE
HEAR MARK, REPRESENTING
COUNTLESS CLIENTS IN
HIGH-PROFILE CASE AGAINST SOME
OF THE WORLD'S MOST POWERFUL
MEN.
BACK IN JUNE I MET WITH ALLRED
AT HER OFFICE IN LOS ANGELES
WHERE MANY OF
THOSE RECKONINGS BEGIN AND ARE
GIVEN A VOICE.
IN THIS ERA OF "ME TOO," ALLRED
HAS HER OWN STORY.
LET'S REVISIT THAT DEFINING
MOMENT THAT MADE HER A FIERCE
CHAMPION FOR WOMEN.
>> THERE IS BREAKING NEWS.
>> A PENNSYLVANIA JURY HAS
CONVICTED BILL COSBY...
>> BILL COSBY IS GUILTY ON ALL
COUNTS.
>> WE DON'T GET ANYTHING FOR
WOMEN, WE DON'T ACHIEVE
ANYTHING, UNLESS
WE ARE POWERFUL AND UNDERSTAND
OUR OWN POWER.
BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALLY TOUGH.
>> I WANT TO SHOW OUR VIEWERS
SOME DRAMATIC VIDEO THAT WE JUST
GOT IN.
>> ALREADY THE FIRST GUILTY
VERDICT, SEVERAL OF COSBY'S
ALLEGED PRIOR VICTIMS CHICKED
AND SHOOK WITH JOY.
>> YOU GOT A GUILTY VERDICT,
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> WE HAVE A TSUNAMI, BABY!
>> I WILL GO AWAY WHEN THERE'S
JUSTICE FOR MY CLIENT.
BUT UNTIL THERE'S JUSTICE...
>> GLORIA!
>> GLORIA!
>> I WILL BE RELENTLESS IN THE
PURSUIT OF JUSTICE.
BECAUSE THEY DESERVE IT.
WOMEN WERE FINALLY BELIEVED AND
WE THANK THE JURY SO MUCH FOR
THAT.
BILL COSBY, THREE WORDS FOR YOU
-- GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY!
THANK YOU.
(*)
>> LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET YOU
IN...
>> Rosemary: HELLO.
>> HOW ARE YOU?
VERY NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> Rosemary: VERY NICE TO MEET
YOU, MISS ALLRED, YOU WILL BE
RIGHT HERE.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
>> WE WILL NOW BRING IN ATTORNEY
GLORIA ALLRED, SHE REPRESENTS 29
WOMEN...
>> DID GIVE QUAALUDES TO SOME
WOMEN WITH THE INTENT TO HAVE
SEX.
>> NOT BY A TWEET IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE NIGHT IN A BEDROOM
IN THE WHITE HOUSE...
>> Rosemary: THERE'S LOTS OF
THINGS THAT THE CRITICS SAY
ABOUT YOU.
SELF-PROMOTER, GRANDSTANDER AND
MEDIA MANIPULATOR.
SENSATIONALIST.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE TRY
TO LABEL YOU THAT WAY?
>> WELL, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE
WHO WOULD LIKE WOMEN TO BE
SILENT AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY
DISTURBED BY THE FACT THAT I
HELP INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT
CELEBRITIES WHO ALLEGE THAT THEY
HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED BY
CELEBRITIES TO BE HEARD.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE
THAT.
BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THEY MAY
THINK THAT ONLY CELEBRITIES
MATTER.
AND MAYBE THEY JUST LIKE THE
SOUND OF MEN'S VOICES, I DON'T
KNOW.
OR MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER
REASON.
BUT WOMEN'S VOICES MATTER.
>> 5, 4, 3,... GOOD?
>> WE HAVE TWO WOMEN, GLORIA
ALLRED AND HER DAUGHTER, WHO
HAVE CREATED THIS CAMPAIGN, THIS
SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST BILL
COSBY...
>> A BETTER QUESTION FOR YOU,
DAVE, WHAT DID GLORIA
ALLRED PROMISE THESE WOMEN?
>> MISS ALLRED WHAT ABOUT THE
BAR CLAIMS, THAT YOU'RE FACING
RIGHT NOW IN CALIFORNIA.
ADDRESS THEM.
>> I AM NOT FACING ANY BAR
INVESTIGATIONS WHATSOEVER.
>> YOU ARE NOT?
>> NO.
>> Rosemary: I FELT LIKE YOU
LIKED THOSE MOMENTS AND YOU LIVE
A LITTLE BIT FOR THOSE MOMENTS.
YOU OBVIOUSLY LIKE DEBATING.
YOU LIKE THAT BACK AND FORTH.
>> I'M NOT ADVERSE TO
CHALLENGING SOMEONE WHO IS AN
OPPONENT ON WHAT HE SAID.
>> EXPLAIN TO ME WHY DID YOU ASK
FOR $100 MILLION?
>> I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU ASKED ME
BUT YOU NEED TO LISTEN...
>> I BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO DO
NOT HAVE A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE TRUTH NEED TO BE
CHALLENGED BECAUSE TRUTH
MATTERS.
>> NOW WAIT A SECOND...
>> THANK YOU, GUYS.
>> YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THIS.
>> YOU COME TO MY PRESS COVERAGE
-- DID I INTERRUPT YOU?
DID I INTERRUPT YOU?
>> I'M NOT INTIMIDATED BY THEM.
I KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT AND I KNOW
WHAT THE TRUTH IS.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO STAND THERE
AND ALLOW ANY OF MY CLIENTS TO
BE DEFAMED OR TO BE DISCUSSED IN
A WAY THAT IS NOT TRUTHFUL.
>> Rosemary: IT'S SO TINY.
YOU CAN CRAM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
HERE.
AND YOU TYPICALLY SIT HERE AT
THIS END?
AND YOU DON'T SAY MUCH, YOU JUST
SIT THERE?
>> WELL, OFTEN THEY INSIST
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CRY, THEY
DON'T WANT TO CRY, THEY JUST
WANT TO SAY WHAT THEY HAVE TO
SAY.
BUT THEY OFTEN END UP CRYING.
>> Rosemary: SURE.
>> BECAUSE IT ALL COMES WELLING
OUT OF THEM.
>> I DID THE RIGHT THING FOR
ANDREA CONSTAND AND FOR MYSELF.
>> THIS BEHAVIOUR WAS LIKE THAT
OF A PREDATOR.
>> I WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK THE
TRUTH AND I REFUSE TO BE
INTIMIDATED INTO SILENCE.
>> HE LAID NEXT TO ME ON THE
BED...
>> Rosemary: THEY'RE IN FRONT
OF ALL OF THOSE CAMERAS, THE
WHOLE WORLD, RECOUNTING
UNPLEASANT, PAINFUL TRAUMATIC
THINGS.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT SO MANY OF
THEM DO THAT?
>> BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR
VOICES TO BE HEARD AND MANY
WOMEN HAVE DECIDED THEY DON'T
WISH TO SUFFER IN SILENCE.
AND THEY KNOW THE RISK.
AND THEY WERE WILLING TO TAKE
THE RISK.
>> Rosemary: I THINK THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE ASSOCIATE YOU WITH
CASES AGAINST CELEBRITIES.
AND THEY ASSUME THAT YOU'RE
MAKING TONNES OF MONEY AND
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE IN IT.
BUT WHEN YOU READ YOUR BOOK YOU
REALIZE THE BREADTH OF PEOPLE
THAT YOU HAVE REPRESENTED,
PEOPLE FROM FARM WORKERS TO
PROSTITUTES TO DRY CLEANING
PEOPLE, TO -- SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY
THAT ABOUT YOU, OH, YOU'RE IN IT
FOR YOU AND YOU'RE IN IT FOR
MONEY, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM?
>> I'M IN IT FOR JUSTICE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT MY
CLIENTS SHOULD HAVE TO CHOOSE
BETWEEN PRINCIPLES AND BEING
COMPENSATED FOR THE HARM THEY'VE
SUFFERED.
MEN DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT
CHOICE.
THEY CAN HAVE BOTH PRINCIPLES
AND THE MONEY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY APOLOGY TO MAKE
FOR THE FACT THAT WE ARE
SUCCESSFUL, THAT WE'VE WON
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
FOR VICTIMS AND WE INTEND TO
CONTINUE ON THAT PATH.
>> I'M ATTORNEY GLORIA ALLRED...
>> TODAY I'M ABLE TO CONFIRM
THAT I WILL ACT AS HER
ATTORNEY...
>> I AM AN ATTORNEY...
>> I'M HERE WITH TWO OF MY
CLIENTS --
>> THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.
>> Rosemary: CAN YOU DESCRIBE
THE EVENT THAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU
WENT TO MEXICO, THE THING THAT I
GUESS MUST HAVE CHANGED YOU IN
SOME WAY?
>> I MET A DOCTOR WHO ASKED ME
OUT ON A DATE.
AND I AGREED TO GO TO DINNER
WITH HIM.
AND HE SAID, WELL, FIRST IF YOU
DON'T MIND I NEED TO STOP AT THE
HOSPITAL AND SEE SOME PATIENTS,
MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING OKAY.
I SAID, FINE, I'LL GO WITH YOU.
AND SO WE DID.
AND THEN AFTER THAT HE SAID,
WELL, I HAVE ONE MORE STOP.
I HAVE SOME PATIENTS WHO ARE NO
LONGER IN THE HOSPITAL, THEY'RE
IN A HOTEL AND I NEED TO GO
THERE JUST TO CHECK ON THEM AND
SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING AS THEY'RE
RECUPERATING.
I SAID, OKAY.
AND HE OPENED THE DOOR AND I
WALKED INTO THE ROOM AND IT WAS
EMPTY AND I TURNED AROUND AND HE
HAD A GUN POINTED AT ME.
AND AFTER THAT HE RAPED ME.
AND I WAS IN COMPLETE SHOCK.
I STILL AM TO THIS DAY.
IN ANY EVENT, AFTER I LEFT
MEXICO AND THEN RETURNED TO THE
UNITED STATES THEN I BECAME
PREGNANT.
AND THEN I HAD A DECISION TO
MAKE.
AND ULTIMATELY I GOT AN
ABORTION.
IT WAS NOT A CRIME FOR ME TO
HAVE IT, BUT IT WAS A CRIME FOR
ANYONE TO PERFORM IT UPON ME.
I HEMORRHAGED AND I WENT TO THE
HOSPITAL AND I ALMOST DIED.
I HAD TO BE PACKED IN ICE, I HAD
A 106° FEVER.
AND THEN A NURSE SAID TO ME, I
HOPE THIS TEACHES YOU A LESSON.
I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT LESSON
SHE THOUGHT THAT SHE HOPED THAT
IT WOULD TEACH ME, BECAUSE THE
ONLY THING THAT I LEARNED FROM
IT IS THAT IT IS WRONG AND
DANGEROUS TO THE LIVES AND
HEALTH OF WOMEN FOR ABORTION TO
BE ILLEGAL, UNSAFE,
UNAFFORDABLE, UNAVAILABLE.
>> Rosemary: IS IT HARD FOR
YOU TO TELL THAT STORY?
YOU SAY YOU'RE STILL IN SHOCK
ABOUT IT.
>> MANY WOMEN FEARED TALKING
ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY HAD AN
ABORTION, THERE WAS A STIGMA.
BUT I FELT THAT I NEEDED TO BE
TRUTHFUL.
AND SO I SHARED THAT.
AND THAT WAS IT.
BECAUSE A WOMAN SHOULDN'T HAVE
TO BE ASHAMED.
>> I'M HERE TODAY WITH YET
ANOTHER VICTIM OF HARVEY
WEINSTEIN.
HER NAME IS NATASSIA MALTHE.
>> I WAS SITTING ON THE BED
TALKING TO HARVEY WHEN HE PUSHED
ME BACK AND FORCED HIMSELF ON TO
ME.
IT WAS NOT CONSENSUAL.
I LAID STILL AND I CLOSED MY
EYES AND JUST WANTED IT TO END.
I PLAYED DEAD.
I BELIEVED IN THE CINDERELLA
STORY.
I THOUGHT THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO
LOOK FOR THIS GUY THAT IS THE
PRINCE AND THEN BY THE AGE OF 26
I'LL HAVE BABIES WITH HIM AND
MARRY.
>> AND YOU'LL LIVE HAPPILY EVER
AFTER?
>> EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT.
>> BUT IT'S THE FAIRYTALE, IT'S
NOT THE REALITY.
WHAT WE SAY IN THE WOMEN'S
MOVEMENT IS THAT YOU NEED TO
BECOME THE PERSON THAT YOU
WANTED TO MARRY.
>> YEAH.
>> IF YOU WANTED TO MARRY
SOMEONE WHO WOULD TAKE CARE OF
YOU AND PROTECT YOU, YOU NEED TO
TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND
PROTECT YOURSELF.
FOR MANY OF MY CLIENTS, FOR
EXAMPLE, THEY'VE COME IN WITH
LITTLE GIRLS VOICES THAT ARE
JUST KIND OF TRAPPED IN THERE
AND THEY'RE ADULT WOMEN.
AND ONCE THEY BECOME EMPOWERED
THEY LEARN THEIR RIGHTS, THEY
LEARN HOW TO ASSERT THEIR
RIGHTS, AND THEY BECOME
VINDICATED WHEN THEY HAVE
ASSERTED THEIR RIGHTS AND
THEY'RE REWARDED FOR ASSERTING
THEIR RIGHTS AND SOMETIMES THAT
LITTLE GIRL VOICE TURNS INTO A
FULL ADULT WOMAN'S VOICE.
>> Rosemary: WE NOW HAVE
HARVEY WEINSTEIN, I KNOW THAT
YOU'RE REPRESENTING ONE OF HIS
ACCUSERS.
BILL COSBY AND KEVIN SPACEY.
I MEAN THE LIST IS LONGER THAN
WE COULD HAVE IMAGINED.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED DO YOU THINK
THAT THIS HAS ALL STARTED TO
UNFOLD IN THIS WAY?
>> WELL, WOMEN HAVE JUST BEEN
SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND
TIRED OF BEING SILENCED.
AND THEY'VE DECIDED THEY WANT TO
SPEAK OUT.
AND THEY ARE FEELING THAT IF I
SPEAK OUT IT MIGHT HELP OTHER
WOMEN.
THERE MAY BE OTHER
VICTIMS OF THAT SAME PERPETRATOR
AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND WANTING
ACCOUNTABILITY FROM PERPETRATORS
OF RAPE OR SEXUAL ASSAULT OR
SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS CONTAGIOUS.
>> Rosemary: IS YOUR WORK EVER
OVER?
>> NO.
IT WILL NEVER BE OVER IN MY
LIFETIME BECAUSE WOMEN ARE NOT
EQUAL YET WITH MEN.
WE'RE NOT THERE POLITICALLY,
ECONOMICALLY, SOCIALLY, LEGALLY.
WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.
THE FIGHT HAS JUST BEGUN.
>> Rosemary: NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL" A CENTURIES OLD FAMILY
TRADITION HAVE BROP BROUGHT IN
THE FAITHFUL IN
JERUSALEM'S OLD CITY.
>> FOR A LOT OF PILGRIMS THEIR
VISIT TO THE HOLY LAND CHANGES
THEM IN A WAY AND LEAVES A MARK
ON THEIR SOUL THAT THEY WANT TO
LEAVE A MARK ON THEIR BODY AS
WELL.
(*)
(*)
(*)
>> THERE LIKELY WILL STILL BE
SOME CHALLENGING DAYS AHEAD OF
US.
>> Rosemary: ON "THE NATIONAL"
TONIGHT WE'RE WATCHING THE
WORSENING WILDFIRE SITUATION IN
B.C.
145 NEW FIRES STARTED JUST
YESTERDAY, MANY OF THEM CAUSED
BY LIGHTNING.
THAT BRINGS THE TOTAL ACROSS THE
PROVINCE TO NEARLY 600.
THOUSANDS IN B.C.'S NORTHWEST
ARE NOW ON ALERT, READY TO
EVACUATE AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE.
WHILE THE CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED TO REMAIN SUNNY AND DRY
THIS WEEK, THE TEMPERATURES
SHOULD COOL SLIGHTLY.
>>> THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE
UNITED STATES UNDER THE
DIRECTION OF THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES, THREATENING
ME ON DAMAGE TO MY REPUTATION.
AND THINGS GETTING UGLY FOR ME.
THAT'S DOWNRIGHT CRIMINAL.
>> Rosemary: WELL, THAT'S
FORMER WHITE HOUSE AIDE OMAROSA.
SHE RELEASED A SECRET RECORDING
TODAY OF HER FIRING BY CHIEF OF
STAFF
JOHN KELLY.
SHE WAS ON "MEET THE PRESS" AND
SHE RECORDED THAT CONVERSATION
FOR HER OWN PROTECTION WHILE SHE
WAS IN THE HIGH SECURITY
SITUATION ROOM.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND
THAT IF WE MAKE THIS A FRIENDLY
DEPARTURE WE CAN ALL BE, YOU
KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR TIME
HERE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AS A
YEAR OF SERVICE TO THE NATION.
>> Rosemary: OMAROSA STOOD BY
HER CLAIM THAT SHE ONCE HEARD A
RECORDING OF DONALD TRUMP USING
THE "N" WORD.
HER NEW BOOK, BECAUSE THAT'S
WHAT THIS IS ALL "UNHINGED" WILL
COME OUT ON TUESDAY.
WELL, FOR PEOPLE OF FAITH IT CAN
BE SO INTENSE THAT SOME WANT TO
CAPTURE IT FOREVER.
DEREK STOFFEL FOUND A FAMILY
THAT HAS BEEN IN THE BUSINESS
FOR CENTURIES AND THIS IS A
VISUAL TREAT IN TONIGHT'S
DISPATCH FROM JERUSALEM.
>> Reporter: THE FAITHFUL
FLOCK TO THE HOLY CITY FROM
AROUND THE WORLD.
(*)
CHRISTIANS, JEWS, MUSLIMS COME
TO THE OLD CITY, HOME TO SOME OF
THE MOST REVERED RELIGIOUS SITES
ON THE PLANET.
MANY SEARCH FOR THE PERFECT
KEEPSAKE TO REMEMBER THEIR
PILGRIMAGE.
BUT FOR SOME A TRINKET SIMPLY
WON'T DO.
SO THEY WANDER DOWN AN ALLEY IN
THE OLD CITY LOOKING FOR
SOMETHING MORE INDELIBLE.
>> WE CAN BUY SOMETHING AND PUT
IT UP ON THE SHELF BUT TO HAVE
SOMETHING ALWAYS WITH YOU, ON
YOUR BODY, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY
POWERFUL.
>> Reporter: THIS COUPLE FROM
INDIANA ENDED THEIR JOURNEY TO
THE HOLY LAND AT THIS TATTOO
SHOP.
THEIR TATTOOS WERE DONE BY
WASSIM RAZZOUK.
>> FOR A LOT OF PILGRIMS THEIR
VISIT TO THE HOLY LAND CHANGES
THEM IN A WAY AND LEAVES A MARK
ON THEIR SOUL THAT THEY WANT TO
LEAVE A MARK ON THEIR BODY AS
WELL TO REMIND THEM AS WELL AS
TO SHOW TO OTHERS THAT THEY HAVE
DONE THE PILGRIMAGE.
>> Reporter: RAZZOUK HAS
INHERITED THE FAMILY BUSINESS.
HIS ANCESTORS HAVE BEEN
TATTOOING THE FAITHFUL FOR 700
YEARS NOW.
THE LAST FIVE CENTURIES HERE IN
JERUSALEM, THE 200 YEARS BEFORE
THAT IN EGYPT.
>> WOW.
>> Reporter: CLIENTS WITH
-- CAN CHOOSE WHATEVER DESIGN
THEY WANT
BUT MOST REQUEST PATTERNS THAT
THE FAMILY CAME UP WITH
GENERATIONS AGO.
>> THIS ONE COMES FROM THE STAMP
THAT WE HAVE THAT IS 500 YEARS
OLD.
PEOPLE LOVE IT.
>> Reporter: THIS ONE ON
WASSIM'S ARM, THE JERUSALEM
CROSS, IS ONE OF THE MOST
POPULAR.
>> WE HAVE CHANGED, OF COURSE,
OUR METHOD AND OUR TOOLS,
HOWEVER, THE DESIGNS THAT WE
USE, WE STILL HAVE THE OLD
DESIGNS, HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD
DESIGNS THAT ARE CARVED IN
WOODEN BLOCKS THAT HAVE BEEN IN
OUR FAMILY FOR HUNDREDS OF
YEARS.
>> Reporter: THE RAZZOUK'S ARE
COPTIC CHRISTIANS, THE SECT THAT
IS PREVALENT IN EGYPT HAS A
TRADITION OF TATTOOING CHILDREN
WITH A CROSS.
BUT THE COPTIC COMMUNITY HAS
RECENTLY BEEN TARGETED BY
ISLAMIST EXTREMISTS AND IT'S
THOUGHT THAT SOME HAVE EVEN BEEN
ATTACKED AFTER THE MILITANTS
RECOGNISED THEIR TATTOOS.
KAREN ANDREWS FROM INDIANA SAYS
THAT ONE REASON SHE GOT HER
TATTOO IS TO STAND WITH THE
COPTS WHO HAVE BEEN PERSECUTED
FOR THEIR FAITH.
>> I HAVE JESUS' MARK ON ME AND
I WILL STAND AND NOT BE ASHAMED
THAT'S WHO I.
-- WHO I AM.
IF THAT MEANS MY LIFE, IT MEANS
MY LIFE, BECAUSE HE GAVE HIS FOR
ME AND I JUST FEEL SO STRONGLY
AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.
>> Reporter: FOR DAUGHTER,
JAMIE, THIS WAS AN EXPERIENCE OF
A LIFETIME.
>> ON THE SURFACE IT'S JUST A
MEMORY OF THIS EXPERIENCE THAT
WE'VE HAD TOGETHER.
I CAN ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS.
IF SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN TO
ONE OF US WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE
THAT MEMORY.
>> Reporter: THE METHODS ARE
MORE MODERN THESE DAYS BUT THE
RAZZOUKS VOW TO CONTINUE WITH
THEIR TRADITION OF INKING
MEMORIES FOR PILGRIMS FROM
AROUND THE WORLD.
DEREK STOFFEL, CBC NEWS,
JERUSALEM.
>> Adrienne: NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL" I'LL BE BACK FROM
FREDERICTON WITH TONIGHT'S
"MOMENT."
ONE BOY'S TRIBUTE TO THE FOUR
LIVES LOST HERE ON FRIDAY.
(*)
* THAT NIGHT PEOPLE SEE YOU ROAM
YOUR CITY AND PROTECT YOUR
STREETS *
* TO YOU YOURSELF YOU WHISPER
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A
MOMENT TO REMEMBER THE TWO BRAVE
OFFICERS WHO FELL IN THE LINE OF
DUTY AND THE OTHER TWO VICTIMS
AND ALL OF THEIR FAMILIES AND
THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE PULLING
TOGETHER.
OBVIOUSLY REFLECTING ON THIS
LOSS.
>> TO DATE A POLICE OFFICER,
THEY WAIT UNTIL THEY UPON THAT
YOU'RE IN FOR THE LONG HAUL
BEFORE YOU GET TO MEET THE REST
OF THE FAMILY, WHICH IS THE
BROTHERHOOD.
THIS WOULD BE OUR FIRST
CHRISTMAS TOGETHER.
HE WAS REALLY THE LOVE OF MY
LIFE.
>> Adrienne: WELL, THE PAIN OF
FREDERICTON'S LOSSES HAVE STRUCK
A CHORD WITH COMPLETE STAGERS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY INCLUDING A
BOY IN NOVA SCOTIA.
HE IS JOSHUA COCHRANE, AND HE'S
ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM AND HE'S
WORKED REALLY HARD TO GAIN THE
CONFIDENCE TO SING IN PUBLIC.
NOW HE HAS RE-WRITTEN THE LYRICS
TO A LEONARD COHEN CLASSIC.
HIS SONG IN SUPPORT OF
FREDERICTON IS OUR "MOMENT OF
THE DAY."
(*)
* YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT YOU TOOK
A VOW *
* TO PROTECT AND SERVE
* YOU MADE US PROUD
(*)
* DID YA LATE AT NIGHT AS
PEOPLE
SLEEP *
* YOU ROAM YOUR CITY AND PROTECT
YOUR STREETS *
* TO YOU YOURSELF YOU WHISPER
HALLELUJAH *
>> I WANTED THE POLICE AND THE
FAMILIES TO KNOW
THAT I CARE AND I UNDERSTAND HOW
HARD THIS IS TO LOSE SOMEBODY
YOU LOVE.
I LOST MY FATHER IN AFGHANISTAN
TO AN I.E.D.
I KNOW THE HURT AND THE ANGER
THAT YOU GO THROUGH AFTER
HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN.
PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE
THERE FOR THEM.
* HALLELUJAH
* HALLELUJAH
>> Rosemary: WELL, THAT'S ONE
PERSON'S TRIBUTE BUT I KNOW AND
I STILL SEE THEM BEHIND YOU AT
THIS HOUR, ADRIENNE, PEOPLE
COMING TO THAT MEMORIAL AND
LEAVING THINGS BEHIND.
AND PEOPLE ARE MANIFESTING THEIR
SUPPORT IN ALL SORTS OF WAYS
THERE I GUESS.
>> Adrienne: IT'S REALLY
INTERESTING, ROSIE.
I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT SOME OF
THOSE TRIBUTES AND YOU FEEL THAT
YOU'RE INTRUDING SOMETIMES AND
YOU DON'T WANT TO GET TOO CLOSE.
AND WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING PEOPLE
SOMETIMES GO TO A PHONE ON THE
WALL BEHIND ME HERE BECAUSE THE
POLICE STATION IS LOCKED.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO
LEAVE FLOWERS, THEY WANT TO TALK
TO SOMEBODY.
SO THEY PICK UP THE PHONE AND
ASK IF SOMEONE CAN COME OUT.
WE SAW A COUPLE TODAY SHOW UP
WITH COOKIES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE THING,
RIGHT, BUT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO
THEM THAT THEY PHYSICALLY HANDED
THAT TO A POLICE OFFICER.
AND WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING THAT
HAPPEN ALL DAY LONG.
THAT REALLY IS "THE NATIONAL"
FOR AUGUST 12th.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
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